We, Who? ...Glen Beckkk

[Nbadan]

Charming article by Leonard Pitts....

A few words about who ``we'' is.


``This is a moment,'' said Glenn Beck three months ago on his radio program, ``...that I think we reclaim the civil rights movement. It has been so distorted and so turned upside down. . . . We are on the right side of history. We are on the side of individual freedoms and liberties and damn it, we will reclaim the civil rights moment. We will take that movement, because we were the people that did it in the first place!''

Beck was promoting his Restoring Honor rally, to be held Saturday at the Lincoln Memorial, 47 years to the day after Martin Luther King famously spoke there. You'll notice he didn't define the ``we'' he had in mind, but it seems reasonable to suppose Beck was speaking of people like himself: affluent middle-aged conservatives possessed of the ability to see socialism and communism in places where it somehow escapes the notice of others.

If you agree that assumption is reasonable, then you must also agree Beck's contention that his ``we'' were the architects of the civil rights movement is worse than nonsensical, worse than mendacious, worse than shameless. It is obscene. It is theft of legacy. It is robbery of martyr's graves.

We're in an odd moment. Having opposed the freedom movement of the 20th century, some social conservatives seek, now that that movement stands vindicated and venerated, to arrogate unto themselves its language and heroes, to remake it in their image.

Thus, you get claims that ``racism'' is now what Shirley Sherrod said in a speech to the NAACP. And people calling Sarah Palin the new face of feminism. And conservatives touting the likelihood that King voted Republican -- as if the party in 1957 bore any resemblance to the party now.

But even by those standards, Glenn Beck's effrontery is monumental. Even by those standards, he goes too far. Beck was part of the ``we'' who founded the civil rights movement!? No. Here's who ``we'' is.

``We'' is Emmett Till, tied to a cotton gin fan in the murky waters of the Tallahatchie River. ``We'' is Rosa Parks telling the bus driver no. ``We'' is Diane Nash on a sleepless night waiting for missing Freedom Riders to check in. ``We'' is Charles Sherrod, husband of Shirley, gingerly testing desegregation compliance in an Albany, Ga., bus station. ``We'' is a sharecropper making his X on a form held by a white college student from the North. ``We'' is celebrities like Harry Belafonte, Marlon Brando and Pernell Roberts of Bonanza, lending their names, their wealth and their labor to the cause of freedom.

``We'' is Medgar Evers, Michael Schwerner, Jimmie Lee Jackson, James Reeb, Viola Liuzzo, Cynthia Wesley, Andrew Goodman, Denise McNair, James Chaney, Addie Mae Collins and Carole Robertson, shot, beaten and blown to death for that cause.

``We'' is Lyndon Johnson, building a legislative coalition of moderate Republicans and Democrats to defeat intransigent Southern Democratic conservatives and enshrine that cause into law.

And ``we'' is Martin Luther King, giving voice and moral clarity to the cause -- and paying for it with his life.

The we to which Glenn Beck belongs is the we that said no, the we that cried ``socialism!'' ``communism!'' ``tyranny!'' whenever black people and their allies cried freedom.

The fatuous and dishonorable attempt to posit conservatives as the prime engine of civil rights depends for success on the ignorance of the American people. Sadly, as anyone who has ever watched a Jay Walking segment on The Tonight Show can attest, the American people have ignorance in plenitude.

This, then, is to serve notice as Beck and his tea party faithful gather in Lincoln's shadow to claim the mantle of King: Some of us are not ignorant. Some of us remember. Some of us know very well who ``we'' is.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/08/25/1790858/this-is-who-we-really-is-glenn.html#ixzz0xr5juoGC

[DarrinS]

More reinforcement of Krauthammer's OpEd.

[Blackjack]

Honestly (and genuinely -- I'm pleading ignorance if I've missed something), when did Glen Beck become Glen BecKKK?

Was there some legitimate racist rant or something in the past that happened or is this just a right/left thing with posters?

[Parker2112]

I hope this rally is shredded by outraged citizens in D.C.

[Nbadan]

Seriously? ...you know Glenn Beckkk is Mormon, right?


4NgLkm1pj4k

[Nbadan]

The book of Mormon...

jFZ1jVO3-OE

[angrydude]

so "all Mormons are racist" is your proof beck is racist?

weak.

[Blackjack]

Just curious, if you're going to point to his faith or the rants of one who shares his faith, do you feel the same way about Obama?

[Oh, Gee!!]

Just curious, if you're going to point to his faith or the rants of one who shares his faith, do you feel the same way about Obama?

because Obama is Islam. oh, snap!

[Jacob1983]

Obama is a religion?

[Winehole23]

There's nothing wrong with Mormons. They're weird for sure but they're Christians too. Somehow.

[Winehole23]

C'mon Dan. Of all the possible gripes about *Glen Beckkk* his Mormonism rates pretty low I wd think.

[boutons_deux]

[QUOTE=Blackjack;4599271when did Glen Beck become Glen BecKKK?
[/QUOTE]

Throughout his career in Top 40 radio, Beck was known for his imitations of “black guy” characters and racist tropes. According to Beck’s former colleagues in the late 90s, this included mocking unarmed blacks shot and killed by white police officers.

http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/147951

Repugs, conservatives, right-wingers are fundamentally racist, and race warriors.

"no/small govt" and "anti-entitlement" strategies are euphemistic fog words for "anti-slavery-reparations".

The class war is both wealthy class vs non-wealthy class and white class vs non-white class. Same warriors and same targets in both wars.

Throw in the "Christian" fundamentalist/evangelist supremacists Christian class vs non-Christian class (BecKKK is a clinically ill egomaniac addictive asshole with a Messiah complex), and you have the complete recipe for the Repug/conservative hate stew.

[Winehole23]

(burp)

[EmptyMan]

What's with the Mormon hate???


Bunch of bigoted nationalist anti-religious tolerant meanies up in here.

[JoeChalupa]

You know he'll shed some tears.

[boutons_deux]

Blacks showing up by the 1000s to see BecKKK

http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/angry-old-glenn-beck-scooter-lady.jpg

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[Crookshanks]

Glenn Beck 8/28 rally: It's a matter of honor
Dr. Alveda King – the niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., – explains why she's speaking at the Glenn Beck 8/28 rally in Washington this Saturday.
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By Alveda King / August 26, 2010

New York

In front of the Lincoln Memorial in June, a group of students caught up in a moment of spontaneous patriotism broke into song. But the US Park Police were quick to shush the members of the Young America’s Foundation, saying singing is not allowed at the memorial. The song that was stifled? “The Star-Spangled Banner.”

So much for freedom of speech.

At the Martin Luther King, Jr., Center for Nonviolent Social Change in Atlanta this July, an official at the memorial to one of the greatest civil rights leaders in the world – my Uncle Martin – removed a bullhorn from the hands of Father Frank Pavone, an internationally recognized leader of the pro-life movement. We were a group more than 100 strong, in Atlanta to declare that abortion is the greatest violation of civil rights in our day. We brought a wreath to lay at Uncle Martin’s grave while we prayed, but due to a King Center official’s barricade at the gravesite, we weren’t allowed. The National Park Service said that would constitute a demonstration.

So much for freedom of assembly.

Symbols of liberty
Americans are hungry to reclaim the symbols of our liberty, hard won by an unlikely group of outnumbered, outgunned, underfunded patriots determined not to live in servitude to the British Empire. If we want to sing the national anthem at a memorial to the man who led this fledgling nation out of slavery, and made my people free, we should be able to send our voices soaring to the heavens.

Glenn Beck’s “Rally to Restore Honor” this Saturday will give us that chance, and that’s why I feel it’s important for me to be there.

Before the words were out of Mr. Beck’s mouth announcing the Aug. 28 rally, The New York Times noted that it would be at the same place and 47 years to the day since my Uncle Martin gave his “I Have a Dream Speech.” When asked why he chose that date in particular, Beck said he had not realized its significance, but in thinking about it, he saw it is an auspicious day to rally for the honor of the American people. He has said, and he’s right, that Martin Luther King didn’t speak only for African-Americans. He spoke for all Americans, and his words still ring true.

