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DarrinS
08-31-2010, 07:46 AM
This sounds like an article written by boutons. There are five citations of the word "rage" or "enraged".

He talks about the danger of GOP takeover of Congress in Nov., but then strangely focuses his article on Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck.

Strange little man.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/30/opinion/30krugman.html?_r=1





The last time a Democrat sat in the White House, he faced a nonstop witch hunt by his political opponents. Prominent figures on the right accused Bill and Hillary Clinton of everything from drug smuggling to murder. And once Republicans took control of Congress, they subjected the Clinton administration to unrelenting harassment — at one point taking 140 hours of sworn testimony over accusations that the White House had misused its Christmas card list.

Now it’s happening again — except that this time it’s even worse. Let’s turn the floor over to Rush Limbaugh: “Imam Hussein Obama,” he recently declared, is “probably the best anti-American president we’ve ever had.”

To get a sense of how much it matters when people like Mr. Limbaugh talk like this, bear in mind that he’s an utterly mainstream figure within the Republican Party; bear in mind, too, that unless something changes the political dynamics, Republicans will soon control at least one house of Congress. This is going to be very, very ugly.

So where is this rage coming from? Why is it flourishing? What will it do to America?

Anyone who remembered the 1990s could have predicted something like the current political craziness. What we learned from the Clinton years is that a significant number of Americans just don’t consider government by liberals — even very moderate liberals — legitimate. Mr. Obama’s election would have enraged those people even if he were white. Of course, the fact that he isn’t, and has an alien-sounding name, adds to the rage. :lol

By the way, I’m not talking about the rage of the excluded and the dispossessed: Tea Partiers are relatively affluent, and nobody is angrier these days than the very, very rich. Wall Street has turned on Mr. Obama with a vengeance: last month Steve Schwarzman, the billionaire chairman of the Blackstone Group, the private equity giant, compared proposals to end tax loopholes for hedge fund managers with the Nazi invasion of Poland.

And powerful forces are promoting and exploiting this rage. Jane Mayer’s new article in The New Yorker about the superrich Koch brothers and their war against Mr. Obama has generated much-justified attention, but as Ms. Mayer herself points out, only the scale of their effort is new: billionaires like Richard Mellon Scaife waged a similar war against Bill Clinton.

Meanwhile, the right-wing media are replaying their greatest hits. In the 1990s, Mr. Limbaugh used innuendo to feed anti-Clinton mythology, notably the insinuation that Hillary Clinton was complicit in the death of Vince Foster. Now, as we’ve just seen, he’s doing his best to insinuate that Mr. Obama is a Muslim. Again, though, there’s an extra level of craziness this time around: Mr. Limbaugh is the same as he always was, but now seems tame compared with Glenn Beck.

And where, in all of this, are the responsible Republicans, leaders who will stand up and say that some partisans are going too far? Nowhere to be found.

To take a prime example: the hysteria over the proposed Islamic center in lower Manhattan almost makes one long for the days when former President George W. Bush tried to soothe religious hatred, declaring Islam a religion of peace. There were good reasons for his position: there are a billion Muslims in the world, and America can’t afford to make all of them its enemies.

But here’s the thing: Mr. Bush is still around, as are many of his former officials. Where are the statements, from the former president or those in his inner circle, preaching tolerance and denouncing anti-Islam hysteria? On this issue, as on many others, the G.O.P. establishment is offering a nearly uniform profile in cowardice.

So what will happen if, as expected, Republicans win control of the House? We already know part of the answer: Politico reports that they’re gearing up for a repeat performance of the 1990s, with a “wave of committee investigations” — several of them over supposed scandals that we already know are completely phony. We can expect the G.O.P. to play chicken over the federal budget, too; I’d put even odds on a 1995-type government shutdown sometime over the next couple of years.

It will be an ugly scene, and it will be dangerous, too. The 1990s were a time of peace and prosperity; this is a time of neither. In particular, we’re still suffering the after-effects of the worst economic crisis since the 1930s, and we can’t afford to have a federal government paralyzed by an opposition with no interest in helping the president govern. But that’s what we’re likely to get.

If I were President Obama, I’d be doing all I could to head off this prospect, offering some major new initiatives on the economic front in particular, if only to shake up the political dynamic. But my guess is that the president will continue to play it safe, all the way into catastrophe.

