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BadOdor
08-11-2010, 12:33 PM
I'm looking to buy a new laptop, and honestly, I know jack shit about computers.
My own current laptop is 5 years old, and although it's [pretty amazing it still works, I think it's time to get a new one.

I was hoping some people here would be able to recommended any good deals or any general parameters I should be looking for.

My budget is in the 500-700 range, and I'm probably looking to get it from Amazon. Don;t think I'll need heavy gamers specs, although it would be nice to run the new diablo and games like warcraft, etc.

Looking through Amazon right now, most laptops have 4k ram, but I don't really know anything about what processor I should be looking for.

Any advice is appreciated.

Cry Havoc
08-11-2010, 12:52 PM
I'm looking to buy a new laptop, and honestly, I know jack shit about computers.
My own current laptop is 5 years old, and although it's [pretty amazing it still works, I think it's time to get a new one.

I was hoping some people here would be able to recommended any good deals or any general parameters I should be looking for.

My budget is in the 500-700 range, and I'm probably looking to get it from Amazon. Don;t think I'll need heavy gamers specs, although it would be nice to run the new diablo and games like warcraft, etc.

Looking through Amazon right now, most laptops have 4k ram, but I don't really know anything about what processor I should be looking for.

Any advice is appreciated.

How portable do you want it to be?

I just bought the Alienware M11x. It will run Diablo really well when it comes out, although it's a tiny laptop (11" screen, 4.5 pounds). But it has an HDMI out if you want to game on a TV or larger monitor, and you can find the laptop on slickdeals sometimes for around $700. Totally worth it IMO, this laptop is great.

Other than that, I think Asus makes a well priced mid-range laptop with a decent GPU for around $700.

PM5K
08-11-2010, 01:02 PM
Why do you think it's time to get a new one?

z0sa
08-11-2010, 01:10 PM
honestly, I know jack shit

ain't that the truth

BadOdor
08-11-2010, 01:10 PM
How portable do you want it to be?

I just bought the Alienware M11x. It will run Diablo really well when it comes out, although it's a tiny laptop (11" screen, 4.5 pounds). But it has an HDMI out if you want to game on a TV or larger monitor, and you can find the laptop on slickdeals sometimes for around $700. Totally worth it IMO, this laptop is great.

Other than that, I think Asus makes a well priced mid-range laptop with a decent GPU for around $700.

Thanks for the reply.

My current one has a 15" screen, and I like it just fine, so I think I'm looking for something similar.

Could you please post some links to those ones you mentioned?

BadOdor
08-11-2010, 01:10 PM
ain't that the troof

Please stop obsessing over me, creationist.

z0sa
08-11-2010, 01:16 PM
Please stop obsessing over me, creationist.

:lol what an ironic statement

BadOdor
08-11-2010, 01:20 PM
:lol what an ironic statement

Have you apologized for your anti-semitic remarks yet?

I think you totally should.

z0sa
08-11-2010, 01:22 PM
BadOdor isn't capable of thinking up an insult on his own. :lmao

koriwhat
08-11-2010, 01:57 PM
fuck BO!

Bender
08-11-2010, 02:12 PM
4k ram

BadOdor
08-11-2010, 03:21 PM
fuck BO!

Even you, calf tats?:depressed

MannyIsGod
08-11-2010, 03:46 PM
I had a thread like this recently. I bought a new Acer for 600 bucks recently that was a great buy, IMO.

What type of things are you doing with your laptop? Its really the most important question. If you're not going to game then 600 bucks will get you a damn good machine.

MannyIsGod
08-11-2010, 03:47 PM
Oh and don't let Zosa bother you. He complains about being trolled when it hits home and he's reminded how repulsive other people find him but as you can see from this thread he is more than capable of being a bitch.

z0sa
08-11-2010, 03:51 PM
Oh and don't let Zosa bother you. He complains about being trolled when it hits home and he's reminded how repulsive other people find him but as you can see from this thread he is more than capable of being a bitch.

lol defending and consoling badodor. he follows me around only slightly less than you do.

BadOdor
08-11-2010, 04:00 PM
I had a thread like this recently. I bought a new Acer for 600 bucks recently that was a great buy, IMO.

What type of things are you doing with your laptop? Its really the most important question. If you're not going to game then 600 bucks will get you a damn good machine.

Thanks for the in-topic reply manny. I was starting to think my thread was doomed now with 2 of the worst posters trying to derail it(lol creationist boy and calf tats).

As for the laptop, I'm not looking for a heavy gamer piece, but I would like it to be able to run games like diablo 3 or starcraft 2 decetnly well. Mostly I'd like it to be able to handle a lot of shit going on simultaneously.

Can you give me a link to the one you bought?

Thanks.

MannyIsGod
08-11-2010, 04:01 PM
I don't see how I defended him. I told him you were a whiny bitch but can you explain to me how that is defending him? Oh, and yeah, he totally followed you into this thread.

z0sa
08-11-2010, 04:04 PM
btw, sidenote: manny knows fuckall about technology.

MannyIsGod
08-11-2010, 04:04 PM
The one I bought won't run any games because the video card is not meant for gaming.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6261737&CatId=4938

I got mine about 100 bucks cheaper though. Tiger Direct had the best deals when I was looking around.

BadOdor
08-11-2010, 04:06 PM
The one I bought won't run any games because the video card is not meant for gaming.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6261737&CatId=4938

I got mine about 100 bucks cheaper though. Tiger Direct had the best deals when I was looking around.

I like the specs. 4 GB ram and 500 GB hard drive is about what I'm looking for, and the scree size is the same as my current laptop, which works well for me.

Definitely would like a video card though.

z0sa
08-11-2010, 04:06 PM
I don't see how I defended him.

And consoled him, you did both. Rather cute, how your obsession for me works.


I told him you were a whiny bitch but can you explain to me how that is defending him? Oh, and yeah, he totally followed you into this thread.

:lol creating threads kinda puts you at the center of attention, so one shouldn't complain or be surprised when the people one attempts to troll now takes shots at them for being ignorant.

MannyIsGod
08-11-2010, 04:11 PM
btw, sidenote: manny knows fuckall about technology.


And consoled him, you did both. Rather cute, how your obsession for me works.



:lol creating threads kinda puts you at the center of attention, so one shouldn't complain or be surprised when the people one attempts to troll now takes shots at them for being ignorant.

http://canuckjihad.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/crybaby.png?w=300&h=425

Have a nice day!

z0sa
08-11-2010, 04:11 PM
:lol MannyIsButthurt posting a cry-baby picture. The irony.

BadOdor
08-11-2010, 04:12 PM
Tbh a creationist calling someone ignorant is pretty high up there on the irony list, no?

Only fitting that calf tats and zosa would team up. Fitting pairing tbh.

z0sa
08-11-2010, 04:13 PM
I wonder which thread Manny will cry about my "repulsiveness" next.

BadOdor
08-11-2010, 04:14 PM
I wonder which thread Manny will cry about my "repulsiveness" next.

Can you take your obsession with manny somewhere else please? This is a serious thread. You and your buddy calf tats are not welcome.

z0sa
08-11-2010, 04:15 PM
The same shtick, everytime. No wonder you think "calf tats" is funny.

BadOdor
08-11-2010, 04:17 PM
The same shtick, everytime. No wonder you think "calf tats" is funny.

This is not a shtick. I open a thread looking for advice, and for some reason, your obsession forces you to post about how butt hurt you are about something I've said in a different thread. Is it really that hard to keep trolling to the appropriate threads, creationist? Was the abuse you took in the club the other day was not enough?

z0sa
08-11-2010, 04:17 PM
This is a serious thread. You and your buddy calf tats are not welcome.

Hey hey hey alright, I know when my welcome is overstayed. No reason to get all asshurt Manny style.

Just a suggestion: maybe you should use the search option next time, dumbass :lol

BadOdor
08-11-2010, 04:18 PM
Hey hey hey alright, I know when my welcome is overstayed. No reason to get all asshurt Manny style.

Just a suggestion: maybe you should use the search option next time, dumbass :lol

Catch ya later, creationist. Don't come back unless you have something to contribute.

MannyIsGod
08-11-2010, 04:23 PM
I like the specs. 4 GB ram and 500 GB hard drive is about what I'm looking for, and the scree size is the same as my current laptop, which works well for me.

Definitely would like a video card though.

Bounce around Tiger Direct and see what they have. Good site. I saw a lot of good deals.

Cry Havoc
08-11-2010, 04:59 PM
Slickdeals will usually have 5-6 laptops a week on a really good sale price.

Also, Best Buy offers 18 months no interest financing if you spend over $250 in store. Despite what some people say, they do offer extremely competitive prices on their computers, especially laptops.

ChumpDumper
08-11-2010, 09:02 PM
If you are going to try to play even a few games, go ahead and look for a laptop with a dedicated graphics card. This search should show a fair selection of what's available:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006740+600029658&QksAutoSuggestion=&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Configurator=&IsNodeId=1&Subcategory=32&description=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&srchInDesc=

BadOdor
08-11-2010, 11:04 PM
If you are going to try to play even a few games, go ahead and look for a laptop with a dedicated graphics card. This search should show a fair selection of what's available:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006740+600029658&QksAutoSuggestion=&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Configurator=&IsNodeId=1&Subcategory=32&description=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&srchInDesc=

Thanks for the link chump, but those are a bit outside my price range. I'm really not thinking anything extreme here, just a bit of gaming, mostly with older games.

Here is a nice laptop I like so far:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+VAIO+Laptop+/+Intel%26%23174%3B+Core%26%238482%3B+i3+Processor+/+15.5%22+Display+/+4GB+Memory+/+320GB+Hard+Drive+-+Maple+Brown/1021847.p?id=1218209984236&skuId=1021847

Nathan Explosion
08-12-2010, 12:09 AM
Before you buy anything, you might want to take a look at this.

http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/the-bates-4000/265867

DoKdynasty
08-12-2010, 01:01 AM
Only fitting that calf tats and zosa would team up. Fitting pairing tbh.
It's spectacular when these two and Leetonidas team up, they form the ultimate butthurt trio.

DoKdynasty
08-12-2010, 01:03 AM
Oh and regarding laptops I have a mac and I'll never be buying a PC again but if you wanna do any gaming whatsoever don't buy a mac.

Trainwreck2100
08-12-2010, 01:08 AM
Before you buy anything, you might want to take a look at this.

http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/the-bates-4000/265867

got my first laptop in 04 with a bitchin 512mb RAM 60GB harddrive it also came with a memory stick that held a bitchin 64megs


Got a new one in 08 which has now crapped out on me so im stuck using the old one again. I'm ever buying ACER again

Cry Havoc
08-12-2010, 01:43 AM
Thanks for the link chump, but those are a bit outside my price range. I'm really not thinking anything extreme here, just a bit of gaming, mostly with older games.

