What are your views on the Amish?

[dimsah]

Without research, how do you view the Amish people and their cultural, religious lifestyle?

A lot of you that don't know about them or may have never even seen an Amish person before. What is your take?

[Trainwreck2100]

they shouldn't be allowed to raise a barn in ground zero

[EmptyMan]

^^lmao, well-played sir

[DarrinS]

If an extremist group of Amish murdered 3000 Americans in the name of the Amish, I wouldn't want them to raise a barn in that location.

[ChuckD]

I think Fundamental Christendom should follow their example and sequester themselves from the society that they clearly loathe. At some point, if they don't inbreed too badly, they might realize that the tail clearly does NOT wag the dog.

[DarrinS]

I think Fundamental Christendom should follow their example and sequester themselves from the society that they clearly loathe. At some point, if they don't inbreed too badly, they might realize that the tail clearly does NOT wag the dog.



Strangely enough, a country founded on those principles is the country that provides the most opportunity and the most freedom in the world.

You fail.

[Parker2112]

Strangely enough, a country founded on those principles is the country that provides the most opportunity and the most freedom in the world.

You fail.

This country was founded on the principles of
RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. FREEDOM FROM DICKHEADS LIKE YOURSELF IN ENGLAND WHO WANTED TO IMPOSE A SINGLE FAITH ON ALL CITIZENS.
LEARN HISTORY.

[JoeChalupa]

There is a small Amish community in Ohio between Defiance and Ft. Wayne, In that my brother and I used to drive through all time when we'd go out for a country drive and burn some hippie lettuce. Never had a problem with them and they helped us out when our car broke down. Very nice people.

[Blackjack]

They've got some quality bowlers.

[Winehole23]

If an extremist group of Amish murdered 3000 Americans in the name of the Amish, I wouldn't want them to raise a barn in that location.That's fucken retarded.

[Winehole23]

Do we prevent Christians from raising churches in OKC?

[Winehole23]

Timothy McVeigh, extremist Christian, yea or nay?

[DarrinS]

Timothy McVeigh -- anti-govt

[ChuckD]

Timothy McVeigh -- anti-govt

ObL -- anti-govt

[ChuckD]

Strangely enough, a country founded on those principles is the country that provides the most opportunity and the most freedom in the world.

You fail.

The primary scribe and composer of American documents of import like the Declaration and the Constitution was Jefferson. He was FAR more influenced by John Locke than by God the Father or Jesus. Locke was the first English speaking voice to advocate separation of Church and State.

Christianity propaganda fail.

[DarrinS]

The primary scribe and composer of American documents of import like the Declaration and the Constitution was Jefferson. He was FAR more influenced by John Locke than by God the Father or Jesus. Locke was the first English speaking voice to advocate separation of Church and State.

Christianity propaganda fail.


Was our country founded on Judeo-Christian values or not?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judeo-Christian





"In our country, ‘Judeo-Christian values’ is shorthand for a complex idea: the common culture of the American majority. The values are called Judeo-Christian because they derive from the complementary ideas of free will, the moral accountability of the individual rather than the group, the spiritual imperative of imperfect man’s struggle to do what is right and the existence of true moral law in the teachings of Christ and the Jewish prophets. Along with the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, they are the political and cultural heritage of the Founding Fathers. The declaration and the Constitution define the source and the limits of state power. But they do not tell us how a moral life within this society should be led. While they have provided a durable structure for America’s success, only Judeo-Christian values, freely held by the majority, explain its continuing realization. These values are not identical with the Christian religion, although they manifest its universal insights. Americans, as the Founding Fathers hoped, uphold the Constitution, but live according to “Judeo-Christian values."

[DarrinS]

This country was founded on the principles of
RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. FREEDOM FROM DICKHEADS LIKE YOURSELF IN ENGLAND WHO WANTED TO IMPOSE A SINGLE FAITH ON ALL CITIZENS.
LEARN HISTORY.


You suck at this.

[admiralsnackbar]

You suck at this.

Run along and get us a youtube, nitwit.

[DarrinS]

Run along and get us a youtube, nitwit.


Such thought-provoking posts. Are you friends with ChumpDumper and Manny?

[admiralsnackbar]

Such thought-provoking posts. Are you friends with ChumpDumper and Manny?

:lol What do you ever post that competes? Youtubes and regurgitation. Shit's inspiring.

[Winehole23]

Timothy McVeigh -- anti-govtDo you recall why Tim McVeigh was anti-government?

[ChumpDumper]

Darrin thinks Christian Identity has something to do with his driver's license.

[Winehole23]

Wonder if he recalls McVeigh's remarks about the timing and his motives. They were not unrelated to his creed.

[DarrinS]

Do you recall why Tim McVeigh was anti-government?

Waco

[admiralsnackbar]

Waco

Is that why he aped The Turner Diaries?

[Blackjack]

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[LnGrrrR]

If an extremist group of Amish murdered 3000 Americans in the name of the Amish, I wouldn't want them to raise a barn in that location.