Other groups are planning rallies and demonstrations in Washington that day, and freedom of speech gives them the right to do so – and to criticize me for not jumping on their bandwagon. But Uncle Martin’s legacy is big enough to go around.

A rally about character, not politics
Though critics see it as partisan, Beck’s rally is not a political event, per se. Instead, it is designed to be a refreshing exercise of freedom of speech.

The rally will be a celebration of who we are as a nation and a chance to stop for a moment, reflect, reorganize, and re-energize. It’s a chance to think about character; both our character as a nation and our character as individuals.

Delineating ourselves as red state or blue, liberal or conservative, minority or majority, we have not quite reached the day when men and women are “judged not by the color of their skin but on the content of their character.” We are still marching toward that day. As Uncle Martin said, “we cannot turn back.”

The rally will also give America another chance to honor and thank the men and women in our armed forces for the dangers they face every day in our stead. Unless you have a loved one in Iraq or Afghanistan, it’s too easy to forget that tens of thousands of Americans are far from the comforts of home, are directly in harm’s way, facing an enemy who hates us precisely because we are free. And coming just days before the ninth anniversary of 9/11, the day that roused us from our complacency, we could use another wakeup call, one of our own devising.

When I join Beck and all gathered at the Lincoln Memorial this weekend, I will talk about my Uncle Martin and the America he envisioned. I will talk about honor and character and sacrifice. I will be joined by those who represent the diversity of the human race.

On Saturday, Uncle Martin’s dream of personhood and human dignity will resound across America. And the Park Police should consider themselves forewarned: As we stand in the symbolic shadow of the great American who signed the Emancipation Proclamation, we just might sing.

Dr. Alveda King is the director of African-American outreach for Priests for Life, and the founder of King for America.

[PublicOption]

the GOP made this shit up so they could grab some headline and divert it from the 5th anniversary of the GOP fuckup called Katrina.

[CosmicCowboy]

The GOP causes hurricanes now?

[balli]

The GOP causes hurricanes now?

Nope. They just ignore them as long as they're killing thousands of black people.

[CosmicCowboy]

BTW, you can place the blame for the human loss of life/distress squarely on the (Democratic) Governor and New Orleans Mayor for ignoring the Feds begging them to implement mandatory evacuation.

/endKatrinabitching

[PublicOption]

the GOP made this shit up so they could grab some headline and divert it from the 5th anniversary of the GOP fuckup called Katrina.


let me reinterate

[PublicOption]

reiterate

[Nbadan]

because Obama is Islam. oh, snap!

...moreso, absolutes only apply to Muslims....if Obama were Muslim (which he is not), then he must sympathize with fundamentalist, Shiria-law muslims like those that attacked us on 911...in fact, all Muslims must because they are Muslim, hereto, all Muslims are terrorist or potential terrorist, at least, according to wing-nut world....

[Nbadan]

Obama is a religion?

To some wing-nuts he is, that's why they call him the Obamessiah...

[Nbadan]

There's nothing wrong with Mormons. They're weird for sure but they're Christians too. Somehow.

So, there IS a difference between Christians and 'non-Christians'? Perhaps a slip of words but if you, WC, can make this slip.....

[Blackjack]

because Obama is Islam. oh, snap!

Mmmkay. :tu

But I was simply seeing if Nbandan was consistent with calling those that share a belief, a church or hear the gospel and rants of a fool, to all be of the same thinking.

As unfortunate as it is, people who blindly support right/left, conservatism/liberalism don't matter much to me. I'm not looking to impose beliefs or convert people -- conversion won't come about unwillingly, not in the form of belief.

I just haven't spent a lot of time in this forum and am honestly trying to get a read on its participants.

[Nbadan]

....besides, a major premise behind Mormon history is that people were separated by 'God' based on race and their choice of, good or evil....much like the Nazi..a superior race...now many Mormons have denounced this history and included blacks, even allowing them to become Priests....but the history is there....

....and as much as I like to believe we live in a world where relatively matters, as long as we let ideologues like Rush, Hannity, and Beck, direct a major party in the U.S., the less I believe that relativity does matter....all liberals are socialists, all welfare moms are leaches and progressives are blood-sucking parasites...

[balli]

mormons are not Christians. They are blasphemous cult members. And the culture they've built around their false dogma (and the dogma itself) imperils the well-being of their sheeple members and the greater societal whole. They are almost exclusively bad people and they are a disease unto Christ's message.

[Nbadan]

BTW, you can place the blame for the human loss of life/distress squarely on the (Democratic) Governor and New Orleans Mayor for ignoring the Feds begging them to implement mandatory evacuation.

/endKatrinabitching

So, it was up to the State to fix a failed FEMA?

[CosmicCowboy]

So, it was up to the State to fix a failed FEMA?

As usual, reading comprehension issues from NBA Dan.

I specifically said human loss of life/distress.

[Yonivore]

Sounds like Beck had quite a turn out. How'd Sharpton's counter march go? Anybody hear?

[Blackjack]

Sounds like Beck had quite a turn out. How'd Sharpton's counter march go? Anybody hear?


They'll both be replayed tonight and Monday for those that are interested.

[fraga]

The book of Mormon...

jFZ1jVO3-OE

http://www.lostrepublic.us/Graphics/DoubleFacePalm.jpg

[DarrinS]

mormons are not Christians. They are blasphemous cult members. And the culture they've built around their false dogma (and the dogma itself) imperils the well-being of their sheeple members and the greater societal whole. They are almost exclusively bad people and they are a disease unto Christ's message.


Well, at least they aren't crashing planes into buildings.

[Nbadan]

Well, at least they aren't crashing planes into buildings.

You mean like that wing-nut did to the IRS building?

[Nbadan]

As usual, reading comprehension issues from NBA Dan.

I specifically said human loss of life/distress.

So FEMA's inept evacuation plan didn't lead to loss of human life or cause distress? Got it...

[balli]

You mean like that wing-nut did to the IRS building?

You can't go around knocking white people like that. He was just telling the evil American government to get off our backs. Like any good conservative. Them moslims on the other hand... fuck 'em all.

[Winehole23]

Relitigating the aftermath of Katrina is hardly germane to Beck's Washington rally. You're grasping at straws, Dan.

[Nbadan]

The Feds were looking for a scapegoat....they got caught with their pants to their ankles by Katrina and they wanted to bring in Federal resources, namely troops with guns, as long as the state would take capability for the 1000's of people projections said were going to die because FEMA had no plan to evacuate New Orleans and the army corp of engineers failed to improve the levees to withstand anything greater than a Cat3 hurricane....

[Winehole23]

mormons are not Christians. They are blasphemous cult members. And the culture they've built around their false dogma (and the dogma itself) imperils the well-being of their sheeple members and the greater societal whole. They are almost exclusively bad people and they are a disease unto Christ's message.Even granting all that, Mormonism is protected expression. In the US at least.

[Winehole23]

The Feds were looking for a scapegoat....they got caught with their pants to their ankles by Katrina and they wanted to bring in Federal resources, namely troops with guns, as long as the state would take capability for the 1000's of people projections said were going to die because FEMA had no plan to evacuate New Orleans and the army corp of engineers failed to improve the levees to withstand anything greater than a Cat3 hurricane....This relates to *Glen Beckkk's* rally how again? Is pointing at the date really the best you've got?

[balli]

Mormonism is protected expression. In the US at least.
As is incredulity about the sanity and/or morality of anybody who promotes it.

[Winehole23]

Absolutely.

[CosmicCowboy]

So FEMA's inept evacuation plan didn't lead to loss of human life or cause distress? Got it...

Since when is FEMA responsible for ordering evacuations? Throwing out weak and false partisan bullshit like that just undermines your already shaky credibility.

