What about flouride?

[Wild Cobra]

I have to agree with Chump on this one. Fluoride does naturally occur in some places, and the high levels are from natural water sources. Not the water sources it's added to.

[Parker2112]

:toast


what about this study?

http://www.fluoridealert.org/iq-studies.aspx

they found that children in the area with 2.38 mg/liter had significantly lower iq's than the children in the .4mg/liter area. that 2.38 number isn't too far off from the 1.82 number i just found earlier. to dismiss this as a non issue would be intellectually dishonest.

did you know that 60 years ago, they used to use fluoride as treatment for overactive thyroid? i grew up in an area that is almost twice the concentration of other places like ft worth and arlington which only have .8mg/liter. consequently, me, my mother, my father, my grandmother, and even my DOG have low thyroid. i'm thoroughly convinced that this has something to do with it, seeing as how my mother, father, and dog all 3 come from different genetic backgrounds.

[Parker2112]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/24/idUS127920+24-Jul-2012+PRN20120724
Stop ingesting fluoride. Stop the distribution to your kids.

[ChumpDumper]

Again, you're talking about naturally occurring fluoride.

Run away from that fact.

I am certainly against raising fluoride levels to 11.

[Blake]

Have you read this entire thread? There is really nothing left to discuss, imo.

[ChumpDumper]

Huh? I'm talking about the study where they found that fluoride levels slightly higher than the ones found in some US municipalities significantly lowered iq's. 1.82mg/liter and 2.38mg/liter isn't that much of a difference. Do you even read any of the information posted and at least try to be intellectually honest, even just sometimes? I've yet to see you do it.Let's see if you can be honest, or even functional at this point:


Yes. The water system has a natural fluoride concentration at or above the level considered optimal for the prevention of dental caries (cavities).

Now, how much fluoride do they add to the water supply in that particular municipality?

[ChumpDumper]

1.82 mg/literWrong.

Try again.

How much fluoride do they add to the water supply in that particular municipality?

[Blake]

Utsa rhetoric, reading comp and math doing more damage to tyson than det fluoride.

[ChumpDumper]

are you implying there's a difference in 1.82mg/liter of added fluoride, as opposed to the same amount of naturally occurring fluoride?So you have a different answer to the question now?

How much fluoride do they add to the water supply in that particular municipality?

[mavs>spurs]

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/08/22/does-fluoride-in-drinking-water-hurt-your-brain/


Does fluoride in drinking water hurt your brain?
By Dr. Keith Ablow
Published August 22, 2012
FoxNews.com

AP
Back in 2011, the EPA reversed course and lowered the recommended maximum amount of fluoride in drinking water due to data that the levels then being allowed put kids at risk of dental fluorosis--streaking and pitting of teeth due to excessive fluoride, which also puts tooth enamel at risk.
This conclusion was a discordant note amidst all the accolades fluoride had won, starting with the discovery during the 1940s that people who lived near water supplies containing naturally occurring fluoride had fewer cavities in their teeth. A massive push ensued, with government and industry encouraging cities and towns to add fluoride to water supplies.
Related: Dental health linked to dementia risk
Now, questions about the impact of fluoride on mental health are growing and can no longer be ignored.
A recently published Harvard study showed that children living in areas with highly fluoridated water have "significantly lower" IQ scores than those living in areas where the water has low fluoride levels. In fact, the study analyzed the results of 27 prior investigations and found the following, among other conclusions:
* Fluoride may be a developmental neurotoxicant that affects brain development (in children) at exposures much below those that cause toxicity in adults.
* Rats exposed to (relatively low) fluoride concentrations in water showed cellular changes in the brain and increased levels of aluminum in brain tissue.
Other research studies in animals link fluoride intake to the development of beta-amyloid plaques (the classic finding in the brains of patients with Alzheimer's dementia).
And research on fluoride also has implicated it in changing the structure of the brains of fetuses, negatively impacting the behavioral/neurological assessment scores of newborns and, in animal studies, impairing memory.
This information is very important, from a psychiatric standpoint, because we have witnessed rising rates of attention deficit disorder, major depression, dementia and many other psychiatric illnesses since the 1940s, and because the United States (which fluoridates a much higher percentage of its drinking water than most countries, including European nations) has some of the highest rates of mental disorders in the world--by a wide margin.
It is not clear, of course, that fluoride is responsible wholly, or even in small measure, for these facts, but the connection is an intriguing one, especially in light of the new Harvard study.
Given the available data, I would recommend that children with learning disorders, attention deficit disorder, depression, attention-deficit disorder or other psychiatric illnesses refrain from drinking fluoridated water, and consult a dentist about the most effective way of delivering sufficient fluoride to the teeth directly, while minimizing absorption by the body as a whole--and the brain, specifically.