It's ok DarrinS, we know you're a scaredy-cat.

[ChumpDumper]

Are the Amish pit bulls or maybe some kind of shepherd?

[SnakeBoy]

Are the Amish pit bulls or maybe some kind of shepherd?

Is that a reference to the Amish love of running puppy mills or something?

[Stringer_Bell]

My impression of the Amish is that they are frugal and pragmatic. They don't bother the outside world and the outside world doesn't bother them.

Did they do something wrong? :(

[dimsah]

My impression of the Amish is that they are frugal and pragmatic. They don't bother the outside world and the outside world doesn't bother them.

Did they do something wrong? :(

Not at all. I was just curious what people who may have had no interaction with them thought. I was also a little drunk when I made the thread.

I live in an area with a large concentration of Amish. I have Amish neighbors directly to the east and to the north of me. Very nice, extremely hard working folks.

[LnGrrrR]

I vacationed in Pennsylvania one time and sat down to an Amish supper. My family and a bunch of people we didn't know all sat around a giant table, and I had the best meal of my life there. I ate so much I had trouble standing, and learned that I love apple butter. Got no problem with the Amish.

[jack sommerset]

Not the brightest people.

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[Bartleby]

They're reserved but generally nice. If you need carpentry or roof work they're top notch.

[Jacob1983]

I'm not an expert on the Amish but I met some a long time when my family and I were on vacation in Iowa. They were nice and friendly to us. They gave us a jar of honey.

[101A]

Profoundly hard working - and paternalistic. Was just in Smicksburg, Pa this past Saturday - where I picked up a dresser I ordered from a young Amish man starting his own furniture shop (in the past I have bought some stuff from his uncle). Both he, and his uncle are very friendly, the older generation being more stand-offish - they are also trusting. After just a couple of meetings, the Uncle sent one of his children with me and my wife in our car to show us where a neighbor of his had a finishing shop.

Also, they do not completely e shew technology; the men's workshops are VERY nice; table saws/routers/planers/jointers/drum sanders - you name it, they've got it. The only catch is; No electricity; their tools look like any other modern, high-end furniture grade stuff; but it is all run off of belts from an elaborate network over head; the belts are driven by motors (gas, kerosene or diesel). For the women? No such luck; everything in the kitchen is by hand, old school - and pretty much a bazillion children running around everywhere; who all look pretty much alike; nuclear family relation or not; there does not appear to be a very diverse gene pool in any given Amish community. The men will ALWAYS wave from their buggies as they pass you; the women seldom look up. And although they don't use technology; they are very aware of it; recognized my Blackberry, and asked which model it was, for instance.

Generally I have respect for the Amish as a people; however, as Christians, they seem to have forgotten the Great Commission entirely.

[Blake]

Generally I have respect for the Amish as a people; however, as Christians, they seem to have forgotten the Great Commission entirely.

so are they going to hell or is it that their reward in heaven will not be as great?

[Blackjack]

Not the brightest people.

8DsN36mz_PA

That's quite the hatchet job on the Amish, presenting someone as Amish who wasn't.

Munson was a lot of things: bowler, prosthetic-wearer, degenerate, my hero ... but he wasn't Amish.

[Phenomanul]

so are they going to hell or is it that their reward in heaven will not be as great?

"A city on a hill cannot be hidden"...

While I would agree with the comment that their approach almost completely desregards "The Great Comission"... I would likely add that their lifestyles are "beacons of virtue" in and of themselves.

Besides, no matter how 'good' we claim to be, or how we choose to perceive ourselves against others... ultimately, none of our works gain us access into the FATHER's presence, only Christ's blood...

[Blake]

Besides, no matter how 'good' we claim to be, or how we choose to perceive ourselves against others... ultimately, none of our works gain us access into the FATHER's presence, only Christ's blood...

So if a murderer repents of his sins on death row, he will get into Heaven...

but a charity worker donating his/her life to help feed and clothe starving people in Africa will go to hell because they didn't accept Christ as their personal savior.

Yay Christianity. :tu

[LnGrrrR]

So if a murderer repents of his sins on death row, he will get into Heaven...

but a charity worker donating his/her life to help feed and clothe starving people in Africa will go to hell because they didn't accept Christ as their personal savior.

Yay Christianity. :tu

But that's why he put the "good" in quotation marks. Sure, that charity worker THINKS she's doing good, but unless it's in Jesus's name, it's not truly good, just "good".

[lefty]

They are Aliens


At least that's what they implied in that old X-Files episode

[Blake]

But that's why he put the "good" in quotation marks. Sure, that charity worker THINKS she's doing good, but unless it's in Jesus's name, it's not truly good, just "good".

right, because "good" in Christianity means belief in Jesus dying for our sins.

charity work is just "meh"

[Winehole23]

Grace not works

[Winehole23]

Works might be a sign of election but are not effective payment in the Protestant scheme.