Splitter vs Scola Tuesday

[kaji157]

Seriously? Look, I dont want to take anything away from Scola/Argentina, but some calls Scola got in the paint and another flop from a Delfino drive...
The ref was bad, for both sides. But I thought Argentina got the benefit of the doubt a few times.

You are wrong, the refs were not calling silly fouls on the paint, Scola scored and Brasil didnt.
His last turnaround fade away jumper on Varejao goes like this.
Scola posted up.
Contact - no call
Goes again
Contact - no call
Scola: they wont call a damn thing
Turnaround 2 points

Brasil out were they belong. Even Magnano can´t fix that.

[DesignatedT]

And Jefferson makes 10 millions.

And he be making 10 in 4 years time.

Cheers!

? What does that have to do with anything..

[temujin]

? What does that have to do with anything..

How do the 7 millions Barbosa is making tranlating into the game today?

Or the 7 millions varjao is making compared to the 0.7 millions Huertas is making?

Who is the basketball player between the three?

[DPG21920]

Scola makes $10 mil/year and Splitter makes $3 mil/year.... This isn't surprising..... Do people not understand this?

I have seen you making this argument everywhere and it is incredibly faulty. Just make your point about the players without using this. It makes no sense.

[temujin]

You are obsessed with Bonner, aren't you?

Bonner is a joke.
3 years of a joke is not funny.
3 MORE years of the same, only older joke is even less unny, expecially when you just watched a player with huge balls.

[DesignatedT]

I'm just saying it's not surprising that a player that makes 3x as much as an NBA player outplayed a player who has never even seen the floor of the best league in the world. it amazes me to see how many people are freaking out or actually think that Splitter is a better player than Scola. Obviously it's not true and the money proves and speaks for itself.

[Mel_13]

Bonner is a joke.
3 years of a joke is not funny.
3 MORE years of the same, only older joke is even less unny, expecially when you just watched a player with huge balls.

Yet you keep telling the same joke over and over again.

[DesignatedT]

I have seen you making this argument everywhere and it is incredibly faulty. Just make your point about the players without using this. It makes no sense.

everywhere.. you mean 2 threads?

[ThaBigFundamental21]

u comparing splitter to scola who has gino passin him the ball, while splitter is force to play with that ball hog barboza

That chick is so ugly.

[diego]

Like those few days would make a difference ...


for those who says that it's good for splitter cause he has less games to get injured.
Well spurs can keep him off the camp - he can get injury there as well :rolleyes

didn't you hear? the problem is not getting injured per se, the problem is getting injured playing in anything other than a NBA game. its not about health, its about keeping the bosses happy! I mean seriously, how would you feel, you hire a driver and he crashes his car on vacation. the betrayal! wouldnt it be better for him to crash your car with you in it??!

[Spurs Brazil]

Props to Argentina.
Scola was fantastic. I hope Argentina can win the tournament
It would be nice to see Huertas with a chance in the NBA but I think he has no chance to leave Caja

[temujin]

Yet you keep telling the same joke over and over again.

Check that out.

[DPG21920]

I'm just saying it's not surprising that a player that makes 3x as much as an NBA player outplayed a player who has never even seen the floor of the best league in the world. it amazes me to see how many people are freaking out or actually think that Splitter is a better player than Scola. Obviously it's not true and the money proves and speaks for itself.

No, the money proves nothing. Scola has been better than Rudy Gay this tourney and Rudy makes more money.

That argument is so bad. I agree with the player evaluation, but just not that part.

Hill was better than RJ last year, yet RJ made 15M. There are literally hundreds of examples like that.

[duncan228]

NBA PM: Best Trade Ever? (http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=17268)
Yannis Koutroupis
Hoopsworld

Scola Rubs Salt On The Wound: The San Antonio Spurs typically don't find themselves on the losing side of deals. They've been one of the league's most dominant teams over the past 10 years largely in part to their front office's brilliance and patience. They've managed to win four championships since 1999 all while staying under the luxury tax and making minor tweaks rather than major moves. Limiting spending is a philosophy that has held a lot of franchises back, but rarely affected the Spurs until 2007 when they dealt Luis Scola, the best power forward not in the NBA at the time, to the Houston Rockets. Back then it was something that the Spurs looked at as necessary, but it's something that they really regret now.

After years of failing to reach a buyout agreement with Scola's club overseas the Spurs gave up on trying to add him to the team. They felt with the roster they had in place, which featured a newly re-signed Matt Bonner and Fabricio Oberto along with Ian Mahinmi, that there wasn't room for Scola or forward Jackie Butler. So they traded them to Houston for Vassilis Spanoulis and a second round pick that eventually turned into France's Nando De Colo, who averaged eight points and two assists in the World Championships.

"As an organization we felt responsible to let Luis pursue his dream of the NBA and this was the best opportunity to realize his value," said Buford back in 2007. "With our roster intact it would appear unlikely that neither Butler nor Scola would impact our rotation."

Count that as one of the rare instances where Buford was dead wrong because since finally making his way to the NBA in 2007 Scola has been flat-out productive. Meanwhile De Colo and Spanoulis haven't played a game in the NBA. Scola has yet to miss a game and has steadily improved each and every year. He averaged a career best 16 points and eight rebounds last season and has carried over his strong play to the FIBA World Championships.

Earlier today there was a matchup between Argentina and Brazil that greatly intrigued the Spurs and their fan base. It featured Scola taking on Tiago Splitter, who will be making his NBA debut with San Antonio this season after being drafted by them in 2007. Drafting Splitter also factored into the Spurs decision to trade Scola, so a strong performance by him would have helped ease the pain.

Over the years Spurs head coach Gregg Popovich has made no secret about his anger over how things played out with Scola. He once said that it made him so upset that he wanted to spit and he probably felt just as fired up today after watching the show that Scola put on.

