Boise State vs Virginia Tech

[DesignatedT]

Final score? Early line has BSU favored by 3 going to blacksburg.

VaTech- 35
BSU- 24

[scottspurs]

VT-34
BSU-17

I'm pretty sure there playing in DC with tickets going 50/50 to both teams. I hope Boise loses because if they win they might put them in the NC witch would be very stupid because they don't belong.

[rjv]

hokies in a squeaker

pee wee denver broncos 21
turkey creatures 24

[DesignatedT]

VT-34
BSU-17

I'm pretty sure there playing in DC with tickets going 50/50 to both teams. I hope Boise loses because if they win they might put them in the NC witch would be very stupid because they don't belong.

Oh wow I didn't realize that. That evens the playing field quite a bit. Definitely ready for this game.

[vander]

I don't think it's 50/50
BSU had a hard time selling out many of their home games last year, I doubt they can travel that well

I thought I heard 70/30 on the radio

[tlongII]

I think Boise State will win a squeaker. They have a great team this year.

[scottspurs]

I don't think it's 50/50
BSU had a hard time selling out many of their home games last year, I doubt they can travel that well

I thought I hear 70/30 on the radio

I think your right, I heard that on the radio too.

[symple19]

I'm gonna take BSU...Why not?

23-17

[samikeyp]

Smurf Turf 21
Turkeys 17

[jb4g]

Boise will have approx 50k in attendance according to their fans.

Blue Puke 27
Enter Sandman 31

[Brutalis]

VT 34
BullShitU 24

[johngateswhiteley]

I want va tech, but I actually see boise st. winning this thing.

Bsu 27
Vtech 25

[DesignatedT]

Im changing my prediction. Boise St- 34- Vatech- 31

[DeadlyDynasty]

I want the Broncos, but I think the Chokies win big...

[J.T.]

I wonder what kind of music they listen to at Boise State?

Hokies in a surprise blowout.

[SpursTillTheEnd]

Final score? Early line has BSU favored by 3 going to blacksburg.

VaTech- 35
BSU- 24


wow nigga are you serious?, i guess u forgot what boise did to Oklahoma lmao,
and im sure boise would beat a&m like 63 - 14 or something, but yea boise is gonna ball all on vt bet that ....

[Cant_Be_Faded]

This is setting up for a blow out.

[tlongII]

10-0 Boise State early in the 1st quarter. BSU is putting the wood to them right now.

[tlongII]

Boise State has a tremendous defense this year. They are going to be tough to beat.

[J.T.]

hokies special teams has fucked them over pretty bad

va tech offense was kind of stunned by the speed of the bsu defense at first but they're adjusting nicely

bsu's defense cant be this swole

[tlongII]

20-14 now. We have a ballgame!

[Tommy Tuberville]

wow

[DesignatedT]

now virginia tech is awake. be interesting to see how boise responds.

[benefactor]

Nice recovery by VT. They were really on their heels in the first quarter.

[DesignatedT]

uhohhhhhhhhhhhhh

[tlongII]

Va Tech with a 21-20 lead now.

[DesignatedT]

wow. what a game.

[tlongII]

BSU back on top 26-21. This is a good one.

[DesignatedT]

TD VA Tech. Wowwwwwwww. awesome game.

[J.T.]

hahahahahaha running into the kicker stupid fucking blue field chodes

[Steve Kerr]

hahahahahaha running into the kicker stupid fucking blue field chodes
Normally they're used to playing on a blue field where the ref wouldn't see him run into the kicker :lol

[DesignatedT]

missed fg's :lmao

[tlongII]

Bad call. That wasn't a personal foul.

[benefactor]

Helluva game. VT's to lose now.

[benefactor]

missed fg's :lmao
Yeah...what's up with the whole left hash thing? If you can't make a 30 yard FG from the left hash you have no place on a D-1 team.

[tlongII]

Va Tech with a 2 point lead and the ball at their 7. It will be interesting to see if BSU can keep them pinned and get the ball back.

[Amarelooms]

Va Tech with a 2 point lead and the ball at their 7. It will be interesting to see if BSU can keep them pinned and get the ball back.

4 point lead dummy....get with it

:elephant

[DesignatedT]

hokies just destroying this d

[tlongII]

4 point lead dummy....get with it

:elephant

Yep 4 point lead. My bad.

