General 2011 NBA Draft Discussion

[yavozerb]

Doesn't Mirotic have a long term contract that would have to be bought out at almost $3 million? I don't see the Spurs paying that.

Yes, he does have large buyout and just signed an extension as well. Whoever drafts Mirotic I am sure will not expect his services for at least 2 more seasons and in all likely hood will be more like 3-4 seasons away from coming to the NBA..

[TD 21]

Ryan Feldman: Word out of Atlanta is that Lavoy Allen will get serious interest from Hawks at 48. (http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html) Spurs, who worked him out twice, also interested at 59.

[Bruno]

Doesn't Mirotic have a long term contract that would have to be bought out at almost $3 million? I don't see the Spurs paying that.

Mirotic is under contract until 2016 or 2017 with Real. His NBA buyout is €2.5M that it to say $3.5M with the current change rate.

The idea with Mirotic drafted at #29 would be to follow Splitter scheme: wait 3 years and sign him to a contract outside the rookie scale. It would work if the new CBA still allow teams to pay more than the rookie scale after 3 years overseas. While we, fans, have no idea about that, Spurs should know it since they knows what is in the owner's CBA proposition.

[ace3g]

Lance Hurdle according to his twitter will workout with the Spurs on Monday and Tuesday:

LanceHurdle Lance Hurdle
@MRKINDRED_MTB got a workout with the spurs on Monday and Tues bro

[tdunk21]

http://www.hoopsworld.com/the_draft/FullMockDraft.asp

latest mock draft on hoopsworld has the spurs drafting
#29 - Tyler Honeycutt
#59 - Willis reed(ahead of david lighty)

[5in10]

Just read a saexpress article.What do you guys think of bogdanovic? Seems like a pretty talented kid, especially if he gets better at D. HAdnt heard of him until I read that. Bruno?

[Bruno]

Just read a saexpress article.What do you guys think of bogdanovic? Seems like a pretty talented kid, especially if he gets better at D. HAdnt heard of him until I read that. Bruno?

Bogdanovic was labelled as a great prospect when he was very young. He went in Spain but he struggled there. He went back to Croatia where he has been good for 2 years. I had some doubts about his interest for the NBA but reports said that he worked out with Nets. His contract situation isn't very clear. He reminds me Gordan Giricek.

If he is still here at #59, he will be a great option for Spurs.

[Uriel]

Bruno, if Bertans and Mirotic were both available at 29, who would you pick and why? Or is there any non-international player who would conceivably be available at 29 that you would prefer over them both?

[Bruno]

Bruno, if Bertans and Mirotic were both available at 29, who would you pick and why? Or is there any non-international player who would conceivably be available at 29 that you would prefer over them both?

I take Mirotic. He is the better prospect and his transition to the NBA seems more natural than Bertans who should struggle defensively. He won't be able to come before 2014 but Bertans shouldn't be able to produce before that date because he is so young.

I don't know about college player who Spurs should prefer over them at #29 because I don't follow college basketball.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Many of the teams that want to add a late first round pick believe their best bet is dealing with the San Antonio Spurs. Multiple executives believe that San Antonio wants to move the 29th pick, and teams such as the New York Knicks and Phoenix Suns would love to take it off of their hands. Both teams will wait to see if the player they're targeting is on the board when the Spurs go on the clock before entering a bidding war for the pick.

Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=20166#ixzz1Pd348dPB

[Uriel]

I take Mirotic. He is the better prospect and his transition to the NBA seems more natural than Bertans who should struggle defensively. He won't be able to come before 2014 but Bertans shouldn't be able to produce before that date because he is so young.

I don't know about college player who Spurs should prefer over them at #29 because I don't follow college basketball.

I see. But with both players being 6"10 and 210 pounds, yet Bertans being a SF and Mirotic being a PF / C, doesn't that suggest that Bertans could have more of a role with the Spurs, in particular as the primary backup SF / ocassional smallball PF? Besides, like you said, Mirotic likely won't be able to cross the pond until several more years, and by the time he does come over, Duncan will likely have retired. Bertans fills an immeiate need for the Spurs (provided he gets minutes) while Mirotic may become what essentially amounts to another Luis Scola-type situation.