Here is a nice laptop I like so far:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+VAIO+Laptop+/+Intel%26%23174%3B+Core%26%238482%3B+i3+Processor+/+15.5%22+Display+/+4GB+Memory+/+320GB+Hard+Drive+-+Maple+Brown/1021847.p?id=1218209984236&skuId=1021847

The integrated video card means you won't be able to play anything that's remotely demanding as far as gaming goes. Basically forget about gaming if you pick that up.

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
08-12-2010, 02:02 AM
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Gateway+-+Laptop+with+AMD+Athlon%26%23153%3B+II+X2+Dual-Core+Processor+-+Midnight+Blue/9695339.p?id=1218150605281&skuId=9695339&st=gateway%20nv53&cp=1&lp=2

I recently picked up this one, great machine, only complaint I have is the mouse pad, but I use a wireless mouse anyways, so it's no big deal to me

Cry Havoc
08-12-2010, 02:09 AM
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Gateway+-+Laptop+with+AMD+Athlon%26%23153%3B+II+X2+Dual-Core+Processor+-+Midnight+Blue/9695339.p?id=1218150605281&skuId=9695339&st=gateway%20nv53&cp=1&lp=2

I recently picked up this one, great machine, only complaint I have is the mouse pad, but I use a wireless mouse anyways, so it's no big deal to me

That's a great deal on a laptop, but it's still really low on the graphics totem pole.

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
08-12-2010, 02:10 AM
Sorry, the page you requested was not found.

fixed, something with google chrome wasn't allowing me to copy/paste correctly, had to use firefox

ChumpDumper
08-12-2010, 04:18 AM
Thanks for the link chump, but those are a bit outside my price range. I'm really not thinking anything extreme here, just a bit of gaming, mostly with older games.

Here is a nice laptop I like so far:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+VAIO+Laptop+/+Intel%26%23174%3B+Core%26%238482%3B+i3+Processor+/+15.5%22+Display+/+4GB+Memory+/+320GB+Hard+Drive+-+Maple+Brown/1021847.p?id=1218209984236&skuId=1021847Uh, that's more expensive than the first four laptops listed in that search when you consider rebates and taxes, and the graphics chip on that Sony sucks.

I was actually surprised those laptops with dedicated graphics were available as low as $600. Might have to break down and get one.

007nites
08-12-2010, 07:28 AM
Go with a i5 or i7 processor.

BadOdor
08-12-2010, 09:45 AM
Uh, that's more expensive than the first four laptops listed in that search when you consider rebates and taxes, and the graphics chip on that Sony sucks.

I was actually surprised those laptops with dedicated graphics were available as low as $600. Might have to break down and get one.

Are those brands reliable though? I don't really know any of them.

BadOdor
08-12-2010, 09:47 AM
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Gateway+-+Laptop+with+AMD+Athlon%26%23153%3B+II+X2+Dual-Core+Processor+-+Midnight+Blue/9695339.p?id=1218150605281&skuId=9695339&st=gateway%20nv53&cp=1&lp=2

I recently picked up this one, great machine, only complaint I have is the mouse pad, but I use a wireless mouse anyways, so it's no big deal to me

I came upon the same laptop, the price is really nice but I don;t really want an AMD, rather i3 or i5.

ChumpDumper
08-12-2010, 11:54 AM
Are those brands reliable though? I don't really know any of them.You've never heard of Toshiba?

Acer makes a pretty decent computer. You can find models of that brand and several major retail outlets. I never had to use any support from them other than their website, which is pretty extensive.

Asus and MSI are well-known motherboard manufacturers.

In admit it's a little more dicey to buy a laptop online, but there aren't many laptops in that price range with good graphics at brick and mortar stores. If you find a retailer with a good return policy, you can send it back if there are any deal-breaking problems (getting to hot would be one for me these days).

Drachen
08-12-2010, 12:09 PM
You've never heard of Toshiba?

Acer makes a pretty decent computer. You can find models of that brand and several major retail outlets. I never had to use any support from them other than their website, which is pretty extensive.

Asus and MSI are well-known motherboard manufacturers.

In admit it's a little more dicey to buy a laptop online, but there aren't many laptops in that price range with good graphics at brick and mortar stores. If you find a retailer with a good return policy, you can send it back if there are any deal-breaking problems (getting to hot would be one for me these days).

My first laptop in 1998 was a toshiba and lasted for about 7 years (4 with me and then I sold it to a friend. I know he stopped using it about 3 years after that, but don't know what he did with it). I currently have had my Asus for about 2 and it is running strong. I also have a gateway and its battery died after about 2.5 years, but it is still running strong otherwise, my great-aunt is using it to pay her bills and such while staying in NV waiting for her husband to get heart surgery it is now 4.5 years old).

BTW I bought the asus because it was on clearance and I know they have been making quality video cards from my time when I built computers for people in the late 90s early 00s

Nathan Explosion
08-12-2010, 12:29 PM
I came upon the same laptop, the price is really nice but I don;t really want an AMD, rather i3 or i5.

I have a desktop that's 4 years old and still quick. It's running an AMD Athelon 64 dual core chip in it. I paid a lot of money but anything with Intel would have cost about $200-$300 more. Nothing wrong with AMD. I've even had some computer builders tell me the like AMD more. Personal preference I guess.

Drachen
08-12-2010, 12:32 PM
I have a desktop that's 4 years old and still quick. It's running an AMD Athelon 64 dual core chip in it. I paid a lot of money but anything with Intel would have cost about $200-$300 more. Nothing wrong with AMD. I've even had some computer builders tell me the like AMD more. Personal preference I guess.

I used to love AMD when I was building computers, steered people away from Intel all of the time, but since the core2duo series Intel has been waxing the hell out of AMD (though admittedly, I haven't done a ton of research into the i-series). It's sad really, I liked the whole underdog thing, but at the end of the day value/dollar has to drive me.

jimo2305
08-12-2010, 01:23 PM
i got the dell vostro series from newegg.com .. i liked that one.. it's within your budget..

MannyIsGod
08-12-2010, 01:28 PM
Toshiba's make excellent laptops. I can certainly vouch for Asus quality (so much so that their prices are climbing rapidly). I own my 2nd Acer now but the first died on me and I thought I was going to stay away from them. Well, it was too good a deal to pass up, IMO, and almost everyone has good things so say about Acer so I gave them another shot. A few months in all is fine.

Muser
08-12-2010, 02:00 PM
z0sa you are fucking retarded tbh.



lol defending and consoling badodor. he follows me around only slightly less than you do.

Great logic considering BO created the thread and you came into it with no helpful answer whatsoever.


btw, sidenote: manny knows fuckall about technology.

He's already posted and tried to help the OP, all you've done is be a douchebag and complain like a fucking child.

koriwhat
08-12-2010, 02:18 PM
Can you take your obsession with manny somewhere else please? This is a serious thread. You and your buddy calf tats are not welcome.

funny how when the tables are turned and it's your thread we're in you go crying like a little bitch hoping we stop calling you names.



Is it really that hard to keep trolling to the appropriate threads

seems appropriate enough of a thread to me. lets see... you sit on ST and give me hell but don't want the same treatment in your thread? who the fuck do you think you are? you think you're special? fuck that!

i'm all for being cool with anyone here on ST but a ton of yall have made that hard to do so what comes around goes around. get it? ok!


Don't come back unless you have something to contribute.

wow those are the same words i've said to you and plenty of others in various threads. what's the world coming to?

z0sa
08-12-2010, 02:22 PM
z0sa you are fucking retarded tbh.

and you have no fucking clue what you're talking about, tbh.





Great logic considering BO created the thread and you came into it with no helpful answer whatsoever.

You do realize BadOdor is a troll, right? That he's spent more time trying to troll me than anyone?

Just checking.




He's already posted and tried to help the OP, all you've done is be a douchebag and complain like a fucking child.

:lol Manny deserves every single ounce of hate he gets from me. I asked him multiple times to drop the tough guy act and ignore me, but he wouldn't. Every thread BadOdor/Manny posts in that I do, they call me out.

:lol you're the retarded one, or at least ignorant, tbh. Good job derailing the thread further, and great advice you've given!

I love Muse, btw.

koriwhat
08-12-2010, 02:28 PM
btw my boss at the screen printing place just got a nice little toshiba laptop, granted the screen is a bit smaller than my liking, for $300 at best buy. works great.

my friend has an older acer 17" which is real nice.

and i know CryBaby won't like this suggestion, unless games are what you're really after, but i'd buy a mac laptop over anything else. if my price range is what yours is i'd go with that toshiba or something similar in price and put ubuntu on it unless once again playing games is the deal breaker.

good luck!

z0sa
08-12-2010, 02:28 PM
seems appropriate enough of a thread to me. lets see... you sit on ST and give me hell but don't want the same treatment in your thread? who the fuck do you think you are? you think you're special? fuck that!

:lol Exactly. Koriwhat owning BO. This dumbass (BO) runs around trying desperately at trolling people like he's part of the MK or some shit and then gets butthurt and probably complained to Kori over us talking shit and fucking his thread up.

Use the search option, 1, and two go fuck yourself and anyone defending you, your thread, or your bullshit.

koriwhat
08-12-2010, 02:30 PM
I'm Lovin' It!
http://vivirlatino.com/i/2008/07/mcdonalds-kid.jpg

Muser
08-12-2010, 02:59 PM
and you have no fucking clue what you're talking about, tbh.






You do realize BadOdor is a troll, right? That he's spent more time trying to troll me than anyone?

Just checking.





:lol Manny deserves every single ounce of hate he gets from me. I asked him multiple times to drop the tough guy act and ignore me, but he wouldn't. Every thread BadOdor/Manny posts in that I do, they call me out.

:lol you're the retarded one, or at least ignorant, tbh. Good job derailing the thread further, and great advice you've given!

I love Muse, btw.

Badodor might be a troll but he was asking for advice, no need to be butthurt over Manny/badodor because of threads in the past. Since when did Manny have a tough guy act? :lmao He's one of the best posters on the site.

z0sa
08-12-2010, 03:02 PM
Badodor might be a troll but he was asking for advice, no need to be butthurt over Manny/badodor because of threads in the past.

Oh! He was asking for advice! Every one respect the troll!

:lol laughable.


Since when did Manny have a tough guy act?

Guess you didn't notice amid making fun of me in a lame attempt to fit in. He even considers himself an asshole. I guess you truly are ignorant.


:lmao He's one of the best posters on the site.

Suck his dick already :lol

Muser
08-12-2010, 03:03 PM
So you are butthurt over badodor trolling in the past? And of someone over the internet making fun of you? Holy shit.

z0sa
08-12-2010, 03:05 PM
So you are butthurt over badodor trolling in the past? And of someone over the internet making fun of you? Holy shit.

Let me ask you this: why have you joined in making fun of me in 2 threads before this, and now are calling me out in this one?

What are you so butthurt about? I haven't ever even replied to you til now. I thought you were a decent poster, definitely off base there.

BTW, to answer your question: I gave dumbass some advice, use the search option because this question has been asked before, and recently, and explored in depth. I guess you are also too ignorant to realize that as contributing.

Ignignokt
08-12-2010, 03:09 PM
What do you think about Sony laptops???

