Do animals have morals???

[lebomb]

Discuss..............

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Well, for starters, they lick their dick, balls, vuhjay, and anús in public, so you tell me.

[CosmicCowboy]

Well, for starters, they lick their dick, balls, vuhjay, and anús in public, so you tell me.

Yeah, but they do it in moderation.

If men could lick their dicks we would still be in the stone age.

[mrsmaalox]

Morals and class are 2 different things.

[Leetonidas]

No. They have no cognitive reason skills.

/thread

[Drachen]

No. They have no cognitive reason skills.

/thread

Then why tools?

[rjv]

something tells me this will not even come close to being anything resembling epistemological discourse

[Drachen]

something tells me this will not even come close to being anything resembling epistemological discourse


If so, it will be completely by accident since I just had to look up epistemological. LOL

[Drachen]

Oh and since I posted twice and have yet to answer the original question, my answer is:
I don't know.

My first reaction is to say "no" but there are differences in morality amongst my own species. Who am I to say that Chimps don't have their own moral code which I don't yet understand.

[rjv]

Oh and since I posted twice and have yet to answer the original question, my answer is:
I don't know.

My first reaction is to say "no" but there are differences in morality amongst my own species. Who am I to say that Chimps don't have their own moral code which I don't yet understand.

what would dr. zeuss say about all this ?

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/dr-zeus.jpg

[Drachen]

I don't know, maybe we should ask Falco.

"dr. zeuss, dr. Zeuss-Dr. Zeuss, oh oh oh Dr Zeuss (oooo rock me Dr. Zeuss)."

[DisAsTerBot]

the very essence of morals is debatable.....
you could have something you call morals that I call stupidity
and vice versa....
so, first you'd have to understand the thinking and logic and matters of importance to the animal...

[lebomb]

the very essence of morals is debatable.....
you could have something you call morals that I call stupidity
and vice versa....
so, first you'd have to understand the thinking and logic and matters of importance to the animal...


I wonder if a chinchilla or wallaby looks at person and thinks to itself.... WTF? is that idiot doing? or if they wonder if humans are stupid? Has anyone looked at their dog and the dog looks back at you like WTF??? Why you looking at me all crazy?

Just curious............... :(

[marini martini]

Try explaining this, and why animals don't talk like humans, to a 2 yr. old that watches effin "Wonder Pets" all day!!!! ....................and don't get me started on Yo Gabba Gabba!

http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp8/ahidalgo_photos/yogabbabckgrd3.jpg

TBH, watch Nick Jr. all day, you'll see all sorts of morals, values, & lessons 24/7!!!!WTF????

[Hooks]

Humans are animals, most humans have morals, therefore animals have morals :P



Edit: Oh shit! 420th Post FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TE]

the question is do you have morality for asking such question on animalistic morality, exists or not?

[LnGrrrR]

My first answer would be a rapid-fire "no". But if I looked up proof, I might change my mind. After all, some animals do have complex social structures. Anybody want to do it for me? :D

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Try explaining this, and why animals don't talk like humans, to a 2 yr. old that watches effin "Wonder Pets" all day!!!! ....................and don't get me started on Yo Gabba Gabba!

http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp8/ahidalgo_photos/yogabbabckgrd3.jpg

TBH, watch Nick Jr. all day, you'll see all sorts of morals, values, & lessons 24/7!!!!WTF????Yo gabba is weird. I don't know where or why I saw it but that's not a kids show.

[Blake]

Discuss..............

Do the chinchillas you are trying to pay people $17.95 to take have immoral values?

[Venti Quattro]

They're instinctive so I doubt that requires morals for decision-making.

[redzero]

No, they don't have morals. They don't kill their own probably because they don't need to do so. They take care of their young to further their species. They do what they do to survive.

[lebomb]

Also, animals rape at will and its not against the law.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Try explaining this, and why animals don't talk like humans, to a 2 yr. old that watches effin "Wonder Pets" all day!!!! ....................and don't get me started on Yo Gabba Gabba!

http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp8/ahidalgo_photos/yogabbabckgrd3.jpg

TBH, watch Nick Jr. all day, you'll see all sorts of morals, values, & lessons 24/7!!!!WTF????

lol my nephew and niece loves this show, i watch it sometimes also but damn i dont understand wtf they are saying...

the black guy, LOL looks like rajon rondo

good show, sometimes they have sports personalities on the show

[Stringer_Bell]

No. They have no cognitive reason skills.

/thread

Some monkeys (or were they chimps?) have displayed altruistic traits based on the number of family members involved in dangerous situations or those involving scarce resources. The studies I recall from my Anthropology class suggested they can count family members (those they are related to), so if they can count and make decisions based off that information...that's called cognition.

I'm not saying it means they're moral. In the animals kingdom, there are no such things as rights.

[Darrin]

Discuss..............

I don't think that they have a sense of right and wrong. They do have complex mating rituals and establishing leadership, pecking order, and dominance and a lot of this is taught. However, they aren't complex enough to have established no-nos and behavior in achieving dominance. Lions will murder the young of the males they just conquered in order to mate with the males former mates. I would consider that "wrong" as killing is not right. But they do not have that same moral.

So even if they do have a moral code it looks nothing like what we, as domesticated and free-thinking human beings do.

[redzero]

Lions will murder the young of the males they just conquered in order to mate with the males former mates.

Animals cannot "murder" other animals.


I would consider that "wrong" as killing is not right. But they do not have that same moral.

Killing in itself is not "wrong." These are animals we are talking about here. This is a part of their nature.

[The Reckoning]

interesting when you read stories of dolphins saving people from sharks.

[Summers]

Some monkeys (or were they chimps?) have displayed altruistic traits based on the number of family members involved in dangerous situations or those involving scarce resources. The studies I recall from my Anthropology class suggested they can count family members (those they are related to), so if they can count and make decisions based off that information...that's called cognition.

I'm not saying it means they're moral. In the animals kingdom, there are no such things as rights.

But there are pecking orders and social norms to follow, even in non-primate animal cultures.


lol my nephew and niece loves this show, i watch it sometimes also but damn i dont understand wtf they are saying...

the black guy, LOL looks like rajon rondo

good show, sometimes they have sports personalities on the show

Besides, kids don't know the big red guy is a giant dildo.

[silverbora]

Besides, kids don't know the big red guy is a giant dildo.

dont forget the butt plug
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:FrL5jm8jkPUR6M:http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/af/6/AAAAArzQ1dgAAAAAAK9qGQ.jpg&t=1