Spanoulis and Javtokas in FIBA World Championships

[rvman21]

I have been watching the games on NBA TV and both these players are playing pretty damn good Javtokas had some good moves against USA and Spanoulis led his team to victory tonight against Argentina (both good teams), Does anyone think that the Spurs should at least invite these guys to camp? According to Wikipedia the Spurs could still bring Javtokas over. One of them might be a diamond in the rough. The Spurs should be looking at every resource possible IMO

[eisfeld]

Erm... what are you talking about? Argentina is in Group A and Greece in Group C so how the hell could Greece have beaten Argentina tonight?

Ans seriously: No, No and No. Javtokas is old and done. V-Span is a jerk who will never play in the NBA again.

[admiralsnackbar]

Dunno about VSpan, but Javtokas is under contract with Valencia for the next 2 years.

[ElNono]

Spanoulis led his team to victory tonight against Argentina (both good teams)

You mean Puerto Rico? Argentina is still undefeated.

[Sean Cagney]

No, they will never be here, period.

[jason1301]

V-Span will never return to the NBA, what a shame... JVG is an IDIOT he pretty much ruined it for him. I still think he would look good in Spurs uniform but he decided to play for Panathinaikos... I mean can you blame him? More money, more titles, more playing time.

[admiralsnackbar]

Not to mention more economic catastrophe.

[will_spurs]

V-Span will never return to the NBA, what a shame... JVG is an IDIOT he pretty much ruined it for him. I still think he would look good in Spurs uniform but he decided to play for Panathinaikos... I mean can you blame him? More money, more titles, more playing time.

More money maybe. More titles, well he won it all in Greece/Euroleague in 2007, and the Spurs won the NBA... so at best it's a wash. More playing time: he was well known to have had very limited PT in Greece, so that doesn't hold either (e.g. averaging 2.6 points and 1.6 rbds when his team won the 2007 Euroleague...)

He sniffed greatness but decided to be a loser.

[TDMVPDPOY]

watever is left of the MLE, should went and sign rasho who signed something similar in that range...

[21_Blessings]

sniffed greatness but decided to be a loser.

Kind of like the current state of Spurs basketball.

[Dalamar_the_Dark]

Both these players would never have made it in the NBA. One was a wuss and the other a wreck due to injuries.

[Obstructed_View]

Jav pre-inury was an egotistical jerk, post-injury lacks physical ability to make an impact. VSpan would be lucky to crack the rotation on any NBA team.

[hater]

Temple >>> Vaginis

Bonner >>> Robertas

[elbamba]

I don't think Javtokas has played much since the games that count started. He did well in the exhibition game against USA.

[DAF86]

Jav pre-inury was an egotistical jerk, post-injury lacks physical ability to make an impact. VSpan would be lucky to crack the rotation on any NBA team.

Spanoulis has starert (maybe even all-star) talent, but he clearly had some adapting problems that didn't allow him to settle in the NBA.

[jason1301]

More money maybe. More titles, well he won it all in Greece/Euroleague in 2007, and the Spurs won the NBA... so at best it's a wash. More playing time: he was well known to have had very limited PT in Greece, so that doesn't hold either (e.g. averaging 2.6 points and 1.6 rbds when his team won the 2007 Euroleague...)

He sniffed greatness but decided to be a loser.

He just signed a new contract making him the highest paid player in Europe! Since he left the NBA has won 4 titles --including the Euroleague in 09-- spurs have won zero. He never averaged 2.6 pts ad 1.6 rebs and he plays consistenly 25-30min per night.

[ChumpDumper]

He just signed a new contract making him the highest paid player in Europe! Since he left the NBA has won 4 titles --including the Euroleague in 09-- spurs have won zero. He never averaged 2.6 pts ad 1.6 rebs and he plays consistenly 25-30min per night.Right. He found his level.

Below the NBA.

Good for him.

[Obstructed_View]

Spanoulis has starert (maybe even all-star) talent, but he clearly had some adapting problems that didn't allow him to settle in the NBA.

Funny, they said the same thing about Jasikevicius....

Spanoulis has Euroleague talent, but he can't cut it in the NBA, something he's proven already. Van Gundy gets way too much blame for not playing a guy who couldn't play.