Muser
08-12-2010, 03:12 PM
I'm not butthurt tbh, you just seemed butthurt coming into this thread and I called you out on it.

Oh and lol at the search button. Even if it has been answered before does it matter? I'm sure one new thread in one of the least used forums on spurstalk won't hurt.

z0sa
08-12-2010, 03:13 PM
I'm not butthurt tbh, you just seemed butthurt coming into this thread and I called you out on it.

According to your logic, I'm butthurt about previous times they attempted to troll me. Untrue, since they've harassed me over and over, and this is the first time I've even attempted entering one of their threads with insults in mind. IOW, quite the opposite.

Tell me, which times have I attempted to troll you? What other excuse is there for you calling me out?

IOW: why do you care if I'm not butthurt?


Oh and lol at the search button. Even if it has been answered before does it matter? I'm sure one new thread in one of the least used forums on spurstalk won't hurt.

:lol @ totally missing the point. You said I didn't contribute shit or suggest anything. I indeed, contributed quite a bit, for there's many answers to this question posed.

Drachen
08-12-2010, 03:20 PM
(look closely and you can see exactly how what should be a 2-3 page thread turns into a 7-10 page thread. It seems that many in this species are unable to ignore useless words that others hurl in their direction. Only in the wild can you observe this kind of realism.)

Cry Havoc
08-12-2010, 03:32 PM
and i know CryBaby won't like this suggestion, unless games are what you're really after, but i'd buy a mac laptop over anything else.

lol $500-700 price range, of course you're going to respond with buying a Mac. Why wouldn't you? They only cost about double what the OPs budget for the computer is. :lol

If he was asking about which netbook to get, would you recommend a 12-Core Mac Pro, too? I mean, it's only $5000, but it's so TEH AWESOME. :lol


I used to love AMD when I was building computers, steered people away from Intel all of the time, but since the core2duo series Intel has been waxing the hell out of AMD (though admittedly, I haven't done a ton of research into the i-series). It's sad really, I liked the whole underdog thing, but at the end of the day value/dollar has to drive me.

To be honest, it's much less of a big deal today than it was in the past. I mean, even if an AMD quad-core isn't as fast as an i7, most processors are completely overkill for anything you're going to do on a computer anyway, and the gaming differences in processors aren't that great. AMD still holds a pretty sizable price advantage over Intel, so there's still a case to be made that you can buy an AMD chip and save money, although Intel is a faster processor.

Looking back now, it's really strange. Every 18 months or so, the advantage seemed to tip toward whoever was behind in overall speed. Intel was on top until the K6 came out, then they came back with the Pentium IIIs, the P4s were garbage so AMD dominated again, and they held a big advantage with the Athlon 64x2, but now it's swung once again. And every time I go to buy a computer, Intel is in the lead, so all of my processors have been Intel. Videocards are a different story... but I've had good luck with both ATI and Nvidia to this point.

and :lol at the back and forth in this thread. You all take this forum a little too seriously. :lol

John McEnroe
08-12-2010, 03:33 PM
wow z0sa!

even I can't top your meltdowns!!!

z0sa
08-12-2010, 03:55 PM
(look closely and you can see exactly how what should be a 2-3 page thread turns into a 7-10 page thread. It seems that many in this species are unable to ignore useless words that others hurl in their direction. Only in the wild can you observe this kind of realism.)

:lol it's not about ignoring. That would be too easy. It's a lot better to get some kicks out of the insults coming my way.

z0sa
08-12-2010, 03:56 PM
wow z0sa!

even I can't top your meltdowns!!!

I never melt down :wakeup

koriwhat
08-12-2010, 04:48 PM
lol $500-700 price range, of course you're going to respond with buying a Mac. Why wouldn't you? They only cost about double what the OPs budget for the computer is. :lol

If he was asking about which netbook to get, would you recommend a 12-Core Mac Pro, too? I mean, it's only $5000, but it's so TEH AWESOME. :lol



maybe you just have poor reading comprehension but i did suggest a $300 laptop first.

if he was asking about which dildo to get you'd just pull the one out of your ass and hand it over.

CryBaby cries again!

TIMMYD!
08-12-2010, 05:22 PM
I need help also. I travel every weekend and was looking for something with a long lasting battery life and then I stumbled upon this baby: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Toshiba+-+Satellite+Laptop+with+Intel%26%23174;+Core%26%231 53;+i3+Processor+-+Quantum+Black/9703393.p?id=1218153394199&skuId=9703393

But after looking around at Walmart I saw they had a great deal for an Acer Laptop: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-17.3-Aspire-AS7535-5020-Laptop-PC-with-AMD-Dual-Core-Processor-Windows-7-Home-Premium/13228496

Now I'm on the fence about which one to get. What do ya'll think I should do?

P.S. I don't want to go over $700.

Cry Havoc
08-12-2010, 05:24 PM
maybe you just have poor reading comprehension but i did suggest a $300 laptop first.

The OP said he wants to game, and your recommendations are a $300 laptop or a Mac? It's almost like you read what the OP put, then decided to tell him to get the exact opposite of what he's looking for.

To review, my recommendations are:

In his price range, and considerate of his desires for what he wants to do with the laptop.

Your recommendations are completely out of his price range and insufficient for his needs.

Who's got the reading comprehension problem here?

Cry Havoc
08-12-2010, 05:27 PM
I need help also. I travel every weekend and was looking for something with a long lasting battery life and then I stumbled upon this baby: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Toshiba+-+Satellite+Laptop+with+Intel%26%23174;+Core%26%231 53;+i3+Processor+-+Quantum+Black/9703393.p?id=1218153394199&skuId=9703393

But after looking around at Walmart I saw they had a great deal for an Acer Laptop: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-17.3-Aspire-AS7535-5020-Laptop-PC-with-AMD-Dual-Core-Processor-Windows-7-Home-Premium/13228496

Now I'm on the fence about which one to get. What do ya'll think I should do?

P.S. I don't want to go over $750.

The Best Buy link isn't working for me.

What do you want to do with the laptop? You said you travel every day... 17" is a huge laptop, and it might not be as convenient.

What size would you like, are you going to game?

TIMMYD!
08-12-2010, 05:32 PM
The Best Buy link isn't working for me.

What do you want to do with the laptop? You said you travel every day... 17" is a huge laptop, and it might not be as convenient.

What size would you like, are you going to game?

Yeah, I tried to fix it but it won't work.

And I mostly use it to watch movies on the road and the internet. I don't game at all and I think it is actually a 16".

BadOdor
08-12-2010, 05:54 PM
The OP said he wants to game, and your recommendations are a $300 laptop or a Mac? It's almost like you read what the OP put, then decided to tell him to get the exact opposite of what he's looking for.

To review, my recommendations are:

In his price range, and considerate of his desires for what he wants to do with the laptop.

Your recommendations are completely out of his price range and insufficient for his needs.

Who's got the reading comprehension problem here?

Give him some credit, he's actually trying to post something somewhat related to the topic....of course he's still stupid as fuck, and has serious issues with reading comprehension(lol 300$ mac), but hey, it's an improvement.

I've definately heard of Toshiba/Sony/Hp/Dell, but don;t know anything about Acer/Asus. But if you people can vouch for their quality, I'm not gonna just skip them from now on.

My sister got a sweet deal on a laptop btw, I can;t find it right now but basically she got a 650$ laptop for 500. I might just wait a week or so and see if any similar deals pop on amazon/best buy.

BadOdor
08-12-2010, 06:04 PM
P.S sons I'll be damned if I let a creationist and a male secretary ruin a perfectly good advice thread!

Please stay on topic.

MannyIsGod
08-12-2010, 06:54 PM
Asus netbooks and laptops are really good. They are the anti-Zosa's of the laptop world. In otherwords, nearly everyone likes them.

Drachen
08-12-2010, 07:06 PM
Give him some credit, he's actually trying to post something somewhat related to the topic....of course he's still stupid as fuck, and has serious issues with reading comprehension(lol 300$ mac), but hey, it's an improvement.

I've definately heard of Toshiba/Sony/Hp/Dell, but don;t know anything about Acer/Asus. But if you people can vouch for their quality, I'm not gonna just skip them from now on.

My sister got a sweet deal on a laptop btw, I can;t find it right now but basically she got a 650$ laptop for 500. I might just wait a week or so and see if any similar deals pop on amazon/best buy.

I will absolutely vouch for asus quality. Acer, I have no experience with except the stupid netbook my wife's parents bought my stepdaughter. It is slower than the computers I was building in 2000. However, the only other netbook I touched (a dell) was also glacierly slow. How soon do you need this? I'll bet you can get a good deal over labor day weekend. Also, are computers included in tax free weekend?

MannyIsGod
08-12-2010, 07:14 PM
Nah laptops aren't included. Its one big reason to buy online, IMO. In addition to places who already have lower costs and free shipping a lot of the time you also save sales tax.

koriwhat
08-12-2010, 08:17 PM
and has serious issues with reading comprehension(lol 300$ mac)

yeah i have poor reading comprehension hahahaha! who the fuck suggested a "$300 mac"? dumbfuck!


P.S sons I'll be damned if I let a creationist and a male secretary ruin a perfectly good advice thread!

i'm more than a "male secretary", i am also a screen printer and a freelance designer but i get it, it's ok. i understand the dumbfuck humor of the fag squad and their fluffers.

BadOdor
08-12-2010, 08:51 PM
Here's a laptop I like:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003M5GVNK/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Can anyone give me a bit more detail about it? it seems new, so no user reviews yet.

Thanks.

Cry Havoc
08-12-2010, 09:00 PM
It's 6.4 pounds. Not very portable for the specs you're getting.

MannyIsGod
08-12-2010, 09:03 PM
I paid less for my i5 with a 180gb bigger HDD.

BadOdor
08-12-2010, 09:05 PM
Dang, and here I was thinking I finally found the one....:(

Cry, I'm not overly concerned with how portable it is, to be honest. Won;t be moving it much.

Manny, did you buy yours for some type of a deal? I think i3 and 320 is plenty enough fr my purposes.

BadOdor
08-12-2010, 09:11 PM
Also, kinda weird that there are no reviews on it on Amazon, it having been on sale since early 2009. Haven't found any looking on google yet either...

Nathan Explosion
08-12-2010, 10:27 PM
Truth be told, I love Macs. As a kid I grew up using Macs and actually learned some Dos commands. When everyone was raving about Windows 95, I just told them it made a PC like a Mac.

My iBook G4 is still alive and kicking, all 800 mhz of processor speed. :) When my keyboard gave out, I didn't want a wireless keyboard because I didn't want to worry about batteries. I ended up buying a Mac keyboard and I just love the feel of it. I can't explain it. Plus, it's much easier to clean between the keys.

But I've also become partial to HPs. My desktop is one and it's working great even after 4 years. I've messed with the laptops and just love them. I like portable laptops. My Mac can actually fit in my backpack so I like that. HP seems to make some fast, portable laptops.

But if you want gaming, look at the video card, processing speed and RAM. The more memory you have up front and within the card the better off you're going to be.