[DesignatedT]

finally got a stop. boise with 1 more chance

[DesignatedT]

what an idiot block in the back

[Amarelooms]

VT is retarded....should have run the ball there to work the clock. Stupid ass pass

:elephant

[DesignatedT]

well nevermind lol. looked like a illegal block to me

[benefactor]

lol late hit. Neither team wants to win.

[Steve Kerr]

fuck VaTech is gonna blow it.

[Amarelooms]

weak late hit call....dude was running after he stepped out

:elephant

[tlongII]

Boise State scores!!!

[Amarelooms]

VT deserves to lose with bad coaching...lol at them fools

:elephant

[DesignatedT]

TD Boise! 33-30

Tech with 1:09 left

[DesignatedT]

that late hit call was weak tbh

[tlongII]

The late hit call was definitely questionable.

[Amarelooms]

that late hit call was weak tbh

nice you aggie dummy....I said that right after the play.

:elephant

[DesignatedT]

this is it.

[DesignatedT]

Wow Boise. Avoid the choke job. nice.

[tlongII]

That could've been interference.

[Cry Havoc]

They proved they're for real tonight. VT is a hell of a team.

Great game.

[J.T.]

tbh if texas stays undefeated the coaches will never vote bsu in over them

[J.T.]

lol vander showing up after the win is secure. classic charger fan sportsmanship :tu

[vander]

man, BSU's D looked horrible, especially the secondary, WRs were W I D E open all day. if Va Tech had a real QB...

we got lucky, but at the same time, I think BSU is better than what they showed today

[vander]

lol vander showing up after the win is secure. classic charger fan sportsmanship :tu

:lol

so in order to be a good fan in your eyes, I had to be posting on ST instead of watching the game

:lmao:lmao

[BRHornet45]

LOL at the officials helping Boise State and the announcers turning the other cheek to the out of bounds and late hit that wasn't called.

Up Coming Schedule for Boise State:

vs North Utah Missionary College

vs Los Rios Community College

vs Boise High School

vs California Culinary Academy

[Cant_Be_Faded]

That late hit call on the last Boise drive was total bull shit.

But props to Boise State, they showed heart. Now let's just hope they pick up a loss somewhere from now til december lol


What a fun game to watch though.

[DesignatedT]

Boise is for real. If they run the table they deserve to be in and get there chance. still a lot of football to be played though.

[vander]

If they run the table they deserve to be in and get there chance.

no they don't

[Ghazi]

lol @ BR, butthurt Boise's better than LSU

Alabama/BOise will be an epic title game, as the Luminary said

Bama by 3 TD"s though. Saban wit a month to prepare against undersized Boise team? GG>

[samikeyp]

Boise is for real. If they run the table they deserve to be in and get there chance. still a lot of football to be played though.

Agreed. Boise asked for a shot against the big boys...they got it and they stood tall and held.

Great game. VT is way better than I thought they would be...I still think the U wins the ACC but I wouldn't be totally shocked if the Hokies do it.

[J.T.]

:lol

so in order to be a good fan in your eyes, I had to be posting on ST instead of watching the game

:lmao:lmao

bitch plz im sure you have an iphone or a laptop or something

at least you dont blame your wait till they win sportsmanship on 87 hour work weeks tho :tu

[BRHornet45]

lol @ BR, butthurt Boise's better than LSU

Alabama/BOise will be an epic title game, as the Luminary said

Bama by 3 TD"s though. Saban wit a month to prepare against undersized Boise team? GG>

son until there is a playoff system its all speculation and whoever the media decides is the best. there is NEVER a real National Champion in college football. and yes I will even say that for the 2 years LSU won them. each and every year there is never a legit champion. its all media hype and favorites that decides who plays in the title game.

[kamikazi_player]

Congrats BSU, I didn't like the late hit call, but VT had their chances to get back in the game.

[DesignatedT]

Yeah I liked the way VT looked. That QB is awesome.

[kamikazi_player]

:lol

so in order to be a good fan in your eyes, I had to be posting on ST instead of watching the game

:lmao:lmao

Ignore internet geeks like this. Though i may question how you became a fan of BSU, I think it's stupid that you have to post and watch the game at the same time.

[samikeyp]

Yeah I liked the way VT looked. That QB is awesome.

yep.....he and Moore both made cases (albeit early cases) for the Heisman.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

rofl
Saban sucks ass and him being a great preparer is such a generic espn talking point

really helped him when UT curb stomped LSU in 2003 in the cotton bowl right? Saban preparing also almost got his ass smoked by an 18 year old QB in last year's champ game.