In any case, this point might be moot considering one of the 2 will almost certainly be gone by the time we pick (ESPN has Mirotic going to OKC at 24 and us taking Bertans at 29 while DX has Bertans going at 26 and us taking Mirotic at 29), and as Spurs > Pistons pointed out above, the Spurs will probably look to move their pick anyway.

[Bruno]

I see. But with both players being 6"10 and 210 pounds, yet Bertans being a SF and Mirotic being a PF / C, doesn't that suggest that Bertans could have more of a role with the Spurs, in particular as the primary backup SF / ocassional smallball PF? Besides, like you said, Mirotic likely won't be able to cross the pond until several more years, and by the time he does come over, Duncan will likely have retired. Bertans fills an immeiate need for the Spurs (provided he gets minutes) while Mirotic may become what essentially amounts to another Luis Scola-type situation.


Bertans won't fill an immediate need for Spurs because he is 18 years old and has very little high level experience. Both Mirotic and Bertans are long term project who won't be able to help Spurs before Duncan retire: for Mirotic it's because of his contract and for Bertans it's because he is too young/raw.

If Spurs want to draft a player to help them quickly, they will go after a college senior like JaJuan Johnson, Kyle Singler, Justin Harper, Jimmy Butler or Chandler Parsons.

[yavozerb]

I would gladly give up the #29 pick to the suns for a 2012 1st rd pick. Not only is that draft much deeper but I think the suns have the chance to be in the lottery again..

[Tyrone Jenkins]

Keep the Spurs "model" in mind when thinking about draft picks - a speedy scoring PG, an attacking SG, a defensive (otherwise negligble offensively) SF, shot blocking threat PF who can rebound and score and a defensive center.

We have the PG and SG but lack the other 3 (jury's still out on whether Splitter can be that PF).

It's possible to pick up that SF or C that is needed - that will give enough time to see who Splitter is...

[benefactor]

If they can trade this pick for a first in next years draft the do it without hesitation. Even two seconds in next years draft would do.

[wildbill2u]

Aren't we in luxury tax territory? If so, I see the Spurs reverting to drafting a Euro at 29 to stash overseas without salary. The grand experiment of paying a luxury tax for a last shot with the Big 3 didn't work out and I'm not sure Holt is going to try it again.

So Bertans or Mirotic are probable choices if we keep the 29th pick instead of trading it.

So we probably won't get any immediate help in the draft and we have little to trade for an impact player without blowing up the Big 3 so I see a return to the same team as last year.

Good enough for another 50 win season but probably not a championship.

[Bruno]

Per Chad Ford twitter : http://twitter.com/#!/chadfordinsider


Invites to NBA Green Room: Kyrie Irving, Derrick Williams, Enes Kanter, Brandon Knight, Kemba Walker, Jonas Valanciunas, Jan Vesely, Kawhi Leonard, Chris Singleton, Klay Thompson, Tristan Thompson, Jimmer Fredette, Alec Burks and Marcus Morris.

Biyombo, Markieff Morris and Donatas Motiejunas aren't invited. Maybe Spurs can grab one of them by getting a pick in the late tens.

[yavozerb]

Per Chad Ford twitter : http://twitter.com/#!/chadfordinsider



Biyombo, Markieff Morris and Donatas Motiejunas aren't invited. Maybe Spurs can grab one of them by getting a pick in the late tens.

Depends on what they have to give up..Cant imagine the spurs giving up too much cause none of those players seem to be real different makers.

[Bruno]

Aren't we in luxury tax territory? If so, I see the Spurs reverting to drafting a Euro at 29 to stash overseas without salary. The grand experiment of paying a luxury tax for a last shot with the Big 3 didn't work out and I'm not sure Holt is going to try it again.

It's impossible to say if Spurs will be in Luxury Tax territory next year under a new CBA. However, Spurs have a lot of money committed to the team. The 29th pick salary should be below $1M so it isn't a big problem but Spurs could be tempted to trade their pick for cash. Not having to pay a salary for the pick and getting $3M in cash could be intriguing.

[Bruno]

Depends on what they have to give up..Cant imagine the spurs giving up too much cause none of those players seem to be real different makers.

The most logical to give up would be a lottery protected future first round pick.

