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Kobe Molested Me
08-18-2010, 12:26 PM
Should the Denver Nuggets elect to trade Carmelo Anthony, the New York Knicks are believed to be the All-Star forward's first choice for a new home. But they are not his only option.

Multiple league sources familiar with his situation told SI.com that Anthony would also be open to signing a long-term deal with Houston or New Jersey should either of those teams offer the Nuggets an acceptable trade package.
Getting Anthony, 26, to agree to an extension is the key to any deal as he can become a free agent after the 2010-11 season. Denver has offered Anthony a three-year, $65 million extension, but he has balked at signing it and is reportedly looking for a way out. Because acquiring Anthony would require a substantial offer, it is highly unlikely any team would risk making a trade without having Anthony agree to a simultaneous extension.

While resolving Anthony's situation is a priority in Denver, there is no urgency to make a deal quickly. The Denver Post reported in June that the Nuggets were prepared to trade Anthony rather than watch him opt out of his contract next summer. However, the Nuggets are without a general manager after they let go of top basketball executives Mark Warkentien and Rex Chapman.

Former Suns executive David Griffin is believed to be the top candidate to run the basketball operations, but a league source said the Nuggets were still interviewing candidates.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/basketball/nba/08/18/carmelo.trade.interest/index.html?xid=si_nba#ixzz0x4dzU141

redzero
08-18-2010, 12:31 PM
:wow

The Rockets already have Chris Bosh and Yao Ming. That would be a godly big three.

Kobe Molested Me
08-18-2010, 12:33 PM
:wow

The Rockets already have Chris Bosh and Yao Ming. That would be a godly big three.

Don't forget about Joe Johnson.

PM5K
08-18-2010, 12:48 PM
??

TD 21
08-18-2010, 01:11 PM
The Nuggets would be stupid to accept just Gallinari, Curry and a '14 1st. They've got to at least get Chandler thrown in and dump Balkman's salary in the process.

Even then, I'm not crazy about that trade. We're talking about a top eight player entering his prime here. They've got to get back at least one blue chip prospect and despite the big stink about Gallinari, I think he falls just short of qualifying as a blue chip prospect.

The Rockets are better positioned to make a trade for Anthony than the Knicks. If he ends up on the Rockets, they could conceivably vault into legit contender status.

They've been hoarding assets waiting for a star of this magnitude to come onto the market. I've got to believe they'll pull out all the stops to acquire him. They could offer Battier and Jeffries expiring contracts, plus some combination of Patterson, Budinger, Hill, myriad future 1sts, the rights to Lull, etc. Or, if they're determined to keep Battier out of the package, they could offer Martin, which would give the Nuggets a go to scorer in return, though they'd obviously need an SF more than an SG. However, that would free them up to move Smith for a competent SF.

The Nets, I'm not sure there's a deal that makes sense. The Nuggets have no need for Harris, Outlaw is about to begin an expensive deal. In other packages, they could get similar and in some cases better SF's, who are making significantly less. Short of offering Favors in addition to Murphy's expiring contract, the best they could probably do is Murphy, Williams and a future 1st.

Basketballgirl25
08-18-2010, 01:11 PM
please god no, I hope the Nets don't do something stupid and try to trade for Melo, that would suck, Melo along with all his other buddies Paul, Lebron, Wade, and Bosh are ruining the name this summer, I don't want any of them. We should all just save ourselves and watch FOOTBALL

Basketballgirl25
08-18-2010, 01:21 PM
The Nets, I'm not sure there's a deal that makes sense. The Nuggets have no need for Harris, Outlaw is about to begin an expensive deal. In other packages, they could get similar and in some cases better SF's, who are making significantly less. Short of offering Favors in addition to Murphy's expiring contract, the best they could probably do is Murphy, Williams and a future 1st.

I agree about this, although I think the Nets have more to offer then the Knicks do:toast

TD 21
08-18-2010, 01:49 PM
I agree about this, although I think the Nets have more to offer then the Knicks do:toast

They do, if they offer Favors. The Knicks are limited draft pick wise and don't have a prospect the caliber of Favors. But I'm skeptical the Nets would offer Favors.

