Worst moment in your team's history

[D-Wade #3]

Discuss

[redzero]

Hmm, I'll have to think about it...

[Giuseppe]

Summer of '84/constant flirting with disaster culminating on a Tuesday nite in Boston in June.

We were finally put out of our misery.

All the championships afore, and all the championships to come, that Summer of shame is the most prominent stain.

[Leetonidas]

0.4

Ginobili's foul

Could've had a 5-peat man... :depressed

[resistanze]

hmm, i'll have to think about it...
Cue Ghazi in 3...2...1

[jimo2305]

0.4

Ginobili's foul

Could've had a 5-peat man... :depressed

+1

:depressed

[lil_penny]

Game 7 of the 2000 wcf... watching the implosion as the only blazer fan in a room full of purple and gold put me in a place that only kurt cobains last moments could relate to.. then kobe to shaq and I knew it was over.

[HeatChamps]

Wade's shoulder injury.

[elemento]

0.4

ginobili's foul

could've had a 5-peat man... :depressed

+1

[spursncowboys]

0.4

Ginobili's foul

Could've had a 5-peat man... :depressed
yep

[TheRealCB]

Try asking this question to yourselves when your team goes 11 wins, is backdoor swept in the finals,becomes the first 1st seed to lose to the 8th plus losing to the 7th as 2nd...

Pretty fucking hard mate :depressed

[Riles04]

the last 11 yrs..haha ...(knicks)

[Cane]

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Lebron-Billboard.jpg

Not my team but LeBron James leaving the Cavs has to be up there.

For the Spurs...D-Rob getting "bamboozled" by Hakeem in the playoffs that tainted his NBA legacy but he at least he wasn't the only one to suffer against the nightmare known as the Dream :downspin:

[Mrlunt925]

0.4

Ginobili's foul

Could've had a 5-peat man... :depressed


yup :bang

[BullsDynasty]

3 that come to mind.

The Bull's meltdown in Game 7 of the 1990 ECF (Except for Jordan)

Jordan's premature retirement in 93

Jordan's premature comeback in 95

Could've had a 9 peat.... sigh.

[EIC]

0.4

Ginobili's foul

Could've had a 5-peat man... :depressed

Ditto. Also was particularly hard hit by the Game 7 loss to the Mavs in 2006. That one stung.

[Ashy Larry]

for the older Lakers fans, probably 1969 Finals versus the C's. Those balloons didn't come down.


my generation, gotta co-sign with Guiseppe. That 1984 series was brutal. Easily could have been a sweep.

Game 1: Win in the Garden

Game 2: J Dub with 22 points but overshadowed by one bad pass.

Game 3: Blowout, C's played like sissies - Larry Bird

Game 4: Clothesline game - missed free throws late by Magic, Up 5 points with 59 seconds and possession of the ball. Lost in overtime. Hence the name Tragic Johnson

Game 5: C's win

Game 6: Lakers win

Game 7: C's win title.
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[Cane]

Oh yea and a small market's worst nightmare that could've happened to the Spurs if not for guys like Gervin and D-Rob:

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[Ashy Larry]

Kings of Sacramento: Horry's 3 in Game 4 or that brutal game 6 officiating.

[Dex]

0.4

Ginobili's foul

Could've had a 5-peat man... :depressed

Bingo.

[TIMMYD!]

0.4

Ginobili's foul

Could've had a 5-peat man... :depressed

Yup. There's no guarantee we would have gotten a 5-peat but still the possibility was high. :depressed

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

Ditto. Also was particularly hard hit by the Game 7 loss to the Mavs in 2006. That one stung.

Thats what "Ginobili's foul" is

[VBM]

Spurs getting swept by LA in 2001. Duncan's playoff return after missing the 2000 playoffs with the knee injury...losing on bullshit like .4 or the Gino foul is one thing. But when you're overwhelmed in a series (the conference finals no less), it's pretty bad.

[balli]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3222/2896940542_d3b1cab751.jpg?v=0

beat that.

[Venti Quattro]

November 7, 1991

June 12, 2008

[jacobdrj]

Since I payed attention, around 1997... The Pistons in the playoffs against the Hawks, either in 97 or 98, the team, outside of G-Hill, Joe D and Hunter, were all hung over during an elimination game (game 5, in old fashioned 5 game series). Outside those 3, none of them cared.

Totally embarrassed by it.

[HarlemHeat37]

0.4 was horrible, but looking back it at now, I just have to give Fisher a lot of credit, it was a ridiculously good shot..there's still no guarantee that the Spurs would have beaten that 2004 Pistons team though, obviously..

Manu's foul was worse for me, because it obviously could have been much more avoidable than 0.4..there's not much the Spurs could have done against Fisher, it was one of the most difficult attempts I've ever seen, considering the circumstances..Manu's foul hurt a lot, because it looked like the game was over(IMO), and you have to feel bad for Ginobili, because he's the type of guy that probably still beats himself up over it..

Also, I'm pretty certain the Spurs would have beaten the 2006 Heat, so that part hurts a lot..

Duncan's injury in 2000 hurts more than 0.4 IMO..I honestly expected a repeat, it sucks any time you lose out due to injuries..

[Ashy Larry]

yeah, that was a tough loss for the Jazz. Pippen with a bad back and MJ had more than half of the Bulls points. Major meltdown by the Jazz.

[Ashy Larry]

November 7, 1991



Sad, sad day :depressed :depressed :depressed :depressed :( :( :(

[Venti Quattro]

Sad, sad day :depressed :depressed :depressed :depressed :( :( :(

Probably the darkest day of the franchise's history.