ChumpDumper
08-13-2010, 01:34 AM
Here's a laptop I like:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003M5GVNK/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Can anyone give me a bit more detail about it? it seems new, so no user reviews yet.

Thanks.I thought you wanted good graphics.

BadOdor
08-13-2010, 07:24 AM
I thought you wanted good graphics.

How bad is the graphics card here? Again, I'm really not gonna run any hardcore games. Also, pretty sure you can pick up a decent card from fry's for 50-100 bucks, no?

Other than that, what do you think about the laptop chump?

Cry Havoc
08-13-2010, 10:52 AM
How bad is the graphics card here? Again, I'm really not gonna run any hardcore games. Also, pretty sure you can pick up a decent card from fry's for 50-100 bucks, no?

Other than that, what do you think about the laptop chump?

Pretty much any video card that doesn't list the specific amount of onboard RAM it carries (usually 512 mb or 1 gb) is going to be crap. If you see "Intel Media Accelerator" or anything of that sort... stay away. Accelerators are junk for gaming.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6500360&Sku=I26-150005

That's a phenomenal notebook that's got a KILLER video card in it... the 260m will play anything on the market at high settings easily.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5753605&CatId=4965

This is non-refurbished, so it might be a better buy.

koriwhat
08-13-2010, 11:27 AM
The OP said he wants to game


Again, I'm really not gonna run any hardcore games.

so CryBaby he wants to game(!) or he wants to game? :lol

Cry Havoc
08-13-2010, 11:45 AM
so CryBaby he wants to game(!) or he wants to game? :lol

He said he wants to run Diablo 3 and Warcraft (presumably WC3 or WoW).

So, I'm curious. Will the $300 laptop you suggested he buy run Diablo 3? A simple yes or no answer will suffice here.

BadOdor
08-13-2010, 12:28 PM
Pretty much any video card that doesn't list the specific amount of onboard RAM it carries (usually 512 mb or 1 gb) is going to be crap. If you see "Intel Media Accelerator" or anything of that sort... stay away. Accelerators are junk for gaming.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6500360&Sku=I26-150005

That's a phenomenal notebook that's got a KILLER video card in it... the 260m will play anything on the market at high settings easily.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5753605&CatId=4965

This is non-refurbished, so it might be a better buy.

Got it. Thanks for the link.

One more thing - how much will it cost me to buy a card separately, assuming sometime in the future I change my mind about running some serious games?

MannyIsGod
08-13-2010, 12:37 PM
You typically can't upgrade video cards in laptops. Honestly, if in the future you want to run a game and you already have a monitor the best idea is to just build a desktop for that game.

BadOdor
08-13-2010, 12:46 PM
You typically can't upgrade video cards in laptops. Honestly, if in the future you want to run a game and you already have a monitor the best idea is to just build a desktop for that game.

Fuck it then, I'm gonna get at the very least, a decent one.

So basically anything that mentions how much memory it runs is already better than the "internal" shit, right?

P.S Chump mentioned dedicated graphics card, those are pretty good, right?

Cry Havoc
08-13-2010, 12:58 PM
Fuck it then, I'm gonna get at the very least, a decent one.

So basically anything that mentions how much memory it runs is already better than the "internal" shit, right?

P.S Chump mentioned dedicated graphics card, those are pretty good, right?

Dedicated and internal are two types of graphics cards.

Dedicated means that the card is separate from the motherboard, and has it's own RAM to use in games. Internal means the card is actually a part of the motherboard, and "shares" the RAM with the system.

If you're looking to play games into the future, I would recommend nothing less than the Alienware or the Asus. A 260m should set you up to play games for a couple of years down the road, at the very least.

BadOdor
08-13-2010, 02:40 PM
Dedicated and internal are two types of graphics cards.

Dedicated means that the card is separate from the motherboard, and has it's own RAM to use in games. Internal means the card is actually a part of the motherboard, and "shares" the RAM with the system.

If you're looking to play games into the future, I would recommend nothing less than the Alienware or the Asus. A 260m should set you up to play games for a couple of years down the road, at the very least.

What do you think about this one?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115806

Cry Havoc
08-13-2010, 03:04 PM
What do you think about this one?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115806

It's decent, but I'm not sure how it will run Diablo III. The 260m will stomp all over it, but the 5470 will give you better battery life.

BadOdor
08-13-2010, 03:25 PM
Okay, so basically I'm down to a couple of choices: I've realized gaming is not a big priority, but if I can get a decent graphics card for the same price, I'll do it:

This one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003M5GVNK/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Graphics card here is :Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M with 64 MB - 1696 MB of dynamically allocated shared graphics memory

And this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-AS5745-3428-15-6-Inch-Laptop/dp/B003LL2D0U/ref=sr_1_31?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1281730632&sr=1-31

With graphics card :Intel HD Graphics with 128 MB of dedicated system memory

Prices are 650 and 700 respectively.

How much better is the second one's graphic card?

I also like that the Acer has an i5 processor.

Cry Havoc
08-13-2010, 03:36 PM
How much better is the second one's graphic card?

I also like that the Acer has an i5 processor.

They will be very similar in performance for any modern game.

BadOdor
08-13-2010, 03:37 PM
They will be very similar in performance for any modern game.

Got it, thanks.

I think I've made my choice then.

Thanks for those who provided helpful feedback.

Cry Havoc
08-13-2010, 05:54 PM
Still waiting on a yes or no from you on whether a $300 laptop is adequate to run Diablo III, kori.

Wild Cobra
08-13-2010, 05:59 PM
I'm still waiting for a 1200P laptop under $1k.

MannyIsGod
08-13-2010, 06:06 PM
I'm still waiting for a 1200P laptop under $1k.

Who wants a 1200p portable computer? Good luck telling the difference on a 15 inch screen.

TinTin
08-13-2010, 07:35 PM
Okay, so basically I'm down to a couple of choices: I've realized gaming is not a big priority, but if I can get a decent graphics card for the same price, I'll do it:

This one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003M5GVNK/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Graphics card here is :Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M with 64 MB - 1696 MB of dynamically allocated shared graphics memory

And this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-AS5745-3428-15-6-Inch-Laptop/dp/B003LL2D0U/ref=sr_1_31?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1281730632&sr=1-31

With graphics card :Intel HD Graphics with 128 MB of dedicated system memory

Prices are 650 and 700 respectively.

How much better is the second one's graphic card?

I also like that the Acer has an i5 processor.

Both vid cards are crap. They are not even decent for normal games

Nathan Explosion
08-13-2010, 09:14 PM
I'm not a graphics card expert, but didn't anyone just say that the Intel Media Accelerators were crap?

Wild Cobra
08-13-2010, 09:19 PM
Who wants a 1200p portable computer? Good luck telling the difference on a 15 inch screen.
I'm sorry that you have shitty eyes.

Must be jerking off enough to go blind.

I can see small details. I love my 1920 x 1200 monitor, and will not buy a 1440 x 900 laptop. For work, I need to clearly see PDF files in the 17 x 11 inch sizes. I don't have enough need for a laptop, so I'm just waiting for the prices top come down.

Besides, I would want a 17" widescreen. Also real nice to be able to read two full page documents side by side, or have two good sized (in resolution) windows open next to each other.

Again, I'm sorry that your eyes are so poor.

MannyIsGod
08-13-2010, 10:12 PM
K super eyes. Enjoy your 1200p laptops. I'll stick to buying something that addresses my needs in a portable fashion.

Cry Havoc
08-13-2010, 10:56 PM
Again, I'm sorry that your eyes are so poor.

:lmao

Wow. WC once again proves that he can be a total asshole with no provocation at all.

CuckingFunt
08-13-2010, 11:18 PM
n3dRaEpDruw

MannyIsGod
08-14-2010, 12:10 AM
:lmao @ that commercial.

But really, is telling someone they have bad eyesight really being an asshole? Its an insult along the lines of "your mom goes to college".

Cry Havoc
08-14-2010, 01:32 AM
:lmao @ that commercial.

But really, is telling someone they have bad eyesight really being an asshole? Its an insult along the lines of "your mom goes to college".

:lol

He's certainly trying to make it seem like a nasty insult. The intent is definitely there.

TinTin
08-14-2010, 01:55 AM
I'm sorry that you have shitty eyes.

Must be jerking off enough to go blind.

I can see small details. I love my 1920 x 1200 monitor, and will not buy a 1440 x 900 laptop. For work, I need to clearly see PDF files in the 17 x 11 inch sizes. I don't have enough need for a laptop, so I'm just waiting for the prices top come down.

Besides, I would want a 17" widescreen. Also real nice to be able to read two full page documents side by side, or have two good sized (in resolution) windows open next to each other.

Again, I'm sorry that your eyes are so poor.

It really has nothing to do with eyes. You just fell for a marketing gimmick which disguises the fact that a 1200 is just a 1080 worked around. That 1080 and 1200 won't make a difference as manny said even if you can see "small details".

I guess your one hand is always busy to not be able to hit page down in your pdf file or not realize the existence of the alt tab method

Nice way to get exposed as an ignorant asshole

Nathan Explosion
08-14-2010, 05:26 AM
It really has nothing to do with eyes. You just fell for a marketing gimmick which disguises the fact that a 1200 is just a 1080 worked around. That 1080 and 1200 won't make a difference as manny said even if you can see "small details".

I guess your one hand is always busy to not be able to hit page down in your pdf file or not realize the existence of the alt tab method

Nice way to get exposed as an ignorant asshole

Alt tab? Why that requires two motions. That's way too much work for some people.

Cry Havoc
08-14-2010, 12:17 PM
I can see small details. I love my 1920 x 1200 monitor, and will not buy a 1440 x 900 laptop.

Besides, I would want a 17" widescreen.

And :lmao at WC's ignorance.

I have a 4 year old 17" Dell laptop. What's the resolution? 1920x1200.

FOUR YEARS OLD. :lmao

PM5K
08-14-2010, 12:23 PM
Wow, I never realized that if you put the wrong couple of fags in a thread they can turn a one page topic into five quite easily.

Nathan Explosion
08-14-2010, 05:54 PM
I have a 1440x900 monitor. So what's the difference when viewing movies? I know you can use the extra space when having 2 windows open, but there's no perceptible difference when viewing a movie.

I've hooked up my computer to my TV and don't see a big difference between 900 and 1080. So I know the difference between 1080 and 1200 isn't that great either.

Wild Cobra
08-14-2010, 11:11 PM
:lmao

Wow. WC once again proves that he can be a total asshole with no provocation at all.
I consider the asshole the one who says 1920 x 1200 is too much for a 16 or 17" screen. If they aren't being an asshole, they must have bad eyes, so I was being nice. not an asshole. At least the first time.

I'm tired of people telling making statements out of ignorance. The same was said in this forum about my 24" wide screen monitor.

Go cry wolf elsewhere. Stop stepping on the truth.