[Nbadan]

Relitigating the aftermath of Katrina is hardly germane to Beck's Washington rally. You're grasping at straws, Dan.

I'm just entertaining myself with CC....The Glenn Beckkk rally on Martin Luther King's "I had a dream' speech day speaks volumes itself about whose rights Beckkk is really fighting for...

[Nbadan]

You can't go around knocking white people like that. He was just telling the evil American government to get off our backs. Like any good conservative. Them moslims on the other hand... fuck 'em all.

No doubt the near decapitation of a cabbie simply for being Muslim is another one of those 'isolated incidents', at least according to the M$M,.....how many 'isolated incidents' does it take for these acts to be domestic terrorism by wing-nut leaning sympathizers anyway?

[Nbadan]

Even granting all that, Mormonism is protected expression. In the US at least.

This isn't about modern day Mormonism......but about ideology, past ideology for some Mormons but still ideology...kinda like some of these wing-nut groups history, like the minutemen who Beckkk also supports, with their racists pasts....the history is there..

[ChumpDumper]

So was honor restored?

[EmptyMan]

Nope! We must first reconstitute the tradition of dueling in order to achieve that.

http://alexanderhamiltonpictures.com/images/alexanderhamilton3.jpg

[DarrinS]

The Feds were looking for a scapegoat....they got caught with their pants to their ankles by Katrina and they wanted to bring in Federal resources, namely troops with guns, as long as the state would take capability for the 1000's of people projections said were going to die because FEMA had no plan to evacuate New Orleans and the army corp of engineers failed to improve the levees to withstand anything greater than a Cat3 hurricane....

Louisiana poll: Katrina response better than Oil Spill response

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38586.html

[panic giraffe]

Louisiana poll: Katrina response better than Oil Spill response

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38586.html

yes, so its better to have a mistake that kills people and kills an economy instead of one that hurts an economy and tarnishes the name of an industry.

got it.

[Nbadan]

yes, so its better to have a mistake that kills people and kills an economy instead of one that hurts an economy and tarnishes the name of an industry.

got it.

No doubt Politico polled New Orlean's right side of the tracks...you know, the side that didn't drown...

[Nbadan]

So was honor restored?

Only if 'honor' means Glenn Beckkk lining his pockets with more wing-nut money...

[DarrinS]

yes, so its better to have a mistake that kills people and kills an economy instead of one that hurts an economy and tarnishes the name of an industry.

got it.



Don't blame the messenger.

[ChumpDumper]

But Darrin said nothing bad happened from the oil spill.

[DarrinS]

But Darrin said nothing bad happened from the oil spill.


Will your posts improve after November?

[ChumpDumper]

Will your posts improve after November?How many Superdomes away is that?

[DarrinS]

How many Superdomes away is that?


You've answered my question. Thanks.

[ChumpDumper]

You've answered my question. Thanks.I don't have to ask if the quality of your posts will ever improve.

[Yonivore]

They'll both be replayed tonight and Monday for those that are interested.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/media/fe35cc13-9c51-4e88-85c1-cf10a6200d8e.jpg

Conservative estimates put it at 300,000. Some as high as 600,000.

Sharpton? About 3,000.

[ChumpDumper]

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/mall.jpg
Conservative estimates put it at 300,000.That was the number it was permitted for.
Some as high as 600,000.Whose estimates were those?

[ChumpDumper]

lol "conservative" estimates.

[DMX7]

lol "conservative" estimates.

lol

[Wild Cobra]

In front of the Lincoln Memorial in June, a group of students caught up in a moment of spontaneous patriotism broke into song. But the US Park Police were quick to shush the members of the Young America’s Foundation, saying singing is not allowed at the memorial. The song that was stifled? “The Star-Spangled Banner.”
This is bullshit, right?

This cannot be true, because it would be a constitutional violation.

[ChumpDumper]

This is bullshit, right?

This cannot be true, because it would be a constitutional violation.Which one is the freedom of singing clause?

[DMX7]

"group of students caught up in a moment of spontaneous patriotism"

:lmao

[Nbadan]

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/media/fe35cc13-9c51-4e88-85c1-cf10a6200d8e.jpg

Conservative estimates put it at 300,000. Some as high as 600,000.

Sharpton? About 3,000.

Yoni's photo links to Breitbart

:lol

[sook]

Louisiana poll: Katrina response better than Oil Spill response

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38586.html

:lol

Well obviously you moron. BP is the only one with the sufficient tech in cleaning up their oil spill.

You are such a fucking tool. Typical partisan bullshit and sticking up for your oil brothers before the country.

[Nbadan]

Not quite M.L.K.

6m05VSyHoQ4

[Yonivore]

Not quite M.L.K.

So? Who is trying to make that comparison?

[PublicOption]

^Beck is by saying things like "black people don't own the civil rights movement" and "we started the civil rights movement"

who the fuck is "WE"?

fucking honkey!

[DarrinS]

^Beck is by saying things like "black people don't own the civil rights movement" and "we started the civil rights movement"

who the fuck is "WE"?

fucking honkey!


nice

[angrydude]

lol at libs heads exploding trying to categorize and stereotype glenn beck's rally.

[PublicOption]

^thank you, CrackerS

[Spurminator]

Glenn Beck is a pretty easy target, yet Nbadan has somehow made himself look even more ridiculous in this thread by over-swinging repeatedly. Pretty impressive.

[boutons_deux]

BecKKK pseudo-tent-revival/snake-oil-pitch attended by affirming blacks by the millions:

http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/in-memory-large.jpg

[admiralsnackbar]

BecKKK pseudo-tent-revival/snake-oil-pitch attended by affirming blacks by the millions:

http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/in-memory-large.jpg
When's the last time anybody saw a crowd that pale in DC? Wowsies.

[DMX7]

So many diverse young inspired faces in that crowd.

[DarrinS]

BecKKK pseudo-tent-revival/snake-oil-pitch attended by affirming blacks by the millions:

http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/in-memory-large.jpg


While you guys were so honed in on the white, cracker, honky-ness of that crowd (classy, BTW), I was noticing how much the guy with sign looks like Fat Bastard from Austin Powers.


http://blog.thinkplaid.com/uploaded_images/fat-bastard-767785.jpg

[admiralsnackbar]

Having lived in DC for a while, I'm honestly just amazed the photographer was able to capture a shot with nobody of a different race on the mall. No mean feat in a city with over half its population being black.

[admiralsnackbar]

While you guys were so honed in on the white, cracker, honky-ness of that crowd (classy, BTW), I was noticing how much the guy with sign looks like Fat Bastard from Austin Powers.


http://blog.thinkplaid.com/uploaded_images/fat-bastard-767785.jpg

Now you're going to lecture us on classiness? :lol

As I said, the unwavering pallor of the crowd is statistically improbable. It also says something about the message delivered in that it clearly doesn't speak to the diversity of the country.

[DarrinS]

Having lived in DC for a while, I'm honestly just amazed the photographer was able to capture a shot with nobody of a different race on the mall. No mean feat in a city with over half its population being black.


I saw some of the footage of Beck speaking and there were black folks in the crowd behind him. These are the kind of folks that tolerant liberals would call "Uncle Toms".

[admiralsnackbar]

I saw some of the footage of Beck speaking and there were black folks in the crowd behind him. These are the kind of folks that tolerant liberals would call "Uncle Toms".

Or not.

[DarrinS]

Or not.


Dr. Alveda King must hate herself for giving a speech to all those hate-mongering crackerheads.

FKoIXeBo4DY

[admiralsnackbar]

Dr. Alveda King must hate herself for giving a speech to all those hate-mongering crackerheads.

FKoIXeBo4DY

Did I say anything about the crowd being composed of hatemongers, or are you just building straw-men like you did with your last post?

[DarrinS]

With all that pent up white anger, there were probably a lot of hate crimes committed that day, right?

[admiralsnackbar]

With all that pent up white anger, there were probably a lot of hate crimes committed that day, right?