Scola continued on his tournament-MVP pace with 37 points, nine rebounds, and three assists. Splitter put forth 10 points and five rebounds himself, but it was very clear as to who the superior player was. Splitter will ultimately determine his worth to the Spurs during the regular season, but fantasies about how great Scola could have been as Spur live on. He had 14 points in the fourth quarter to help lead Argentina past Brazil, further cementing himself as the best player in the tournament.

While San Antonio thinks about what could have been the Rockets are sitting pretty with one of the best power forwards in the league that they got for an absolute steal. Coach Popovich suggested forming a trade committee that could veto lopsided deals when the Memphis Grizzlies traded All-Star power forward Pau Gasol to the Los Angeles Lakers. But in that deal Memphis landed Marc Gasol who has developed into a very solid starting center and the cap space to trade for Zach Randolph, who had an All-Star year for them in 09-10. All the Spurs got for Scola, an ideal player to put alongside Tim Duncan inside, was some cash and two players who will never see the court with Duncan. Looking back there's no question which deal was more uneven and today just helped further illustrate that.

[DPG21920]

everywhere.. you mean 2 threads?

Yes. When there is two threads on the same subject on the front page and you keep using the argument, I classify that as everywhere (where it pertains to this subject).

[temujin]

I'm just saying it's not surprising that a player that makes 3x as much as an NBA player outplayed a player who has never even seen the floor of the best league in the world. it amazes me to see how many people are freaking out or actually think that Splitter is a better player than Scola. Obviously it's not true and the money proves and speaks for itself.

Faulty logic, or Eddie Curry would be one of the best.

[EduRiker]

You are wrong, the refs were not calling silly fouls on the paint, Scola scored and Brasil didnt.
His last turnaround fade away jumper on Varejao goes like this.
Scola posted up.
Contact - no call
Goes again
Contact - no call
Scola: they wont call a damn thing
Turnaround 2 points

Brasil out were they belong. Even Magnano can´t fix that.

Yeah, cause every human contact Scola receives must be called a foul. Argentina is a great team, no need to throw cheap shots.

Brazil is growing. Tiago and Huertas are both young, we have plenty of room for improve. You must know that since our Under-18 team handed your asses earlier this year.

[tp2021]

228 is back!

[kaji157]

What could have been? Look at the lakers once they got Gasol.
Habing two bigmen who can score efficiently is very important on todays basketball.
That´s what we missed.
Scola is no Gasol, but his game resembles a lot, if Gasol is a A player, Scola is clearly a B- at worst.

[rocketblaze]

man, Scola was a beast!!

thank's spurs for Luis Scola!:D

--RB

[DesignatedT]

No, the money proves nothing. Scola has been better than Rudy Gay this tourney and Rudy makes more money.

That argument is so bad. I agree with the player evaluation, but just not that part.

Hill was better than RJ last year, yet RJ made 15M. There are literally hundreds of examples like that.

I am not saying that If you make more money you are obvously better. I know better than to say that. I was just pointing out that Scola is obviously the superior player at the moment and that's why he just got a $50 million dollar extension. I am not talking about Rudy Gay or Richard Jefferson or Eddy Curry. I am talking about Scola vs Splitter and there is a reason that Scola makes 10 million dollars a year and a reason why Splitter just signed for only 3 million dollars a year... because Scola is better.

[kaji157]

No, the money proves nothing. Scola has been better than Rudy Gay this tourney and Rudy makes more money.

That argument is so bad. I agree with the player evaluation, but just not that part.

Hill was better than RJ last year, yet RJ made 15M. There are literally hundreds of examples like that.

Not to say that Scola´s rookie deal was the same we gave Splitter.
So by this guy standars Splitter should average 10 points and 6 rebs in his first season and improve to 14 and 9 in the playoffs because those are Scola stats in his first year while being paid 3 millions.

[DPG21920]

:lol The argument still does not make sense just because you can apply it to your argument in a bubble. Either the logic makes sense or it does not.

Or else everyone could justify everything.

The point is, Scola right now is better. The other point is that this was just one game. They are different players. If we could watch Tiago play his best, he would look a lot better as well.

[DesignatedT]

:lol The argument still does not make sense just because you can apply it to your argument in a bubble. Either the logic makes sense or it does not.

Or else everyone could justify everything.

The point is, Scola right now is better. The other point is that this was just one game. They are different players. If we could watch Tiago play his best, he would look a lot better as well.

How does the argument not make sense. You are looking way to hard into what I am saying.

Scola is better than Splitter. It is obvious. Everyone that watches basketball knows this... therefore Scola makes more money. I am not saying that this is always the case but it should be and regarding these 2 players it is. That is all I was ever implying. Both just got new contracts... one player was 5 years 50 mil the other 3 years 10 mil.

[DPG21920]

Sigh

[temujin]

How does the argument not make sense. You are looking way to hard into what I am saying.

Scola is better than Splitter. It is obvious. Everyone that watches basketball knows this... therefore Scola makes more money. I am not saying that this is always the case but it should be and regarding these 2 players it is. That is all I was ever implying. Both just got new contracts... one player was 5 years 50 mil the other 3 years 10 mil.

You just find reassuring the he who makes the most money is the best professional.
In the case of Splitter-Scola, fine.

Just do NOT look at the salaries of the other players you have seen today.
Oberto>>>Varejao (7 millions/year).
Delfino>>>>>>>>>Barbosa (7 millions/year)
Huertas>Prigioni (twice as much money).

So there are RULES to this exception.

[Bruno]

Like those few days would make a difference ...


for those who says that it's good for splitter cause he has less games to get injured.
Well spurs can keep him off the camp - he can get injury there as well :rolleyes

These few additional days of rest are welcomed for a player that has ended late his season last year and who has played with his NT this summer.

The difference between trainign camp and the WC is that few more games at the WC won't help him at all being a better Spur while playing in the training camp will help Splitter being a better Spur.