It would depend on how quickly and how good the Nets became with Anthony, which is somewhat difficult to predict. Because of that, I can't judge the quality of the picks, so I couldn't say definitively if Murphy, Williams and two future 1sts is better than Gallinari, Curry, Chandler, a future 1st and taking Balkman's salary off the Nuggets hands. Of course, the former I made up and the latter I'm basing off a rumor and adding parts to, but I think those are realistic offers.

4>0rings
08-18-2010, 01:57 PM
Leaving the Nuggets for Nets or Rockets?? :lmao

Indazone
08-18-2010, 02:10 PM
oh heck yeah, get it done Morey. Just don't touch Scola/Yao/Brooks/Martin.

Quit Hatin'
08-18-2010, 02:12 PM
^so who do you give up?


Quit Hatin'

Indazone
08-18-2010, 02:14 PM
Battier and Lowry? :lol

I know wishful thinking...

Indazone
08-18-2010, 02:16 PM
In a perfect world it would be Lee or Lowry and the six million trade exception and maybe use a future Knicks pick.

Quit Hatin'
08-18-2010, 02:17 PM
and two first rounders


Quit Hatin'

Kobe Molested Me
08-18-2010, 02:18 PM
The only realistic trade proposal that Denver would even consider would be....

Denver Receives:

Shane Battier
Kevin Martin
Jordan Hill
Jermaine Taylor
NY Picks

Houston Receives:

Carmelo Anthony
Aaron Afflalo

Denver gets a top 5 SG in Martin, defensive specialist, veteran, and expiring contract in Battier, nice young pieces for the future in Hill and Taylor, and very lucrative draft picks for the future. Benefits both teams.

HarlemHeat37
08-18-2010, 02:23 PM
The only realistic trade proposal that Denver would even consider would be....

Denver Receives:

Shane Battier
Kevin Martin
Jordan Hill
Jermaine Taylor
NY Picks

Houston Receives:

Carmelo Anthony
Aaron Afflalo

Denver gets a top 5 SG in Martin, defensive specialist, veteran, and expiring contract in Battier, nice young pieces for the future in Hill and Taylor, and very lucrative draft picks for the future. Benefits both teams.

:(

Quit Hatin'
08-18-2010, 02:29 PM
realistically yao ming/kevin martin/ fillers/ picks for anthony

then after anthony is there chris paul wants to come too so aaron brooks/scola/picks for chris paul. That leaves the rockets with 2 great players and nothing else.

redzero
08-18-2010, 02:35 PM
realistically yao ming/kevin martin/ fillers/ picks for anthony

then after anthony is there chris paul wants to come too so aaron brooks/scola/picks for chris paul. That leaves the rockets with 2 great players and nothing else.

Which would be stupid and unrealistic.

Quit Hatin'
08-18-2010, 02:37 PM
Which would be stupid and unrealistic.

as a hornets fan wouldn't you want scola and brooks for free if you knew chris paul was gonna leave after this season?

redzero
08-18-2010, 02:39 PM
as a hornets fan wouldn't you want scola and brooks for free if you knew chris paul was gonna leave after this season?

No. Actually, I would be more surprised that Chris Paul was able to leave with one year still left on his contract.

picc84
08-18-2010, 02:42 PM
I don't see the Rockets ever having another star player again, ever.

TD 21
08-18-2010, 02:45 PM
The only realistic trade proposal that Denver would even consider would be....

Denver Receives:

Shane Battier
Kevin Martin
Jordan Hill
Jermaine Taylor
NY Picks

Houston Receives:

Carmelo Anthony
Aaron Afflalo

Denver gets a top 5 SG in Martin, defensive specialist, veteran, and expiring contract in Battier, nice young pieces for the future in Hill and Taylor, and very lucrative draft picks for the future. Benefits both teams.

No chance Martin is better than Wade, Bryant, Ginobili, Roy or Johnson.

That's a realistic trade though. We know how much the Rockets value Battier, but I can't imagine he'd be a deal breaker, particularly with them getting back Affflalo, who can play the same role. Also, it allows them to hold onto Patterson and Budinger, the two young, inexpensive assets they'd most likely most want to keep. This could vault them into title contention.

For the Nuggets, Hill is a decent young asset and he'd add front court depth to the Nuggets, who could use that. Martin takes Anthony's role and Battier takes Afflalo's. Taylor could become an inexpensive backup for Martin, which would allow them to rid themselves of the erratic Smith. This could keep them in contention for a lower playoff spot and make them a decent team going forward.