[Bruno]

Spatula sucks.

[8FOR!3]

He just signed a new contract making him the highest paid player in Europe! Since he left the NBA has won 4 titles --including the Euroleague in 09-- spurs have won zero. He never averaged 2.6 pts ad 1.6 rebs and he plays consistenly 25-30min per night.

JaMarcus Russell was the highest paid player in football for some time. I don't wanna hear it.

[TDMVPDPOY]

that greek shit probably thinks his a franchise player probably explains why the constant pms

[GSH]

Damn! Don't put Spanoulis in the title of a thread. That's just going to attract a KillBillPana infestation. It's like dropping a cookie next to an ant bed - somehow the pests know about it immediately.

Somebody above suggested that Spanoodless could be an all-star in the NBA. Maybe in some alternate universe. In this universe, Spanoodless is a slightly better version of Blake Ahearn.

Javtokas displayed the potential to possibly be a mediocre center in the NBA. Until he got run over on a motorcycle. But give credit where it's due - he has been a standout in the Lithuanian League.

[temujin]

Fans of a team that just decided to hand out 50 millions to perennial losers Jefferson and Bonner looking down on Spanoulis.

Interesting.

[pad300]

Damn! Don't put Spanoulis in the title of a thread. That's just going to attract a KillBillPana infestation. It's like dropping a cookie next to an ant bed - somehow the pests know about it immediately.

Somebody above suggested that Spanoodless could be an all-star in the NBA. Maybe in some alternate universe. In this universe, Spanoodless is a slightly better version of Blake Ahearn.

Javtokas displayed the potential to possibly be a mediocre center in the NBA. Until he got run over on a motorcycle. But give credit where it's due - he has been a standout in the Lithuanian League.

IMO, both are forget about it at this point; they are both too old. However, as hypotheticals, I think you are understimating what Javtokas could have brought. While he was never a brilliant player, even after the accident he was really quite athletic. I think he would have been a better fit in the NBA, rather than in the Euro leagues (just as Spanoulis is clearly a better fit in the euro leagues). Think Francisco Elson brains and athleticism, but with an extra 30 lbs of muscle. That's considerably beyond mediocre in the NBA...

Now, of course, he's never coming over. What might have been...

[GSH]

Fans of a team that just decided to hand out 50 millions to perennial losers Jefferson and Bonner looking down on Spanoulis.

Interesting.


This from the person who said that Jefferson would be earning $100K, and wouldn't get any minutes, if he were playing on a Euro team? :nope

The same person who said that Cosic was the best passing big man in Euro history? :nope (Ever heard of Arvydis Sabonis?)

The same person who said that Tony Parker has lost most of his speed and is washed up? :nope

Are you one of the incarnations of KBP?

Interesting.

[Obstructed_View]

Fans of a team that just decided to hand out 50 millions to perennial losers Jefferson and Bonner looking down on Spanoulis.

Interesting.

That should tell you how turrible he is.

[temujin]

This from the person who said that Jefferson would be earning $100K, and wouldn't get any minutes, if he were playing on a Euro team? :nope

The same person who said that Cosic was the best passing big man in Euro history? :nope (Ever heard of Arvydis Sabonis?)

The same person who said that Tony Parker has lost most of his speed and is washed up? :nope

Are you one of the incarnations of KBP?

Interesting.

1) I was optimistic about Jefferson being worth 100K. Ask hairston. And he certainly wouldn't play significant minutes with must-win Euro coaches (Messina, Ivanovic, Gershon, Scariolo, Obradovic).
2) I have SEEN Cosic and Sabonis. I reinstate Cosic was the best passing big man. And certainly more intelligent. I bet you have seen neither.
3) After 12 (TWELVE) ankle injuries, even you would have slowed down. I never wrote PArker is "washed up".

KBP was a character, but he wasn't wrong all the time.

[Zocalo]

Spanoulis is absolute trash. He went home because he missed his mommy and pouted like a little bitch.

Flat out... he is a bucket of suckitude.

[Hooks]

Spanoulis is absolute trash. He went home because he missed his mommy and pouted like a little bitch.

Flat out... he is a bucket of suckitude.


But he is Greek Kobe! lol, I bet KBP wants to post on here so badly.