[Ghazi]

rofl
Saban sucks ass and him being a great preparer is such a generic espn talking point

really helped him when UT curb stomped LSU in 2003 in the cotton bowl right? Saban preparing also almost got his ass smoked by an 18 year old QB in last year's champ game.

2 crystal balls faggot.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

He prepared so good that Roy Williams (an nfl bust) had like 200 yards receiving against his preparation :lmao

[tlongII]

Boise State is damn good. I think their most difficult game the rest of the way will be when we visit Boise. I think we can hang with them, but we'll see. It should be a lot of fun. :tu

[The Reckoning]

FUCK

tcu fans will not be pleased after this one

[kamikazi_player]

Boise State is damn good. I think their most difficult game the rest of the way will be when we visit Boise. I think we can hang with them, but we'll see. It should be a lot of fun. :tu

I think they were sloppy in this game. Made stupid mistakes, but damn they are very clutch when it comes to the 4th quarter. I hope BSU goes undefeated until they face FRESNO ST. and we whip their ass :).

[DesignatedT]

Fresno might be able to make it interesting if Boise isn't prepared. Pat Hill always has his boys ready to play.

[kamikazi_player]

Unfortunately, we don't play well on their home turf. If it was at Fresno, I would say we would have a chance.

[J.T.]

kamikazi_player is the worst poster when it comes to football on spurstalk :td

[kamikazi_player]

:cry they makin fun of me cause I told vander he should post while watching the game :cry

[kamikazi_player]

lol weren't you that troll brodie? where you said that you were knowledgeable because you post alot on the NFL forum on spurstalk, therefore you know your shit on football.

[tlongII]

How does Fresno's team look this year anyway? I haven't researched them. I know they're usually pretty good.

[kamikazi_player]

Their defense got better, Still a little iffy on their offense. Their running has depleted badly, so they are throwing alot more now.

[kamikazi_player]

I love how they pressured the QB for Cincinnati the whole entire game

[DeadlyDynasty]

what an amazing game....goddamn that was fun....glad the Chokies lost. Hopefully VT will run the table now till they get curbstomped by The U.

[Ignignokt]

2 crystal balls faggot.

funny statement. Too bad you're a sand beaner.

[J.T.]

Unfortunately, we don't play well on their home turf. If it was at Fresno, I would say we would have a chance.


Their defense got better, Still a little iffy on their offense. Their running has depleted badly, so they are throwing alot more now.


I love how they pressured the QB for Cincinnati the whole entire game

quality takes joe :td

[kamikazi_player]

quality takes joe :td

:lmao keep getting butthurt

[J.T.]

:lmao keep getting butthurt

incorrect use of butthurt

go back to school joe :td

[LakerHater]

What is this guy sayin!? "This, is, ....?"

http://i56.tinypic.com/6rhoib_th.jpg

[Girasuck]

Bama by 3 TD"s though. Saban wit a month to prepare against undersized Boise team? GG>

Another delusional Bama fan. Saban had a month to prepare for us and what happened?

[J.T.]

Another delusional Bama fan. Saban had a month to prepare for us and what happened?

lol thinking ghazi is really a bama fan

[Ashy Larry]

FUCK

tcu fans will not be pleased after this one


Not more than BCS dude ... you know they were rooting hard for Va Tech

[The Reckoning]

yeah right the BCS loves this shit so they can pit TCU and Boise together in a bcs bowl again.

[elbamba]

Utah State played OU pretty well. They will meet BSU in the last game of the year but it will be at BSU. They could give them a run for their money. Other then that I do not see who can beat BSU on their schedule. Maybe OSU but I doubt it.

[vander]

Yeah I liked the way VT looked. That QB is awesome.

what?

he was missing wide open receivers all day, and that was just when he decided to throw it, who knows how many more wide open receivers he missed when he got happy feet.

the only throw he can make consistently is the WR screen :lol

he's the reason BSU was able to eke out a win

[vander]

yeah right the BCS loves this shit so they can pit TCU and Boise together in a bcs bowl again.

it's kinda too bad that the BCS never had to solve this problem themselves, conference changes solved it for them

now with Utah on the inside, and TCU/BSU playing each other every year. BCS doesn't have to worry about having 2 party crashers any more

starting next year, whoever wins the TCU/BSU game most likely gets an automatic bid, it'll suddenly be so simple.