[Darrin]

5.
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May 27, 1991--The Detroit Pistons are embarassed out of the playoffs by the Chicago Bulls on their home-floor, 115-94 to complete a 4-0 sweep of the Bad Boys. It would be the last time that they contended for a Championship. Jordan would go on to win 6 of the next 8 NBA titles as Isiah Thomas, Bill Laimbeer, Joe Dumars, and Vinnie Johnson would never again see the second-round of the playoffs. To make matters worse, Isiah Thomas organizes a walk-off to show the Bulls a complete lack of respect.

4.
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January 22, 1999 -- Shortly before the lockout was to end, the Detroit Pistons had 18 million dollars in cap space. They would use it to sign-and-trade for Christian Laettner (Scot Pollard), who had reached a verbal agreement with the Pistons before he tore his achilles tendon in that offseason. The same day they signed Loy Vaught, a man out of basketball for 17 months because of back trouble and Jud Buechler from the Bulls. Alvin Gentry, the coach at the time, had lobbied for Clifford Robinson to no avail. To make room for these deals, Bonzi Wells, the Pistons lottery pick in the 1998 draft, was sent packing to Portland for a second-round pick! This would plant the seeds for Rick Sund's firing and Grant Hill's departure. They had failed, with resources like 20 million in cap space and a lottery pick, to put a winning team around their superstar.

3.
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June 26, 2003--The Pistons draft Darko Milicic in a sea of Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh, and Dwyane Wade.

2.
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March 13, 2009--The owner of the Detroit Pistons since 1974, the definitive Detroit Pistons pedigree, died at the age of 86. His wife inherited the team and subsequently put the team up for sale. The future of the Detroit Pistons is not known. There has been talk of moving the team out of Detroit now that Mr. D is gone.

1.
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November 19, 2004-- Ben Wallace pushes Ron Artest. Ron Artest lays on a scorers table. A fan throws a cup of beer at Ron Artest. The worst act of violence in American Sports history ensues.

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Of course there's game five of the 87 Eastern Conference Finals, Game 6 of the 1988 NBA Finals, but I choose to go with stuff I actually saw.

[HeatChamps]

0.4 was horrible, but looking back it at now, I just have to give Fisher a lot of credit, it was a ridiculously good shot..there's still no guarantee that the Spurs would have beaten that 2004 Pistons team though, obviously..

Manu's foul was worse for me, because it obviously could have been much more avoidable than 0.4..there's not much the Spurs could have done against Fisher, it was one of the most difficult attempts I've ever seen, considering the circumstances..Manu's foul hurt a lot, because it looked like the game was over(IMO), and you have to feel bad for Ginobili, because he's the type of guy that probably still beats himself up over it..

Also, I'm pretty certain the Spurs would have beaten the 2006 Heat, so that part hurts a lot..

Duncan's injury in 2000 hurts more than 0.4 IMO..I honestly expected a repeat, it sucks any time you lose out due to injuries..
:lol

[Thompson]

Thats what "Ginobili's foul" is

I prefer to view that one as 'Dirk's non-called foul on Duncan at the end of regulation.'

[balli]

yeah, that was a tough loss for the Jazz. Pippen with a bad back and MJ had more than half of the Bulls points. Major meltdown by the Jazz.
In addition to being the better team, and Jordan getting the steal, the pushoff and the shot, there was also the whole Dick Bavetta rigging the game thing; the Eisley/Harper calls that resulted in a 5 point swing.

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I think about losing what would have been our only championship, because of Dick Bavetta, and lol at the people complaining their team never got a 5 or 9 peat or whatever. I understand why you guys remember those moments as devastating, but really, you don't know what pain is.

[romsey31]

The brawl!

[Basketballgirl25]

0-18 start, although when Nets were losing that game to break that record every Net fan was prob happy, because we were getting attention lol

[Kobe Molested Me]

John Stockton :depressed

[Darrin]

The brawl!

As devastating as it was to the Pistons, it was ten times worse for the Pacers. They had a Championship-contender broken up (Ron Artest, Stephen Jackson, Jermaine O'Neal, Jamaal Tinsley, Reggie Miller, Austin Croshere, Jeff Foster, Fred Jones, Anthony Johnson, Dale Davis, David Harrison) broken up by the suspensions and the fallout. Miller would end his career that season and the Pacers have yet to recover in the standings.

[Hooks]

Damn, Detroit would've been almost unstoppable had they drafted Wade or Lebron...They would've won back to back titles and prolly could've 3-peated...

[Darrin]

Damn, Detroit would've been almost unstoppable had they drafted Wade or Lebron...They would've won back to back titles and prolly could've 3-peated...

Yeah, and this rebuilding phase could've looked like Duncan in 2003.

[Cane]

the last 11 yrs..haha ...(knicks)

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:downspin:

[Dunc n Dave]

From the Duncan era, I have to go with .4 as the lowest point.

From the David Robinson era, I'm going with the Spurs 1st round loss to the Golden State Warriors led by Run TMC. We were the #2 seed, I think and we lost to the #7 seed 3-1 (back when 1st round was best of 5).

I remember being so pissed after that. That series exposed that DRob had no one else he could depend on during those years. No wonder his back gave him problems,,,carrying those scrubs all those years.

[pauls931]

can't make up my mind

[cornbread]

Rod Strickland's behind the head pass to nobody.

[djohn2oo8]

John Stockton...... 2005 Game 7....... Up 2-0 on Jazz in 07 losing in 7 ........96'

[Ashy Larry]

In addition to being the better team, and Jordan getting the steal, the pushoff and the shot, there was also the whole Dick Bavetta rigging the game thing; the Eisley/Harper calls that resulted in a 5 point swing.

gGSiEEpF3WM


I think about losing what would have been our only championship, because of Dick Bavetta, and lol at the people complaining their team never got a 5 or 9 peat or whatever. I understand why you guys remember those moments as devastating, but really, you don't know what pain is.


Those may have attributed to a possible five point swing (really can't see how they missed that Eisley three) but Utah clearly lost that game down the stretch and was "clearly" the better team in that series.