[temujin]

The bad news is that Mahinmi has a couple of extra days to get ready for the Mavs training camp.
He's had a long season practicing with the Spurs and practiced most of the summer for the NT.
poor guy needs some rest.

[Bruno]

And Scubla is one of the biggest basketball loser ever.

He won nothing in Europe when he was Tau main player. Years after years, he choked. When he left Tau and Splitter take his spot as the main player, Tau won 2 Spanish league in 3 years.

In Houston, he turns a playoff team into a lottery team.

And it's not some two weeks long summer tournament ridding Ginobili's cock that change a damn thing.

Scrubla is the Latino version of Zach Randolph. Empty stats and, on top of that, he is now overpaid.

[blkroadrunners]

How does the argument not make sense. You are looking way to hard into what I am saying.

Scola is better than Splitter. It is obvious. Everyone that watches basketball knows this... therefore Scola makes more money. I am not saying that this is always the case but it should be and regarding these 2 players it is. That is all I was ever implying. Both just got new contracts... one player was 5 years 50 mil the other 3 years 10 mil.

When Scola first came to the NBA, Houston offered Luis a contract of about $9.5M for 3 years before his contract expired this off-season. That's approximately the amount the Spurs offered Splitter this summer for his first year.

Scola is already a proven NBA player who is currently 30 yrs old, so of course there is not suprise why Houston offered him 5 years for $50M. Splitter, on the other hand, has yet to play an NBA game, and he's about 5 yrs younger than Scola.

[arles]

And Scubla is one of the biggest basketball loser ever.

He won nothing in Europe when he was Tau main player. Years after years, he choked. When he left Tau and Splitter take his spot as the main player, Tau won 2 Spanish league in 3 years.

In Houston, he turns a playoff team into a lottery team.

And it's not some two weeks long summer tournament ridding Ginobili's cock that change a damn thing.

Scrubla is the Latino version of Zach Randolph. Empty stats and, on top of that, he is now overpaid.

Scola's Career highlights and awards

*2000 Spanish League Rookie of the Year
*2000 FIBA Americas Under-20 Championship MVP
*2005 Spanish Supercup MVP
*2× Spanish League MVP 2005, 2007
*All-Euroleague Second Team 2005
*2× All-Euroleague First Team 2006, 2007
*2× FIBA Americas Championship MVP 2007, 2009
*2008 NBA All-Rookie First Team

So......

[SequDynasty]

if you ask me...one of them should be fired.

:flag::flag::flag::flag::flag:

[DPG21920]

And Scubla is one of the biggest basketball loser ever.

He won nothing in Europe when he was Tau main player. Years after years, he choked. When he left Tau and Splitter take his spot as the main player, Tau won 2 Spanish league in 3 years.

In Houston, he turns a playoff team into a lottery team.

And it's not some two weeks long summer tournament ridding Ginobili's cock that change a damn thing.

Scrubla is the Latino version of Zach Randolph. Empty stats and, on top of that, he is now overpaid.

You can't blame Scola for Houston. Scola is a very good player. He has some holes in his game, but if you put him on a good team, he can help. He plays hard and has some nice skill.

Yao's & T-Mac's injuries killed that team along with the mediocre signings. That is not Scola's fault.

But the point about Tiago with Tau and Scola with Tau is interesting.

[Bruno]

Scola's Career highlights and awards

*2000 Spanish League Rookie of the Year
*2000 FIBA Americas Under-20 Championship MVP
*2005 Spanish Supercup MVP
*2× Spanish League MVP 2005, 2007
*All-Euroleague Second Team 2005
*2× All-Euroleague First Team 2006, 2007
*2× FIBA Americas Championship MVP 2007, 2009
*2008 NBA All-Rookie First Team

So......

So, as a fan, what makes you happy, is when players win personal awards?

I'm a strange dude but I like, when the team I root for, win championship.

[arles]

So, as a fan, what makes you happy, is when players win personal awards?

I'm a strange dude but I like, when the team I root for, win championship.

Wiki:
"Although Scola did not manage to win the Euroleague championship with Baskonia, he did win with them every major Spanish League title, winning a Spanish ACB League championship in 2002, 3 Spanish Cups in 2002, 2004, 2006, and 3 Spanish Supercups in 2005, 2006, 2007."

The only thing he didn't win with TAU was the Euroleague. So you can never say he's "one of the biggest basketball loser ever", that "He won nothing in Europe when he was Tau main player", and that "he choked".

Come on, people!

[Bruno]

Wiki:
"Although Scola did not manage to win the Euroleague championship with Baskonia, he did win with them every major Spanish League title, winning a Spanish ACB League championship in 2002, 3 Spanish Cups in 2002, 2004, 2006, and 3 Spanish Supercups in 2005, 2006, 2007."

The only thing he didn't win with TAU was the Euroleague. So you can never say he's "one of the biggest basketball loser ever", that "He won nothing in Europe when he was Tau main player", and that "he choked".

Come on, people!

Do you know really something about Spanish basketball?

FYI,
Spanish Spercup is a meaningless two days preseason tournament.
Spanish Cup is a little less meaningless since it's a four days promotional mid season tournament.
The only thing that truly matters is the ACB title.

Scrubla won the ACB title in 2002 while he wasn't the main player in Tau. After that, when he became the "franchise" player, he choked years after years.

[Brazil]

And Scubla is one of the biggest basketball loser ever.

He won nothing in Europe when he was Tau main player. Years after years, he choked. When he left Tau and Splitter take his spot as the main player, Tau won 2 Spanish league in 3 years.

In Houston, he turns a playoff team into a lottery team.

And it's not some two weeks long summer tournament ridding Ginobili's cock that change a damn thing.

Scrubla is the Latino version of Zach Randolph. Empty stats and, on top of that, he is now overpaid.

hum it's a little bit harsh. Scola is a very solid player, he is humble, takes the job the coach gives him w/o complaining: starter, off the bench, role player, go to go player etc...
Moreover and except if I forget something he did win titles with Tau.