[Ashy Larry]

How many times will Boise St have to finish undefeated before they get a sniff of a title game?

They say this game was played on a neutral field. Yeah right. BSU was clearly the road team; travel quite well for a mid-major and actually won the game.

[vander]

How many times will Boise St have to finish undefeated before they get a sniff of a title game?

They say this game was played on a neutral field. Yeah right. BSU was clearly the road team; travel quite well for a mid-major and actually won the game.

doesn't mean shit until you start playing real teams

they only let you count one game against FCS teams right? well half the teams BSU plays right now should arguably be FCS teams.

I mean, what's the requirement for FBS status anyways, shouldn't you have to beat an AQ team at least once every 5 years or something? :lol

moving to the MWC is a step in the right direction for BSU, but if they actually want to contend for the title game, then they have no business scheduling ANY non-AQ OoC opponents. WTF are they doing playing Toledo and Wyoming this year?

BSU would struggle to finish +.500 in the SEC and would have no chance at a big 12-2 or big 10+2 conference championship. EVERYONE knows this, so why reward BSU for their easy schedule?

if the polls and voters don't get smarter, the BCS will need to adjust their formula to increase the importance of Strength of Schedule.

[Girasuck]

I mean, what's the requirement for FBS status anyways, shouldn't you have to beat an AQ team at least once every 5 years or something? :lol


I'm not sure if this is correct, but I believe all you have to do to be a FBS school is average 15,000 fans at your home games for a season.

[dirk4mvp]

Another delusional Bama fan. Saban had a month to prepare for us and what happened?

rofl are you still on that? Do you think Alabama fans care about that game still? It's like when I give Tech fans shit about losing to Snead in the Cotton Bowl, expect you're actually serious.

[Blake]

rofl are you still on that? Do you think Alabama fans care about that game still? It's like when I give Tech fans shit about losing to Snead in the Cotton Bowl, expect you're actually serious.

Snead > Harrell

:depressed

[IronMexican]

Seriously. That was almost 2 years ago. It's all Girasuck ever talks about in this forum.

[Blake]

doesn't mean shit until you start playing real teams

they only let you count one game against FCS teams right? well half the teams BSU plays right now should arguably be FCS teams.

I mean, what's the requirement for FBS status anyways, shouldn't you have to beat an AQ team at least once every 5 years or something? :lol

moving to the MWC is a step in the right direction for BSU, but if they actually want to contend for the title game, then they have no business scheduling ANY non-AQ OoC opponents. WTF are they doing playing Toledo and Wyoming this year?

BSU would struggle to finish +.500 in the SEC and would have no chance at a big 12-2 or big 10+2 conference championship. EVERYONE knows this, so why reward BSU for their easy schedule?

if the polls and voters don't get smarter, the BCS will need to adjust their formula to increase the importance of Strength of Schedule.

Playoffs are necessary.

[vander]

Playoffs are necessary.

:lol necessary to make everyone see how bad it would be and finally STFU about it maybe

[Girasuck]

rofl are you still on that? Do you think Alabama fans care about that game still? It's like when I give Tech fans shit about losing to Snead in the Cotton Bowl, expect you're actually serious.

When it's relevant to the conversation then yes I will still talk about it. Would you like me to use last years Rose Bowl as an example then? Alabama struggled to beat a Texas team with their back up QB and they had more than a month to prepare for it.

Saying that a Saban led team will blow another team out because they have a month to prepare is a false statement and I was just proving that.

In other words...shut the fuck up.

[CubanSucks]

:lol necessary to make everyone see how bad it would be and finally STFU about it maybe

I know, right? It's like, SCREW fair competition!! Let a bunch of fucking random assholes pick everyone's destiny! Consistent controversy is worth it cause everyone's "talking about the sport more!"...:wakeup

[The Gemini Method]

Interesting unis the two teams played in last night. The Hokies looked like they were playing on Halloween night and the Broncos looked like they had sweat stains with that off-grey color on their jersies. Suffice to say, I like Boise St. and they're penchant on beating the occasional bigger division foes. I would've liked them for the PAC-10 instead of Colorado. But, it was nice to see them come back and complete what was an otherwise splendid first weekend of NCAA football.

[CubanSucks]

BSU's jerseys looked like they were inside out,and Va Tech's jersey's were awesome EXCEPT for the lame ass patterns in the numbers and stripes. What the fuck was that shit?! The first thing I thought was Tron

[Girasuck]

Va Tech's jersey was probably one of the best I've seen. I liked Boise's helmets as well.