A healthy number of strawman arguments if nothing else.

Right?

[DMX7]

FKoIXeBo4DY


That was a thoroughly uninspiring speech.

The crowd barely seemed to pay attention.

Alveda King shares nothing with Dr. MLK except her last name. She's a gay hating evangelical conservative fraud. And does she really refer to herself as a PHD? Highly disingenuous if true.

[ChumpDumper]

So? Who is trying to make that comparison?Beck.

He also compared himself to Gandhi and Jesus.

[DarrinS]

That was a thoroughly uninspiring speech.

The crowd barely seemed to pay attention.

Alveda King shares nothing with Dr. MLK except her last name. She's a gay hating evangelical conservative fraud. And does she really refer to herself as a PHD? Highly disingenuous if true.



So, to summarize your post:

The white racist crowd didn't pay attention to the Uncle Tom.

[DMX7]

Maybe because she was black? lol

[balli]

The dumb bitch sold out her race by appearing with and at the behest openly racist, ignorant scum. I'm not afraid to call it exactly what it is. Bitch is a disgrace to her uncle's legacy and the African-American plight. Fuck her.

[admiralsnackbar]

The dumb bitch sold out her race by appearing with and at the behest openly racist, ignorant scum. I'm not afraid to call it exactly what it is. Bitch is a disgrace to her uncle's legacy and the African-American plight. Fuck her.

"Race betrayal" is as fatuous a concept as racism. They're based in the same assumption that race has an in-built political position. Fuck that.

[boutons_deux]

Maybe because she was black? lol

She looks like she's black by the one-drop rule. She looks even whiter than Magic Negro. She's high-yellow AA, a group known, by not widely outside of AAs, for its discrimination against blacker AAs.

[jn77]

I usually don't post here because it seems threads start out as a good political discussions and about two posts in it becomes partasin name calling and finger pointing. So a little background...

I am a liberal ( I know, muslim loving comunist,socialist,marxist, blah, blah blah..) got that out of the way, good! I don't hate what Glenn Beck did yesterday. From what I have seen the comments made there were not overtley politocal, like Beck personally asked they not be. He was raising money ( I believe) for wounded soldgiers and their families. Why is that a bad thing? Do I agree with his polotics, No. Do I agree with the choice of date and location? Not SO much, but where else in DC could this have been done?

My only questions arise when I think, Okay, this is not SUPPOSED to be a republican/ Tea Party event, but restoring honor to the country, right? If that is the case then why was it only conservatives and Republicans who were invited to speak? Why was freedomworks out there selling t-shirts and registering voters? These are all things they have the right to do of course, but be up front about it. Some other questions that always pop up also, where were these "small government" people when the patriot act was first implemented? Where are the strict constitutionalists now that Arizona wants to implement thier own law (state Law) to trump (be it) a very week federal immigration policy? Where were the deficit hounds the last administration? The previous administration deliberatley did not put the wars on the books to make their spending not look so bad, but they spent money too. No Rally on the steps of the Lincoln memorial then. As a matter of fact, I remember being called Un American for even asking these questions then. Oh, and these folks all HATE bailouts right, Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't TARP implemented under the previous administration? Even when we did organize for a march or protest durring the last administration (not often, because Dems are the most unorganized group of people on the planet) we were not sponsored by a Major news network. The "lamestream media" barley even covered those protests out of fear that FOX would call them Left wing media.

So, for me it breaks down to: If this was a true "Restoring Honor" all about the country and not another anti-Obama rally, not partasin in any way, why was it so partasin?


Thanks for your time!

Jim

[fraga]

BecKKK pseudo-tent-revival/snake-oil-pitch attended by affirming blacks by the millions:

http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/in-memory-large.jpg

I found about as many black people in this photo as I did in Sarah Palins stupid Mamma Grizzly video..

oF-OsHTLfxM

[balli]

"Race betrayal" is as fatuous a concept as racism. They're based in the same assumption that race has an in-built political position. Fuck that.

Whatever. She capitalized upon her uncle's name and raped his legacy. Probably for profit. Even if she doesn't have a racial obligation to keep her fucking mouth shut, she sure as hell has a familial one. And she sold her familial obligation (read: legacy) and then raped it until it was bleeding out every orifice.

[admiralsnackbar]

Whatever. She capitalized upon her uncle's name and raped his legacy. Probably for profit. Even if she doesn't have a racial obligation to keep her fucking mouth shut, she sure as hell has a familial one. And she sold her familial obligation (read: legacy) and then raped it until it was bleeding out every orifice.

Welcome to America.

[DMX7]

I found about as many black people in this photo as I did in Sarah Palins stupid Mamma Grizzly video..

oF-OsHTLfxM

Why do hate mongerers like Sarah Palin speak in such ambiguous terms, "We've had enough already"?

Who is "we" and what have you had "enough" of?

[DarrinS]

The dumb bitch sold out her race by appearing with and at the behest openly racist, ignorant scum. I'm not afraid to call it exactly what it is. Bitch is a disgrace to her uncle's legacy and the African-American plight. Fuck her.


Are all black people supposed to think the same way?


See. This is what liberals REALLY think of black people.

[admiralsnackbar]

"I'll miss you most of all, strawman"

[DarrinS]

Someone. Please pay attention to me! Please! :cry

[admiralsnackbar]

Keep trying to take the attention off your moronic generalizations, friendo -- it makes you seem that much smarter. :lol

[DarrinS]

Keep trying to take the attention off your moronic generalizations, friendo -- it makes you seem that much smarter. :lol

LOL "friendo". You're a tough guy like Chumpy, huh?

[admiralsnackbar]

LOL "friendo". You're a tough guy like Chumpy, huh?

Not really -- I'm just enjoying watching you compound generalization upon generalization for lack of saying anything of substance. If I had more of a life, I'd probably be out doing something.

[DMX7]

Are all black people supposed to think the same way?


See. This is what liberals REALLY think of black people.

Think what way?

[boutons_deux]

Are all Muslims terrorists?

See. This is what right-wingers REALLY think of Muslims

[boutons_deux]

http://readersupportednews.org/images/stories/article_imgs2/1465-tea-party-maryland-b-031610.jpg


The Great American Stupid
By John Cory, Reader Supported News
29 August 2010

Reader Supported News | Perspective

The Glenn Beck Magic Revival Hour is over now. The concession stands have sold out of "Freedumb Pop," while Believers shout hosannas and praise the "Word" as revealed to Beck from the burning sagebrush of John Wayne's sacred spirit.

The great Oz Media has analyzed, punditized, commercialized and celebritized the Archie and Veronica of moral mediocrity, proving once again that if it sparkles like shallow water in sunlight it must be worth ratings.

There is nothing new here, nothing even original. Joe Pyne did it in the late 1950s, Billy Sunday and Aimee Semple McPherson did it in the 1920s, and my friend's dad, Cleon Skousen, warned all of us, America's children and parents, that creeping Communism and Sputnik and rock 'n' roll would bring about the downfall of America unless we joined the John Birch Society.

The country is awash in Commies and Sinners. The End Times are upon us. Again.

Sing a hymn. Say a prayer. And send a dollar for God's profit - Glenn.

The great American stupid goes on and on.

People died in Afghanistan today.

Equipment at a construction site for a new mosque in Tennessee was set on fire.

Americans continue to lose jobs and houses with little relief on the horizon.

The GOP plans to hold probes into possible impeachable offenses by the Obama Administration if they win the midterms. Or at least shut down government.

But hey, a

God bless America.

In the name of the Holy Trinity: Larry, Curly and Moe -

Amen.

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion/75-75/2826-the-great-american-stupid

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:lol

[angrydude]

...because the "smart" power in Washington is doing such an amazing job right now.

when you've lost the war of public opinion just call the other side stupid I guess.

[boutons_deux]

the "public opinion" worth winning isn't the BecKKK/pitbull bitch fringe.

