Scott Brown?

[florige]

Could this guy be the Republicans answer to Obama in 2012 possibly? He seems to have angered the hardcore base though with some of his stances.




http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/08/04/scott.brown.campaign/index.html?hpt=Sbin

[Marcus Bryant]

Well, he's from Massachusetts so that immediately makes him suspect.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I am ok with moderate republicans..

[Marcus Bryant]

If only he came from a true American state like Alabama, Utah, Alaska, or Arizona.

[Marcus Bryant]

Plus he might not care about homosexuality but might care about balanced budgets.

[George Gervin's Afro]

If only he came from a true American state like Alabama, Utah, Alaska, or Arizona.

oh you're right.. he's from the socialist notheastern part of the country..

[Marcus Bryant]

Only candidates from "the real America" need be considered.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Only candidates from the "real America" need be considered.

We must rely on tea party candidates then..for they alone love this country..!

[boutons_deux]

I wonder if his owners will buy him an even older, more beat up pickup truck? and with a rifle rack? full camo gear to campaign in.

[Nbadan]

Only candidates from "the real America" need be considered.

Well, Saran Palin is from Alaska and Dubya was from Connecticut, even though he pretended to be Texan with his ranch in Crawford and his southern persona...so basically, you don't have to be from the South, just act 'Southern'...whatever that means...

[Spurminator]

so basically, you don't have to be from the South, just act 'Southern'...whatever that means...

Something like this.

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:lol

[spursncowboys]

that sounded like a negro dialect.

[jack sommerset]

Could this guy be the Republicans answer to Obama in 2012 possibly? He seems to have angered the hardcore base though with some of his stances.

Any republican will be the anwser.

[spursncowboys]

not mccain. please not mccain.

[jack sommerset]

If he makes it to the finals McCain would win by a landslide. Any repug will take Barry out, easily. I think Barry is at 41% approval. Took mean, bad, dumb Bush years to reach that low.

[admiralsnackbar]

If only he came from a true Americuhn state like Alabamuh, Utah, Alaskuh, or Arizonuh.

Fixed

[admiralsnackbar]

If he makes it to the finals McCain would win by a landslide. Any repug will take Barry out, easily. I think Barry is at 41% approval. Took mean, bad, dumb Bush years to reach that low.

:lol

[DMX7]

McCain is done. No one is going to take him serious after picking Sarah Palin as his VP now that she's been fully exposed.

[Wild Cobra]

Maybe, but I would have to see more evidence. Right now, I doubt he has what it takes.

[florige]

Maybe, but I would have to see more evidence. Right now, I doubt he has what it takes.

What kind of evidence from him? (just curious)

[florige]

If he makes it to the finals McCain would win by a landslide. Any repug will take Barry out, easily. I think Barry is at 41% approval. Took mean, bad, dumb Bush years to reach that low.

Are you serious dude?

[Nbadan]

Are you serious dude?

.....careful.........he's gonna want some booty...

[EmptyMan]

Obama is too charming with his smile and wink.

Newt is the GOP's only hope. He is the only one who can articulate what needs to be said and he is not a pussy so he will actually say it.

All the others are hopeless imo.

[Nbadan]

Obama is too charming with his smile and wink.

Newt is the GOP's only hope. He is the only one who can articulate what needs to be said and he is not a pussy so he will actually say it.

All the others are hopeless imo.

Newt has to much dirty laundry...there simply is no GOP answer to Obama at this time......

[SnakeBoy]

I am ok with moderate republicans..

That's why there are articles from liberal leaning sources promoting him as the future of the GOP, same as we saw with McCain before he ran against the one. Brown doesn't stand a chance in the primaries.

[George Gervin's Afro]

That's why there are articles from liberal leaning sources promoting him as the future of the GOP, same as we saw with McCain before he ran against the one. Brown doesn't stand a chance in the primaries.

and that's a shame because most people in the US are moderate in their views yet they have the least representation

[Nbadan]

Unfortunately, political moderation does not rile up the partisans, and you need them to win too...

[SnakeBoy]

and that's a shame because most people in the US are moderate in their views yet they have the least representation

So did you vote for McCain over Obama?

[George Gervin's Afro]

So did you vote for McCain over Obama?