[yavozerb]

The most logical to give up would be a lottery protected future first round pick.

We could always give up our 2016 bobcats 2nd rd pick which is top 55 protected from the theo ratliff trade, that may seal the deal..

[Big P]

It's impossible to say if Spurs will be in Luxury Tax territory next year under a new CBA. However, Spurs have a lot of money committed to the team. The 29th pick salary should be below $1M so it isn't a big problem but Spurs could be tempted to trade their pick for cash. Not having to pay a salary for the pick and getting $3M in cash could be intriguing.

Late first rounders are going for $3 mil?....I doubt that....maybe one in the teens, but not the 29th pick in this draft.

[Bruno]

Late first rounders are going for $3 mil?....I doubt that....maybe one in the teens, but not the 29th pick in this draft.

If a team with a lot of money like Knicks, Blazers or Mavs want an additional first round pick, they won't hesitate to spend $3M on it.

[mountainballer]

would Motie come in for a work out, just because the Spurs are working on a deal for a higher pick and might get this done????
(ok, his agent Herb Rudoy does have a very good relationship with the Spurs)

or is this an evidence that the Spurs already have a deal place?

[baseline bum]

The most logical to give up would be a lottery protected future first round pick.

Hell fucking no.

[wildbill2u]

There are a lot of SF and PF with good length that are projected to go on DX from the 2oth spot on down before our pick at 29.

Does anyone have a clue or a rumor about any of them falling down to our pick because of poor workouts, medical problems or team needs or investigations or whatever?

I'm hoping for a miracle like Honeycutt or Tobias Harris or Vucevic since I'm not sold on Bertans or Mirotic.

[Uriel]

Bertans won't fill an immediate need for Spurs because he is 18 years old and has very little high level experience. Both Mirotic and Bertans are long term project who won't be able to help Spurs before Duncan retire: for Mirotic it's because of his contract and for Bertans it's because he is too young/raw.


Maybe so, but he does occupy a unique niche and does fill a position of need. We do, after all, need a backup SF. Plus, his contractual issues aren't as inhibiting as Mirotic's, so he can come over sooner, maybe as soon as next season, and begin to get experience in the Spurs' system. Hopefully if he'll get a decent amount of playing time, then by 2015, he'll have had several years to develop in a world class program against the best competition in the world. The same can't be said about Mirotic.

In any case, I'm just so enamored by the prospect of having a 6"10 SF on our team. To have a small forward that's as tall as if not taller than half our PF / C rotation yet still has the talent level to blossom into a player with some pretty good upside is just far too tantalizing for me to pass up.

[ChuckD]

Late first rounders are going for $3 mil?....I doubt that....maybe one in the teens, but not the 29th pick in this draft.

That's actually pretty standard. You give a ridiculously protected second rounder that will never convey, and $3M cash for just about any first rounder.

Most teams with a pick in the teens aren't going to outright dump it, they'll usually want to swap picks, with some cash and maybe second rounders involved.

[Thompson]

nbadraft.net is projecting the Spurs will pick Kyle Singler; wasn't he projected to go in the lottery last year before he withdrew?

I wouldn't be too disappointed with that pick. Maybe he could push Jefferson for the starting spot. Or he could, if he wasn't a rookie and didn't need a season of benching to clear his head.

[mountainballer]

you can't find "help now" players when you are armed with a #29 pick and a #59 pick. you can use those picks for experienced college players with limited upside, like Danny Green, Da'Sean Butler, Malik Hairston or James Gist. Spurs already have a Green and a Butler, good chance their career will go the same direction like Hairston and Gist.
those players are good enough to fill the roster and take the #11 to #15 spot. they are not impact players, even less help now impact players.
whatever Spurs do in the draft it will be a post Duncan/Manu era move. it's probably to best to gamble on a player like Mirotic or Bertans. or Josh Selby.

btw. how could a player like Jeremy Tyler help now, a raw headcase, who hasn't even college experience and ended up in Japan???
because he could bring the vets Sushi as well as donuts?