The Repugs, and certainly not the BecKKK jerks have no concrete, practical proposals to get the country moving again.

Although I fully appreciate the "stimulus" money being spent by Tea Baggers on colonial/superhero costumes and sign-making materials, and travel costs to their public circle jerks and street theater. :lol

[DMX7]

Politics in the way 70 year old conservatives let out their inner child.

[Yonivore]

^Beck is by saying things like "black people don't own the civil rights movement" and "we started the civil rights movement"

who the fuck is "WE"?

fucking honkey!
Still don't see the comparison...

Blacks don't own the Civil Rights Movement. Without all American abolitionists and civil rights pioneers -- white, black, brown, etc... -- civil rights would have never been realized. Particularly since people like Robert "Sheets" Byrd existed.

My understanding is Beck specifically rejected any suggestion his "Restoring Honor" rally was intended to be compared to Martin Luther King and his "I Have a Dream" Speech from the same spot, decades ago.

[Yonivore]

I found about as many black people in this photo as I did in Sarah Palins stupid Mamma Grizzly video.
What do you suggest they do, take blacks hostage and make them attend?

That there were any blacks in attendance and, considering Martin Luther King's niece was a speaker, says more about blacks that chose not to attend that is does about the absence of blacks at the rally.

There was absolutely nothing keeping blacks from attending the rally.

[ChumpDumper]

My understanding is Beck specifically rejected any suggestion his "Restoring Honor" rally was intended to be compared to Martin Luther King and his "I Have a Dream" Speech from the same spot, decades ago.Then why from the same spot?

The same day?

And why keep invoking King if his rally had nothing to do with him?

[CuckingFunt]

Still don't see the comparison...

Blacks don't own the Civil Rights Movement. Without all American abolitionists and civil rights pioneers -- white, black, brown, etc... -- civil rights would have never been realized. Particularly since people like Robert "Sheets" Byrd existed.

And? I wasn't aware that the right to take credit for a movement was such a big part of the fight for civil rights.

I certainly wasn't aware that part of rededicating ourselves to civil rights would be pointing out yet another thing blacks don't own.


My understanding is Beck specifically rejected any suggestion his "Restoring Honor" rally was intended to be compared to Martin Luther King and his "I Have a Dream" Speech from the same spot, decades ago.

You're absolutely correct. Glenn Beck did specifically, and vocally, reject that comparison. After scheduling his rally on the same date as King's speech, in the same location, repeatedly stating that it was born from his dedication to reinvesting in the concept of civil rights, and booking Dr. King's niece as a speaker, he did take the time to clarify that he'd be standing a few steps down.

[DMX7]

What do you suggest they do, take blacks hostage and make them attend?

That there were any blacks in attendance and, considering Martin Luther King's niece was a speaker, says more about blacks that chose not to attend that is does about the absence of blacks at the rally.

There was absolutely nothing keeping blacks from attending the rally.

Beck is a clown who has called Obama a racist and a subscriber to Liberation Theology. I doubt the inauthenticity of Beck's self-promoting message resonates with black people, mostly just with his "fans".

[DMX7]

Then why from the same spot?

The same day?

And why keep invoking King if his rally had nothing to do with him?

Same spot? No, he was "several" steps down. :lol

[Yonivore]

Beck is a clown who has called Obama a racist and a subscriber to Liberation Theology. I doubt the inauthenticity of Beck's self-promoting message resonates with black people, mostly just with his "fans".
I think you're wrong and, that's okay.

Obama is a racist (called his own grandmother a "typical white woman," and sitting in the pews of a church ran by a liberation theologian -- for 20 years -- pretty much leaves it up to him to disprove.

[ChumpDumper]

I think you're wrong and, that's okay.

Obama is a racist (called his own grandmother a "typical white woman," and sitting in the pews of a church ran by a liberation theologian -- for 20 years -- pretty much leaves it up to him to disprove.Now disprove Beck is a clown.

[CuckingFunt]

I think you're wrong and, that's okay.

Obama is a racist (called his own grandmother a "typical white woman," and sitting in the pews of a church ran by a liberation theologian -- for 20 years -- pretty much leaves it up to him to disprove.

Only if you have a really lazy (and wrong) understanding of argument and the burden of proof.

[ChumpDumper]

Only if you have a really lazy (and wrong) understanding of argument and the burden of proof.He's lazy and wrong and doesn't understand and that's OK.

[DMX7]

Now disprove Beck is a clown.

“I’m a rodeo clown,” he said in an interview, adding with a coy smile, “It takes great skill.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/30/business/media/30beck.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I don't think Yoni doesn't understand. At this juncture I just think he is plain disingenous

[Yonivore]

Only if you have a really lazy (and wrong) understanding of argument and the burden of proof.
This isn't a court of law.

And, another point on the racism of Obama is his knee-jerk response to that incident at Harvard between the police and the black professor...who, by the way, is also a racist.

[Yonivore]

“I’m a rodeo clown,” he said in an interview, adding with a coy smile, “It takes great skill.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/30/business/media/30beck.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
Actually, if memory serves, Beck is a rodeo clown.

[ChumpDumper]

This isn't a court of law.

And, another point on the racism of Obama is his knee-jerk response to that incident at Harvard between the police and the black professor...who, by the way, is also a racist.Turns out, he was right. The police officer was out of line. It was a stupid arrest. You tried to make it look like the professor was going to kill everyone in the neighborhood. That was nice.


Actually, if memory serves, Beck is a rodeo clown.Beck is several types of clown.

[xrayzebra]

Throughout his career in Top 40 radio, Beck was known for his imitations of “black guy” characters and racist tropes. According to Beck’s former colleagues in the late 90s, this included mocking unarmed blacks shot and killed by white police officers.

http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/147951

Repugs, conservatives, right-wingers are fundamentally racist, and race warriors.

"no/small govt" and "anti-entitlement" strategies are euphemistic fog words for "anti-slavery-reparations".

The class war is both wealthy class vs non-wealthy class and white class vs non-white class. Same warriors and same targets in both wars.

Throw in the "Christian" fundamentalist/evangelist supremacists Christian class vs non-Christian class (BecKKK is a clinically ill egomaniac addictive asshole with a Messiah complex), and you have the complete recipe for the Repug/conservative hate stew.

^^^^^the rantings of an idiot. Good Lord, who let him out of the home,
much less near a computer.

[CuckingFunt]

This isn't a court of law.

Where did I say anything about a court of law? I think you're mistaking "burden of proof" for "proof beyond a reasonable doubt."

Like I said, very lazy and wrong understanding.


And, another point on the racism of Obama is his knee-jerk response to that incident at Harvard between the police and the black professor...who, by the way, is also a racist.

Acknowledging racism is not racism. Acknowledging the potential for racism, also, is not racism.

[Blackjack]

I think you're wrong and, that's okay.

Obama is a racist (called his own grandmother a "typical white woman," and sitting in the pews of a church ran by a liberation theologian -- for 20 years -- pretty much leaves it up to him to disprove.

Since this sounds a lot like Beck's view from a year ago, sans the suggestion of liberation theology, thought I'd relay an interview I just saw.

Beck regrets calling Obama a racist, said he misread or miscast Obama because he hadn't figured out his world view and how it was skewed from a liberation theology (i.e., oppressor/victim). Said he had a "big fat mouth."

[fraga]

This isn't a court of law.

And, another point on the racism of Obama is his knee-jerk response to that incident at Harvard between the police and the black professor...who, by the way, is also a racist.

Riiiiiiiiiight...because as we all know...racist people always love to sit down with the people in question and drink beer with them to settle their disputes...good job on that one...

[DarrinS]

Riiiiiiiiiight...because as we all know...racist people always love to sit down with the people in question and drink beer with them to settle their disputes...good job on that one...


I think those are exactly the kind of issues the most powerful man in the free world should inject himself into. That, and mosques built in lower Manhattan.

[fraga]

I think you missed the part about Obama not being a racist...