Scola is a solid NBA player and he is better than Splitter.

[arles]

This is pointless. Keep thinking he's the biggest basketball loser ever, no problem for me.

[Spursfan092120]

Really? Are you fucking sure? No fuckin way....

[Bruno]

hum it's a little bit harsh.

Off course, it's a little harsh.

When I see all the crybabies whining about Scola and saying huge stupidities like trading Scola cost Spurs some titles, my only wish is to bash him.

The Scola trade was a bad one. Scola is a good player and would have help Spurs but acting like he is some kind of basketball god is just plain dumb.

And trashing Scola is a little a sentimental thing for me. whottt was an awesome poster and be has left ST because of some douchebags. I don't want that he came back one day here and see a Scola thread without some bashing. There is a legacy.

[Bruno]

whottt :depressed

[Bruno]

228 is back!

It's great so see him back.

[Brazil]

Off course, it's a little harsh.

When I see all the crybabies whining about Scola and saying huge stupidities like trading Scola cost Spurs some titles, my only wish is to bash him.

The Scola trade was a bad one. Scola is a good player and would have help Spurs but acting like he is some kind of basketball god is just plain dumb.

And trashing Scola is a little a sentimental thing for me. whottt was an awesome poster and be has left ST because of some douchebags. I don't want that he came back one day here and see a Scola thread without some bashing. There is a legacy.

I didn't know the sentimental thing even it sounds gay I respect that. :lol

The Scola story hurts for sure but I do agree on the fact that the difference between 4 rings and 5 or 6 is not Scola.

Spurs FO is one of the best in the NBA and the scola story doesn't change that. Now the bonner contract... :bang

[ducks]

scola and pop and rc did not get along


scola did not want to be a spur
case shut
just like elway did not want to play for the team that drafted him
he did not want to play east of miss.. river

[ace3g]

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/54/fullj.e18681807ec4316980dae507d6f992f8/e18681807ec4316980dae507d6f992f8-getty-basket-tur-wc2010-arg-bra.jpg

lol, expression on Oberto's face

[Ignignokt]

NBA PM: Best Trade Ever? (http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=17268)
Yannis Koutroupis
Hoopsworld

Scola Rubs Salt On The Wound: The San Antonio Spurs typically don't find themselves on the losing side of deals. They've been one of the league's most dominant teams over the past 10 years largely in part to their front office's brilliance and patience. They've managed to win four championships since 1999 all while staying under the luxury tax and making minor tweaks rather than major moves. Limiting spending is a philosophy that has held a lot of franchises back, but rarely affected the Spurs until 2007 when they dealt Luis Scola, the best power forward not in the NBA at the time, to the Houston Rockets. Back then it was something that the Spurs looked at as necessary, but it's something that they really regret now.

After years of failing to reach a buyout agreement with Scola's club overseas the Spurs gave up on trying to add him to the team. They felt with the roster they had in place, which featured a newly re-signed Matt Bonner and Fabricio Oberto along with Ian Mahinmi, that there wasn't room for Scola or forward Jackie Butler. So they traded them to Houston for Vassilis Spanoulis and a second round pick that eventually turned into France's Nando De Colo, who averaged eight points and two assists in the World Championships.

"As an organization we felt responsible to let Luis pursue his dream of the NBA and this was the best opportunity to realize his value," said Buford back in 2007. "With our roster intact it would appear unlikely that neither Butler nor Scola would impact our rotation."

Count that as one of the rare instances where Buford was dead wrong because since finally making his way to the NBA in 2007 Scola has been flat-out productive. Meanwhile De Colo and Spanoulis haven't played a game in the NBA. Scola has yet to miss a game and has steadily improved each and every year. He averaged a career best 16 points and eight rebounds last season and has carried over his strong play to the FIBA World Championships.

Earlier today there was a matchup between Argentina and Brazil that greatly intrigued the Spurs and their fan base. It featured Scola taking on Tiago Splitter, who will be making his NBA debut with San Antonio this season after being drafted by them in 2007. Drafting Splitter also factored into the Spurs decision to trade Scola, so a strong performance by him would have helped ease the pain.

Over the years Spurs head coach Gregg Popovich has made no secret about his anger over how things played out with Scola. He once said that it made him so upset that he wanted to spit and he probably felt just as fired up today after watching the show that Scola put on.

Scola continued on his tournament-MVP pace with 37 points, nine rebounds, and three assists. Splitter put forth 10 points and five rebounds himself, but it was very clear as to who the superior player was. Splitter will ultimately determine his worth to the Spurs during the regular season, but fantasies about how great Scola could have been as Spur live on. He had 14 points in the fourth quarter to help lead Argentina past Brazil, further cementing himself as the best player in the tournament.

While San Antonio thinks about what could have been the Rockets are sitting pretty with one of the best power forwards in the league that they got for an absolute steal. Coach Popovich suggested forming a trade committee that could veto lopsided deals when the Memphis Grizzlies traded All-Star power forward Pau Gasol to the Los Angeles Lakers. But in that deal Memphis landed Marc Gasol who has developed into a very solid starting center and the cap space to trade for Zach Randolph, who had an All-Star year for them in 09-10. All the Spurs got for Scola, an ideal player to put alongside Tim Duncan inside, was some cash and two players who will never see the court with Duncan. Looking back there's no question which deal was more uneven and today just helped further illustrate that.

gay

[ace3g]

just saw this WTF...

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20100907/i/r514656005.jpg

An Argentina supporter displays a tattoo of what he claimed was an image of Osama Bin Laden during their FIBA Basketball World Championship game against Brazil in Istanbul September 7, 2010.

[waly.mg]

Scola thread ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡

[TDMVPDPOY]

this thread is stupid

since drafting scola, how many rings did we win without having him on our roster?

fkn thread fail, move on, nothing to read here

[chasky]

just saw this WTF...