[Obstructed_View]

KBP stated that VSpan is really good at losing in thread on the NBA forum. I think he's starting to see the light.

[objective]

Javtokas has improved since he rolled his ankle in the first game, he's playing more now.

It's Javtokas VS Ian today at 1:00.

[Mark in Austin]

V-Span will never return to the NBA, what a shame... JVG is an IDIOT he pretty much ruined it for him.

Saying the whole Spanoulis thing was Van Gundy's fault is such bullshit. So he though JVG treated him bad. Get over it. He was traded to a team that has a great reputation for international players. Spanoulis didn't want to play for the Spurs because a coach on another team was mean to him? Get the fuck out of here.

Oh wait. He did.

Bottom line: Spanoulis either:

1. Was too butthurt from how "mean" JVG was to him that he decided that all NBA coaches / teams would treat him the same. (Assuming he was treated poorly by JVG.) If this was the case, the Spurs were better off without such an emotionally fragile player.

2. Wasn't willing to put in the work to earn significant minutes with the Spurs. If this was the case the Spurs were better off without such a lazy, unmotivated player.

3. Realized that even if he worked hard, he wasn't going to be good enough to play competitively in the NBA for more than garbage minutes. If this was the case the Spurs were better off without a player whose skills aren't right for the NBA.

4. Was actually just homesick and even though he could have suceeded in the NBA decided he wanted to go home. If this was the case see item #1.

[DaDakota]

Spanoulis has NBA talent, but his mind was never right, he did get screwed by JVG, heck I was so glad the Rockets fired him, he was so controlling and never ever played young guys we kept running out Rafer Alston, or some other Knicks reject instead of developing our talent.

Regarding VSpan though, he is a great athlete for Greece and average one for the NBA...he has a history of jumping in the air with nowhere to go, he would have had to adapt his game because of the speed of the NBA.

Instead, he wanted to be a big fish in a small pond, can't really blame him, but he can get away with his normal moves over there and not develop.

I liked him as a rookie but now watching the worlds, he has not developed at all.....no way would I take him at this point, he is too set in his ways and not good enough for the NBA.

DD

[jason1301]

Spanoulis has NBA talent, but his mind was never right, he did get screwed by JVG, heck I was so glad the Rockets fired him, he was so controlling and never ever played young guys we kept running out Rafer Alston, or some other Knicks reject instead of developing our talent.

Regarding VSpan though, he is a great athlete for Greece and average one for the NBA...he has a history of jumping in the air with nowhere to go, he would have had to adapt his game because of the speed of the NBA.

Instead, he wanted to be a big fish in a small pond, can't really blame him, but he can get away with his normal moves over there and not develop.

I liked him as a rookie but now watching the worlds, he has not developed at all.....no way would I take him at this point, he is too set in his ways and not good enough for the NBA.

DD

quoted for truth!

When he was traded to the Spurs, I personally sent him an email explaining him how the Spur's system fits him better --I happen to know a few players form he Greek national team, and from what I heard; He wasn't really happy with the way JVG treated him, or living in Houston --Athens is a special city, you either love it or hate it. But what sealed the deal for him (to return to Greece and Panathinaikos) was his team wonning the triple crown that year w/o him. Up to today only a few teams were able to do that --winning all the three titles in one year.

Instead of bashing this guy, try to put yourself in his shoes for a second and it makes sense why he left the NBA.

[Mark in Austin]

quoted for truth!

He wasn't really happy with the way JVG treated him, or living in Houston --

Instead of bashing this guy, try to put yourself in his shoes for a second and it makes sense why he left the NBA.


What does that have to do with the Spurs? How he was treated by JVG has nothing to do with how he would be treated by Pop - unless deep down he knows that JVG wasn't playing him because he hadn't EARNED the minutes and he knew Pop would be the same - everybody is held accountable in San Antonio.

This guy wanted NBA playing time but wasn't willing to put in the work to EARN it. As a Spurs fan, I'll bash that every time somebody tries to argue that it is somehow acceptable.

Honestly, Spanoulis fans want it both ways. On the one hand they say he's good enough to play in the NBA, but on the other they never stop making excuses for why he's not IN the NBA. And the biggest excuse? That a coach was too mean to him? Are you fucking kidding me?