[boutons_deux]

mosques built in lower Manhattan."

It's not "mosk" (as many illiterate haters spell it), it's a community center with a prayer room, like the Muslim prayer room in the Pentagon.

[ChumpDumper]

Eh, it's a mosque.

What does that matter?

[DMX7]

It's a mosque/community center/terrorist training & worship center/victory shrine.

[DarrinS]

It's a mosque/community center/terrorist training & worship center/victory shrine.


Whatever it is, it's really accomplishing their mission. It's really a giant olive branch.

[admiralsnackbar]

Whatever it is, it's really accomplishing their mission. It's really a giant olive branch.

Do you blame the proposed builders, or the people who have a hair up their ass about Islam near ground zero being un-PC for the debacle?

As a side note, isn't it interesting that the majority of the people saying "they have the right, but it's in poor taste," are the same people who routinely complain about PC anything. Good times.

[ChumpDumper]

Whatever it is, it's really accomplishing their mission. It's really a giant olive branch.Your prejudice hasn't even given them a chance.

[DMX7]

Whatever it is, it's really accomplishing their mission. It's really a giant olive branch.

Why does it have to have an appeasing mission?

[Yonivore]

Why does it have to have an appeasing mission?
Because that's what the Imam claims.

[ChumpDumper]

Because that's what the Imam claims.So let him build it and see what happens.

What are you afraid of?

[Mikesatx]

The purpose of the rally was to find common ground. The message was centered on faith and each individuals personal relationship with God regardless of religious affiliation. the emphasis was on personal relationship. The country's politically outspoken typically represent the far left or the far right. Those that find themselves there are way beyond listening and so jaded in their views that there is not hope for compromise or common ground. The majority in this country are somewhere in the middle and simply want to make a life for themselves and their family and leave the country better than they found it.

Every issue becomes a blame game when the reality is the common theme of all fuck-ups (Katrina, BP Oil, Economic Crisis, Housing debacle, racism whatever) is government---- republican and democrat and instead of being leery of all government people want to immerse in the minutia and pull talking points from their favorite talking heads. Is it mind numbing to anyone else that we get Bush Sr. for four years Clinton for 8 Bush's son for 8 and if not for Obama Clinton's wife for 4-8? Potentially a near 30 year run where our country is led by two families. Both parties represented and yet you still don't hold your government accountable. This is percisely what more and more people feel and the energy isn't for republicans as much as it is for less government. It just so happens that the republicans talk about less gov. tthen the dems. The Oh' Damn moment for Washington will come when those affiliated with both parties come together and start the process of compromise and country first.

[Nbadan]

I usually don't post here because it seems threads start out as a good political discussions and about two posts in it becomes partasin name calling and finger pointing. So a little background...

Many of the veterans here are short-tempered when things that have already been proven false gets posted again and again....unfortunately, that happens frequently in GOP world...but things do get discussed...

[admiralsnackbar]

Many of the veterans here are short-tempered when things that have already been proven false gets posted again and again....unfortunately, that happens frequently in the world of parochial idealism...but things do get discussed...
fify

[Nbadan]

Glenn Beck is a pretty easy target, yet Nbadan has somehow made himself look even more ridiculous in this thread by over-swinging repeatedly. Pretty impressive.

As always, Sperminator has missed the point of this whole thread...this isn't just another rag on Beckkk thread...I mean, it would be hard to top the 'Glen Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990' thread ....but Beckkk, Rush and Hannity run the GOP now...ask Michael Steele..,,these people have never been vetted...

I betcha most people didn't know Beckkk is Mormon, so when he says things like Native Americans were once Jews.....well...makes more sense...

[Nbadan]

My only questions arise when I think, Okay, this is not SUPPOSED to be a republican/ Tea Party event, but restoring honor to the country, right? If that is the case then why was it only conservatives and Republicans who were invited to speak? Why was freedomworks out there selling t-shirts and registering voters? These are all things they have the right to do of course, but be up front about it. Some other questions that always pop up also, where were these "small government" people when the patriot act was first implemented? Where are the strict constitutionalists now that Arizona wants to implement thier own law (state Law) to trump (be it) a very week federal immigration policy? Where were the deficit hounds the last administration? The previous administration deliberatley did not put the wars on the books to make their spending not look so bad, but they spent money too. No Rally on the steps of the Lincoln memorial then. As a matter of fact, I remember being called Un American for even asking these questions then. Oh, and these folks all HATE bailouts right, Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't TARP implemented under the previous administration? Even when we did organize for a march or protest durring the last administration (not often, because Dems are the most unorganized group of people on the planet) we were not sponsored by a Major news network. The "lamestream media" barley even covered those protests out of fear that FOX would call them Left wing media.

These are all valid questions...but you see, there are no Republicans here who supported any of Bush's policies.....just a bunch of libertarians...

[admiralsnackbar]

These are all valid questions...but you see, there are no Republicans here who supported any of Bush's policies.....just a bunch of libertarians...

:lol So true.

[boutons_deux]

"common theme of all fuck-ups (Katrina, BP Oil, Economic Crisis, Housing debacle, racism whatever) is government"

So you've been suckered by St Ronnie's conservative propaganda "government is the problem". The only defense against corporate and capitalist predations is the government, as imperfect as it is.

"process of compromise and country first"

Magic Negro has been stupid and naive thinking he could find some compromise with the obstructionist, bad-faith, fuck-all-y'all Repugnants. And the Repugs have done everything they can to deepen and worsen and prolong the economic pain for political gain in November, putting the country "last".

The Dems' fault is repugnant weakness in pursuing something good and humanitarian for the country like health care reform, financial reform, while the Repugs consistently insist on letting the corps fuck over citizens, patients, employees, consumers, the environment through compromising the regulatory function of govt through willful negligence and incompetence, by deregulation (the freer the markets become, the more fucked we are).

[angrydude]

"common theme of all fuck-ups (Katrina, BP Oil, Economic Crisis, Housing debacle, racism whatever) is government"

So you've been suckered by St Ronnie's conservative propaganda "government is the problem". The only defense against corporate and capitalist predations is the government, as imperfect as it is.

"process of compromise and country first"

Magic Negro has been stupid and naive thinking he could find some compromise with the obstructionist, bad-faith, fuck-all-y'all Repugnants. And the Repugs have done everything they can to deepen and worsen and prolong the economic pain for political gain in November, putting the country "last".

The Dems' fault is repugnant weakness in pursuing something good and humanitarian for the country like health care reform, financial reform, while the Repugs consistently insist on letting the corps fuck over citizens, patients, employees, consumers, the environment through compromising the regulatory function of govt through willful negligence and incompetence, by deregulation (the freer the markets become, the more fucked we are).

The republicans haven't stopped much of anything anything.

Democrats can ram through whatever they want. They have the votes.

public opinion is the only thing slowing Obama....and not very well.

[Spurminator]

As always, Sperminator has missed the point of this whole thread...this isn't just another rag on Beckkk thread...I mean, it would be hard to top the 'Glen Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990' thread ....but Beckkk, Rush and Hannity run the GOP now...ask Michael Steele..,,these people have never been vetted...

I betcha most people didn't know Beckkk is Mormon, so when he says things like Native Americans were once Jews.....well...makes more sense...

The people who listen to Glenn Beck aren't going to suddenly start distrusting him if they find out he's Mormon. He tells them what they want to hear. If some haughty Liberal comes around telling them Beck is a Mormon, they're more likely to just use that as a badge of tolerance... "See, I don't judge people on their religion. I listen to Glenn Beck!"

You're reaching and whiffing.

[boutons_deux]

"republicans haven't stopped much of anything anything"

they gutted health care, they gutted CFPA, they gutted financial reform, killed climate bill, they killed a stimulus appropriately sized to the crisis, and their lobbyists will certainly screw the rule making of any weak legislation passed.

Dems don't have 60 votes in Senate, so they're dead there.