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20100907/i/r514656005.jpg

An Argentina supporter displays a tattoo of what he claimed was an image of Osama Bin Laden during their FIBA Basketball World Championship game against Brazil in Istanbul September 7, 2010.

In a big part of the world Osama isn't the bad guy. USA Goverment are.

[waly.mg]

Scola thread ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡

[spizzle_tronk]

itt: u mad

[noob cake]

whottt :depressed

Scola is not really that good; just playing against weak competition....

This is obviously the answer

[DPG21920]

whottt :depressed

What's that? If you like Scola, you are a Rocket fan. Shut up and go root for the Rockets.

Brent Barryyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Solid D]

Ugh. RC Buford didn't like Scola because he supposedly couldn't shoot and couldn't rebound. Good call :rolleyes

Oh and seeing Oberto beat up Splitter like he was going up against his little brother wasn't a good sign of things to come.

Welcome back, LJ.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

In a big part of the world Osama isn't the bad guy. USA Goverment are.

yeah, the part of the world that has its head up its ass.

[DAF86]

just saw this WTF...

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20100907/i/r514656005.jpg

An Argentina supporter displays a tattoo of what he claimed was an image of Osama Bin Laden during their FIBA Basketball World Championship game against Brazil in Istanbul September 7, 2010.

lol What a fucking retard.

[DAF86]

scola and pop and rc did not get along


scola did not want to be a spur
case shut
just like elway did not want to play for the team that drafted him
he did not want to play east of miss.. river

I don't know where that rumour started but it's fucking bullshit, Scola was/is a Spurs fan.

[DesignatedT]

is that tatoo real? wtf lol

[Leonard Curse]

just saw this WTF...

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20100907/i/r514656005.jpg

An Argentina supporter displays a tattoo of what he claimed was an image of Osama Bin Laden during their FIBA Basketball World Championship game against Brazil in Istanbul September 7, 2010.


its not like hes the cause of 9/11 if you ask me a tat of George "senior" Bush would be more of an evil tattoo since he murderd America's last real President!!! R.I.P JFK

[Leonard Curse]

oh yeah and bruno i really like your point!!!! i think scola is a solid good player but some mistake him for great and youre right about splitter i was just thinking that same thing ya know even though scola was the better player today splitters game might translate to the nba better and he could have more of an impact at 7ft tall that makes a huge difference in the nba and like i said he hasnt stop improving year to year and with pop,RC, and Chad i think splitter will become very good he has all the basic moves, IQ, physical body to become a very good player and there is no better situation for him than san antonio with his idol tim duncan!! you better believe tiagos going to learn some damn good moves and i doubt this is the tiago we see in 2 years from now

[Jardo]

Scola is not Michael Jordan. But let's appreciate that the Rockets do not have a pick and roll guard.

[yavozerb]

Scola is a great international player and a good NBA player. Tiago (right now) is a good international player and unknown NBA player. We must remember that Tiago is 5 yrs younger than scola and once he plays NBA type competetion night in and night out this will raise his level of play as well in the international game (same as Scola). I really do think Tiago's game will be good on the NBA level and the system the spurs run will fit him very well. Lets not get carried away about scola though, the guy was just on RFA market and got one offer only (rockets). His game is about as good as its gonna get and he may have only 1-2 more yrs at this lvl in my opinion.

[urunobili]

whottt :depressed

whottt:depressed


Let's appreciate that the Rockets do not have a pick and roll guard.

They actually shopped Prigioni last year.. they just kill it together...

[ElNono]

Well, both Scola and Delfino went off and it was still a pretty close game. This Argie team doesn't have enough to pull the upset against Team USA like in years past though. We'll see if they can beat a fairly mild Lithuania first.

[HarlemHeat37]

Scola is too poor defensively to make up for the loss of Bowen, and Duncan's step down defensively, so he isn't the difference between a title and a playoff exit(unless you're hypothetically adding Splitter and Blair to the bench as well)..

With that being said, the Spurs obviously lost a big-time player..I don't buy the "loser" talk..Scola is a role player, his role isn't intended to carry a team, he shouldn't be the difference between titles and playoff exits, that falls on superstars..

Scola is a very good offensive player..he shot 50% in post-up situations, he's obviously one of the best post-up player in the NBA..a good 1 on 1 player, a good pick and roll finisher, crafty at the rim, good at running in transition..he isn't a black hole, so I don't buy the "loser" talk from some people..

He's an average defender and a poor 1 on 1 defender, so that should be considered, but he's still a very good role player with an outstanding offensive repertoire..

[EduRiker]

There's a report coming out the brazilian press that a few teams might be interested in Marcelinho Huertas and suposebly the Spurs is one of them. Splitter said some team officials asked him about Huertas.

Dont hold your breath though, Huertas still have two more years with Caja Laboral.

[Indazone]

Scola is too poor defensively to make up for the loss of Bowen, and Duncan's step down defensively, so he isn't the difference between a title and a playoff exit(unless you're hypothetically adding Splitter and Blair to the bench as well)..

With that being said, the Spurs obviously lost a big-time player..I don't buy the "loser" talk..Scola is a role player, his role isn't intended to carry a team, he shouldn't be the difference between titles and playoff exits, that falls on superstars..

Scola is a very good offensive player..he shot 50% in post-up situations, he's obviously one of the best post-up player in the NBA..a good 1 on 1 player, a good pick and roll finisher, crafty at the rim, good at running in transition..he isn't a black hole, so I don't buy the "loser" talk from some people..

He's an average defender and a poor 1 on 1 defender, so that should be considered, but he's still a very good role player with an outstanding offensive repertoire..

Scola is a role player? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thank you Spurs for your "Role" player. This guy averages 20-10 after we trade Landry and gets more than 31.2 min per game. Scola averaging 37 min per game is a beast.