The other excuse - that he missed Greece. If he was homesick, fine. But going home means he didn't make it in the NBA. He gave up. For him playing at home was a higher priority than playing at the highest level. There's nothing wrong with that if that's what he wanted. BUT that means he didn't make it in the NBA. Why does is that so hard for some fans to accept? It seems like Spanoulis has accepted it.

[GSH]

I liked him as a rookie but now watching the worlds, he has not developed at all.....no way would I take him at this point, he is too set in his ways and not good enough for the NBA.



Since you're a Rockets fan, I'm going to tread lightly. Many of the Spurs fans here (myself included) have been guilty of liking a new player too much.

I think you nailed it. Spanoulis had some skills and looked like he had potential. But what you're seeing from him in the worlds is exactly what Van Gundy saw in Houston - a player that isn't NBA caliber.

If you remember, Spanoulis started pouting all the way back in pre-season, when he didn't get the minutes he thought he deserved. And from what I understood, he kept trying to show Van Gundy up. I'm the first one to say that JVG is a tool, but I don't blame him for sitting Spanoulis. V-Span didn't do anything to make himself better, or to be part of the team. And running back to Greece didn't make him a better player, either.

But even if I'm selling Spanoulis short, there's no way he ever had star quality in the NBA. Maybe he could have played here, but he wasn't going to be a top-tier guard like some of the Greek fans claim.

[jason1301]

What does that have to do with the Spurs? How he was treated by JVG has nothing to do with how he would be treated by Pop - unless deep down he knows that JVG wasn't playing him because he hadn't EARNED the minutes and he knew Pop would be the same - everybody is held accountable in San Antonio.

This guy wanted NBA playing time but wasn't willing to put in the work to EARN it. As a Spurs fan, I'll bash that every time somebody tries to argue that it is somehow acceptable.

Honestly, Spanoulis fans want it both ways. On the one hand they say he's good enough to play in the NBA, but on the other they never stop making excuses for why he's not IN the NBA. And the biggest excuse? That a coach was too mean to him? Are you fucking kidding me?

The other excuse - that he missed Greece. If he was homesick, fine. But going home means he didn't make it in the NBA. He gave up. For him playing at home was a higher priority than playing at the highest level. There's nothing wrong with that if that's what he wanted. BUT that means he didn't make it in the NBA. Why does is that so hard for some fans to accept? It seems like Spanoulis has accepted it.

you are an idiot,

[DaDakota]

KBP just sent me a very nasty PM, lots of cursing and stuff about his boy VSpan.

I would post it but the language is so blue it would turn Spurstalk a shade of purple.

Anyway, VSpan is good for the Greek leagues, not good enough anymore for the NBA...too mistake prone.

If he really wanted it, he should have stayed in the NBA, he didn't....so he gets what he deserves, star player in a 2nd or 3rd rate league.

DD

[Mark in Austin]

you are an idiot,

you're right. let me amend my idiotic statement:

- everybody is held accountable in San Antonio except Finley and Bonner.

sorry for the mistake. :toast

[temujin]

Trashing Spanoulis by fans of a team that selected De Colo.
Or Dragic, pretty average player by WC standards, but phenomenal in NBA PO series.....

More and more interesting.

Maybe, just maybe, Spanoulis thought that playing at HOME, for an excellent TEAM and a great coach, while getting very good money and being located half an hour from gorgeous sceneries,
IS
slightly better than being a benchwarmer -not- playing for a mediocre coach, on a bad team, while getting less money and rottening in the middle of nowhere.

What an ill-advised decision from him!

[ChumpDumper]

The Spurs were a bad team?

[temujin]

The Spurs were a bad team?

Rockets were.
By the time he was done with those guys, he made the decision to go back.

[ChumpDumper]

Rockets were.
By the time he was done with those guys, he made the decision to go back.Poor little guy.

[temujin]

Poor little guy.

During the Gallic campaing, Cesar once received, with all the honors, a local "king" willing to collaborate with Romans.
After the long ceremony, his generals were making fun of poor little guy.

Cesar stopped the cheerful atmosphere.

"I'd rather be king in the tiniest of the gallic villages, than second in Rome."