Seem like a match all the way around. So much so that I'd be surprised if the Rockets don't get this done.

Indazone
08-18-2010, 02:52 PM
Yeah, they might have to give up Martin to get this deal done. I'd do it. That does seem like a realistic trade.

elemento
08-18-2010, 03:16 PM
top5 SG in Martin? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Those Rockets homers are hella funny

elemento
08-18-2010, 03:17 PM
top5 SG in Martin? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Those Rockets homers are hella funny

Ashy Larry
08-18-2010, 03:34 PM
looks like the Nuggets will become irrelevant once again.....

Basketballgirl25
08-18-2010, 03:45 PM
They do, if they offer Favors. The Knicks are limited draft pick wise and don't have a prospect the caliber of Favors. But I'm skeptical the Nets would offer Favors.

It would depend on how quickly and how good the Nets became with Anthony, which is somewhat difficult to predict. Because of that, I can't judge the quality of the picks, so I couldn't say definitively if Murphy, Williams and two future 1sts is better than Gallinari, Curry, Chandler, a future 1st and taking Balkman's salary off the Nuggets hands. Of course, the former I made up and the latter I'm basing off a rumor and adding parts to, but I think those are realistic offers.


I'm Skeptical if the Nets would offer Favors as well, I mean if they think he can be really good in the future then I don't know if I'd want Nets to trade him, it is difficult to predict how the Nets would do with Anthony, but fans can't look at last years Nets team and guess, since Nets only have 3 players from last year, and it wasn't any of the players who sucked:toast

The Franchise
08-18-2010, 05:24 PM
I would offer Battier, Hill, Jefferies, 2011-13 first round picks and cash. You get a defensive minded sf that can hit the open three and is expiring in Battier, a good young bench player in Hill, a good defender with length in Jefferies (also expiring), three first round draft picks to help the rebuilding process, and a little cash to help push that plan along.

Yao/Miller
Scola/Hayes/Patterson
Anthony/CBud
Martin/Lee
Brooks/Lowry

That's a pretty decent package for Denver, and allows Carmelo to come to a team that hasn't been absolutely gutted.

DPG21920
08-18-2010, 05:26 PM
You can't trade consecutive first round picks.

The Franchise
08-18-2010, 05:41 PM
You can't trade consecutive first round picks.

If we give them NY 2012 pick is that still considered trading consecutive picks?

djohn2oo8
08-18-2010, 08:23 PM
Total pipe dream

DPG21920
08-18-2010, 08:31 PM
If we give them NY 2012 pick is that still considered trading consecutive picks?

I think if you have multiple first round picks it is ok. I think the "non-consecutive" rule only applies if it is your only first rounder in a year. But I have to clarify.

024
08-18-2010, 08:33 PM
looks like melo already made up his mind. if the nuggets play their cards right, they can rebuild quickly by trading melo. the nuggets still have pretty young players in nene, smith, and lawson. they should get at least two future first picks in return plus a young project like favors, gallinari, or whatever the rockets are willing to give up.

personally, if i were to trade melo to the rockets, i would want at least scola, martin, and a first round pick in return. rockets should do it too because they can always play battier next to melo at the wing.

024
08-18-2010, 08:41 PM
I would offer Battier, Hill, Jefferies, 2011-13 first round picks and cash. You get a defensive minded sf that can hit the open three and is expiring in Battier, a good young bench player in Hill, a good defender with length in Jefferies (also expiring), three first round draft picks to help the rebuilding process, and a little cash to help push that plan along.

Yao/Miller
Scola/Hayes/Patterson
Anthony/CBud
Martin/Lee
Brooks/Lowry

That's a pretty decent package for Denver, and allows Carmelo to come to a team that hasn't been absolutely gutted.
the rockets are trading with the nuggets, not the grizzlies.

ducks
08-18-2010, 09:16 PM
let me be the first carmelo for tp and manu

DaDakota
08-18-2010, 10:42 PM
I want him but not at the expense of gutting our team.

Maybe for something like:

Battier, Jeffries, Budinger, Hill and one of the NY Picks.