[dirk4mvp]

:cry the jerseys they were wearing reminds me of that one time Bammer had a month to prepare for the Utes and still lost :cry

[crc21209]

Va Tech's jersey was probably one of the best I've seen. I liked Boise's helmets as well.

I liked Boise's helmets also. :tu

[Blake]

:lol necessary to make everyone see how bad it would be and finally STFU about it maybe

Playoffs are necessary to avoid having to choose between a one loss Bama team and an undefeated Boise St to go to the title game. Let them play it out.

[kamikazi_player]

Playoffs are necessary to avoid having to choose between a one loss Bama team and an undefeated Boise St to go to the title game. Let them play it out.

I'm all for it because I don't want a bunch of computers telling me which teams I should play, especially when we have undefeated teams by the end of the season. And we won't have that mess like in 2003 where we had 2 champions (LSU and USC)

[vander]

Playoffs are necessary to avoid having to choose between a one loss Bama team and an undefeated Boise St to go to the title game. Let them play it out.

if there were a playoffs, or even a provisional +1 game, BSU would have ended the 06 and 09 seasons with a loss. and no one would give a shit about them right now, because they'd be just another Cinderella that came up short.
I'll take a Fiesta bowl win over a playoff loss every single time. and if BSU is ever actually good enough to win a NCG, and they show it with their schedule, the BCS will put them there

you want Football to be like basketball? where Cinderellas always fail and no one watches the regular season?

the BCS formula does what it's supposed to, it makes the entire season a playoffs, and rarely gets the top teams wrong, though this year it might.
And the BCS bowls do what they're supposed to do, they give all the teams besides Texas, OU, Florida, Bama, Ohio State, etc. something to play for, and provide for some good old conference rivalry.

THE SYSTEM WORKS! just might need a little tweaking, like greater emphasis on SoS, and perhaps putting the AP poll in the formula in place of, or averaged with the coaches poll.

[Girasuck]

:cry the jerseys they were wearing reminds me of that one time Bammer had a month to prepare for the Utes and still lost :cry

Me too, asshat.

[Blake]

if there were a playoffs, or even a provisional +1 game, BSU would have ended the 06 and 09 seasons with a loss. and no one would give a shit about them right now, because they'd be just another Cinderella that came up short.
I'll take a Fiesta bowl win over a playoff loss every single time. and if BSU is ever actually good enough to win a NCG, and they show it with their schedule, the BCS will put them there

As long as they remain in a weak conference, the BCS will never put them there.

Why do you assume you would have a playoff loss every single time?


you want Football to be like basketball? where Cinderellas always fail and no one watches the regular season?

You mean the same way nobody watched regular season NFL or high school games?


the BCS formula does what it's supposed to, it makes the entire season a playoffs, and rarely gets the top teams wrong, though this year it might.

Exactly. It's flawed so it needs to be fixed.


And the BCS bowls do what they're supposed to do, they give all the teams besides Texas, OU, Florida, Bama, Ohio State, etc. something to play for, and provide for some good old conference rivalry.

A non-championship BCS bowl is still nothing more than an exhibition game with no meaning.


THE SYSTEM WORKS! just might need a little tweaking, like greater emphasis on SoS, and perhaps putting the AP poll in the formula in place of, or averaged with the coaches poll.

You just admitted above that it doesn't always work.

[CubanSucks]

if there were a playoffs, or even a provisional +1 game, BSU would have ended the 06 and 09 seasons with a loss. and no one would give a shit about them right now, because they'd be just another Cinderella that came up short.
I'll take a Fiesta bowl win over a playoff loss every single time. and if BSU is ever actually good enough to win a NCG, and they show it with their schedule, the BCS will put them there

There's so much wrong with this. The point in sports isn't letting everyone end with happy feelings. It's supposed to be about competition. Was I happy when Texas won the Fiesta Bowl in 2008? Considering I thought they would've lost to Florida, damn right. But it's about principle. A win in what would be a playoff could still be considered a great achievement. You're pretty much admitting that the BCS is a charity case and you're OK with that


you want Football to be like basketball? where Cinderellas always fail and no one watches the regular season?

College basketball is where it's at as far as popularity because it is college BASKETBALL. Except for the east coast big cities where they don't have a team to root for, college football is America's game and nothing would change that.


the BCS formula does what it's supposed to, it makes the entire season a playoffs, and rarely gets the top teams wrong, though this year it might.