[Pistons < Spurs]

San Antonio Spurs

Needs: SG, PF/C

Picks: 29, 59

The Spurs have been one of the best drafting teams in the league since they won the Duncan lottery, and they’ll need to hit another home run this year to keep up appearances. Even after they were knocked out by the Grizzlies in the first round, this is still a team coming off a 61-win season hungry for another title. Due to their outstanding depth and Popovich’s outstanding coaching, no Spurs played more than 32.4 minutes, meaning Duncan and his gang were effectively preserved and should have enough juice left for at another 60-win season.

The Spurs’ drafting genius earned them their terrific 2010-11 regular season, with rookies and unheralded sophomore contributing heavily. DeJuan Blair, a second round pick in 2010, started 65 games at PF and averaged 8.3 points and 7 boards in just 21 minutes. James Anderson shot the ball very well before he got injured, and Tiago Splitter provided a nice change of pace at center, and should be a much bigger factor next year. The real surprise, however, was 26-year old rookie Gary Neal, who provided the Spurs with the three-point shooting they so desperately needed. Undrafted out of Towson in 2007, Neal made the All-Rookie First Team.

This team is full of soon-to-expire contracts; Duncan has one year left, Parker is coming off soon after, while Blair, Hill and Neal are all free agents at the end of the year. They will have to take the best player available, and knowing the Spurs, if it isn’t a foreigner, it will be someone who’s ready to contribute right away. Kyle Singler, Marshon Brooks and Tyler

http://www.nbadraft.net/team-needs-southwest-division-2

[elemento]

Blair and Neal are not going to be free agents by the end of the year. They both have non-guaranteed contracts.

Blair has 2 years left and Neal too.

[TimmehC]

San Antonio Spurs

Needs: SG, PF/C

Picks: 29, 59



Worst analysis ever.

[Maddog]

j........ so like i said there are players @29 that can help us this year, ...


you can't find "help now" players when you are armed with a #29 pick and a #59 pick.......

I agree with the latter
Jeremy Tyler help right now?
Don't think so
I'm betting money-albeit not a lot (because predicting what the Spurs will do in the draft is beyond difficult) - that the Spurs trade their #1 pick.

[Mr. Body]

Don't think the #29 pick is worth a lot in trade. Could sell it, but likely they'll take a college guy they think will contribute off the bench. Jimmy Butler or Kyle Singler or someone like that.

[mountainballer]

jeremy tyler has the physical tools at 6'11 and super athletic so he can help us rigth now

Ian Mahinmi has the physical tools at 6'11 and super athletic so he can help us rigth now...oh wait
you mean, not any 6-11 guy with some athleticism will help us?
yes, because that 6-11 player fouled out long before he could even think about helping. Tyler couldn't stay on the court in the Japanese joke league. yeah man, Japan. the only interesting question would be, if he can break Ian's fouls per 40 minutes record.

[Tyrone Jenkins]

I really don't understand the enamour some people have w/ Jeremy Tyler. What has he ever done outside of look "decent" during the NBA combine to garner such interest? Was he that good in Isreal or Japan? How about HS? Is there something he did in Jr high that isn't posted everywhere that makes him interesting for the Spurs?

The Spurs have already displayed they don't like immature or troublesome players no matter how good they are. Even if Tyler were to straighten up from this day forward for ever, he still wouldn't be interesting to the Spurs...

[Mr. Body]

I really don't understand the enamour some people have w/ Jeremy Tyler. What has he ever done outside of look "decent" during the NBA combine to garner such interest? Was he that good in Isreal or Japan? How about HS? Is there something he did in Jr high that isn't posted everywhere that makes him interesting for the Spurs?

The Spurs have already displayed they don't like immature or troublesome players no matter how good they are. Even if Tyler were to straighten up from this day forward for ever, he still wouldn't be interesting to the Spurs...

Every year people start getting wishful and/or talking out their ass and forget what team they're a fan of and what kind of players that team goes for. The rest of the year, ironically, they commend that team for their upstanding, good character players.

[TheProfessor]

Every year people start getting wishful and/or talking out their ass and forget what team they're a fan of and what kind of players that team goes for. The rest of the year, ironically, they commend that team for their upstanding, good character players.
Maybe the sexting, gang-rape accusations, and extramarital affairs have lowered the Spurs' standards.

[Mr. Body]

Maybe the sexting, gang-rape accusations, and extramarital affairs have lowered the Spurs' standards.