George Gervin's Afro
08-31-2010, 07:50 AM
If only republicans would have been as concerned about phony evidence for war.... but now they want to investigate job offers.... and phony black panther stories ... I'm sure America wants non stop investigations..good luck with that GOP..

DarrinS
08-31-2010, 07:56 AM
If only republicans would have been as concerned about phony evidence for war....


Or the Democrats.

George Gervin's Afro
08-31-2010, 08:27 AM
Or the Democrats.

No I'd prefer to know who in the administration knew that the evidence being used as justification for war was not on the up and up....

we know darrin you want to know about job offergate!

boutons_deux
08-31-2010, 08:42 AM
"evidence being used as justification for war"

there was no evidence, it was all fabricated, total lies.

The Repugs were running the Exec and all the bogus intel operations, not the Dems. The Dems' fault was their historic fault, wimping out, except for, notably, Magic Negro.

CosmicCowboy
08-31-2010, 09:08 AM
No I'd prefer to know who in the administration knew that the evidence being used as justification for war was not on the up and up....

we know darrin you want to know about job offergate!

I want to know why FDR locked up law abiding Japanese-Americans! Damn Demopugs!

George Gervin's Afro
08-31-2010, 09:10 AM
I want to know why FDR locked up law abiding Japanese-Americans! Damn Demopugs!

So you don't care that 5,000 dead GIs are dead and that war is cause for fun and laughter..USA,USA,USA!

CosmicCowboy
08-31-2010, 09:28 AM
So you don't care that 5,000 dead GIs are dead and that war is cause for fun and laughter..USA,USA,USA!

So you don't care that FDR interned thousands of innocent Japanese-Americans??????















I don't think you get the point.

Quit living in the past and own the fact that Democrats own the Presidency and both houses of Congress and have for almost 2 years.

George Bush is retired and living quietly in Dallas.

Get the fuck over it.

boutons_deux
08-31-2010, 09:33 AM
Just fucking wow.

$3T wasted, 5000+ sacred military lives wasted, 100s of 1000s of dead Iraqis, a busted up country, 4M Iraqi refugees, and just a "get the fuck over it" ?

DarrinS
08-31-2010, 09:40 AM
OP not about Iraq.

CosmicCowboy
08-31-2010, 09:47 AM
Just fucking wow.

$3T wasted, 5000+ sacred military lives wasted, 100s of 1000s of dead Iraqis, a busted up country, 4M Iraqi refugees, and just a "get the fuck over it" ?

Well wave your fucking magic wand and fix it then.

That doesn't change the fact that George Bush is retired and quietly living in Dallas for the last two years.

Raving about the past doesn't change anything.

YOUR boy is President now.

George Gervin's Afro
08-31-2010, 09:56 AM
Well wave your fucking magic wand and fix it then.

That doesn't change the fact that George Bush is retired and quietly living in Dallas for the last two years.

Raving about the past doesn't change anything.

YOUR boy is President now.

So let's just forget about being misled to war..that is sooooooo yesterday.. dead soldiers? Who cares about them? The dems are in ofice now...

CosmicCowboy
08-31-2010, 10:06 AM
So let's just forget about being misled to war..that is sooooooo yesterday.. dead soldiers? Who cares about them? The dems are in ofice now...

Well, if the Democrats policy is going to be to run against George Bush forever I think that you are going to be heartbroken over the results. Just about everyone but you sees through it and is sick of that crap. Obama is the absolute worst about it...if he keeps that shit up he will be 4 and out in 2012. Can't happen soon enough.

George Gervin's Afro
08-31-2010, 10:38 AM
Well, if the Democrats policy is going to be to run against George Bush forever I think that you are going to be heartbroken over the results. Just about everyone but you sees through it and is sick of that crap. Obama is the absolute worst about it...if he keeps that shit up he will be 4 and out in 2012. Can't happen soon enough.

I care about a president who misled us to war. period. I don't care about blaming bush for obama's failures. Bush's administration misled us to war and they need to be held accountable no matter which party is in office.

coyotes_geek
08-31-2010, 10:39 AM
The electorate quit giving a fuck about Iraq once the economy went into the shitter. The whole deal is a colossal clusterfuck, but no one cares anymore. Well, no one except for the braindead wingnuts whose only interest in the topic is political scorekeeping.