Tell that to the Auburn team in 2004, and the Texas team in 2008, and the Utah team in 2008, and Boise and TCU last year. You say that if BSU is ever good enough and their schedule shows it the BCS will put them there, but what if there's always 2 better looking schools from power conferences? Good luck getting your chance

[vander]

As long as they remain in a weak conference, the BCS will never put them there.
it might (mistakenly) happen this year

Why do you assume you would have a playoff loss every single time?
Its not hard to see vast talent gap between BSU and the likes of Florida and Texas, the only reason BSU has beaten teams like Oklahoma, TCU, and Va Tech, is that none of those teams had a good passing QB, and their only offensive strategy was to try and run over and out-athlete their opponents, this was a significant weaknesses that BSU preyed on, and still it took mistakes and luck for BSU to BARELY win those games.

if you can't see that BSU has no chance to beat the true elites then you just aren't watching College football real close


You mean the same way nobody watched regular season NFL or high school games?

when you consider how many more teams there are in college, and how many more games there are that people care about, it should be obvious that college football has the much more successful regular season, the NFL gets the nation to watch a few big games every week involving the top teams, college football gets lots of people to watch lots and lots of games involving lots of irrelevant teams.

with a playoff system, depending on how many teams get in, regular season viewership would drop substantially.

also, with a playoff, teams like Florida and Texas, actually all the AQ teams would have even less incentive to schedule quality OoC opponents, cause they're in with 0 or 1 loss, no matter how easy their schedule, no need to impress anyone or get beat up before the playoffs

Exactly. It's flawed so it needs to be fixed.
flawed in that it's to easy for a non-AQ with a pathetic schedule to reach the title game, easy fix

A non-championship BCS bowl is still nothing more than an exhibition game with no meaning.
yeah it's amazing anyone even watches those BCS bowls

You just admitted above that it doesn't always work.
no, only that is has a specific, correctable error




There's so much wrong with this. The point in sports isn't letting everyone end with happy feelings.It's supposed to be about competition. Was I happy when Texas won the Fiesta Bowl in 2008? Considering I thought they would've lost to Florida, damn right. But it's about principle. A win in what would be a playoff could still be considered a great achievement. You're pretty much admitting that the BCS is a charity case and you're OK with that
you still get your champion, your competition, the BCS finds the 1 and 2 teams, if you're team was #3 you lost, you came up short, you failed.

you have the freedom to view the other bowl games however you want, you can consider a Fiesta Bowl win as nothing more than failure, in which case, your team should have performed better in the regular season, no one's making you watch or feel happy for the winners of the other bowls, maybe it is just a charity, but that doesn't take anything away from the NCG and what leads up to it



College basketball is where it's at as far as popularity because it is college BASKETBALL. Except for the east coast big cities where they don't have a team to root for, college football is America's game and nothing would change that.

I can guarantee you that more people would tune into regular season NCAABB games if they actually mattered, and fewer people would tune into college football games with a playoff because fewer games would effect your team's BCS/Title hopes, as long as you win your (easier) schedule, you get in the playoffs, who cares what the other conferences or Cinderellas are doing, it doesn't effect you any more



Tell that to the Auburn team in 2004, and the Texas team in 2008, and the Utah team in 2008, and Boise and TCU last year. You say that if BSU is ever good enough and their schedule shows it the BCS will put them there, but what if there's always 2 better looking schools from power conferences? Good luck getting your chance

that's how it works, that's the intriguing risk/reward factor of scheduling, schedule tough enough to look better than the other team(s) but not so tough that you give yourself an extra loss.

I shed no tears for any of the teams you mentioned, none of them were the best team in college football, they all controlled their own destiny.

[kamikazi_player]

Have you ever wondered why most sports have a playoff system? There's a reason why they implement it. It gives everyone a fair chance to be #1 and they'll be less what ifs.

[CubanSucks]

you still get your champion, your competition, the BCS finds the 1 and 2 teams, if you're team was #3 you lost, you came up short, you failed.

...says a bunch of voters and computers




I shed no tears for any of the teams you mentioned, none of them were the best team in college football, they all controlled their own destiny.