I voted for Clinton in the primary and was going to vote for MCain..until he picked the bimbo from AK as his running mate.. he's to close to dying and the last peron I wanted leading the country was the walking soundbite

[CosmicCowboy]

I agree that Newt has too much baggage. I think Romney will win the nomination this time.

[jack sommerset]

I voted for Clinton in the primary and was going to vote for MCain..until he picked the bimbo from AK as his running mate.. he's to close to dying and the last peron I wanted leading the country was the walking soundbite

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[SnakeBoy]

I voted for Clinton in the primary and was going to vote for MCain..until he picked the bimbo from AK as his running mate.. he's to close to dying and the last peron I wanted leading the country was the walking soundbite

So you think the country needs a leader with moderate views but you didn't vote for the candidate with moderate views.

[SnakeBoy]

I agree that Newt has too much baggage. I think Romney will win the nomination this time.

My money is on Romney at this point. Brown & Newt won't get it, ones too moderate and the other too polarizing. Palin I don't think will even run, she's making too much $ doing what she's doing. The person I would like to see run is The Fat Man from New Jersey but he says he doesn't want the job and he seems to mean what he says, a rare thing for a politician.

[George Gervin's Afro]

So you think the country needs a leader with moderate views but you didn't vote for the candidate with moderate views.

Since I had two choices , and I did not want ditzy anywhere around the white house, I chose the lesser of two evils.

[George Gervin's Afro]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

Jack..don't go back through the archives..you'll never find my posts indicating that I was leaning towards Mcain..don't do it because I will be shown as a liar..:rolleyes

[jack sommerset]

Jack..don't go back through the archives..you'll never find my posts indicating that I was leaning towards Mcain..don't do it because I will be shown as a liar..:rolleyes

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[George Gervin's Afro]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

I knew you wouldn't look back because you'd look more stupid than you do now...

[jack sommerset]

I knew you wouldn't look back because you'd look more stupid than you do now...

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[jack sommerset]

I voted for Clinton in the primary and was going to vote for MCain..until he picked the bimbo from AK as his running mate.. he's to close to dying and the last peron I wanted leading the country was the walking soundbite

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao

[Marcus Bryant]

I agree that Newt has too much baggage. I think Romney will win the nomination this time.

So dog shit will run against the incumbent cat shit. Sweet.

[DarrinS]

Why not Paul Ryan?

[spursncowboys]

Or Jindal

[SnakeBoy]

Why not Paul Ryan?

Or Jindal

Like them both but they are too young imo.

[CosmicCowboy]

Or Jindal

No way. He had his 15 seconds of upward mobility fame and blew it with the Republican rebuttal speech. Slight comeback with the oil spill but he needs to just be happy as a Governor.

[CosmicCowboy]

So dog shit will run against the incumbent cat shit. Sweet.

So Matt, You are very different from the gung-ho Aggie I met here a long time ago.

So who in your cynical world should be President in 2012?

[spursncowboys]

yeah that speech was horrible. i felt like my kindergarten teacher was talkng to me.

[SnakeBoy]

Since I had two choices , and I did not want ditzy anywhere around the white house, I chose the lesser of two evils.

So since you believed McCain would be better for the country at what point do you start calling your vote for Obama a mistake? Is it enough that he is alive and well 2 years later and would have had plenty of time to implement his agenda or does he have to be alive and well in 2012 before you call your vote a mistake?

[George Gervin's Afro]

So since you believed McCain would be better for the country at what point do you start calling your vote for Obama a mistake? Is it enough that he is alive and well 2 years later and would have had plenty of time to implement his agenda or does he have to be alive and well in 2012 before you call your vote a mistake?

Considering history will be the final judge on any president's tenure I reserve the right to wait a couple of more years to decide if I am unhappy. I don't think he's perfect and I agree he has made some mistakes. I am not necessarily gung ho about some of the things he's done but I do agree with some other things . So in the end it's still too early in the game for me hate him.

On a side note, anyone who claims to know his motives is lying.


It's a shame that McCain has had to cater to the tea potty crowd to keep is seat. He lowered himself in my eyes when he allowed the tea potties to hijak his campaign.