I tend to agree.

[Bruno]

Spanoulis is a guard with a below average combination of size and speed for the NBA. When you are in that case, you need to be a special player to succeed in the NBA and Spanoulis is nowhere near special.

Even a player like Jasikevicius, who is way more talented than Spanoulis, failed in the NBA because of a lack of physical tools.

Javtokas could be a nice end of the bench player but nothing more.

[Mel_13]

Maybe, just maybe, Spanoulis thought that playing at HOME, for an excellent TEAM and a great coach, while getting very good money and being located half an hour from gorgeous sceneries,
IS
slightly better than being a benchwarmer -not- playing for a mediocre coach, on a bad team, while getting less money and rottening in the middle of nowhere.

What an ill-advised decision from him!

That's just fine. His decision to choose to be a big fish in a small pond rather than a small fish in a big pond is a perfectly reasonable individual decision. He obviously prefers the creature comforts and adulation that comes with playing at home.

I take no issue with his decision on where to pursue his professional career. I do, however, take issue with his small band of supporters who continue to insist that Spanoulis could be a premier player in the NBA if he chose to be. That's just ridiculous. He failed in his one attempt in the NBA (even if there were extenuating circumstances) and he has chosen not to return. No matter how great his success in inferior club leagues, the fact is that all those achievements have been recorded against lesser competition.

So if VSpan never wants to leave Athens, fine. Just stop with the claims that he would have great success in the NBA. The player has had numerous opportunities to leave the comforts of home and has refused. He is what he is, a great player in the Euroleague and the Greek League. He failed in the NBA and refused to return and has even turned down opportunities to play in the best domestic league in Europe.

Just a big fish in a small pond.

[Mark in Austin]

Javtokas could be a nice end of the bench player but nothing more.

I'd like to see that once his current contract is up. Javtokas for a year as the last big would be a nice bookend to being drafted so many years ago. If noting else, he won't be any worse than Mengke Bateer was in that role.

Weird Javtokas fact I didn't know until recently - he went to the same high school as LeBron James did according to his Wikipedia page.

[DaDakota]

Maybe, just maybe, Spanoulis thought that playing at HOME, for an excellent TEAM and a great coach, while getting very good money and being located half an hour from gorgeous sceneries,
IS
slightly better than being a benchwarmer -not- playing for a mediocre coach, on a bad team, while getting less money and rottening in the middle of nowhere.

What an ill-advised decision from him!

I agree with this, he made the right decision. I have always been a fan of his, and think if he stayed he would have developed into a solid NBA player.

He chose to be a big fish in a small pond, good move, but it was the easy way out.

Because if he stayed in the NBA he would have had to develop his game, get a better jumpshot, stop jumping in the air to pass, lots of things he gets away with in a lessor league like the Greek leagues, he would not get away with in the NBA.

He made his choice, it is his life, but now, it is too late for him in the NBA...he is only a Euro player now.

Nothing wrong with that.

DD

[temujin]

I never wrote Spanoulis can be a star in the NBA, anyway.

So, there is a consensus that he is big fish, in a small pond, but still a big fish.

Spurs fans should be more concerned about a SMALL fish -Bonner- that has ALREADY proven to be a small fish in a small national league in Europe.
I recall a negligible fish in fact.
A plancton, one might say.

This plancton guy, that has zero potential to be big in any league, has been given a ridiculous contract.

[Obstructed_View]

During the Gallic campaing, Cesar once received, with all the honors, a local "king" willing to collaborate with Romans.
After the long ceremony, his generals were making fun of poor little guy.

Cesar stopped the cheerful atmosphere.

"I'd rather be king in the tiniest of the gallic villages, than second in Rome."

I tend to agree.

Spanoulis was second from the end of the bench.

[jason1301]

I never wrote Spanoulis can be a star in the NBA, anyway.

So, there is a consensus that he is big fish, in a small pond, but still a big fish.

Spurs fans should be more concerned about a SMALL fish -Bonner- that has ALREADY proven to be a small fish in a small national league in Europe.
I recall a negligible fish in fact.
A plancton, one might say.

This plancton guy, that has zero potential to be big in any league, has been given a ridiculous contract.