They did more than control their own destiny, they won all their games!! How much more control can you get?! Except of course for the 2008 Texas, which had one loss like the two teams playing for the NC

[vander]

They did more than control their own destiny, they won all their games!! How much more control can you get?! Except of course for the 2008 Texas, which had one loss like the two teams playing for the NC

scheduling

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Playoffs makes too much sense not to happen eventually--that's why we're just going to fuck around a few more years, laugh in your faces, and make more money in the meantime.

Sincerely,

the BCS

[CubanSucks]

scheduling

Because Auburn had a weaker schedule than OU and USC in 04? Or Texas in 08 who even beat OU while in the same conference?

[DesignatedT]

playoffs :hungry:

[Blake]

it might (mistakenly) happen this yearIts not hard to see vast talent gap between BSU and the likes of Florida and Texas, the only reason BSU has beaten teams like Oklahoma, TCU, and Va Tech, is that none of those teams had a good passing QB, and their only offensive strategy was to try and run over and out-athlete their opponents, this was a significant weaknesses that BSU preyed on, and still it took mistakes and luck for BSU to BARELY win those games.

but BSU won.


if you can't see that BSU has no chance to beat the true elites then you just aren't watching College football real close

then move BSU down to FCS where they apparently belong.


when you consider how many more teams there are in college, and how many more games there are that people care about, it should be obvious that college football has the much more successful regular season, the NFL gets the nation to watch a few big games every week involving the top teams, college football gets lots of people to watch lots and lots of games involving lots of irrelevant teams.

college football regular season will definitely not suffer with the implentation of a playoff system


with a playoff system, depending on how many teams get in, regular season viewership would drop substantially.

proof?


also, with a playoff, teams like Florida and Texas, actually all the AQ teams would have even less incentive to schedule quality OoC opponents, cause they're in with 0 or 1 loss, no matter how easy their schedule, no need to impress anyone or get beat up before the playoffs

Teams have little to no incentive to schedule OoC now unless there is a big pay day or a chance at big exposure.


you still get your champion, your competition, the BCS finds the 1 and 2 teamss if you're team was #3 you lost, you came up short, you failed.

And if three teams come up undefeated, team #3 didn't fail. They got screwed. The system failed them.


I shed no tears for any of the teams you mentioned, none of them were the best team in college football, they all controlled their own destiny.

Auburn went undefeated in the SEC in 04?. The voters controlled their destiny, dumbass.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

scheduling

When you have a standing open invitation to play anybody anywhere, as Boise St. has done, this scheduling argument is bullshit.

Why anyone who isn't making direct money off it defends this crackerjack BCS system is utterly beyond me.

[vander]

When you have a standing open invitation to play anybody anywhere, as Boise St. has done, this scheduling argument is bullshit.

they just rejected a 2 for 1 with Nebraska because $750,000 wasn't enough, wanted a million.

no major programs want to play on that BS blue field, BSU should have jumped at that offer


Why anyone who isn't making direct money off it defends this crackerjack BCS system is utterly beyond me.

if we ever do get a playoffs, after a few years of it, you'll start to see just how right I was, you'll begin to long for the days of the BCS. this is all just a "grass is greener" illusion you all are falling for

[chunticakes]

playoffs?

playoffs?!

[Brutalis]

I haven't read this entire thread but..

No block in the back called? They reviewed that TD pass by Boise and counted it when it shouldn't have been... not to say they wouldn't have scored anyway.

VT played poorly and didn't benefit from the refs either.

Boise gets Ole Miss next year. :lol

[Blake]

if we ever do get a playoffs, after a few years of it, you'll start to see just how right I was, you'll begin to long for the days of the BCS. this is all just a "grass is greener" illusion you all are falling for

:lmao

[vander]

Game got a 6.8 rating, which is apparently pretty good

if there were a playoffs in college football, it would have gotten a 5.2, maybe worse

[CubanSucks]

Game got a 6.8 rating, which is apparently pretty good

if there were a playoffs in college football, it would have gotten a 5.2, maybe worse

First of all, you don't know that. Second, so what? We already know the BCS generates more money, that's why the assholes in charge don't want it to change. In the end it's not about ratings and popularity of the game, which will ALWAYS be strong, it's about the integrity of the game.