[boutons_deux]

water fluridation, it's a business, some chemical companies making many $Ms, so it won't be stopped, no matter what the science says.

Just like BPA: banned in countries NOT OWNED and OPERATED by BigChem, which is the case in USA.

[Blake]

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/08/22/does-fluoride-in-drinking-water-hurt-your-brain/


I would recommend that children with learning disorders, attention deficit disorder, depression, attention-deficit disorder or other psychiatric illnesses refrain from drinking fluoridated water, and consult a dentist aboutthe most effective way of delivering sufficient fluoride to the teeth directly while minimizing absorption by the body as a whole--and the brain, specifically.

so no recommendation that normal kids refrain from drinking it.

Nothing newsworthy, tbh.

[mavs>spurs]

A recently published Harvard study showed that children living in areas with highly fluoridated water have "significantly lower" IQ scores than those living in areas where the water has low fluoride levels. In fact, the study analyzed the results of 27 prior investigations and found the following, among other conclusions:
* Fluoride may be a developmental neurotoxicant that affects brain development (in children) at exposures much below those that cause toxicity in adults.
* Rats exposed to (relatively low) fluoride concentrations in water showed cellular changes in the brain and increased levels of aluminum in brain tissue.
Other research studies in animals link fluoride intake to the development of beta-amyloid plaques (the classic finding in the brains of patients with Alzheimer's dementia).
And research on fluoride also has implicated it in changing the structure of the brains of fetuses, negatively impacting the behavioral/neurological assessment scores of newborns and, in animal studies, impairing memory.
This information is very important, from a psychiatric standpoint, because we have witnessed rising rates of attention deficit disorder, major depression, dementia and many other psychiatric illnesses since the 1940s, and because the United States (which fluoridates a much higher percentage of its drinking water than most countries, including European nations) has some of the highest rates of mental disorders in the world--by a wide margin.

I'd say all that is newsworthy.

[Blake]

I'd say all that is newsworthy.

Did you drink a lot of fluoride as a kid?

[mavs>spurs]

Everyone did. They're talking about exposures at levels much lower than what is considered too much for adults. Ever wonder why we're 22nd in science and 25th in math?

[Blake]

Everyone did. They're talking about exposures at levels much lower than what is considered too much for adults. Ever wonder why we're 22nd in science and 25th in math?

You haven't read this entire thread, have you.

[boutons_deux]

"It has been known for some thirty years that aluminum, once it enters our bodies, has the tendency to accumulate in our brains, where it kills off neurons and leads to memory loss. And thanks to the significant amounts of aluminum found in food emulsifiers, antiperspirant deodorants, hair sprays, baking powder, many toothpastes (the white base used in many toothpastes is aluminum dioxide), much of our drinking water, and most of our cookware, we are exposed to quite a lot of aluminum over the course of our lives. There has been much speculation, therefore, that aluminum may be one of the prime factors in the onset of Alzheimer's disease. The connection between aluminum and Alzheimer's became even stronger when, in 1995, Neurotoxicology reported that the widespread use of aluminum salts to purify water could account for the large numbers of people suffering from Alzheimer's.

And now new research has revealed that fluoride in drinking water makes the aluminum that we ingest more bioavailable. In the presence of fluoride, more aluminum crosses the blood-brain barrier and is deposited in the brain. The combination of aluminum and fluoride causes the same pathological changes in brain tissue that are found in Alzheimer's patients."

www.jonbarron.org

Explains why so many sheeple are suckered by Repugs and "pastors"? :lol

Explains the increasing rate of Azheimer's diagnoses? (diagnoses which may be different from actual Alzheimer's instances. aka, an epidemic of diagnoses does not always mean an epidemic of diseases)

[RandomGuy]

I dont assume that everything I read is right.