I never claimed that Spanoulis would be an all-star either, but these morons are trying to find an excuse to bash him. Haters are going to hate. Other than maybe G Hill V-span would have been the best back up pg we had in a long time, but he turned his back to the NBA, that's why they hate him. He also destroyed the Dream Team, but "he got lucky that night" LOL as you can see there is not much to like about this guy... but these morons dont even have the dignity to the real reason they bash him B/C he beat the US team and gave a big middle finger the NBA.

I can guarantee you if he ever decides to play for the spurs, he will be fan favorite the very next day --just like he was in Houston.

[Mel_13]

but these morons are trying to find an excuse to bash him

You know you've lost the argument when you have to resort to personal insults. Thanks for playing, now move along.

[ChumpDumper]

You know you've lost the argument when you have to resort to personal insults. Thanks for playing, now move along.
I usually lead with the personal insults. Then I compare my opponent to Hitler.

[jason1301]

V-Span is a jerk who will never play in the NBA again.


he was well known to have had very limited PT in Greece, so that doesn't hold either (e.g. averaging 2.6 points and 1.6 rbds when his team won the 2007 Euroleague...)

He sniffed greatness but decided to be a loser.


Both these players would never have made it in the NBA. One was a wuss and the other a wreck due to injuries.


Temple >>> Vaginis

Bonner >>> Robertas


Spatula sucks.


that greek shit probably thinks his a franchise player probably explains why the constant pms




Somebody above suggested that Spanoodless could be an all-star in the NBA. Maybe in some alternate universe. In this universe, Spanoodless is a slightly better version of Blake Ahearn.




Spanoulis is absolute trash. He went home because he missed his mommy and pouted like a little bitch.

Flat out... he is a bucket of suckitude.


You know you've lost the argument when you have to resort to personal insults. Thanks for playing, now move along.

riiiiiiiiiiiiight

[Mel_13]

riiiiiiiiiiiiight

:lol

None of those quotes involved insults directed against other posters.

Your post did.

Thanks for playing.

Move along.

[jason1301]

:lol

None of those quotes involved insults directed against other posters.

Your post did.

Thanks for playing.

Move along.


sure, sure I guess insults directed against non-posters and/or players (i.e. ppl that can't insult you back) are non-personal. Whatever makes you happy man.

[ChumpDumper]

sure, sure I guess insults directed against non-posters and/or players (i.e. ppl that can't insult you back) are non-personal.For the purposes of this board, yes.

Do you think differently?

Please explain.

[Spursfan092120]

Unless that particular player is reading this forum, it is not personal to any of the people reading this forum....hmm...can't be that difficult to figure out.

[jason1301]

if you read this thread you either bashed or seen other posters bashing Spanoulis, I called these people morons and idiots. Then Mel 1313 enters the discussion saying; When Some People Can't Win An Argument, They Resort To Personal Attacks Against Their "Opponent".

You can argue all day long about semantics of the form personal insult and miss the whole point, Mel 1313's words of wisdom should directed towards these morons not me.

Do you really expect me to reason with a guy that posts


Temple >>> Vaginis

that guy is a moron.

[DrSteffo]

LOL what a moron. jason that is.

[Bruno]

In this WC, Spanoulis was good against bad teams and bad against good teams. It certainly doesn't help his case in changing the idea that he just isn't good enough to play in NBA.

[Kobayagi]

In this WC, Spanoulis was good against bad teams and bad against good teams. It certainly doesn't help his case in changing the idea that he just isn't good enough to play in NBA.


Hate to admit it, but homerism aside, Dragic was the same. His only two decent games came against Tunisia and Iran. Hope he steps it up, the expectations were really high.

[temujin]

I never claimed that Spanoulis would be an all-star either, but these morons are trying to find an excuse to bash him. Haters are going to hate. Other than maybe G Hill V-span would have been the best back up pg we had in a long time, but he turned his back to the NBA, that's why they hate him. He also destroyed the Dream Team, but "he got lucky that night" LOL as you can see there is not much to like about this guy... but these morons dont even have the dignity to the real reason they bash him B/C he beat the US team and gave a big middle finger the NBA.

I can guarantee you if he ever decides to play for the spurs, he will be fan favorite the very next day --just like he was in Houston.