Increased playing time suiting Scola just fine

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/03/18/fiveontherise_week20/index.html
By Jeff Case, NBA.com

Posted Mar 18 2010 12:15PM

Up to the trade deadline, the differences between Carl Landry and Luis Scola in Houston were hard to distinguish. Both played roughly the same amount (Landry averaged 27.2 mpg to Scola's 31.2 mpg), scored about the same (Landry at 16.1 ppg, Scola at 15.6) while Landry was the better shotblocker and Scola was the better rebounder.

Amid all of those statistical similarites was the Rockets' quandry of who to play down the stretch. Do they go with the banging, hustling Landry? Or do they play the jump-shooting, fleet-footed Scola instead? Tired of the guessing game (and more importantly, in need of more scoring), the Rockets dealt Landry to the Kings basically for Kevin Martin. As much as Martin has benefitted from the trade, Scola is doing more now than he ever did with Landry.

Since Landry's trade, Scola has seen his scoring average jump to 20.1 ppg and has played 37 or more minutes seven times in the last 12 games. (By comparison, he played in 37 or more minutes seven times in the Rockets' first 53 games.) His play in the last five games (in which Houston is 4-1) has given the team renewed hope in a late-season surge for the playoffs.

Coach Rick Adelman has praised Scola for his energy and rebounding prowess, something that was on full display last week in a big win over the Nuggets. It was Scola who had two quick baskets as Houston cut into the Nuggets' 11-point fourth-quarter lead, Scola who got an easy fast-break bucket to give Houston a 122-121 lead and Scola who came down with a late defensive rebound that gave Aaron Brooks a free-throw attempt that helped set up the game's final thrilling sequence.

While the Rockets have a steep climb to make it back to the playoffs, the post-trade deadline time has been a vital one for Scola and the Rockets' future.

What Scola is doing has been done while the Rockets' frontline has been banged up (David Andersen), is young (Jordan Hill, Hilton Armstrong) and is missing its franchise player (Yao Ming). If Scola's last two weeks of play are any prediction of the future, it looks like the Rockets won't have to worry about their quandry at the power forward spot anymore.

If Scola performs at this level up to the All Star game, he's a lock to be an All-Star. Book it!

Thank you Spurs! Again!

[babyfederer]

Scola is too poor defensively to make up for the loss of Bowen, and Duncan's step down defensively, so he isn't the difference between a title and a playoff exit(unless you're hypothetically adding Splitter and Blair to the bench as well)..

With that being said, the Spurs obviously lost a big-time player..I don't buy the "loser" talk..Scola is a role player, his role isn't intended to carry a team, he shouldn't be the difference between titles and playoff exits, that falls on superstars..

Scola is a very good offensive player..he shot 50% in post-up situations, he's obviously one of the best post-up player in the NBA..a good 1 on 1 player, a good pick and roll finisher, crafty at the rim, good at running in transition..he isn't a black hole, so I don't buy the "loser" talk from some people..

He's an average defender and a poor 1 on 1 defender, so that should be considered, but he's still a very good role player with an outstanding offensive repertoire..


dont mean to rub it in just want to point out that his passion and leadership is second to none and that is absolutely priceless, you cant teach stuff like that.

[analyzed]

Spurs management never compared Tiago's game to Scola, but they did compare him to Varejo. The point is Tiago and Scola are different type of players, Scola obviously is better offensively , especially internationally where PF's face up and shoot ( think Dirk , Durant and Carmelo) . While Tiago is a center internatonally. Note internationally the center and powerforward spots are not interchangeble like the NBA. Scola can never play center internationally much more in the NBA. While Tiago definetly can both internationally and the NBA . and oh yeah he is know for his defense like Anderon Verejao. Guys we are comparing Apples with Oranges here

[temujin]

Scola is a scrub because he didn't win the Euroleague.
He won the Olimpycs but not the Euroleague.
Spanoulis is a scrub, although he did win the Euroleague (MVP of the finals, actually).
But he never won the Olimpycs.

Most importantly, they never played for the Spurs.

In the meantime, we have been entertained for 5 frigging YEARS with a zillions threads on

How Ian Mahinmi is going to help the Spurs.
How he had bad luck with his injury (you name which one, and inlude a random date)
How he is recovering fast.
How he is conditioning his upper/lower/middle body
How he has improved his jump shot
How well he has performed with the French NT in -say- the tournement of La-Roche-Sur-Yonne
How the contract of Ian is a plus for the Spurs
How important is to have an athletic big (my coach would say: too bad there is a ball in basketball).

We have seen Ian Mahinmi in this tournement and he is a nonsense player.
An absolute zero, that was payed and nursed for YEARS by the Spurs organization, with a well orchestrated campaing in this forum.

Whott might not have known of all the irrelevant details of the MLEs LLEs and the likes, but at least he was funny and creative in his nonsense.

[polandprzem]

These few additional days of rest are welcomed for a player that has ended late his season last year and who has played with his NT this summer.

The difference between trainign camp and the WC is that few more games at the WC won't help him at all being a better Spur while playing in the training camp will help Splitter being a better Spur.


They are welcomed but in one of the biggest tournaments in basketball...

I mean , I'd rather him accomplish something big then have 2 days of rest more.
doesn't change much in perspective of a rest but changes much in reaching goals area.


But yup bright side for the spurs might be Splitter getting extra 100 minutes of not playing

[silverblackfan]

They are welcomed but in one of the biggest tournaments in basketball...

I mean , I'd rather him accomplish something big then have 2 days of rest more.
doesn't change much in perspective of a rest but changes much in reaching goals area.


But yup bright side for the spurs might be Splitter getting extra 100 minutes of not playing

They lost. It happens. At least he is still healthy.
Its weird. I like the Argentina team more because of Scola and Fabs, but was rooting for Brazil strictly because of Splitter. (Barbosa irritates the crap out of me...)
So would I have liked Brazil to win for Splitter? Of course, but it was a great game and they lost in the end.
The only good I can take away from the tournament now is the experience Splitter gained and that he is not injured.