I get your sarcasm, yet those are either not illegal, or lead to no convictions, and were all kept well within the team's camp on the DL. But you know this.

[Tyrone Jenkins]

Tony Parker...

Great kid (I can say kid cause I'm old), Finals MVP and NBA Champion. What odds would anyone put on his winning another championship w/ the Spurs w/ the possible moves that can be made in the next 3-5 years? 10:1? 50:1? I think the world of TP but it is time for the Spurs to use his value to obtain the future.

Trade him to Minnesota w/ DeJuan Blair for Martell Webster and the 4th overall pick. Or to Sacramento for Omri Casspi and the 7th overall pick.

Duncan, the Big Fundamental. Gentleman, leader and statesman. Four time champ and 2 time finals MVP. The greatest power forward to play the game (IMO). Let's pay him his final $21.5 million (no extension or other deals), watch him play another season, and ride off into the sunset.

Start him w/ Splitter and see what they can do - perhaps get an 7th or 8th seed next year, maybe the lottery. Either way, it makes no sense to just "contend" w/ no real chance of going deep into the playoffs.

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Cleveland's trying to get a 3rd first round pick -- in the 20's -- dangling its two second rounders (32 and 54) and maybe cash, sources say.


sam_amick Sam Amick
No kidding RT @SamAmicoFSO: Well, this much was made clear: "Minnesota obviously doesn't really even want Derrick Williams," says rival GM.

sam_amick Sam Amick
As Minnesota continues search for high-level player in exchange for No. 2 pick, source says T-Wolves made offer for Lakers C Andrew Bynum.

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
Minnesota has called just about every team in the league and made an offer of some sort. That's where all of these rumors are coming from.

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
That's why pretty much every rumor floating around involves the Wolves. Rival executives and agents are hearing the rumors and sharing info.

[TheProfessor]

I get your sarcasm, yet those are either not illegal, or lead to no convictions, and were all kept well within the team's camp on the DL. But you know this.
Of course. Point being, I don't think Tyler's actions are all that reprehensible. Immature, absolutely. But that doesn't preclude giving him a look based on talent (other players have been selected far higher based simply on that). I'm still not sure I'd want to give the guy guaranteed money, even assuming the Spurs were high on him.

[TheProfessor]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Cleveland's trying to get a 3rd first round pick -- in the 20's -- dangling its two second rounders (32 and 54) and maybe cash, sources say.


sam_amick Sam Amick
No kidding RT @SamAmicoFSO: Well, this much was made clear: "Minnesota obviously doesn't really even want Derrick Williams," says rival GM.

sam_amick Sam Amick
As Minnesota continues search for high-level player in exchange for No. 2 pick, source says T-Wolves made offer for Lakers C Andrew Bynum.

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
Minnesota has called just about every team in the league and made an offer of some sort. That's where all of these rumors are coming from.

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
That's why pretty much every rumor floating around involves the Wolves. Rival executives and agents are hearing the rumors and sharing info.
I can just imagine other GMs salivating over David Kahn making a foolish draft deal.

[Mr. Body]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Cleveland's trying to get a 3rd first round pick -- in the 20's -- dangling its two second rounders (32 and 54) and maybe cash, sources say.



I'd do this.

[ace3g]

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
The Spurs are expected to move #29. Plenty of teams are interested in acquiring it on draft night, but only if their guy is available.


AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
Add the Sacramento Kings to the list of teams that like Gilbert Brown in the second round. He had a great workout with them this afternoon.

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
The Chicago Bulls are trying to package their two first-round picks - #28 and #30 - to move up. They're talking to a few teams in the teens.

[Mr. Body]

Crap draft. Wouldn't be surprised to see them sell it for cash.

[DPG21920]

Like usual, I have no idea what the Spurs will do on draft night. With all the smoke around selling the pick + RC's comments about improving via trade, it's hard to make anything out. There are some things that work in theory, but when you are always drafting with late picks like the Spurs, it leaves a lot of room for volatility.

It's hard to imagine the Spurs keeping the pick in a weak draft, but I can also see a scenario where they trade up for a guy they really like. If it's a weak draft and there is somehow a discount to move up, a team like the Spurs with great scouts could see an opportunity to steal someone that is undervalued.