They get a young replacement SF with promise in Cbud and a young PF in hill as well as a good SF in Shane that is expiring, and Jeffries to make salaries match...and give up one of the NY picks.

Overall though, to be completely honest, I really don't want the Rockets to go too deep into him, he is sort of a chucker, and I want to see what this team can do on it's own with a healthy Yao Ming.

DD

djohn2oo8
08-18-2010, 10:59 PM
I want him but not at the expense of gutting our team.

Maybe for something like:

Battier, Jeffries, Budinger, Hill and one of the NY Picks.

They get a young replacement SF with promise in Cbud and a young PF in hill as well as a good SF in Shane that is expiring, and Jeffries to make salaries match...and give up one of the NY picks.

Overall though, to be completely honest, I really don't want the Rockets to go too deep into him, he is sort of a chucker, and I want to see what this team can do on it's own with a healthy Yao Ming.

DD

You HAVE to throw in both picks, or another future one.

EricB
08-19-2010, 01:01 AM
:lol in what world was Kevin Martin EVER a top 5 sg?

The Franchise
08-19-2010, 02:08 AM
:lol in what world was Kevin Martin EVER a top 5 sg?

Say what you will about him, but getting 20-25 points a night on 10-12 shots puts you very damn high on the list!! :lol

HarlemHeat37
08-19-2010, 02:13 AM
Say what you will about him, but getting 20-25 points a night on 10-12 shots puts you very damn high on the list!! :lol

Didn't he not do that last season, or am I not remembering correctly?..

Darrin
08-19-2010, 03:09 AM
If the Nets could get by with a couple of draft picks and a trade exception (I don't know if this is possible), the Nets would have Favors, Lopez, Anythony, and Harris as their nucleus. Look at this team:

PG - Devin Harris / Jordan Farmar
SG - Anthony Morrow / Quinton Ross
SF - Carmelo Anthony / Travis Outlaw
PF - Derrick Favors / Troy Murphy / Sean May
C - Brook Lopez / Kris Humphries / Johan Petro

They'll also have the unknowns of their rookie class--Zoubek, Uzoh, and James. They might get something out of these guys. That's a 50-win team in the East, possibly a home-court team.

mountainballer
08-19-2010, 03:59 AM
They do, if they offer Favors. The Knicks are limited draft pick wise and don't have a prospect the caliber of Favors. But I'm skeptical the Nets would offer Favors.


(wrote it also in the Knicks/big3 thread)
I'm sure the nets wouldn't hesitate for a second to offer Favors for Melo.
(no team in the NBA would. Favors has a lot of potential, but like every rookie, he is totally unproven. could very well have just the same ceiling like Okafor.)

and the story, that Brooklyn kid Anthony leads the Nets back to Brooklyn is just to good. and book it, Prokhorov is not the type of owner who wants to wait several years if a young player in fact develops into a superstar, if he can get a superstar immediately.

(btw. think about the money. who will bring in more $ immediately. Melo or Favors?)

the Nets package could be almost perfect for the Nuggets, if they start the rebuilding. (and they will, if they can't hold Melo)
Favors, the 2011 1st rounder, Murphy, they might even be able to demand Williams.
the contract of K-mart expires 2011, he will be 33 or 34 then. Favors is a great option to take his place. K-Mart becomes a trade chip at deadline, as well as Murphy, as well as Billupps. (or they let all expire and become a major player for the 2011 free agency)

Basketballgirl25
08-19-2010, 07:19 AM
(wrote it also in the Knicks/big3 thread)
I'm sure the nets wouldn't hesitate for a second to offer Favors for Melo.
(no team in the NBA would. Favors has a lot of potential, but like every rookie, he is totally unproven. could very well have just the same ceiling like Okafor.)

and the story, that Brooklyn kid Anthony leads the Nets back to Brooklyn is just to good. and book it, Prokhorov is not the type of owner who wants to wait several years if a young player in fact develops into a superstar, if he can get a superstar immediately.