Home court advantage - playing in a place they never lose
Scottie Pippen playing limited minutes with a bad back
No real production elsewhere.

Stockton and Malone should kick themselves in the ass every day they wake up .....

[BullsDynasty]

Damn, Detroit would've been almost unstoppable had they drafted Wade or Lebron...They would've won back to back titles and prolly could've 3-peated...

I don't blame Joe, it was obvious knowledge that any other GM in the NBA would have drafted Darko. But even if you would have drafted Bosh, Melo, or Wade, what guarantees you that you would have acquired Rasheed? Rasheed came to the team ready to impcact where is if you would have drafted Melo or Bosh, they wouldn't have brought a championship in the shortrun and by the time they develop to the superstars they are today, You'll have conflicting contracts and would most likely have given up some of your pieces to keep the young superstar.

[Koolaid_Man]

For me I'd say when we won the title on the road in Orlando...that left me with a bad feeling...almost rejected the title out of hand because of that...


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[Ashy Larry]

Probably the darkest day of the franchise's history.

still can remember that shit .... Lakers went into pre-season and I can still remember Chick saying that magic felt a little under the weather.

The my mom just dropped the hammer on my ass and when it came out he was HIV positive, seemed like L.A. was literally underneath a cloudy sky. Just brutal.

[baseline bum]

95 WCF, no doubt. Olajuwon torching Robinson and Rodman and Bob Hill getting into a big pissing match and wrecking the team in the middle of the most important series in franchise history at the time was tough to watch. In retrospect, it's not too bad though considering the franchise's success later on, as balli said.

[Darrin]

I don't blame Joe, it was obvious knowledge that any other GM in the NBA would have drafted Darko. But even if you would have drafted Bosh, Melo, or Wade, what guarantees you that you would have acquired Rasheed? Rasheed came to the team ready to impcact where is if you would have drafted Melo or Bosh, they wouldn't have brought a championship in the shortrun and by the time they develop to the superstars they are today, You'll have conflicting contracts and would most likely have given up some of your pieces to keep the young superstar.

There's no guarantee they get Rasheed. However, all the pieces are still there to make the trade. Cliff Robinson can still be sent to the Warriors for Bob Sura. Mike Curry can be shipped to the Raptors for Lindsey Hunter. And Zelly Rebraca still is a free agent in 2004. It's possible.

[baseline bum]

Those may have attributed to a possible five point swing (really can't see how they missed that Eisley three) but Utah clearly lost that game down the stretch and was "clearly" the better team in that series.

Home court advantage - playing in a place they never lose
Scottie Pippen playing limited minutes with a bad back
No real production elsewhere.

Stockton and Malone should kick themselves in the ass every day they wake up .....

It's not Stockton's fault. He hit a huge dagger three with 41 seconds left that should have put away game 6. Of course, then Malone chokes, and lets Jordan strip him on the left block, and season over. Stockton should kick Malone in the ass every day for that screw-up. No way they would have lost a game 7 at home with no Pippen.

[Giuseppe]

can't make up my mind

tee, hee.

[spursfan1000]

0.4 no doubt.

[Giuseppe]

The Skunker no doubt.

whoops!

[Nathan89]

Game 7 of the 2000 wcf... watching the implosion as the only blazer fan in a room full of purple and gold put me in a place that only kurt cobains last moments could relate to.. then kobe to shaq and I knew it was over.

Oh that game the officials let the lakers comeback and win when they were down 17 in the 4th.

[bigzak25]

Right now, I'd have to say .4 as #1 and the Scola trade as #2.


edit:


Thinking more about it, I'd have to add game 5 of the 1995 Western Conference Semi's vs Houston at the Dome which was a game I was at sucked pretty hard as well...

Not to mention getting knocked out by Golden State in DRobs 2nd season...

and that shot, i'm guessing it was in 94, by Barkley over the Admiral will always haunt my memories a bit as well...

I also do not have very fond memories of getting owned by the Jazz time and time again, but many of these latter demons have been exorcised by our teams 4 titles...so .4 and Scola reign supreme as major depressers.

I'm not sure the Spurs get past the Pistons in 2004 though, but I think Scola would have helped the Spurs get past the Lakers in 2008.

[Giuseppe]

Oh that game the officials let the lakers comeback and win when they were down 17 in the 4th.

The ramifications of that game are incredible. I don't even like to think of the grim alternatives involved.

Oy vey!

[howbouthemspurs]

0.4

Ginobili's foul

Could've had a 5-peat man... :depressed


Yup.. I cried on both instances

[Mori Chu]

For me, by far the most embarrassing moment in franchise history has to be when my team got brutally swept by the Phoenix Suns in this year's playoffs. Utterly humiliating; they just destroyed us. It was like watching a Division III team play against a ...

Oh, wait a minute. I'm not a Spur fan; I'm a Suns fan. My mistake. Got mixed up there for a second.

[Giuseppe]

For me, by far the most embarrassing moment in franchise history has to be when my team got brutally swept by the Phoenix Suns in this year's playoffs. Utterly humiliating; they just destroyed us. It was like watching a Division III team play against a ...

Oh, wait a minute. I'm not a Spur fan; I'm a Suns fan. My mistake. Got mixed up there for a second.

Mori, draggin' that Spur ass to the tree of woe & gettin' his crucifin' on.

muhahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

***And I saw you over there a couple weeks back tearing that Sose Joint ass up over those trades, Mori. I was tickled pink!

[Juanobili]

The fact that the Spurs could have had a 5-peat depresses me :(

that would've been so sick

[Giuseppe]

^Well, you had that every-other-year thing goin' for a while.

That was really cute.

[Samr]

Watching Sean's presser about his kidney disease, and the ensuing medical drama that unfolded.

I'd also say when David Robinson get knocked unconscious by Karl Malone was pretty tough too.