Magic Negro is playing compromise softball, while the Repugs play obstructionist hardball.

I'm sure MN will be impeached if the Repugs win both chambers, and there will be a shitstorm of witch-hunting, grid-locking Repug subpoenas.

[boutons_deux]

There WERE some blacks at the BecKKK faux religious clown show

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-best-anti-glenn-beck-signs-at-the-glenn-beck-r

[Spurminator]

There WERE some blacks at the BecKKK faux religious clown show

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-best-anti-glenn-beck-signs-at-the-glenn-beck-r

Well, 3 of those were okay... Given how ripe this rally was for satire I hope there were funnier signs than most of those.

[fraga]

There WERE some blacks at the BecKKK faux religious clown show

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-best-anti-glenn-beck-signs-at-the-glenn-beck-r

Mahahahaha...some of those were pretty good...

[boutons_deux]

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/beckevangelical.gif

Beck Blasts Obama’s ‘Perversion Of The Gospel,’ While Evangelicals Blast Beck’s ‘False Gospel’


At his “Restoring Honor” rally, rodeo clown-turned-televangelist Glenn Beck told his flock, “America today begins to turn back to God. For too long, this country has wandered in darkness.” Beck “sounded like Billy Graham,” according to Rev. Richard Land, a prominent Southern Baptist leader.

The next day, on Fox News, Beck morphed his purportedly “non-political” message into a stinging political missive against Obama, claiming the President’s worldview was shaped by “Marxism disguised as religion.” Beck attacked Obama as “a guy who understands the world through liberation theology, which is oppressor-and-victim.” “People aren’t recognizing his version of Christianity,” Beck added:

“You see, it’s all about victims and victimhood; oppressors and the oppressed; reparations, not repentance; collectivism, not individual salvation. I don’t know what that is, other than it’s not Muslim, it’s not Christian. It’s a perversion of the gospel of Jesus Christ as most Christians know it,” Beck said.

Ironically, while Beck is casting stones to undermine Obama’s faith, his own faith is one that many Christians view as a “perversion of the gospel of Jesus Christ.” Beck, a converted Mormon who had been raised in a Catholic home, has been attacked by many evangelicals who say he is not a Christian “because of his Mormon beliefs.” In fact, via Christian Newswire, here’s a press release that one evangelical group sent out during Saturday’s Beck rally:

Glenn Beck promotes a false gospel. However, many of his political ideas can help America. … Mormonism is not a Christian denomination but a cult of Christianity. … Many endorse false gospels including Mormonism.

Brannon Howse, a conservative writer and founder of Worldview Weekend, said, “While I applaud and agree with many of Glenn Beck’s conservative and constitutional views, that does not give me or any other Bible-believing Christian justification to compromise Biblical truth by spiritually joining Beck.”

“Jesus Christ’s Church has universally rejected Mormonism’s Anti-Trinitarian theology and its claim that mortals may become God,” David Shedlock, an evangelical blogger, wrote on a FreedomWorks forum earlier this month. “Beck asks Christian leaders to ‘put differences aside,’ but Beck himself daily peppers his broadcasts with Mormon distinctives because he cannot keep his beliefs to himself.”

As ThinkProgress previously noted, “Glenn Beck often speaks about faith on his radio show and Fox News program, but he almost never mentions his own faith — Mormonism.” Bill Keller, the leader of the world’s largest interactive Christian website, said earlier this year, Beck “lies to people” by trying to portray himself as a Christian. “The fact is, the beliefs of the satanic Mormon cult are totally inconsistent with Biblical Christianity,” Keller said. It’s politically convenient for Beck to be attacking Obama’s religion, while rarely ever mentioning his own.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/08/30/beck-mormon-rally/

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BecKKK is clinically mentally ill, and his followers are the same.
'

[clambake]

this country is fucked. look at all the people that came to hear glen beck.

i said "glen beck".

[DarrinS]

It's hilarious watching the left obsess over Beck and Palin.

I'm conservative and don't really care for either of them.

Why so obsessed?

[clambake]

It's hilarious watching the left obsess over Beck and Palin.

I'm conservative and don't really care for either of them.

Why so obsessed?


this country is fucked. look at all the people that came to hear glen beck.

i said "glen beck".

[jack sommerset]

Lot of folks flocked to Beck.

http://mit.zenfs.com/5/2010/08/beckrally2.jpg

[Darrin]

If there was a God, he'd take Glenn Beck right now. I might become Christian again if he took this blowhard today.

[jack sommerset]

If there was a God, he'd take Glenn Beck right now. I might become Christian again if he took this blowhard today.


LOL..... What one earth is the reason you want Glen Beck to die for!?!? That's weird dude.

[Darrin]

LOL..... What one earth is the reason you want Glen Beck to die for!?!? That's weird dude.

I just want him to go away. There's no redeeming value from this dialogue and it will cause hurt if people take up after him. It will hurt America. So in the way that you blink your eyes and pretend you've solved world peace, that's how I dreamed of a Glenn Beck that wasn't relevant beginning tomorrow.

[Spurminator]

Somebody else would step into his shoes.

He's just playing the role. We created the monster.

[Bartleby]

Somebody else would step into his shoes.

He's just playing the role. We created the monster.

^This.

And that person would/will be even more over the top than Beck.

[Nbadan]

The people who listen to Glenn Beck aren't going to suddenly start distrusting him if they find out he's Mormon. He tells them what they want to hear. If some haughty Liberal comes around telling them Beck is a Mormon, they're more likely to just use that as a badge of tolerance... "See, I don't judge people on their religion. I listen to Glenn Beck!"

You're reaching and whiffing.

You still to seem think that we live in a world were relatively matters in wing-nut world...it doesn't...that's why Mitt Romney, a Mormon, will never be President even though he is the best GOP candidate available.....anything other than Jewish or Christian matters, maybe not to you...but it matters...

...it especially matters when Glenn Beckkk is using his show to unwhittingly preach Mormon theology

[Spurminator]

You still to seem think that we live in a world were relatively matters in wing-nut world...it doesn't...that's why Mitt Romney, a Mormon, will never be President even though he is the best GOP candidate available.....anything other than Jewish or Christian matters, maybe not to you...but it matters...

...it especially matters when Glenn Beckkk is using his show to unwhittingly preach Mormon theology

I never said Glenn Beck could be President.

Unless Beck starts using his show to talk about Joseph Smith and tablets and Christ in South America or whatever, his listeners don't care. And if he does, and he loses listeners, they'll move on to another scare-monger who tells them what they want to hear and plays off their prejudices and fears.

Meanwhile you're playing the same kind of prejudicial religion card that's driving the "wing nuts" to get lathered up about mosques. You're no different or better. And with a target like Beck it doesn't require that kind of bullshit. Wise up. Grow up. Evolve. Be better.

[Nbadan]

I never said Glenn Beck could be President.

Unless Beck starts using his show to talk about Joseph Smith and tablets and Christ in South America or whatever, his listeners don't care. And if he does, and he loses listeners, they'll move on to another scare-monger who tells them what they want to hear and plays off their prejudices and fears.

Meanwhile you're playing the same kind of prejudicial religion card that's driving the "wing nuts" to get lathered up about mosques. You're no different or better. And with a target like Beck it doesn't require that kind of bullshit. Wise up. Grow up. Evolve. Be better.

Same ole small-minded Sperminator....unlike the 'wing-nuts lathered up about the mosques' I have posted that this is not a reflection of many modern-day Mormons... but.....fundamentalism is fundamentalism...and Glenn Beckkk has shown that his beliefs reflect many of the beliefs of the Mormon church that once believed there is a race that is destined to be Gods over every one else...

....your a fool if you believe that people like Glenn Beckkk are not a threat to all our safety and our country's future...the signs are there...the hate-mongering is there...the anger is there...same as the Nazi used..