Macbook Pro 17-inch Technical Specifications (http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs-17inch.html)

Wild Cobra
08-14-2010, 11:13 PM
It really has nothing to do with eyes. You just fell for a marketing gimmick which disguises the fact that a 1200 is just a 1080 worked around. That 1080 and 1200 won't make a difference as manny said even if you can see "small details".

I guess your one hand is always busy to not be able to hit page down in your pdf file or not realize the existence of the alt tab method

Nice way to get exposed as an ignorant asshole
My God.

Some of you are so stupid.

I see the difference.

Wild Cobra
08-14-2010, 11:17 PM
Alt tab? Why that requires two motions. That's way too much work for some people.
You obviously don't use a computer like I do. I usually have several applications open. Sometimes I'm using two windows side by side to transfer data. Much easier not to have to do that. I have several PDF files that are in 11" x 17". I don't like scrolling to see complex schematics. Only a 1920 x 1200 or larger monitor makes them legible without scrolling.

You guys always so ignorant?

BlackSwordsMan
08-14-2010, 11:39 PM
How can one acquire these super eyes?

Wild Cobra
08-14-2010, 11:43 PM
Hey ignorant shitheads. 1200P is not a 1080P work-a-round. I have a true 1200 pixils of height. These monitors are more expensive than 1920 x 1050 monitors, and hard to find without ordering.

Time for some schooling:

wiki: WUXGA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WUXGA)

ElNono
08-14-2010, 11:53 PM
Not that hard to find. I have a 1920x1200 (16:10 aspect, 27") and bought it at Costco about a year ago.

That said, I thought this was a laptop thread...

ElNono
08-14-2010, 11:56 PM
And BTW, it's not true that you can't tell the difference with high DPIs. The retina display is super noticeable compared to older displays and it's only 3.5 inches.

TinTin
08-15-2010, 12:00 AM
Hey ignorant shitheads. 1200P is not a 1080P work-a-round. I have a true 1200 pixils of height. These monitors are more expensive than 1920 x 1050 monitors, and hard to find without ordering.

Time for some schooling:

wiki: WUXGA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WUXGA)



After reading that if you think there is a significant difference between a 1200 and a 1080 or that it isnt a 1080 workaround then ... :lmao

Nevermind man, I don't want to deviate from the main point of the thread. Here, you are completely right and I admit I was wrong

Wild Cobra
08-15-2010, 12:02 AM
How can one acquire these super eyes?
There is nothing 'super' about them. I guess if you haven't used a refined monitor, you just don't know what you're missing.

Think about it. A 17" monitor is about 14.5" x 9". Color groups are 0.19 mm apart. If you cannot see that fine, then what's the point... at least for you.

The new iPones have a 960 x 480 resolution on a 3.5" screen. That would be smaller than half the pixil size of a 17" laptop at 1920 x 1200. If the iPhones resolution used the same dot pitch at 14", then it would be a 3840 x 1920 resolution.

I guess my Behold II is all the better anyone can see at 480 x 240 by the consensus here.

When will you all stop believing market hype of someone selling 1080p because they don't have 1200p?

Wild Cobra
08-15-2010, 12:03 AM
After reading that if you think there is a significant difference between a 1200 and a 1080 or that it isnt a 1080 workaround then ... :lmao

Nevermind man, I don't want to deviate from the main point of the thread. Here, you are completely right and I admit I was wrong
I know for fact it is a true 1200 pixils high. You simply prove yourself the fool.

Wild Cobra
08-15-2010, 12:04 AM
Not that hard to find. I have a 1920x1200 (16:10 aspect, 27") and bought it at Costco about a year ago.

That said, I thought this was a laptop thread...
True, but these people seem to think 1200p doesn't matter, and some think it doesn't exist.

ChumpDumper
08-15-2010, 04:36 AM
I know for fact it is a true 1200 pixils high. You simply prove yourself the fool.Did you count them?

Nathan Explosion
08-15-2010, 09:09 AM
How large of a screen do you have to have that high of a resolution and still be able to see the details on the schematics that you're using?

You see, as we all know, the higher the resolution, the smaller things get on the screen. So if you're going 1200p on a 17" monitor, then everything is going to be so small, some zooming is going to be required to see details. Kind of defeats the purpose of having that high of a resolution.

Again, when I hook up my computer to my 32" 1080p TV, some details get lost in the upgrade, and that's 32". Not only that, but you're actually doing more damage to your eyes than good operating with such a high resolution, in a smaller screen than 32" and at that close a proximity. And if the screen is larger, that's even worse.

When it comes to watching movies, playing games and what not, the higher the resolution and the bigger the screen, the better it is because of the distance between you and the screen.

But when it comes to working on a computer, you're talking about a distance of less than 2 feet between you and the screen. That's just not healthy for your eyes, unless you have super eyes as someone else mentioned. I imagine this is what you must look like at work.
http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2008/11/77%20Huge%20Computer%20Monitor.jpg

Wild Cobra
08-15-2010, 09:02 PM
How large of a screen do you have to have that high of a resolution and still be able to see the details on the schematics that you're using?

My home monitor is 24". I have seen the same files on the Mac Powerbooks, and the detail is still there.


You see, as we all know, the higher the resolution, the smaller things get on the screen. So if you're going 1200p on a 17" monitor, then everything is going to be so small, some zooming is going to be required to see details. Kind of defeats the purpose of having that high of a resolution.

Duh...

I listed the color groups at 0.19 mm apart. Didn't I.


Again, when I hook up my computer to my 32" 1080p TV, some details get lost in the upgrade, and that's 32".
Well, if you sent a proper signal to it, there wouldn't be that "upgrade distortion," would there...


Not only that, but you're actually doing more damage to your eyes than good operating with such a high resolution, in a smaller screen than 32" and at that close a proximity.
Sure, with a tube monitor...


And if the screen is larger, that's even worse.

It depends on distance.


When it comes to watching movies, playing games and what not, the higher the resolution and the bigger the screen, the better it is because of the distance between you and the screen.

What good is watching a 1080p movie on a 900p, 768p, or smaller monitor?


But when it comes to working on a computer, you're talking about a distance of less than 2 feet between you and the screen. That's just not healthy for your eyes, unless you have super eyes as someone else mentioned. I imagine this is what you must look like at work.

Ha. ha.

Wild Cobra
08-15-2010, 09:38 PM
OK, for shits and giggles, I made a simple checkerboard type box, pixil by pixil in a small Paint window of 789 x 598. It takes up just less than half my screen height and much less than half the width:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/Misc/camera0000.jpg

I took a picture of it with my camera, and cropped the pertinent part to 1024 x 900:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x262/Wild_Cobra/Misc/camera0001.jpg

As you can see, the detail is there. Not bad for a cheap camera that doesn't sync well to a raster.

Think of the detail you need to read a regular 8-1/2 x 11 sheet of paper. I can display two at 100% with room to spare. Now going to a 17" rather than my 24" just means I'm looking at the full sheets at about 75% size from lifelike.

We aren't happy with printer clarity unless we get 300 dots per inch (dpi). 120 dpi still gives legible printing. You can see the dots at 120 dpi, right? Well a 17" (16.2 viewable) 16:10 monitor at 1920 x 1200 would be about 140 dpi. Very clear, unless you are buying a cheaply made screen where the pixils overrun each other.

Nathan Explosion
08-16-2010, 12:42 AM
Well, if you sent a proper signal to it, there wouldn't be that "upgrade distortion," would there...

I'm not talking about distortion. Quite the opposite. You see, details gets lost because the print gets smaller. In order to see the detail, one must zoom. Kind of defeats the purpose. Not hard to figure out.

I think at this point you're missing the point of what I'm telling you. Sure you can fit everything on the screen. However, the print gets shrunken with the increase in pixels. I can have a window open that is full screen on my 1440x900 monitor. I won't touch anything, transfer to my TV and increase the resolution to full 1080p. All of a sudden, the full screen isn't full screen and when I do enlarge the window, the text looks smaller and there's extra space on the sides. That's because there's more pixels, right?

A perfect example is when I pull up a webpage on my iPhone 4. Because Apple crammed so many pixels into the screen, some pages display with print too small to read. It's not due to screen size, but the amount of pixels. You know this.

And unless you have super eyes, you're going to have to zoom in or strain your eyes working with the smaller print. You may not realize it at first, but it is happening.

MannyIsGod
08-16-2010, 01:44 AM
You just have poor eyes.

Wild Cobra
08-17-2010, 12:55 AM
I'm not talking about distortion. Quite the opposite. You see, details gets lost because the print gets smaller. In order to see the detail, one must zoom. Kind of defeats the purpose. Not hard to figure out.

But detail isn't lost.

Maybe you don't consciously see the pixels, but it makes the difference for telling the differences of 5 and S. O and 0, etc. etc.

On my 24.1" monitor, I can clearly see the checkerboard pattern of the pixel by pixel. I have the same clarity as a 18" 1440 x 900, because the pixels are the same size. On a 17" laptop, the pixils would just be a little smaller. 70.8% the size. I don't see that being a dramatic difference.

Just how large are the pixels on a 42" 1080P TV? Well, there are only 52 per inch.

Another aspect.

1920 x 1200 at 24" means about 94 pixels per inch. (WUXGA)

1920 x 1200 at 17" means about 133 pixels per inch. (WUXGA)

1440 x 900 at 17" means about 100 pixels per inch. (WXGA+)

1280 x 1024 at 15" means about 109 pixels per inch. (SXGA)

1024 x 768 at 15" means about 85 pixels per inch. (XGA)

1024 x 768 at 13" means about 98 pixels per inch. (XGA)

What are common laptop screen sizes anyway?

What sizes (actual) and at what resolution do you all have?

Now the above isn't perfect. I calculated these at the viewable being the full monitor size, which rarely occurs. However, my 24" monitor is 24.1". 20.5" x 12.8" Perfect for 100% sized 17 x 11, or two 8-1/2 x 11 side by side.

MannyIsGod
08-17-2010, 12:57 PM
But detail isn't lost.

Maybe you don't consciously see the pixels, but it makes the difference for telling the differences of 5 and S. O and 0, etc. etc.

On my 24.1" monitor, I can clearly see the checkerboard pattern of the pixel by pixel. I have the same clarity as a 18" 1440 x 900, because the pixels are the same size. On a 17" laptop, the pixils would just be a little smaller. 70.8% the size. I don't see that being a dramatic difference.

Just how large are the pixels on a 42" 1080P TV? Well, there are only 52 per inch.

Another aspect.

1920 x 1200 at 24" means about 94 pixels per inch. (WUXGA)

1920 x 1200 at 17" means about 133 pixels per inch. (WUXGA)

1440 x 900 at 17" means about 100 pixels per inch. (WXGA+)

1280 x 1024 at 15" means about 109 pixels per inch. (SXGA)

1024 x 768 at 15" means about 85 pixels per inch. (XGA)

1024 x 768 at 13" means about 98 pixels per inch. (XGA)

What are common laptop screen sizes anyway?

What sizes (actual) and at what resolution do you all have?