As angry as I got over .04 (actually wrote a letter to the NBA, copied Mark Cuban on it, and got a very agreeable response from him haha), that stuff's just part of the game; when players' actual lives are at stake, that's when it gets rough.

[Ashy Larry]

It's not Stockton's fault. He hit a huge dagger three with 41 seconds left that should have put away game 6. Of course, then Malone chokes, and lets Jordan strip him on the left block, and season over. Stockton should kick Malone in the ass every day for that screw-up. No way they would have lost a game 7 at home with no Pippen.

Stockton: 10 points in a must win game and goes 4 for 10

Malone: 31, 11 and 7. Goes 11 for 19. I'd say Stockton deserves more of the blame than Malone.

Karl was killing Rodman. Stockton couldn't deal with Harper who was actually sick that game. Hornacek was the second best player on the floor for the Jazz in that game.

[Ditty]

1.1979-should of went to the finals that year up 3-1 against the bullets chocked at the end... don't know if we would of beat the sonics though in the finals

2.1995-losing to the rockets and hakeem killing robinson...spurs had a deep team that spurs defintley would of beat the magic in the finals that year

3.2006-dirks lay-up that should of been a non call.. would of beat the heat in the finals matched up perfect with them

4.2004- .04 bullshit shot spurs should of beat the lakers that series not sure if would of beat the pistons that year

5.2001- Best record in the league was coasting through playoffs when we faced the damn lakers and swept us damn derek anderson and derek fisher couldnt miss shit that series spurs would of beat the sixers that year also

spurs should be 9 time champions right now

[JMarkJohns]

can't make up my mind

Gotta be Paxson. Twixt Barkley needlessly gambling on the pass, Ainge unbelievably doubling off Paxson, a three-point specialist, to defend an already in trouble Grant when only a three can beat you, and the greater context of hosting a game 7 of the Finals for a Title-less franchise, it has to be Paxson's three.

Worth mention is Elie's "kiss off" to Phoenix in Game 7 of the 1995 Semifinals, and Horry's "nudging" elbow to Nash and ensuing fracas in the waning seconds of 2007's Semifinal's comeback in San Antonio, and losing the Greatest Game Ever Played in 1976.

But pure moment, Gotta be losing the Finals at home on a shot that never should have been allowed to be attempted.

[024]

.4 was not as bad as ginobili's foul. the spurs could have recovered from it. no way they could recover from a end of regulation foul in game 7.

[Venti Quattro]

Oh that game the officials let the lakers comeback and win when they were down 17 in the 4th.

You don't cry conspiracy when you miss 15 straight shots.

[Bito Corleone]

0.4

Ginobili's foul

Could've had a 5-peat man... :depressed

:(

[JamStone]

Detroit Pistons...

Probably from a franchise perspective, the Palace brawl will be long remembered as the biggest black eye to the team and Detroit fans. It was bad for a while, but I've gotten over it. And the Darko pick will live in infamy much like Sam Bowie. Those two things will go probably go down as the worst of the lot. Those have both also been mentioned in the thread already.

But at least on the court and having to do with actual basketball play, I have a couple others to mention. All of these happened before the back-to-back titles in 1989 and 1990, but those two titles helped soften the blow of these horrible moments for Pistons fans.

First, the alleged "phantom" foul on Bill Laimbeer against a Kareem sky hook in game 6 of the 1988 Finals. It saved game 6 for the Lakers despite Isiah scoring 43 points and having that 25 point third quarter on a sprained ankle. Then, game 7 against the Boston Celtics in 1987 when the Pistons had the game pretty much in control but Adrian Dantley and Vinnie Johnson both dove for a loose ball and collided heads. Dantley was finished and neither played the rest of the game. The Celtics won by something like 3 points despite Detroit controlling most of that game before the head collision.

But the most famous worst Detroit Pistons moment on the court regarding actual basketball play is from that same 1987 series against the Celtics in game 5 and I still cringe when I see the highlight. Dammit, Isiah!

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[balli]

It's not Stockton's fault. He hit a huge dagger three with 41 seconds left that should have put away game 6. Of course, then Malone chokes, and lets Jordan strip him on the left block, and season over. Stockton should kick Malone in the ass every day for that screw-up. No way they would have lost a game 7 at home with no Pippen.

That's the reason I've always said that championships matter in regards to legacy, for every NBA superstar, except John Stockton.

It's a shame Malone fell apart in game 6 and that the Sonics were a few points better in game seven of the '96 conf. finals and that LA won a game seven vs. the Jazz in '88, but frankly, there was not much more Stock could've done with his career in order to win a ring. He gave it everything and came up a few points short through no fault of his own and irregardless of that, he was the best PG ever. :toast to you and any other Stockton fans.

[BullsDynasty]

That's the reason I've always said that championships matter in regards to legacy, for every NBA superstar, except John Stockton.

It's a shame Malone fell apart in game 6 and that the Sonics were a few points better in game seven of the '96 conf. finals and that LA won a game seven vs. the Jazz in '88, but frankly, there was not much more Stock could've done with his career in order to win a ring. He gave it everything and came up a few points short through no fault of his own and irregardless of that, he was the best PG ever. :toast to you and any other Stockton fans.

TBH, I think rings should not be a factor in determining GOATness, IMO if you have a great GM that can surround you with talent, youre winning championships if not then tough luck.

[Giuseppe]

That's the reason I've always said that championships matter in regards to legacy, for every NBA superstar, except John Stockton.

It's a shame Malone fell apart in game 6 and that the Sonics were a few points better in game seven of the '96 conf. finals and that LA won a game seven vs. the Jazz in '88, but frankly, there was not much more Stock could've done with his career in order to win a ring. He gave it everything and came up a few points short through no fault of his own and irregardless of that, he was the best PG ever. :toast to you and any other Stockton fans.

Stockton was a loser in a winner's circle. He was a selfish thing who got on the assist kick and would never deviate from it.