(btw. think about the money. who will bring in more $ immediately. Melo or Favors?)

the Nets package could be almost perfect for the Nuggets, if they start the rebuilding. (and they will, if they can't hold Melo)
Favors, the 2011 1st rounder, Murphy, they might even be able to demand Williams.
the contract of K-mart expires 2011, he will be 33 or 34 then. Favors is a great option to take his place. K-Mart becomes a trade chip at deadline, as well as Murphy, as well as Billupps. (or they let all expire and become a major player for the 2011 free agency)

agree with the part about Melo in Brooklyn(that's be a great story) and also agree about prokhorov, not wanting to wait if he can get a great player, but never know maybe he wants to rebuild the team the right way:toast

The Franchise
08-19-2010, 09:49 AM
Didn't he not do that last season, or am I not remembering correctly?..

You're not remembering correctly on this one. He averaged over 20 points even after coming back from the broken wrist.

GuerillaBlack
08-19-2010, 11:53 AM
Someone explain to me why the Nuggets would want Martin? Especially at Martin's price.

Double-Up
08-19-2010, 11:58 AM
Someone explain to me why the Nuggets would want Martin? Especially at Martin's price.

They probably don't want Martin or Brooks but one or two of our young prospects, expiring contracts, and draft picks.

The Franchise
08-19-2010, 12:08 PM
They probably don't want Martin or Brooks but one or two of our young prospects, expiring contracts, and draft picks.

All things I would be more than willing to give them.

djohn2oo8
08-19-2010, 12:28 PM
I would do a Battier, Hill, Budinger, Patterson, Jefferies, Both NY picks for Melo

Indazone
08-19-2010, 01:51 PM
Morey is a guy who never trades three guys for one. The most he'll do is two guys for one and offer future picks, trade exception or cash.

djohn2oo8
08-19-2010, 01:53 PM
Morey is a guy who never trades three guys for one. The most he'll do is two guys for one and offer future picks, trade exception or cash.

:lmao He never had a real chance to acquire a superstar. Not saying that Carmelo isn't "Boshing" us, but this was confirmed by SI. He would have to give up the farm and his left nut for Melo

Indazone
08-19-2010, 01:59 PM
Most likely it would be Melo and some Denver Scrub for three of our guys and we'd end up waiving the Denver Scrub. A typical Morey trade is the trade that got us Scola for a bag of chips and cash.

djohn2oo8
08-19-2010, 02:03 PM
Then again, you have to consider the fact that Denver doesn't want to get LeBron'ed or Bosh'ed, so they should want to get some value back, whether the picks are included, or young talent, most likely both. I think Morey can convince the Nuggs that the Knicks will be bad enough to where the value of those picks will skyrocket, and they will at least have a bright future.

TD 21
08-19-2010, 04:04 PM
(wrote it also in the Knicks/big3 thread)
I'm sure the nets wouldn't hesitate for a second to offer Favors for Melo.
(no team in the NBA would. Favors has a lot of potential, but like every rookie, he is totally unproven. could very well have just the same ceiling like Okafor.)

and the story, that Brooklyn kid Anthony leads the Nets back to Brooklyn is just to good. and book it, Prokhorov is not the type of owner who wants to wait several years if a young player in fact develops into a superstar, if he can get a superstar immediately.

(btw. think about the money. who will bring in more $ immediately. Melo or Favors?)

the Nets package could be almost perfect for the Nuggets, if they start the rebuilding. (and they will, if they can't hold Melo)
Favors, the 2011 1st rounder, Murphy, they might even be able to demand Williams.
the contract of K-mart expires 2011, he will be 33 or 34 then. Favors is a great option to take his place. K-Mart becomes a trade chip at deadline, as well as Murphy, as well as Billupps. (or they let all expire and become a major player for the 2011 free agency)

If Favors were a deal breaker, you're probably right, they'd probably offer him. But I think they'd do everything in their power to avoid offering him. Ultimately though, he'd probably be their only shot.

I'd be very surprised if the Nets offered all of that. I'm aware of the magnitude of player we're talking about here, but still. An elite prospect (who's a big man), a potential quality 1st, a useful player who's on a big expiring contract and possibly another quality prospect.

I think they'll hold onto Billups. He's a local guy, can still play, very good leader and stabilizing presence which they need and by all accounts, seemingly wants to finish his career their.

I still think the Rockets could put together the best offer. It's the type of offer that could keep the Nuggets from becoming irrelevant in an instant. Sure, without Anthony, they'll be less national TV games and less national exposure either way, but they could still be a playoff team with Martin, Battier and Hill.