Now the above isn't perfect. I calculated these at the viewable being the full monitor size, which rarely occurs. However, my 24" monitor is 24.1". 20.5" x 12.8" Perfect for 100% sized 17 x 11, or two 8-1/2 x 11 side by side.

:lmao

The irony of this sentence coming from you in this context in this thread is so delicious.

Cry Havoc
08-17-2010, 01:14 PM
On a 17" laptop, the pixils would just be a little smaller. 70.8% the size. I don't see that being a dramatic difference.

So let's review:

Nearly 33% translates to "not a big difference" to you, but 1440x900 on a 15" laptop would be "unacceptable"?

Impressive. You only have super eyes when it involves resolutions that sound good to you.

MannyIsGod
08-17-2010, 03:13 PM
I swear he's a fucking idiot who warps what is acceptable so much. This is such blatant proof of that. Whats 1900x1200 reduced by 30%? Yeah, pretty much the resolution he's knocked in 2 threads now.

Fucking AMAZING.

koriwhat
08-17-2010, 05:23 PM
do yourself a favor and just buy a mac already... hahahahahaha!

BadOdor
08-17-2010, 05:51 PM
do yourself a favor and just buy a mac already... hahahahahaha!

Tbh thanks for confirming, now I know for sure I DONT want a mac.

calf tats.

koriwhat
08-17-2010, 10:52 PM
Tbh thanks for confirming, now I know for sure I DONT want a mac.

calf tats.

BadOdor, more like DumbFuck.

Ignignokt
08-17-2010, 11:06 PM
BadOdor, more like DumbFuck.

Ignignokt
08-17-2010, 11:06 PM
do yourself a favor and just buy a mac already... hahahahahaha!

Wild Cobra
08-18-2010, 12:01 AM
:lmao

The irony of this sentence coming from you in this context in this thread is so delicious.
I don't get your laughter, or is it ignorance?

MannyIsGod
08-18-2010, 12:55 AM
Thats ok. Everyone else reading gets it. :)

ChumpDumper
08-18-2010, 03:30 AM
Thats ok. Everyone else reading gets it. :)Not me. My resolution isn't good enough.

resistanze
08-18-2010, 09:56 AM
Not me. My resolution isn't good enough.

:lol

Cry Havoc
08-18-2010, 10:31 AM
Not me. My resolution isn't good enough.

:lmao

koriwhat
08-18-2010, 10:58 AM
you should get a macbook, the resolutions are out of this world!

CryBaby Cry! Boo Hoo!

Cry Havoc
08-18-2010, 11:39 AM
you should get a macbook, the resolutions are out of this world!

CryBaby Cry! Boo Hoo!

Can a $300 laptop run Diablo III? You still haven't answered this question. Since you accused me of having a lack of reading comprehension, I will continue to ask this question until you answer it, as per the needs and post by the OP.

koriwhat
08-18-2010, 11:50 AM
Can a $300 laptop run Diablo III? You still haven't answered this question. Since you accused me of having a lack of reading comprehension, I will continue to ask this question until you answer it, as per the needs and post by the OP.

do i give a fuck? nah. i hate diablo and the like... nerd games!

btw, people here at ST think i'm easily trolled... hahahaha! just mention mac, macbook, imac, apple, ipod, ipad, etc and CryBaby gets all up in arms.

should've got a mac "brah"!

Cry Havoc
08-18-2010, 12:38 PM
do i give a fuck? nah. i hate diablo and the like... nerd games!

Why post in a thread if you don't care? If it doesn't matter to you, why waste your time reading/posting?

By the way, thanks for admitting to everyone posting here that you do not have the intellect necessary to give any kind of advice. :tu. You're a talking head for Apple products without any rational thought or purpose behind it. "Do I care what they asked for? No, I've long since stopped using my brain to find out the best product to buy, and I just sheepishly go to the store to pick out whatever Mr. Steve Jesus Jobs tells me to."

BTW, every time you mention how "not butt hurt" you are, you reinforce just how you can't let the calf tats situation go.

:lol at calling someone on a sports forum a nerd though, considering your posting history here.

koriwhat
08-18-2010, 01:13 PM
You're a talking head for Apple products without any rational thought or purpose behind it. "Do I care what they asked for? No, I've long since stopped using my brain to find out the best product to buy, and I just sheepishly go to the store to pick out whatever Mr. Steve Jesus Jobs tells me to."

yeah because i own a whopping 1 product from that company. hahaha! you come on here and suck the dick of bill gates until there ain't a drop left in the tank and you claim i'm some sort of "talking head" for apple, unfuckingbelievable!

i suggested a $300 laptop because my boss bought one and it seemed like it could handle quite a few tasks but as far as video goes, i don't know. i didn't install or play any games on the machine. thing is, that laptop seemed reasonable and is in the price range of the pos poster BO.

CryBaby Cry!

Cry Havoc
08-18-2010, 01:16 PM
i don't know.

Everyone on SpursTalk is very aware of this. But thanks for admitting it.

koriwhat
08-18-2010, 01:16 PM
:lol at calling someone on a sports forum a nerd though, considering your posting history here.

yeah maybe we're all a little nerdy here at ST. i should've said you're a hipster fag or whatever trend is going on in this world right now. you do fit the bill. too each their own though i suppose.

btw, what does my posting history have anything to do with calling that diablo shit a nerd game?

koriwhat
08-18-2010, 01:18 PM
my bad... i own 2 products from apple. sorry!

my imac and my spurs ipod(wouldn't had bought it from my boss had it not had a spur engraved on it).

Wild Cobra
08-18-2010, 02:08 PM
Thats ok. Everyone else reading gets it. :)
Saying that it's not a dramatic difference?

just what are you saying?

MannyIsGod
08-18-2010, 03:01 PM
Everyone else knows what I'm saying. Maybe one of them can explain it to you.

Wild Cobra
08-19-2010, 05:03 PM
Everyone else knows what I'm saying. Maybe one of them can explain it to you.
Don't bother.

It's obvious you fantasized that you owned me. Figured out you were wrong, so now you won't admit shit.

Cry Havoc
08-19-2010, 05:10 PM
Don't bother.

It's obvious you fantasized that you owned me. Figured out you were wrong, so now you won't admit shit.

This coming from the man who has never been wrong in the history of spurstalk. :lmao

Wild Cobra
08-19-2010, 05:17 PM
This coming from the man who has never been wrong in the history of spurstalk. :lmao
I've been wrong several time.

Your point?

MannyIsGod
08-19-2010, 05:49 PM
Don't bother.

It's obvious you fantasized that you owned me. Figured out you were wrong, so now you won't admit shit.

How would I bother? I told you to ask other people and you tell me not to bother? Are you a moron (Rhetorical - I already know the answer)?

I didn't own you. Your own inconsistencies owned you. Everyone else can see it. Its not my fault you can't.

Cry Havoc
08-19-2010, 05:56 PM
I've been wrong several time.

Your point?

My point is that you never admit it. Everyone else knows you're wrong; you dont need to let us know when it's already so obvious.


How would I bother? I told you to ask other people and you tell me not to bother? Are you a moron (Rhetorical - I already know the answer)?

I didn't own you. Your own inconsistencies owned you. Everyone else can see it. Its not my fault you can't.

Yep. 30% is not significant or noticeable, but only when WC defines exactly when that is... :lol

ChumpDumper
08-19-2010, 06:34 PM
Could someone send a PM and tell me what's going on?

Use large fonts; I'm only running 1280x800 on this laptop.

BadOdor
08-19-2010, 10:24 PM
Could someone send a PM and tell me what's going on?

Use large fonts; I'm only running 1280x800 on this laptop.

Just WC trying to one up Zosa and calf tats as the shittiest poster in the thread

LnGrrrR
08-19-2010, 10:50 PM
I got a Sony Vaio for $700... I love tax-free shopping at the Navy Exchange here. Woot.

koriwhat
08-20-2010, 11:37 PM
Just WC trying to one up Zosa and calf tats as the shittiest poster in the thread

you've been the shittiest and lamest of all posters for a long ass time now. no fuckin' doubt about it!

Wild Cobra
08-21-2010, 01:23 AM
How would I bother? I told you to ask other people and you tell me not to bother? Are you a moron (Rhetorical - I already know the answer)?

I didn't own you. Your own inconsistencies owned you. Everyone else can see it. Its not my fault you can't.
I disagree, but agree you are an idiot.

1200P rocks.

Wild Cobra
08-21-2010, 01:23 AM
My point is that you never admit it. Everyone else knows you're wrong; you dont need to let us know when it's already so obvious.
Sure I have.

Wild Cobra
08-21-2010, 01:25 AM
Just WC trying to one up Zosa and calf tats as the shittiest poster in the thread
Wow...

Just because I respect a true 1200 pixels in height, I get all this crap?

Not my fault everyone else is ignorant to resolution.

Wild Cobra
08-21-2010, 01:26 AM
you've been the shittiest and lamest of all posters for a long ass time now. no fuckin' doubt about it!
I think they are jealous that I have a 1200P monitor. Have an opinion by chance?

Cry Havoc
08-21-2010, 01:49 AM
I think they are jealous that I have a 1200P monitor. Have an opinion by chance?


I have a 17" Dell laptop. What's the resolution? 1920x1200.

Totally jealous. :lmao

MannyIsGod
08-21-2010, 10:27 AM
:lmao

My desktop which goes unused has a 22 inch monitor with better than 1200p but yeah, I'm jealous too.

Hank the Tank
08-21-2010, 12:56 PM
Since this seems like the thread to post in, is this a decent all around laptop? I know Dell is sometimes harshly criticized, so I'm just looking for advice.

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=dndor21&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19

Cry Havoc
08-21-2010, 01:04 PM
Since this seems like the thread to post in, is this a decent all around laptop? I know Dell is sometimes harshly criticized, so I'm just looking for advice.

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=dndor21&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19

It always depends on what you want it for.

Hank the Tank
08-21-2010, 01:14 PM
It always depends on what you want it for.

School, gaming (prefer it to at least run most games at medium settings), and just surfing the net. Nothing too extensive.

ChumpDumper
08-21-2010, 01:53 PM
School, gaming (prefer it to at least run most games at medium settings), and just surfing the net. Nothing too extensive.Spring for the ATI video card if you want to do any gaming.

Cry Havoc
08-21-2010, 01:57 PM
School, gaming (prefer it to at least run most games at medium settings), and just surfing the net. Nothing too extensive.

I recommend checking back through the thread. Integrated video cards are unacceptable for gaming.

Wild Cobra
08-21-2010, 10:52 PM
:lmao

My desktop which goes unused has a 22 inch monitor with better than 1200p but yeah, I'm jealous too.
What resolution you have?

Wild Cobra
08-21-2010, 10:59 PM
I still don't get why you people think a 17" laptop at 1920 x 1200 is a waste of resolution. I get pegged as having super eyes, when I see nothing abnormal. I guess the reason the same ones of you are so unethical, is because you are incapable of reading the the Bible The words are too small. Too much resolution placed on a piece of paper for you to read. At around 80 lines per page and a page height of only 8"... That's about right for 1200 pixels high. A 17" wide-screen would be about 9-1/2" high.