[Blake]

Game got a 6.8 rating, which is apparently pretty good

if there were a playoffs in college football, it would have gotten a 5.2, maybe worse

maybe better than a 6.8

[vander]

First of all, you don't know that. Second, so what? We already know the BCS generates more money, that's why the assholes in charge don't want it to change. In the end it's not about ratings and popularity of the game, which will ALWAYS be strong, it's about the integrity of the game.

it generates more money because of it's lack of integrity? because it puts out a lesser product?

don't know about that, I think people would watch less not more if they really thought the BCS was selling out and compromising the integrity, the competition, of the game.

so you think college football fans are tools?

the BCS gets it right, you're fooling yourself if you think anything isn't decided on the feild just because of the BCS. it's all decided on the field, and the BCS does a damn good job of comparing teams of vastly different pedigrees and levels of competition.

it's like if the NFL had to crown a champion that included the CFL and Arena league and whatever other semi-pro leagues are out there, how could you do that based on record alone?

[vander]

maybe better than a 6.8

why would more people watch when it's post-season implications are much less, perhaps none. it would mean nothing to Va Tech, and depending on the playoff setup could even mean nothing to BSU. how does that translate into more viewer interest? :lol

and why would more people watch if BSU was just some team that lost playoff games in 06 and 09.

it's amazing that you can't see ANY of the unintended consequences of a Playoff, all you can see is some occasional 3rd undefeated team getting a chance to play for the title, or some team that blew a game in the regular season getting a second chance.

Schedule quality opponents
Beat them all, be great every week of the season
Go to the Championship Game
No excuses

[Blake]

why would more people watch when it's post-season implications are much less, perhaps none. it would mean nothing to Va Tech, and depending on the playoff setup could even mean nothing to BSU. how does that translate into more viewer interest? :lol

and why would more people watch if BSU was just some team that lost playoff games in 06 and 09.

it's amazing that you can't see ANY of the unintended consequences of a Playoff, all you can see is some occasional 3rd undefeated team getting a chance to play for the title, or some team that blew a game in the regular season getting a second chance.

Schedule quality opponents
Beat them all, be great every week of the season
Go to the Championship Game
No excuses

one loss, Boise St is done. Nobody watches them rest of season.

Playoffs, one loss, Boise St still alive, people watch, they win conference, get at large playoff birth, people watch the playoff game.

It's amazing that there are still a few that just don't get it.

[vander]

one loss, Boise St is done. Nobody watches them rest of season.

Playoffs, one loss, Boise St still alive, people watch, they win conference, get at large playoff birth, people watch the playoff game.

It's amazing that there are still a few that just don't get it.

the casual fans, the viewers that drive the ratings aren't going to watch a one-loss BSU team play NMSU or Idaho or whoever anyways. the casual fans will watch the other games that week that have immediate BCS bowl implications, there are usually plenty of them.

you're not seriously arguing that the networks would make MORE money with a playoff system are you? you think ESPN, Fox, CBS, the NCAA, and the BCS don't know what they're doing? even most of the people wanting a playoff recognize that the current system is more profitable, because more people watch every week, because there are many games that matter, that will have an immediate impact on the postseason landscape, Every. Week.

[CubanSucks]

it generates more money because of it's lack of integrity? because it puts out a lesser product?

I never said that. I was admitting the BCS MAY generate more money and for the reasons you're saying. Still can't see how a playoff wouldn't do just as well in the ratings. The thought of all these juggernauts having to play each other is awesome. And personally I think we could still keep the smaller bowl games as like an NIT type thing just without the tournament. That's what they practically are already




don't know about that, I think people would watch less not more if they really thought the BCS was selling out and compromising the integrity, the competition, of the game.

so you think college football fans are tools?

um...yeah. Maybe not tools but they're gonna watch whatever is on tv. People who hate the BCS, like me, still watch because it's college football and I still want my team to beat the other

[Blake]

the casual fans, the viewers that drive the ratings aren't going to watch a one-loss BSU team play NMSU or Idaho or whoever anyways.

so at the least, there's no difference there.


the casual fans will watch the other games that week that have immediate BCS bowl implications, there are usually plenty of them.

more fans will watch games with playoff implications, imo.


you're not seriously arguing that the networks would make MORE money with a playoff system are you? you think ESPN, Fox, CBS, the NCAA, and the BCS don't know what they're doing?

I'm sure they can make just as much if not more with a playoff system in place.

This is more about college presidents being against a playoff system than the networks.


even most of the people wanting a playoff recognize that the current system is more profitable, because more people watch every week, because there are many games that matter, that will have an immediate impact on the postseason landscape, Every. Week.

I never hear anyone advocating a playoff system say such a thing.

The only people that say that are the BCS honks.