[Brazil]

Welcome back, LJ.

this is the week of the come backs: d228 and timvp now apparently whott is still missing :depressed

we have and had a lot of :depressed recently

ludden :depressed
whott :depressed
bruce :depressed
prime tim :depressed
d228 :depressed
healthy tp :depressed
mav krew :depressed (just kidding)
scola :depressed

[Indazone]

Here's a fun little read and a Morey Tweet after watching his Power Forward Scola go into "Video God Mode".

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/19738/scola-unstoppable-vs-brazil-moray-says-in-video-game-god-mode

Scola unstoppable vs. Brazil; Morey says 'in video game god mode' (http://www.spurstalk.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/19738/scola-unstoppable-vs-brazil-moray-says-in-video-game-god-mode)

September, 7, 2010 Sep 7
5:08
PM ET

http://a.espncdn.com/i/columnists/Sheridan_Chris_35.jpg (http://search.espn.go.com/chris-sheridan/) By Chris Sheridan
Archive (http://search.espn.go.com/chris-sheridan/)

ISTANBUL -- I don't usually let others write my leads for me, but I'll make an exception in this case and relay what Houston Rockets GM Daryl Morey tweeted (http://twitter.com/dmorey) after watching Luis Scola dominate down the stretch of Argentina's 93-89 victory over Brazil: "Scola goes into video game god mode to finish off Brazil. Wow."

Wow indeed.

Scola made Argentina's last five field goals, didn't miss a shot in the fourth quarter and scored 37 points on 14-for-20 shooting Tuesday night. He also had two assists and a key late steal in one of the more dominating performances I've ever witnessed by a single player in an international basketball game. (Sadly, I only watched Oscar Schmidt of Brazil play in person in 1996, at the tail end of his career).

"It was an amazing basketball game. I wish I was neither Argentinian nor Brazilian so I could have watched the game and enjoyed it from that perspective," said Scola, the leading scorer by far in this tournament with an average of 30.4 points per game.


This was simply a wonderful game to witness (in the U.S. you can watch a replay by clicking here) (http://espn.go.com/espn3/index?id=35362), a dogfight in which neither team led by more than seven points, and it left me wondering two things:

How are the Americans going to defend Scola if they go up against him in the semifinals? (The U.S. needs to defeat Russia, and Argentina must beat Lithuania in order for that to happen.)
Why isn't Brazilian point guard Marcelo Huertas, who had 32 points on 10-of-16 shooting, in the NBA?
I have no answer to that second bullet point, but I know U.S. coach Mike Krzyzewski was wondering the same thing eight days ago when he was effusive in his praise for the 27-year-old after the Americans defeated Brazil by 2 points in a preliminary round game. Tonight, I asked Scola, who spent several seasons in the Spanish League before coming to the the NBA with the Houston Rockets in 2007, how he thinks Huertas would fare in the NBA. His response: "For sure there are worse players than him in the NBA. You never know what might come. If you are a guy who plays that great in the ACB [Spanish League], that's a pretty high level right there. He's definitely NBA talented."

Argentina was ahead 81-79 with just under 3 minutes left when Scola hit a 15-footer. After a miss at the other end by Tiago Splitter, Scola banked a driving layup high off the glass for a six-point lead. Huertas answered with a 3-pointer, Splitter drew a charge on Carlos Delfino, and Marcelo Machado hit two free throws to make it a one-point game, 85-84, with 1:28 left.

Scola hit a jumper in the lane over Anderson Varejao with 1:04 left, then reached in and poked the ball away from Leandro Barbosa in front of the Brazil bench. Next came the killer, a high pick-and-pop play with longtime Argentine point guard Pablo Prigioni that produced a 15-foot jumper that Scola nailed for an 89-84 lead with 24 seconds left.

"Those two have been playing for like 10 years together on the national team, and that was the only way they were able to score," said Huertas, who nailed an incredible 3-pointer -- he launched the shot on the run, twisting his body in mid-air to get around Scola and releasing the ball after his momentum had carried him some 2-3 feet inside the 3-point arc to make it 91-89 with 1.9 seconds left.

Scola then was fouled on the ensuing inbounds play with 1.2 seconds left, made the first free throw and tried to intentionally miss the second in order to let the clock run out. Instead, it banked off the glass and went in to provide the final 4-point margin.

[Indazone]

Scola is too poor defensively to make up for the loss of Bowen, and Duncan's step down defensively, so he isn't the difference between a title and a playoff exit(unless you're hypothetically adding Splitter and Blair to the bench as well)..

With that being said, the Spurs obviously lost a big-time player..I don't buy the "loser" talk..Scola is a role player, his role isn't intended to carry a team, he shouldn't be the difference between titles and playoff exits, that falls on superstars..

Scola is a very good offensive player..he shot 50% in post-up situations, he's obviously one of the best post-up player in the NBA..a good 1 on 1 player, a good pick and roll finisher, crafty at the rim, good at running in transition..he isn't a black hole, so I don't buy the "loser" talk from some people..

He's an average defender and a poor 1 on 1 defender, so that should be considered, but he's still a very good role player with an outstanding offensive repertoire..

I'm liking your role player!! :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

My post wasn't even a shot at Scola, most of what I said about him was a positive, I'm actually a big fan of his game..apparently my definition of role player is different and insulting to Rockets fans..

I don't believe Scola is an all-star type of player until I see him play like an all-star on a consistent basis, and for a long time..that's why I say he's a role player, that's my definition..I believe he's an elite #4 best player on a team, and it wouldn't surprise me if he develops into a decent #3 and an all-star caliber player..right now, he isn't proven enough for me to consider him an all-star..He's a terrific player that can be on a title contender if he's surrounded by players to hide his weaknesses..

I would love having him on the Spurs, as I said in my op..