And that's it.

[Blackjack]

Cully, did that thread get deleted or what?

[SomeCallMeTim]

TBH, I think rings should not be a factor in determining GOATness, IMO if you have a great GM that can surround you with talent, youre winning championships if not then tough luck.

I find myself nodding in agreement with a lot of your posts. You just might be the most sensible Bullfan I've ever encountered, especially because Bullfans are so predisposed to "it's all about the ringz!!!!1!!!" :lol

Needless to say, I agree with you on this. Rings are overrated when determining best players.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Gotta be Paxson. Twixt Barkley needlessly gambling on the pass, Ainge unbelievably doubling off Paxson, a three-point specialist, to defend an already in trouble Grant when only a three can beat you, and the greater context of hosting a game 7 of the Finals for a Title-less franchise, it has to be Paxson's three.

Worth mention is Elie's "kiss off" to Phoenix in Game 7 of the 1995 Semifinals, and Horry's "nudging" elbow to Nash and ensuing fracas in the waning seconds of 2007's Semifinal's comeback in San Antonio, and losing the Greatest Game Ever Played in 1976.

But pure moment, Gotta be losing the Finals at home on a shot that never should have been allowed to be attempted.

Yeah... if there was a "moment" for Phx, that was it. I remember watching that live, on a tiny TV in a little house in Colorado. Hard to believe that was 17 years ago.

[lil_penny]

You don't cry conspiracy when you miss 15 straight shots.

X2

The blazers lost that game plain and simple.. refs had nothing to do with it.. I can't remember a questionable call.. all that comes to mind is a lot of guys who at one point of there career averaged close to 20ppg and the one time we needed a go to guy he was no where to be found... along with a fucking timeout! The lack of a real appointed go to guy is what truly caused that epic choke job imho.

[Jacob1983]

2006 Finals and seeing the Heat and STD infected pussy Wade getting the MVP trophy in Dallas at the AAC.
2007 First round series against the Warriors. Epic fail.
And this year's outing in the playoffs was pretty bad too.

I would also put the game during the 2002-2003 season where the Mavs were playing the Lakers in LA and blew a 27 point lead as one of the worst moments in Mavs' history.

[Silver&Black]

.4

[Mori Chu]

Mori, draggin' that Spur ass to the tree of woe & gettin' his crucifin' on.

muhahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

***And I saw you over there a couple weeks back tearing that Sose Joint ass up over those trades, Mori. I was tickled pink!

Yeah, though I probably shouldn't red-ass the Spur fans at all. Because in a few short months, my team is gonna come out of the gate with its pants round its ankles, just asking for it. It's gonna be a long 2010-11 season for us Suns fans. A 7 seed and out in the 1st round, that's our ceiling. Even the creaky Spurs with their Tiago Splitter signing have a brighter outlook than we do.

But damnit I want my moment. We swept their asses and I damn sure ain't gonna let them forget it.

[Giuseppe]

....I'll help ya in not lettin' 'em forget it, Mori.

[Supergirl]

0.4

ginobili's foul

could've had a 5-peat man... :depressed

+1

[JamStone]

0.4

Ginobili's foul

Could've had a 5-peat man... :depressed

Except reversing either play guarantees nothing by way of a championship in either post season...

[pauls931]

Gotta be Paxson. Twixt Barkley needlessly gambling on the pass, Ainge unbelievably doubling off Paxson, a three-point specialist, to defend an already in trouble Grant when only a three can beat you, and the greater context of hosting a game 7 of the Finals for a Title-less franchise, it has to be Paxson's three.

Worth mention is Elie's "kiss off" to Phoenix in Game 7 of the 1995 Semifinals, and Horry's "nudging" elbow to Nash and ensuing fracas in the waning seconds of 2007's Semifinal's comeback in San Antonio, and losing the Greatest Game Ever Played in 1976.

But pure moment, Gotta be losing the Finals at home on a shot that never should have been allowed to be attempted.

If I were forced, I'd say Amare and Diaw leaving the bench. That team had the best shot at winning a title of any of those teams, even moreso that the 1993 team. (no one makes excuses, but Barkley was playing hurt) They probably could have closed out the Spurs and then a decent match with Utah before steamrolling whoever came out of the east.

Or losing the coin flip for Lew Alcindor...

[lefty]

1995. I thought Spurs were going to win it all; then Olajuwon toyed with Robinson, and Horry made his only basket of game 1 at the worst time

2001. Duncan's injury; I`m pretty sure we would have repeated if he didnt miss the playoffs

2002. 0-4 vs L.A; they handed our asses to us; it was brutal :lmao

2004 .4 :pctoss

2006. Fucking Manu Ginobili

[Venti Quattro]

2000. Duncan's injury; i`m pretty sure we would have repeated if he didnt miss the playoffs

2001. 0-4 vs l.a; they handed our asses to us; it was brutal :lmao

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[JMarkJohns]

If I were forced, I'd say Amare and Diaw leaving the bench. That team had the best shot at winning a title of any of those teams, even moreso that the 1993 team. (no one makes excuses, but Barkley was playing hurt) They probably could have closed out the Spurs and then a decent match with Utah before steamrolling whoever came out of the east.

Or losing the coin flip for Lew Alcindor...

Never underestimate the negating impact that was D'Antoni as head coach.

I don't think you can assume that the Suns would have won the closeout game in SA, or that they could handle SA's savvy in a pressure-packed game seven at home. Nor do I think you can assume they make it past both Utah and Cleveland. D'Antoni was worth a minimum of two losses each series, and any time you spot good teams two games, you're asking for trouble.

Good call on the 1969 coinflip. That completely re-wrote history.

Each is up there as a moment, but being one defensive stop short of tying a Finals series and hosting a deciding game seven and doing it in such bone-headed fashion provides a greater context that is too immediate in its significance to ignore compared to the others. No other moment cost the Suns so much so late and in so devastating a fashion.