Sure you do.

[Wild Cobra]

Portland rejected Flouride.

link: Portland, Ore., rejects adding fluoride to drinking water (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/22/portland-fluoride-water/2350329/)

[Winehole23]

Dallas ends fluoridation: http://nsnbc.me/2014/04/25/dallas-ends-five-decades-of-water-fluoridation-saves-1-million-a-year/

[Blake]

Dallas ends fluoridation: http://nsnbc.me/2014/04/25/dallas-ends-five-decades-of-water-fluoridation-saves-1-million-a-year/

I thought that was from "msnbc". What the hell is "nsnbc"?

Lol.

[Winehole23]

holy shit. i thought that was msnbc too.

[Winehole23]

http://cityhallblog.dallasnews.com/2014/04/dallas-county-dental-society-asks-city-council-to-consider-facts-not-fear-before-flushing-fluoride.html/

[boutons_deux]

holy shit. i thought that was msnbc too.

http://nsnbc.me/about-nsnbc-international/

never heard of it, out of Denmark

[The Reckoning]

http://nsnbc.me/about-nsnbc-international/

never heard of it, out of Denmark


http://nsnbc.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Christof-Lehmann-2011-150x150.jpg

ultimate troll face

[boutons_deux]

http://nsnbc.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Christof-Lehmann-2011-150x150.jpg

ultimate troll face

more instantly credible that your ignorant Fox bimbos

[Winehole23]

Utah became the first state to ban the addition of fluoride to drinking water, a move medical experts say could harm oral health. nyti.ms/442KESV (https://nyti.ms/442KESV)

[SnakeBoy]

According to The Experts™, without fluoride in the water, they're going to get cavities if they don't brush and floss their teeth

According to The Experts™, with fluoride in the water, they're going to get cavities if they don't brush and floss their teeth

[ChumpDumper]

According to The Experts™, without fluoride in the water, they're going to get cavities if they don't brush and floss their teeth

According to The Experts™, with fluoride in the water, they're going to get cavities if they don't brush and floss their teeth

TexAgs

[Blake]

According to The Experts™, without fluoride in the water, they're going to get cavities if they don't brush and floss their teeth

According to The Experts™, with fluoride in the water, they're going to get cavities if they don't brush and floss their teeth

Exactly the same then in your opinion?

Exactly the same?

[SnakeBoy]

Exactly the same then in your opinion?

Exactly the same?

According to The Experts™

[Blake]

According to The Experts™

And how many cavities with vs without. Link it or I'll just take your chips.

[SnakeBoy]

And how many cavities with vs without. Link it or I'll just take your chips.

The Experts™ won't say as far as I've seen

How many cavities with vs without do you think?

[Blake]

The Experts™ won't say as far as I've seen

How many cavities with vs without do you think?

You link your experts, I'll link mine. All in.

[Winehole23]

"purity of essence"

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.DVhsIR1tlBCoAGCJdth63wHaEK?w=302&h=180&c=7&r=0&o=5&dpr=1.5&pid=1.7


Mike Johnson on RFK Jr pushing to remove fluoride from water: "From what I've read and what I understand, it deserves real evaluation. There's a concern that it may be having a negative impact on the health of children ... I don't have the answers."

[Blake]

^ the experts currently in charge. Great.

[ChumpDumper]

The Experts™ won't say as far as I've seen

How many cavities with vs without do you think?

Why are you stupid?

[Thread]

Love when the old man refers to RFK Jr...

It's always as "Bobby" and does push back to the days of the Kennedy's. Yes, he's been estranged, kicked from the clan and the Hiannis Port compound, and I have never liked that clan whatsoever, but it does provide a brush back to those days.

There is also a snapshot of Trump & John-John/at adulthood at a nondescript sporting event that is special as well.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSlmZpk46XIi7DDiPCo-OzSYlWL_Q06ZtvUy_YuqmE9kpLohLV-w_YvT2riwmw&s