ChumpDumper
08-21-2010, 11:13 PM
I guess the reason the same ones of you are so unethical, is because you are incapable of reading the the Bible:rollin

MannyIsGod
08-22-2010, 12:15 AM
:lmao

Cry Havoc
08-22-2010, 01:14 AM
I still don't get why you people think a 17" laptop at 1920 x 1200 is a waste of resolution. I get pegged as having super eyes, when I see nothing abnormal. I guess the reason the same ones of you are so unethical, is because you are incapable of reading the the Bible The words are too small. Too much resolution placed on a piece of paper for you to read. At around 80 lines per page and a page height of only 8"... That's about right for 1200 pixels high. A 17" wide-screen would be about 9-1/2" high.

Worst. Strawman. Ever.

BadOdor
08-22-2010, 09:36 AM
So far so good. The speed is amazing compared to my old laptop, I don't have to wait 5 minutes for windows to load no more, and after getting used to win7, it's pretty cool.

Only problem I've had so far is to wake up and find out that the laptop went into hibernation mode, and won't start whenever I tried to turn it on. Solved it by taking out the power cord and it started fine, but I'll be keeping watch just in case this problem reappears.

BadOdor
08-22-2010, 09:36 AM
I still don't get why you people think a 17" laptop at 1920 x 1200 is a waste of resolution. I get pegged as having super eyes, when I see nothing abnormal. I guess the reason the same ones of you are so unethical, is because you are incapable of reading the the Bible The words are too small. Too much resolution placed on a piece of paper for you to read. At around 80 lines per page and a page height of only 8"... That's about right for 1200 pixels high. A 17" wide-screen would be about 9-1/2" high.

Why don't you trust black surgeons?

Goran Dragic
08-22-2010, 09:45 AM
lol getting in a resolution dick measuring contest
lol claiming not to be racist but not trusting black surgeons

Wild Cobra
08-22-2010, 10:16 PM
Worst. Strawman. Ever.
Why?

You guys are saying that 1920 x 1200 is a waste of resolution for a 17" screen. If you are incapable of reading that, then how can I expect you to read the Bible, or even a paperback for that matter?

If you can read a paperback, then you can appreciate that resolution on a laptop.

Wild Cobra
08-22-2010, 10:18 PM
lol getting in a resolution dick measuring contest
lol claiming not to be racist but not trusting black surgeons
Do you know the difference between prejudice and racism?

Apparently not.

MannyIsGod
08-22-2010, 10:22 PM
My god you are an idiot.

Wild Cobra
08-22-2010, 10:24 PM
My god you are an idiot.
Care to elaborate?

How about starting a "Wild Cobra is an Idiot" thread in politics. We'll see just who the idiot is.

MannyIsGod
08-22-2010, 10:29 PM
How about we look at the amount of people mocking your idiocy in this thread?

Wild Cobra
08-22-2010, 10:50 PM
How about we look at the amount of people mocking your idiocy in this thread?
Consensus is not fact.

Cry Havoc
08-22-2010, 11:13 PM
How about starting a "Wild Cobra is an Idiot" thread in politics. We'll see just who the idiot is.


Consensus is not fact.

:wow


:downspin:

MannyIsGod
08-22-2010, 11:24 PM
You can't make this shit up.

CuckingFunt
08-22-2010, 11:29 PM
Do you know the difference between prejudice and racism?

Apparently not.

Please, someone, respond to this. I would love to see his justification for why one of these things is acceptable.

Wild Cobra
08-23-2010, 12:46 AM
Please, someone, respond to this. I would love to see his justification for why one of these things is acceptable.
We are prejudiced in life everyday. Some things more than others. Some deal with prejudging people, and not always by race, but by how they carry themselves, the cloths they wear, etc.

Racism is the belief of superiority of one race over another.

We all know first impressions are not always right, but it is a form of prejudice. Am I right or wrong.

CuckingFunt
08-23-2010, 09:04 AM
We are prejudiced in life everyday. Some things more than others. Some deal with prejudging people, and not always by race, but by how they carry themselves, the cloths they wear, etc.

Racism is the belief of superiority of one race over another.

We all know first impressions are not always right, but it is a form of prejudice. Am I right or wrong.

If you are prejudiced to believe that white doctors are better than black doctors, wouldn't that be, according to your own definition, a racist belief?

Cry Havoc
08-23-2010, 10:14 AM
If you are prejudiced to believe that white doctors are better than black doctors, wouldn't that be, according to your own definition, a racist belief?

Not if he doesn't know or talk to any black people. Then it remains prejudice. :lmao :lol :lmao

Wild Cobra
08-23-2010, 11:14 PM
If you are prejudiced to believe that white doctors are better than black doctors, wouldn't that be, according to your own definition, a racist belief?
Not at all, and I'm not saying a white doctor is better. Never have.

Wild Cobra
08-24-2010, 12:11 AM
back on topic...

Not that hard to find. I have a 1920x1200 (16:10 aspect, 27") and bought it at Costco about a year ago.

That said, I thought this was a laptop thread...
Yes, this started when I said I would buy a laptop when I could find one under a $1000 that had 1920 x 1200 resolution.

I'm amazed at how many people think it's a 1080P, enhanced somehow. Less amazed that some think it's a waste of money, but completely stunned that nobody seems to understand the practicality for some applications. Like when I bought my new computer. It was pointed out I could have bought more for the same money, but I'm happy with my choice. Super clean design, tool-less parts exchange, large Barracuda drive, no free stupid programs installed, etc. It's a professional series computer, not a poor quality cut rate computer that likely has extra wait-states to access the memory.

Anyway...

What do you think of wanting the 1920 x 1200 resolution on a 17" laptop?

ElNono
08-24-2010, 12:31 AM
back on topic...

Mindless drivel removed for brevity

Anyway...

What do you think of wanting the 1920 x 1200 resolution on a 17" laptop?

I'm just not very fond of laptops in general. Whenever I'm on the road I just normally VNC into the office if I need to do something and basically there I have a dual 20" monitor setup at 1680x1050 each so it's either going to scale or scroll.

I would certainly love that kind of res on my iPad though. I do most of my reading/browsing there these days (like this post).

Wild Cobra
08-24-2010, 12:53 AM
I'm just not very fond of laptops in general. Whenever I'm on the road I just normally VNC into the office if I need to do something and basically there I have a dual 20" monitor setup at 1680x1050 each so it's either going to scale or scroll.

I would certainly love that kind of res on my iPad though. I do most of my reading/browsing there these days (like this post).
I have little need for a laptop myself. The rare times I travel for work, I just deal with the inconvenience of not having my computer. I am so accustomed to high resolution, I don't want to do with less. I have a hard enough time dealing with the work monitors, at 1280 x 1024. just cannot do much on the screen at a time, and forget the equipment schematics. Have to print them to see them clearly. We have an older tube type at one work station, at 1600 x 1200, but I see the flicker, and it bothers me. I recently gave away two tube monitors at that resolution since I bought my 24" flat screen.

Nathan Explosion
08-24-2010, 06:06 AM
Why?

You guys are saying that 1920 x 1200 is a waste of resolution for a 17" screen. If you are incapable of reading that, then how can I expect you to read the Bible, or even a paperback for that matter?

If you can read a paperback, then you can appreciate that resolution on a laptop.

They sell the bible in different sizes. I had 3 for a class I was taking. Also, why read a paperback when you have Kindle of iBooks on the iPad? Or better yet, Audible.com so you can listen to the books while you're on the go? I have so many books I want to read but don't have the time between work and being a single dad with two kids under 5.

Audible would be great to listen to while in the car or at work in the mornings (I go in at 4 am). If the price is right, I might go that route.

Oh, and in case you haven't figured it out by now, I've just been trolling for fun. I really don't give a shit if you have super eyes or not.

:downspin:

resistanze
08-24-2010, 08:51 AM
Not at all, and I'm not saying a white doctor is better. Never have.

Is it because you fear that a black doctor will secretly prescribe you horse painkillers, out of his hatred for the white man?

ChumpDumper
08-24-2010, 12:32 PM
Not at all, and I'm not saying a white doctor is better. Never have.Right. He just said that a black doctor is worse.

Totally different

Cry Havoc
08-24-2010, 01:17 PM
Right. He just said that a black doctor is worse.

Totally different

Link to this? I'd love to read it.

ChumpDumper
08-24-2010, 01:42 PM
Link to this? I'd love to read it.You could probably just search for posts by WC with the words "black" and "surgeon" in them.

Cry Havoc
08-24-2010, 01:58 PM
You could probably just search for posts by WC with the words "black" and "surgeon" in them.

:wow

....

I'm utterly speechless.

WC, if you're still reading this thread, I've always (mostly) respected you, because unlike most people you at least make an attempt to show your rationale for why you think certain things, and perhaps I just always attributed your never ending arguments to enjoying playing the devil's advocate, and the juxtaposition of points more so than the actual meanings behind statements.

But wow. You're a completely racist asshole, and a moron to boot. This isn't to say that you lack intelligence, because you've obviously shown more than your fair share of it here on ST from time to time. That doesn't make up for the sheer lunacy you display, however.

I know you couldn't care less considering it's a message board, but your world view actively marginalizes other people. You make this world less of a good place to live in. I hope someday you realize that and it causes you no small amount of shame.

Nathan Explosion
08-24-2010, 03:49 PM
Right. He just said that a black doctor is worse.

Totally different

Well it's true. How many times has Dr. House had to bail out Dr. Foreman's ass because Foreman couldn't get the right diagnosis?

Hell, Omar Epps wasn't even the best Eric Foreman on Fox for all those years.

Wild Cobra
08-24-2010, 04:55 PM
Link to this? I'd love to read it.
No shit.

So would I.

How about someone starting a new thread instead of us continuing to pollute this one.

Wild Cobra
08-24-2010, 04:59 PM
:wow

....

I'm utterly speechless.

WC, if you're still reading this thread, I've always (mostly) respected you, because unlike most people you at least make an attempt to show your rationale for why you think certain things, and perhaps I just always attributed your never ending arguments to enjoying playing the devil's advocate, and the juxtaposition of points more so than the actual meanings behind statements.

But wow. You're a completely racist asshole, and a moron to boot. This isn't to say that you lack intelligence, because you've obviously shown more than your fair share of it here on ST from time to time. That doesn't make up for the sheer lunacy you display, however.

I know you couldn't care less considering it's a message board, but your world view actively marginalizes other people. You make this world less of a good place to live in. I hope someday you realize that and it causes you no small amount of shame.
Key point.

I never said they were worse or bad, and I was referring to the damages of affirmative action, that people don't know if they have a position because of quota or skill.

Wild Cobra
08-24-2010, 05:17 PM
I will no longer post off topic here. For the Black Surgeon comment, go to post #59 of here:

OH NOES.....Did Obamessiah say what I think he said. (http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103168)

Reply in that thread as well. Not here.