[Killakobe81]

Game 7 of the 2000 wcf... watching the implosion as the only blazer fan in a room full of purple and gold put me in a place that only kurt cobains last moments could relate to.. then kobe to shaq and I knew it was over.

I was at THAT one greatest basketball moment of my life ... LOL

this is a GREAT topic ...really tough there are A LOT even with ALL the winning the Lakers have done ...


I'll stick to three that have happened on "my watch" as a Laker fan (in order).

1. 1986 the Ralph Sampson shot. I was a youngn' and I was devestated all summer...

2. 2002 regular season ...EVERYONE points to 2004 (Colorado, Payton Malone losing to Pistons). but I enjoyed that 2002 less than EVERY other title team I have ever rooted for in any sport. Everyone puts it all on kobe but Shaq and Kobe (and to some extent Phil) let their petty egos, rip apart a potential dynasty the league hadn't seen since 80's run it's course BEFORE it TRULY got rolling. Shaq let himself get fat, and put off surgery until the season's had started and refused to cede any authority on the team to kobe. Kobe took some ill-advised shots and fought back in the media through those ESPN pricks ...And Phil took his shots at both through the media ...I can't lbame anyone for hating THAT lakers team i could barely stomach them either...

I didnt even throughly enjoy that team until the playoffs ...Horry and the trash-talking kings finally redeemed that season for me.

3. The byron Scott and magic hamstring injuries in the 1989 finals ...MAYBE we still lose, we were aging fast ...but to not get a chance to 3 peat was tough ...

[Brazil]

.4 and it's not even close

[Killakobe81]

Detroit Pistons...

Probably from a franchise perspective, the Palace brawl will be long remembered as the biggest black eye to the team and Detroit fans. It was bad for a while, but I've gotten over it. And the Darko pick will live in infamy much like Sam Bowie. Those two things will go probably go down as the worst of the lot. Those have both also been mentioned in the thread already.

But at least on the court and having to do with actual basketball play, I have a couple others to mention. All of these happened before the back-to-back titles in 1989 and 1990, but those two titles helped soften the blow of these horrible moments for Pistons fans.

First, the alleged "phantom" foul on Bill Laimbeer against a Kareem sky hook in game 6 of the 1988 Finals. It saved game 6 for the Lakers despite Isiah scoring 43 points and having that 25 point third quarter on a sprained ankle. Then, game 7 against the Boston Celtics in 1987 when the Pistons had the game pretty much in control but Adrian Dantley and Vinnie Johnson both dove for a loose ball and collided heads. Dantley was finished and neither played the rest of the game. The Celtics won by something like 3 points despite Detroit controlling most of that game before the head collision.
But the most famous worst Detroit Pistons moment on the court regarding actual basketball play is from that same 1987 series against the Celtics in game 5 and I still cringe when I see the highlight. Dammit, Isiah!

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I remember that of course i WANTED the Celts bad inthe Fnals that year BUt Detroit was already the better team ...

[Budkin]

.4 or Ginobili foul... nothing else comes close.

[bostonguy]

Since I didn't start watching until the mid-90's, I can't talk about the previous years however the deaths of Len Bias and Reggie Lewis clearly impacted the rough times I endured.

1997- Not getting the #1 pick. I wanted Duncan so badly. That was a pretty big blow. If the Celts had landed Duncan, we could have had many years of Lakers/Celtics finals. Instead we had to settle for Ron Mercer and Chauncy Billips.


2002 ECF -After that amazing 26 point come from behind game 3 victory, Pierce bricked a key free throw in game 4 that would have sent the game into overtime. Instead the series evened at 2-2 and New Jersey never looked back.


2003/2004-Getting swept by the Nets and Pacers.

2005- Losing by 27 points at home in a game 7 to the Pacers.


2006-2007- Going 24-58,losing a franchise record 18 games in a row, and being unable to get the the #1 pick. Luckily they turned those misfortunes into KG and Ray Allen which led to #17.

2009- KG going down with a knee injury.


2010 finals- Losing games 6 and 7 after having a 3-2 series lead.

[alchemist]

http://www.nba.com/nba_news/duncan_injury_071202.html
beginning of the end for any chance at these :lobt2:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nba/01playoffs/confsemis/2001-05-05-spurs-mavs-game-1.htm
Juwan knocks down Derek Anderson, that was a major blow :depressed

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Play that ended Bowen's career

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nuff said

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:depressed

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[Killakobe81]

http://www.nba.com/nba_news/duncan_injury_071202.html
beginning of the end for any chance at these :lobt2:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nba/01playoffs/confsemis/2001-05-05-spurs-mavs-game-1.htm
Juwan knocks down Derek Anderson, that was a major blow :depressed

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Play that ended Bowen's career

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nuff said

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:depressed

Great job alchemist with video to back it up as well ...

this thread was refreshing change and also cathartic ...Even the best franchises: Lakers, Celts spurs etc.

Have had their dark days ...and we remember those losses for life ...

BUT the wining after helps ...a lot. if my team can't win it i would root for the cavs or another long suffering fan-base win it all ...

But there are a select few franchise I hope never ring or ring again and they include: Utah (though I admire DWill), Sacto, Phoenix (yall players talk too much for never having won anything) Dallas (ditto) and Miami im already sick of the Miami thrice ... or the (3 big egos)


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:bang

[milkshakeballa]

As a Laker fan...one moment will be ingrained in our brains forever. No injury compares. No loss in the finals compares. No 40 pt beating courtesy of the Celtics compares. No NBA Title for the Celtic compares.


The worst moment in Laker history is the day Magic Johnson had to announce his retirement fron the NBA due to the HIV virus.