[Nbadan]

I just want him to go away. There's no redeeming value from this dialogue and it will cause hurt if people take up after him. It will hurt America. So in the way that you blink your eyes and pretend you've solved world peace, that's how I dreamed of a Glenn Beck that wasn't relevant beginning tomorrow.

No doubt....people have already been killed and many more people will be killed....guys like Beckkk should be held liable when one of his wing-nuts finally does strike and it can't just be brushed aside anymore by the M$M as another one of those 'isolated incidents'....

[Nbadan]

sig-worthy..

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[Nbadan]

You Feeling the love Yet?

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[Nbadan]

http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/news/tease/2010/08/27/0828_The_Lincoln_Memorial.jpg

[Nbadan]

http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/HarviV/2010/HarviV20100830_low.jpg

[Nbadan]

You wonder why Beck is relentlessly promoted as a spokesman on Christian values even though he is Mormon? Maybe because he is pushing a vision of Christianity that turns its back on social justice and the poor. Still, no one really mentioned this fact during the recent coverage of the Beck at Lincoln Memorial:


Glenn Beck has stirred the pot again, but President Obama can rest easy for a few days because he was not the central target this time.

Backers of the concept of Christian "social justice," however, were not so lucky. Beck compared it to communism and Nazism -- and at least one religious leader is calling for Christians to stop watching the conservative broadcaster, radio host and best-selling author.

On his radio and television shows, Beck suggested any church promoting "social justice" or "economic justice" merely was using code words for Nazism and communism.

"I beg you look for the words social justice or economic justice on your church Web site," he said. "If you find it, run as fast as you can. Social justice and economic justice, they are code words. ... Am I advising people to leave their church? Yes!

ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/WN/glenn-beck-social-justice-christians-rage-back-nazism/story?id=10085008)

Sperminator: "Move along folks, nothing to see here!"

[Nbadan]

Restoring honor...

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[angrydude]

those political cartoons convinced me.

[Spurminator]

Same ole small-minded Sperminator....unlike the 'wing-nuts lathered up about the mosques' I have posted that this is not a reflection of many modern-day Mormons... but.....fundamentalism is fundamentalism...and Glenn Beckkk has shown that his beliefs reflect many of the beliefs of the Mormon church that once believed there is a race that is destined to be Gods over every one else...

....your a fool if you believe that people like Glenn Beckkk are not a threat to all our safety and our country's future...the signs are there...the hate-mongering is there...the anger is there...same as the Nazi used..

:lol You're just as bad as Glenn Beck. You just don't have the audience.

And thank God for that.

[DarrinS]

Compare Beck rally with Sharpton rallies. Past and present.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/video-glenn%e2%80%99s-disgrace-shocking-racism-at-al-sharptons-mlk-anniversary/

[clambake]

sharpton has the redeeming value of glen beck.

what compelled you to bring him up?

[Oh, Gee!!]

“America today begins to turn back to God. For too long, this country has wandered in darkness.”

The only thing that's going to bring us into the light is gold: precious, precious gold. So here's what you need to do: call my good friends at goldline, and they'll tell you all about how gold will propel this country back to its rightful as master of the universe.

[ChumpDumper]

Compare Beck rally with Sharpton rallies. Past and present.Why?

[Spurminator]

Because you have to pick a team, that's why.

[DarkReign]

Political Forum roolz.

On topic, I was mildly surprised Mr. Beck brought that many people to Washington DC.

It really is harrowing to think how many people really, really listen to talking heads on TV as authority figures. Enough to bring people from all corners to the capitol to...

ummm....

huh....?

What the fuck were they doing, again?

[Yonivore]

Political Forum roolz.

On topic, I was mildly surprised Mr. Beck brought that many people to Washington DC.

It really is harrowing to think how many people really, really listen to talking heads on TV as authority figures. Enough to bring people from all corners to the capitol to...

ummm....

huh....?

What the fuck were they doing, again?
They'll be voting in November and some have suggested that, for every 1 that attended this past weekend, there are 25-30 more that will be voting just like them.

That's what they were doing.

Ask Russ Feingold, Arlen Spector, and that Jan Murkowski (sp?) what they were doing.

[ChumpDumper]

What the fuck were they doing, again?Not being political, that's for sure!

[clambake]

They'll be voting in November and some have suggested that, for every 1 that attended this past weekend, there are 25-30 more that will be voting just like them.

That's what they were doing.

Ask Russ Feingold, Arlen Spector, and that Jan Murkowski (sp?) what they were doing.

guiding the herd. how original.

[Yonivore]

guiding the herd. how original.
Whatever takes Congress away from the Democrats and RINOs.

[ChumpDumper]

They'll be voting in November and some have suggested that, for every 1 that attended this past weekend, there are 25-30 more that will be voting just like them.

That's what they were doing.

Ask Russ Feingold, Arlen Spector, and that Jan Murkowski (sp?) what they were doing.Yep, it wasn't political at all!

[boutons_deux]

"Whatever takes Congress away from the Democrats and RINOs."

What are the Repugs going to do when they get control?

[ChumpDumper]

What are the Repugs going to do when they get control?Run up the debt more.

[Stringer_Bell]

Not being political, that's for sure!

Not political? It was the worst display of politics this country has seen in awhile. "America has turned away from God, let's go back to God"...which means those people are being instructed to vote for Republicans cuz Demonrats know nothing of God. Beck might as well have said "Fuck the seperation of Church and State. Iran's got religious nutters running their government, so we should too! It's the only way we can compete!"

I'm not impressed by the Beck Rally numbers at all, Bush was re-elected to a 2nd term so it doesn't surprise me that 100,000 idiots can be lead along to DC for a shitty pep rally. Plus, he didn't say anything new and it hasn't resonated through the country like MLK's speech.

[ChumpDumper]

Dude, honor was restored.

[DMX7]

So was Beck's bank account.

[DarrinS]

Political Forum roolz.

On topic, I was mildly surprised Mr. Beck brought that many people to Washington DC.

It really is harrowing to think how many people really, really listen to talking heads on TV as authority figures. Enough to bring people from all corners to the capitol to...

ummm....

huh....?

What the fuck were they doing, again?



I don't know, but did you notice how many <gasp> WHITE people were there??!!! You NEVER see this many white people in one place, unless you count enivonmental rallies, pro-gay rallies, anti-war rallies, or the anchors at CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and NBC.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't know, but did you notice how many <gasp> WHITE people were there??!!! You NEVER see this many white people in one place, unless you count enivonmental rallies, pro-gay rallies, anti-war rallies, or the anchors at CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and NBC.What were all those white people doing there?

[Stringer_Bell]

What were all those white people doing there?

Obviously, they were restoring honor.

[MannyIsGod]

I don't know, but did you notice how many <gasp> WHITE people were there??!!! You NEVER see this many white people in one place, unless you count enivonmental rallies, pro-gay rallies, anti-war rallies, or the anchors at CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and NBC.

Race card!

[clambake]

Race card!

from the birther lol

[DarrinS]

Race card!

diversity

http://www.olbermannwatch.com/images/whitemsnbc.jpg

[MannyIsGod]

diversity

http://www.olbermannwatch.com/images/whitemsnbc.jpg

Race card!

[Spurminator]

Darrin's gone full troll. Guess it was inevitable.

[DarrinS]

Race card!


Manny,


Why don't they say how there are mostly whites at anti-war rallies, environmental rallies, pro-gay rallies, G20 protests, etc?

[DarrinS]

Thread title


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[jack sommerset]

diversity

http://www.olbermannwatch.com/images/whitemsnbc.jpg

LoL

[clambake]

racist birther!

[MannyIsGod]

Manny,


Why don't they say how there are mostly whites at anti-war rallies, environmental rallies, pro-gay rallies, G20 protests, etc?

Race Card!

[jack sommerset]

Sharpton got around 3,000 for his anti-Beck rally. Civil rights working hard these days.

[EVAY]

Not being political, that's for sure!

:rollin:rollin

[Nbadan]

Mormon code words in glenn beckkk's new book...

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