[spursncowboys]

Since he has been campaigning from day one, It is pretty easy to assume his motives. He is definitely alot more conceded than I could have imagined.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Since he has been campaigning from day one, It is pretty easy to assume his motives. He is definitely alot more conceded than I could have imagined.

case in point

[admiralsnackbar]

My money is on Romney at this point. Brown & Newt won't get it, ones too moderate and the other too polarizing. Palin I don't think will even run, she's making too much $ doing what she's doing. The person I would like to see run is The Fat Man from New Jersey but he says he doesn't want the job and he seems to mean what he says, a rare thing for a politician.

I think Romney is always going to be in the discussion, but I think his faith alienates the more zealous parts of the Christian base, while his position on healthcare while Gov. of MA runs counter to fiscal conservative and libertarian voters. Finally, he has proven to have very little credibility among minorities. It all adds up to a flawed candidate.

It really is hard to see the GOP coming up with a viable contender because they are stuck in a siege mentality, strictly sticking to the talking points that put them in the minority in the first place, and denouncing anyone in the ranks that diverges from the party line. Somebody needs to stand up to the party, make some arguments for moderation, present some credible ideas for dealing with energy, health, immigration, and economic resuscitation, and try to win back the moderate vote from the Democrats. The "Southern strategy" thing is only going to continue yielding diminishing returns now that the media is faster to catch it (though not fast enough for the WH...) and more of the country is not white.

[Wild Cobra]

Why do republicans need to be moderate, but it's OK for democrats to fall off the left edge of the earth?

[admiralsnackbar]

Why do republicans need to be moderate, but it's OK for democrats to fall off the left edge of the earth?

Because Democrats got elected and Republicans didn't.

[Marcus Bryant]

What exactly is 'moderation' these days? If you suggest that perhaps the government shouldn't be invading every country in sight you are regarded as a "liberal" (of the lefty communist variety). Once upon a time you would've been a "reactionary."

Of course, moderation has no place in America today. On both general political sides, adherence to dogma is paramount. Deviation is the greatest sin and moderates are the greatest sinners.

[Supergirl]

There is no truly progressive Dem in office right now, except maybe Bernie Sanders. They're all moderate. Including Obama - he ran as a moderate and he's governed as one.

I hope the Repugs keep pushing Tea Party douchenozzles down the American people's throats - it's likely to spell their doom. They're gambling on a "let's scare white people" campaign strategy (that's what the anti-immigration fervor is all about - illegal immigration is actually not up, nor is crime) and it may pick them up some votes in the midterm election but it will spell their doom in 2012. Now, I fully expect them to go scrambling back to the middle in 2012, but they haven't demonstrated their ability to find anyone who has a chance in hell in 2012.

[Marcus Bryant]

So it spells their doom to lose an election to a non-progressive? Some penalty, your theory.

[Wild Cobra]

There is no truly progressive Dem in office right now, except maybe Bernie Sanders. They're all moderate. Including Obama - he ran as a moderate and he's governed as one.

I hope the Repugs keep pushing Tea Party douchenozzles down the American people's throats - it's likely to spell their doom. They're gambling on a "let's scare white people" campaign strategy (that's what the anti-immigration fervor is all about - illegal immigration is actually not up, nor is crime) and it may pick them up some votes in the midterm election but it will spell their doom in 2012. Now, I fully expect them to go scrambling back to the middle in 2012, but they haven't demonstrated their ability to find anyone who has a chance in hell in 2012.
You are sorely mistaken if you thing they're moderate. There is no moderation in what they are attempting to do.

[admiralsnackbar]

You are sorely mistaken if you thing they're moderate. There is no moderation in what they are attempting to do.

It's all so much clearer after immoderate beer consumption, innit? :toast

But seriously, the Dems are too chicken-shit to ever actually act on their progressive platform, and they dance for their corporate owners more-or-less the same way Republicans do (albeit to a more up-beat tune).

If you're judging by actions and not rhetoric, though, Dems are right-leaning moderates at their most liberal. The financial and bank reforms were toothless political opera, the healthcare reform only served to game the system in favor of insurance providers and pharmacoms. The bailouts, the endless war, the erosion of privacy are all holdovers of Bush doctrine. Meet the new boss...