[Killakobe81]

As a Laker fan...one moment will be ingrained in our brains forever. No injury compares. No loss in the finals compares. No 40 pt beating courtesy of the Celtics compares. No NBA Title for the Celtic compares.


The worst moment in Laker history is the day Magic Johnson had to announce his retirement fron the NBA due to the HIV virus.

I agree it does trump the on the court ones ... I saw my mom cry that day and she is not a crier ...

[LkrFan]

Lakers >>> Sp*rs: Fo Fo Fo (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200105190SAS.html) :lmao

[Darrin]

http://www.slamonline.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/allen_iverson_joe_dumars.jpg

[Donkeybong]

Not the darkest day, but the loss in the 2004 finals sucked balls considering what transpired afterwards (Loss of Phil, Shaq, Fisher, Payton, Malone, Fox). And then we sign Smush Parker... :|

[Texas_Ranger]

Lakers >>> Sp*rs: Fo Fo Fo (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200105190SAS.html) :lmao

:lol Antonio Daniels scoring 20 points.

[Darrin]

‘The McAdoo Thing’

“Frustrations? There were quite a few,” he recalled, wincing at one in particular. “The biggest one was the thing with Dick Vitale and the (Bob) McAdoo thing. That was the killer. Dick fantasized. He said, ‘Boy, if I had McAdoo along with Bob Lanier, I could really do something.’ And the way it ended up, McAdoo never wanted to play for us.”

Davidson, an avid tennis player and a terrific track athlete at Michigan, saw more passion out of McAdoo on the tennis court, often looking to the next court at his tennis club to find McAdoo swatting fuzzy balls.

“He was a great basketball player when he wanted to play,” Davidson said, “and he was a pretty good tennis player, too. He just didn’t want to play for us. They ended up calling him McAdon’t.”

The Pistons traded two first-round draft choices and M.L. Carr to Boston for McAdoo; Red Auerbach parlayed those picks into Kevin McHale and Robert Parish, acquired from Golden State for one of those picks that the Warriors used to select Purdue center Joe Barry Carroll, a player of such flickering passion that his nickname – especially apropos given the “McAdon’t” roots of his acquisition – was Joe Barely Cares.

“We ended up with a player who didn’t want to play and (Boston) wound up with three Hall of Fame guys,” Davidson said, still irked nearly three decades later at allowing Vitale to hoodwink him into a deal that grounded the Pistons for years. “They got three great players and we got nothing. That haunted me for several years.”

The Pistons wound up waiving McAdoo – after firing Vitale 12 games in to his disastrous second year – midway through his second season, one that saw them go 21-61 and get the second pick in the draft. With a proven basketball man in the general manager’s chair, Jack McCloskey, the Pistons selected an elfin guard with an angelic smile and an assassin’s heart from Indiana, where Isiah Thomas had just led Bobby Knight’s Hoosiers to the NCAA title in his sophomore season.

And that started a turnaround that led to the 1989 and ’90 titles famously bagged by Chuck Daly’s Bad Boys and saw the Pistons through their transition from the Pontiac Silverdome – where they’d relocated in 1978 from Cobo Arena in downtown Detroit – to neighboring Auburn Hills, where The Palace opened in time for the 1988-89 season and the franchise’s first NBA championship.

http://www.nba.com/pistons/features/davidson_partone.html


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[Thompson]

Just to be clear, Bowen did not kick Paul, despite what the retards at the NBA front office did (suspend Bowen for a game).

Paul whacks Bowen in the groin with the back of his hand (around 47 seconds into the slow-motion video below), and then pretends to be kicked around 1:03 in the video. You can tell he faked it because there is clearly space between Bowen's foot and his body when Paul begins to throw himself backwards. Paul also stands around with his hands behind his back and a guilty look after the fact.

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[Darrin]

http://lowposts.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/elliott_pistons.jpghttp://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/files/cache/dennis-rodman-autographed-san-antonio-spurs-8x10-photo_4a11405715e1328a34d1c8aebb250d14.jpg

A day of mourning for both San Antonio and Detroit.

[Darrin]

Rodman had to leave Detroit. That was a no brainer.

They just screwed up by acquiring Elliott's worthless ass

That sucks they could've gotten Robert Horry out of it and ELLIOTT FAILED HIS PHYSICAL! Puts a new spin on 2005, doesn't it? "Horry inbounds to Hamilton in the corner, Hamilton back to Horry! Money!"

Stupid Tim Duncan for leaving him open. Championship number 4.

[timtonymanu]

Some of the obvious ones (0.4, Ginobili's foul, Duncan's injury in 2000)

Recent ones have taken place the last 3 seasons

2008 - Game 4, WCF against LA. Barry's no call. Also Game 1. Spurs were up by alot and then they ran out of gas and LA took advantage and won. Series was pretty much done by that time.

2009 - Manu being out for the playoffs. The Dallas series was painful to watch.

2010 - The sweep by Phoenix. I actually had Phoenix winning the series but I didnt think it was gonna be that easy for them. RJ and Bonner were playing like pussies. Manu was shooting horribly. Hill couldnt defend Nash. And Phoenix's bench killed ours. It was like a reminder of how bad the whole 09-10 season was. So many expectations and the team underachieved and placed 7th. Fortunately, we saw what the team could have been when they beat Dallas.

[urunobili]

0.4

Ginobili's foul

Could've had a 5-peat man... :depressed

:depressed

[Darrin]

Rodman had to leave Detroit. That was a no brainer.

They just screwed up by acquiring Elliott's worthless ass




I'd argue that the brawl has effected the Pacers and their fans far more than it has Detroit.

They still have yet to recover from it.

The true darkest day in Pistons history came in 1996

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4a/Detroit_Pistons1996.svg/250px-Detroit_Pistons1996.svg.png


Enough said.