[ace3g]

vgoodwill Vincent Goodwill
by sam_amick
Source: Markieff Morris may have put himself in the mix for the No. 8 pick with the #Pistons with his workout today

[Pistons < Spurs]

Praying my Pistons take Markieff. Glad he did so well today!

[Bruno]

2 years ago, Spurs send a league wide mail saying that they would trade their pick while in fact they wanted to keep him to draft Batum and had Hill as plan B.

Hoopsworld isn't a reliable source but if the rumor about Spurs wanting to trade their pick if true, it could mean that they have someone targeted (Bertans or someone else).

[DPG21920]

Exactly. You can't really take any sources seriously or even the Spurs themselves in many cases.

But when you look at things that were said like RC's "trade comments" to not hear a whisper on that end, but to hear "rumors" that they want to trade out of the draft makes you think two things:

1) They really have a player or two they like in the draft

2) There is nothing going on because the Spurs don't have a lot of assets to trade.

[TheProfessor]

2 years ago, Spurs send a league wide mail saying that they would trade their pick while in fact they wanted to keep him to draft Batum and had Hill as plan B.

Hoopsworld isn't a reliable source but if the rumor about Spurs wanting to trade their pick if true, it could mean that they have someone targeted (Bertans or someone else).
I think you previously suggested they'd draft Mirotic; that's who I'm leaning toward right now.

[ace3g]

SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
Rising Congo forward Bismack Biyombo could be taken high as 5th by Raptors, an NBA executive said. Utah high on Knight. Wiz high on Vesely.

SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
A lot of teams interested in Kings No. 7 pick, NBA exec said.

[mountainballer]

so according to Wojnarowski from Yahoo the Spurs try to trade Tony for a high pick and that there is interest from late lottery teams to trade the pick for Hill.
the latter would explain, why the Spurs worked out several guys in that area.
what pick could Tony land? (report says it could be #5 or #7.)
#2 seems unrealistic, Wolves won't trade for another PG. (but who knows, it's the Wolves). Jazz have Harris. (Tony for Harris plus the #3 pick isn't realistic either).
but this means for 2 days we can speculate about any player (outside Irving and likely Williams).
Valanciunas anyone? Walker? Knight? Kanter?

my pick: for the higher pick it would be Valanciunas, for the late lottery it's Harris.

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Teams believe Charlotte has designs on specific player for No. 9. If he's off board, they think 'Cats will trade down to get multiple picks.

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Two players whose names keep coming up as likely to surprise on draft day: Duke's Kyle Singler and Michigan's Darius Morris.

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Two teams willing to draft 7-footer Jonas Valanciunas with expectation they could have to wait two years, sources say: Bucks and Warriors.

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Bucks and Warriors - picking 10th and 11th - are mostly enamored with Klay Thompson, sources say. G-State fears he won't be there for them.

[Mr. Body]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Two players whose names keep coming up as likely to surprise on draft day: Duke's Kyle Singler and Michigan's Darius Morris.


I fully believe Kyle Singler will be a 1st round pick. I don't think this is a surprise at all.

[wildbill2u]

Go here for Draft Express analysis of the stats on wing prospects--although it looks to me that a number of them are swing SF at best because of height.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Just-By-the-Numbers-the-2011-Wing-Crop-3750

[tdunk21]

@MHeislerLATimes
Mark Heisler
KLAY TO THE SPURS--OOPS.... Spurs also want to unload RJ and the three years and $30 mill left on his deal.... As if, er, no takers yet.


@MHeislerLATimes
Mark Heisler
FORGET 'RUMORED,' MYSTERY MAN SPURS WANT TO TRADE UP FOR IS DEFINITELY KLAY THOMPSON... Due in NY yesterday, detoured to SA to meet Pop, RC

[ace3g]

DraftExpress Jonathan Givony
by johnhollinger
Hearing Portland and Orlando are talking about swapping Andre Miller and Jameer Nelson, with the #21 pick going to Orlando.

chadfordinsider Chad Ford
Draft Buzz: Cavs trying to get a third lottery pick. Offering to take back a bad deal. Kings & Pistons are targets. http://t.co/IG2mWcC

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Kings have made it privately clear that they expect to trade 7th pick, sources say. "They're confident they have deal," one official says.