MannyIsGod
08-24-2010, 05:23 PM
Racism + Super Eyes = ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Cry Havoc
08-24-2010, 06:07 PM
No shit.

So would I.

How about someone starting a new thread instead of us continuing to pollute this one.

Why? Would that be somewhat similar to hijacking a thread to make a point that has absolutely no bearing on the OPs initial request in order to state how idiosyncratic your own computer needs are while simultaneously condescending to people who disagree with you about a completely subjective belief?

Like that?

Wild Cobra
08-24-2010, 10:20 PM
Why? Would that be somewhat similar to hijacking a thread to make a point that has absolutely no bearing on the OPs initial request in order to state how idiosyncratic your own computer needs are while simultaneously condescending to people who disagree with you about a completely subjective belief?

Like that?
The resolution issue at least deals with laptops as well. I started by saying I would buy a laptop when I could get 1920 x 1200 resolution for under $1000, and end up defending myself.


So let's review:

Nearly 33% translates to "not a big difference" to you, but 1440x900 on a 15" laptop would be "unacceptable"?

Impressive. You only have super eyes when it involves resolutions that sound good to you.
Are you missing the point, or purposely twisting what I say?

The physical 33% doesn't matter as long as the pixel count is the same. Sure, there is a practical limit, but going from 24" to 17" with the same resolution doesn't cross that line.

I need the pixel count. 1440 x 900 is unacceptable to me at any size. It will not clearly show the detail of a 17" x 11" document with schematics and wiring diagrams. My 24" will display it at 100% size, with room to spare.

A 17" monitor at 1920 x 1200 would simply have smaller pixels, retaining all the detail. My image would no longer be 100% to display the whole page, but the whole page can be read. A 17" x 11" document would simply appear at 12" x 7.8", but retain all it's detail. Try putting a full image of a 17" x 11" PDF file on any size 1440 x 900 monitor and see what you get. Even a 1920 x 1080 monitor. It just isn't as legible with less pixels.

An 17" x 11" document requires 1632 x 1034 pixels at 96 dpi. You can get this on a 1080p, but not inside an Acrobat reader window, because it uses part of the screen all the way around the document, looks like 99 pixels when I look at it in paint. Therefore, I lose resolution with any monitor less than 1143 pixels high. If we use a 1080 monitor, we have 981 usable pixels high after the Acrobat Reader borders. Only 801 pixels for a 900 pixel high monitor. resolution is lost more and more as the pixel count gets smaller.

I looked at you Alienware specs. You have an 11.6" screen, 768 high. If my assumptions and math are correct, your screen is 10.1" x 5.7". To get 1366 x 768, you have 135 dpi. For a 17" screen at 14.4" x 9" to have 1920 x 1200, it would have 133 dpi. Seems like i am asking for fractionally less resolution than you have in the terms of dpi.

I'll bet that Alienware has sweet graphics! You see, I had already considered buying the Alienware 17x (http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/alienware-m17x-gaming-laptop/4505-3121_7-33668189.html#reviewPage1) a few months ago, but don't need a laptop bad enough to spend that type on money.


The 17.1-inch wide-screen LCD display offers a 1,920x1,200 native resolution, which is what we'd expect from a high-end 17-inch laptop (less expensive desktop replacements can have 1,440x900 displays). The screen looks crisp and bright, and the edge-to-edge glass overlay adds a seamless feel, but it is subject to glare from light sources. We also wouldn't mind seeing Alienware embrace the trend toward 16:9 displays.

Blake
08-24-2010, 11:12 PM
How about starting a "Wild Cobra is an Idiot" thread in politics. We'll see just who the idiot is.

How about putting a KICK ME sign on your back too. We'll just see who really gets kicked.

This thread keeps you still at a distant 5th, but the gap has closed considerably between you and the 4 ahead of you:

Koriwhat, butthurt UTSA crew, allanon and Spursfan90210.

MannyIsGod
08-24-2010, 11:14 PM
WC works with documents where the details are individual pixels wide which is why they look SO MUCH WORSE when you lose a bit of resolution.

Blake
08-24-2010, 11:17 PM
Key point.

I never said they were worse or bad, and I was referring to the damages of affirmative action, that people don't know if they have a position because of quota or skill.


most smart people avoid black surgeons.

holy crap.

MannyIsGod
08-24-2010, 11:23 PM
Yeah, any wonder why this guy, CC, and SnC stick together like peas in a pod? CC would love to tell you about all his brown friends ERRRR EMPLOYEES as proof he's not a bigot too.

BadOdor
08-25-2010, 04:56 AM
How about putting a KICK ME sign on your back too. We'll just see who really gets kicked.

This thread keeps you still at a distant 5th, but the gap has closed considerably between you and the 4 ahead of you:

Koriwhat, butthurt UTSA crew, allanon and Spursfan90210.

Tbh Zosa needs to be included somewhere in the top 10, he did follow me into this thread after getting really butthurt over me trolling his creationist ass in the club.

Also it needs to be pointed out calf tats is waaaaaaay ahead over everyone else.

TinTin
08-25-2010, 08:47 AM
This should be in the classic :toast

Blake
08-25-2010, 08:56 AM
Tbh Zosa needs to be included somewhere in the top 10, he did follow me into this thread after getting really butthurt over me trolling his creationist ass in the club.

Also it needs to be pointed out calf tats is waaaaaaay ahead over everyone else.

yeah I forgot snc and definitely zosa.

If you want to see some serious butthurt, check out a thread zosa started about finding roach parts in his apartment. I may go back and read that one today again for fun.

Trainwreck2100
08-25-2010, 09:14 AM
i just want to know how the search for the laptop went

Nathan Explosion
08-25-2010, 09:39 AM
i just want to know how the search for the laptop went

What laptop? :p:

Cry Havoc
08-25-2010, 09:44 AM
i just want to know how the search for the laptop went

Pretty sure the OP picked one up a week ago or so.

Poirot
08-28-2010, 12:56 AM
How portable do you want it to be?

I just bought the Alienware M11x. It will run Diablo really well when it comes out, although it's a tiny laptop (11" screen, 4.5 pounds). But it has an HDMI out if you want to game on a TV or larger monitor, and you can find the laptop on slickdeals sometimes for around $700. Totally worth it IMO, this laptop is great.

Other than that, I think Asus makes a well priced mid-range laptop with a decent GPU for around $700.

I'd consider returning the M11x if I were you (I have the original core2duo model). Great laptop, with the crappiest hinges on the market. They're guaranteed to loosen and crack after a few months. I've seen this problem on my co-worker's M11x, as well as the in-store model at our local Best Buy. Had to send mine to Dell last week for repairs.

Poirot
08-28-2010, 01:33 AM
Also, regarding screen resolutions, most professionals prefer 1920x1200 vs. 1080p. Gives you extra screen estate.


Who wants a 1200p portable computer? Good luck telling the difference on a 15 inch screen.You can definitely tell the difference. I could tell the difference between 1600x900 and 1920x1080 on a 13 inch screen, and I don't have perfect eyesight.


It really has nothing to do with eyes. You just fell for a marketing gimmick which disguises the fact that a 1200 is just a 1080 worked around. That 1080 and 1200 won't make a difference as manny said even if you can see "small details".
Just the opposite, really. 16:10 used to be the standard widescreen ratio
for laptops and monitors. The only reason that 1080p is prevalent today is because it's cheaper to produce, and it's an easy marketing gimmick. You'll find that most business laptops still use 16:10 panels. I personally think the extra screen estate is invaluable.

Wild Cobra
08-28-2010, 11:05 PM
Just the opposite, really. 16:10 used to be the standard widescreen ratio
for laptops and monitors. The only reason that 1080p is prevalent today is because it's cheaper to produce, and it's an easy marketing gimmick. You'll find that most business laptops still use 16:10 panels. I personally think the extra screen estate is invaluable.
Absolutely.

However, these people will do all they can to disagree with me. I think they're jealous.

ChumpDumper
08-28-2010, 11:12 PM
I think they're jealous.I don't think there are enough lolcat pictures in the world to convey my feelings about this statement.

BadOdor
08-29-2010, 04:34 AM
Absolutely.

However, these people will do all they can to disagree with me. I think they're jealous.

Serious question here: Is it just black surgeons you don't trust, or would you similarly distrust other minorities, such as Mexicans/Hispanics?

Would you specifically ask for a white doctor?

Wild Cobra
08-29-2010, 06:14 PM
Serious question here: Is it just black surgeons you don't trust, or would you similarly distrust other minorities, such as Mexicans/Hispanics?

Would you specifically ask for a white doctor?

I will no longer post off topic here. For the Black Surgeon comment, go to post #59 of here:

OH NOES.....Did Obamessiah say what I think he said. (http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103168)

Reply in that thread as well. Not here.

Cry Havoc
08-29-2010, 07:14 PM
I'd consider returning the M11x if I were you (I have the original core2duo model). Great laptop, with the crappiest hinges on the market. They're guaranteed to loosen and crack after a few months. I've seen this problem on my co-worker's M11x, as well as the in-store model at our local Best Buy. Had to send mine to Dell last week for repairs.

I got an extended warranty on it. I've heard about the hinges. There just isn't anything else in the market like it right now, so I think I am going to keep it.

Wild Cobra
08-31-2010, 11:33 PM
I got an extended warranty on it. I've heard about the hinges. There just isn't anything else in the market like it right now, so I think I am going to keep it.
I like the specs of the Alienware, but the case is crap. Isn't it. Maybe we can petition Dell to make changes?

Cry Havoc
09-01-2010, 12:51 AM
I like the specs of the Alienware, but the case is crap. Isn't it. Maybe we can petition Dell to make changes?

Haven't had any problems so far. And I got a warranty on it.

Wild Cobra
09-01-2010, 01:12 AM
Haven't had any problems so far. And I got a warranty on it.
So do you have "super eyes" to see those pixels at 135 dpi?

Cry Havoc
09-01-2010, 09:46 AM
So do you have "super eyes" to see those pixels at 135 dpi?

I have a 17" laptop @ 1920x1200

I have an 11" laptop @ 1366x768

and a desktop 22" display @1650x1080.

Of the 3 displays, I by far prefer the desktop. The expanse of a 22 inch monitor, as well as the quality of the visuals, are simply better on it than anything else I've used before. It's nearly on par with my Panasonic plasma TV.

Pixel density is not the only indicator of the quality of a monitor.

Wild Cobra
09-01-2010, 08:20 PM
I have a 17" laptop @ 1920x1200

I have an 11" laptop @ 1366x768

and a desktop 22" display @1650x1080.

Of the 3 displays, I by far prefer the desktop. The expanse of a 22 inch monitor, as well as the quality of the visuals, are simply better on it than anything else I've used before. It's nearly on par with my Panasonic plasma TV.

Pixel density is not the only indicator of the quality of a monitor.
Very true. I was just playing with the "super eyes" theme that people want to tag me with for wanting a 17" laptop at 133 dpi, when yours is 135 dpi.

I prefer my 24.1" 1920 x 1200 over a 17" of the same resolution, but would you say that your 17" is a waste of resolution?