Pistons run in motors. Motors are in cars. Car motors are measured in horse power. So naturally let's have a flaming horse logo for the Detroit Pistons! :bang


Yes, the uniforms. I have children's pajamas that look more dignified. :depressed

http://media.mlive.com/fullcourtpress/photo/dumarsjpg-cfabbb81da57eb09_medium.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kl2GKlgG_Xc/SOHAZQunFhI/AAAAAAAAAfY/Xm9ZH-xWTwM/s400/granthill.jpghttp://www.bballone.com/jerrys/pistons/images/pistons10.jpg

The floor against those purple seats. :vomit: They did that on purpose. For five years!

http://www.seatdata.com/images/venue_palace_of_auburn_hills/samples/sample.jpg

[spizzle_tronk]

0.4


Could've had a 5-peat man... :depressed


only in your mind.

[sprrs]

Ginobili's foul of Dirk in '06 definitely hurt more than '04. The Spurs were down as much as 19 in that game, and they pulled off an amazing comeback to take the lead with just a few seconds remaining. It would have been incredible for them to finish that off and advance. Especially after being down three games to one.

That one still hurts.

[Kai]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3222/2896940542_d3b1cab751.jpg?v=0

beat that.

Hey fuck you man

http://hoopedia.nba.com/images/9/9b/Stockton1.jpg

[Ashy Larry]

Lakers >>> Sp*rs: Fo Fo Fo (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200105190SAS.html) :lmao

Even though Shaquille won the Finals MVP Award vs the Sixers, that series was truly the NBA Championship and the best player on the floor was Kobe Bryant. Dude just couldn't be stopped.....

[BanditHiro]

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[DeadlyDynasty]

1984 Finals Game 7
1986 WCF Sampson's bullshit cag shot
Magic and Byron getting injured in the '89 Finals
Magic announcing he got the HIV
Malone's injury and the 2004 Finals debacle
Game 4 of the 2008 NBA Finals
Game 6 of the 2003 WCSF

[Killakobe81]

1984 Finals Game 7
1986 WCF Sampson's bullshit cag shot
Magic and Byron getting injured in the '89 Finals
Magic announcing he got the HIV
Malone's injury and the 2004 Finals debacle
Game 4 of the 2008 NBA Finals
Game 6 of the 2003 WCSF

Though that game was painful ...the Worthy pass to Maxwell and Magic dribbling out the clock game hurt sooo much more.

In the end it led to wins in 85 87 and 88 but we win that one ...we may get 4 titles in 5 years and Magic has 6 rings possibly ...

I normally don't play what if even the Magic Byron injury doesnt hurt as bad as poissing away a title to our biggest rival ... that is why Game 4 in 2008 hurt so bad too ...

[SpursDynasty]

0.4 in 2004, Ginobili's foul in 2006, add blowing a 20 point lead in Game 1 of the WCF's vs. the Lakers in 2008 and a 17 point lead in Game 5...there's no reason why the Spurs shouldn't have won six straight NBA championships from the 2002-2003 through 2007-2008 seasons.

[baseline bum]

1986 WCF Sampson's bullshit cag shot


The real bullshit was Mitch Kupchack starting a fight with Olajuwon and getting him ejected in the fourth quarter of that game.

[Killakobe81]

The real bullshit was Mitch Kupchack starting a fight with Olajuwon and getting him ejected in the fourth quarter of that game.

Kupchak outsmarting a rival again ... :toast

BTW has any GM went from ostracized to lionized by his own fanbase ...More than Mitch?

I guess Ainge is in contention as well but not sure if he was getting as much heat as Mitch because Ainge didnt succeed ...REd ...

[Venti Quattro]

1986 WCF Sampson's bullshit cag shot

It's still beyond me how Sampson made that shot!

[Ashy Larry]

It's still beyond me how Sampson made that shot!

one second, just throw the shit up there and if it doesn't go in, overtime.

that 1986 team was just not right. They were struggling with mediocre teams and just didn't have that same drive as the 1985 and 1987 squads .......

[Drachen]

0.4

Ginobili's foul

Could've had a 5-peat man...


+1

:depressed

In hindsight?? yes these were pretty bad. At the time? David injured, out for the season.

I say this because we hadn't won anything yet. At least in 04 and 06 we had recently won and had a chance to win again soon.

[Drachen]

Oh and I have a metal block. I still say Rodman never happened. He never played here.

[jacobdrj]

Since I payed attention, around 1997... The Pistons in the playoffs against the Hawks, either in 97 or 98, the team, outside of G-Hill, Joe D and Hunter, were all hung over during an elimination game (game 5, in old fashioned 5 game series). Outside those 3, none of them cared.

Totally embarrassed by it.

In retrospect, I suppose 'The Hangover' paved the way for Joe D to become president, knowing what players not to get (being part of a couple championship teams himself), G-Hill leaving on the eve of his ankle injury, and the Pistons getting Big Ben... But that game still stings...

[jb4g]

.4

I can remember every second like it was yesterday....from pure elation after TD's garbage shot went in to absolute utter silence for five minutes after Fisher ran off the court, praying inside the shot was late, knowing in my heart it was good. ughhh, it was awful

[DeadlyDynasty]

Another one I forgot was Tim Thomas's 3 at the end of regulation in 2006. Still kills me to this day b/c I had no doubts that the Lakers would've overtaken the Clips in the 2nd round and given Dallas a good WCF (but ultimately lose to them). People always talk about LeBron not having a team around him, but you'll be hard-pressed to ever find a supporting cast THAT awful: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2006.html

After LO there wasn't jackshit...Bynum was only a rook. If Kobe would've taken that team to the WCF i think it would've been his and PJax's most impressive accomplishment to date...but alas, nobody could grab a rebound at the end:bang

[cobbler]

Worst moment by far was the 5 mins it took for Nelsons shot to come down after hitting the heel of the rim for the eventual game winner in 69 finals game 7.

2 seasons away now from the final cleansing!!!! Let the season begin already!