This.

[temujin]

Spanoulis was second from the end of the bench.

http://www.euroleague.net/final-four/berlin-2009/main-page/i/49297/2772/item

[Obstructed_View]

http://www.euroleague.net/final-four/berlin-2009/main-page/i/49297/2772/item

Given the analogy, the NBA is Rome. He was never second in Rome.

[GSH]

During the Gallic campaing, Cesar once received, with all the honors, a local "king" willing to collaborate with Romans.
After the long ceremony, his generals were making fun of poor little guy.

Cesar stopped the cheerful atmosphere.

"I'd rather be king in the tiniest of the gallic villages, than second in Rome."

I tend to agree.


Heh... you pretty much summed it up. "It's better to rule in hell, than to serve in heaven." Spanoodless had a chance to be a member of the Spurs team. Instead, he chose to slink back to Greece. Big fish, small pond - whatever you want to call it. Spanoodless himself knew that he didn't have the talent to stand out here, so he went where he could stand out. He got it... why don't you?

Dipshit.

[Obstructed_View]

Better to be the biggest fish in a small pond if you're afraid of being eaten.

[DAF86]

In this WC, Spanoulis was good against bad teams and bad against good teams. It certainly doesn't help his case in changing the idea that he just isn't good enough to play in NBA.

http://www.usabasketball.com/seniormen/2006/06_mwc_box8.html

What did this game do to change that idea?

[jason1301]

http://www.usabasketball.com/seniormen/2006/06_mwc_box8.html

What did this game do to change that idea?

lol good one, he leads Greece over US, he leads Greece to a metal in the last Euro, he leads his team to a Euro league title, and earns mvp honors, he plays poorly against turkey... and he is a talentless piece of shit.

Most of these morons would never have left Greece in the first place, can't leave this piece of art behind. :toast

http://www.yupi.gr/data/photos/xopson2_small.jpg

http://www.sigmalive.com/files/node_images/0/3/4/59034/THL27Star3.jpg

[jason1301]

Spanoulis was second from the end of the bench.

nice try superstar, TP was a starter and then benched in 05. According to you he ll never ever make it to the NBA.

[Bruno]

http://www.usabasketball.com/seniormen/2006/06_mwc_box8.html

What did this game do to change that idea?

Nothing.
Spanoulis is nowhere near the level he had in 05-06. What matters is what he is doing now.

[temujin]

Heh... you pretty much summed it up. "It's better to rule in hell, than to serve in heaven." Spanoodless had a chance to be a member of the Spurs team. Instead, he chose to slink back to Greece. Big fish, small pond - whatever you want to call it. Spanoodless himself knew that he didn't have the talent to stand out here, so he went where he could stand out. He got it... why don't you?

Dipshit.

Spurstalk being a big pond??
:lol:lol

What a wonderfull world!
:downspin::downspin:

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Why do people argue over what Spanoulis would have brought to the Spurs, when we never traded for the player, we traded for that contract, which was about to be void and we would never have traded for him had it been a different case. It's not like he decided to go back to Greece after he was traded to the Spurs - he was traded for BECAUSE he had decided to go back and void that contract.

He was never a Spur and will never be a Spur.

[Mel_13]

Why do people argue over what Spanoulis would have brought to the Spurs, when we never traded for the player, we traded for that contract, which was about to be void and we would never have traded for him had it been a different case. It's not like he decided to go back to Greece after he was traded to the Spurs - he was traded for BECAUSE he had decided to go back and void that contract.

He was never a Spur and will never be a Spur.

Exactly.

Even his most enthusiastic supporters in this thread have agreed that he doesn't project as anything more than an NBA mediocrity. They believe that their delusional obsession with one game in the summer of 2006 is shared by the masses and accounts for the antipathy towards Spanoulis on this board. That is hilarious.

Spanoulis would never be mentioned on this board except for one bizarre phenomena. Without this, there would be virtually no discussion of Spanoulis, the Greek NT, or Greek basketball:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=2167236

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nice try superstar, TP was a starter and then benched in 05. According to you he ll never ever make it to the NBA.

What? Who is TP? Spanoulis played in 31 games and never started. Anyone who was a starter isn't relevant to the conversation.