[ace3g]

Sad thing is (for people complaining about Splitter play against ARG and how he won't succeed in the NBA) Splitter played one of his worst games of the tournament (offensive wise and playing with an injury) and still managed to score 10 pts, 5 boards, 1 blk in 25 minutes and wasn't a hindrance to his team.

People are just overreacting because Splitter was playing against Scola and for some reason expecting him to score more pts; that wasn't going to happen for the sole reason of how Splitter is used in the offense for Brazil.

[Bruno]

I wonder what is the most pathetic:
Spurs fans crying like babies?
or
Rockets fans laughing at Spurs while they are a lottery team?

[Mel_13]

I wonder what is the most pathetic:
Spurs fans crying like babies?
or
Rockets fans laughing at Spurs while they are a lottery team?

While they're both entertaining, the Spurs fans who believe Scola would have brought additional championships to San Antonio are the most pathetic/entertaining.

[smeagol]

Scola!

[Double-Up]

I wonder what is the most pathetic:
Spurs fans crying like babies?
or
Rockets fans laughing at Spurs while they are a lottery team?

You're just a hater, don't be mad. You guys should have kept the fuck but you stupid bastards gave him away for expirings. Enjoy your day brah.

[nkdlunch]

I wonder what is the most pathetic:
Spurs fans crying like babies?
or
Rockets fans laughing at Spurs while they are a lottery team?

French fans crying about both situations?

[duncan228]

Luis Scola rubs salt in old wounds (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/)
by Jesse Blanchard
48 Minutes of Hell

I watched and TiVo’d yesterday’s Brazil vs. Argentina game looking to write another Tiago Splitter post (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2010/08/30/united-states-70-brazil-68-tiago-splitters-solid-first-impression/) for those who might not have had the opportunity to watch it.

Shortly after the game I deleted the program with almost nothing of note on Splitter, mostly because Luis Scola was too depressingly dominant to pay attention to anything else.

There were other notable storylines to be sure. The game itself was terribly exciting and begs the question of why Brazil (and former Argentina) coach Rudy Magnano is not heard of in NBA circles more often, given that he appears to be one of the top coaches in the world.

But the story of the night was best summarized in a Tweet from Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey, “Scola goes into video game god mode to finish off Brazil. Wow (http://twitter.com/dmorey).”

Keep reading → (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2010/09/08/luis-scola-rubs-salt-in-old-wounds/#more-9517)

[DAF86]

Scola is a role player? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thank you Spurs for your "Role" player. This guy averages 20-10 after we trade Landry and gets more than 31.2 min per game. Scola averaging 37 min per game is a beast.

Increased playing time suiting Scola just fine

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/03/18/fiveontherise_week20/index.html
By Jeff Case, NBA.com

Posted Mar 18 2010 12:15PM

Up to the trade deadline, the differences between Carl Landry and Luis Scola in Houston were hard to distinguish. Both played roughly the same amount (Landry averaged 27.2 mpg to Scola's 31.2 mpg), scored about the same (Landry at 16.1 ppg, Scola at 15.6) while Landry was the better shotblocker and Scola was the better rebounder.

Amid all of those statistical similarites was the Rockets' quandry of who to play down the stretch. Do they go with the banging, hustling Landry? Or do they play the jump-shooting, fleet-footed Scola instead? Tired of the guessing game (and more importantly, in need of more scoring), the Rockets dealt Landry to the Kings basically for Kevin Martin. As much as Martin has benefitted from the trade, Scola is doing more now than he ever did with Landry.

Since Landry's trade, Scola has seen his scoring average jump to 20.1 ppg and has played 37 or more minutes seven times in the last 12 games. (By comparison, he played in 37 or more minutes seven times in the Rockets' first 53 games.) His play in the last five games (in which Houston is 4-1) has given the team renewed hope in a late-season surge for the playoffs.

Coach Rick Adelman has praised Scola for his energy and rebounding prowess, something that was on full display last week in a big win over the Nuggets. It was Scola who had two quick baskets as Houston cut into the Nuggets' 11-point fourth-quarter lead, Scola who got an easy fast-break bucket to give Houston a 122-121 lead and Scola who came down with a late defensive rebound that gave Aaron Brooks a free-throw attempt that helped set up the game's final thrilling sequence.

While the Rockets have a steep climb to make it back to the playoffs, the post-trade deadline time has been a vital one for Scola and the Rockets' future.

What Scola is doing has been done while the Rockets' frontline has been banged up (David Andersen), is young (Jordan Hill, Hilton Armstrong) and is missing its franchise player (Yao Ming). If Scola's last two weeks of play are any prediction of the future, it looks like the Rockets won't have to worry about their quandry at the power forward spot anymore.

If Scola performs at this level up to the All Star game, he's a lock to be an All-Star. Book it!

Thank you Spurs! Again!

Scola will never be an all-star with Brooks and Martin on the backcourt of the team he plays in.

lol Rockets.

[Indazone]

I wonder what is the most pathetic:
Spurs fans crying like babies?
or
Rockets fans laughing at Spurs while they are a lottery team?

:tu :lol

[temujin]

French fans crying about both situations?

This, plus telling us how good Mahinmi was and Decolo will be.

[Bruno]

:lmao

While it's logical for Scola to have some good and bad games, it's laughable to see all the whining when he has a good game and the silence when he has a bad game.

[temujin]

Post count down to 13, taking into account the non games by Mahinmi and Decolo.
AND the details about the monthly salary of players #14 and 15.

[Brazil]

:lmao

While it's logical for Scola to have some good and bad games, it's laughable to see all the whining when he has a good game and the silence when he has a bad game.

I knew this poor scola performance would make someone happy, so whott was right ?

[polandprzem]

I wonder what is the most pathetic:
Spurs fans crying like babies?
or
Rockets fans laughing at Spurs while they are a lottery team?

Specific letters posted in a specific order in this post manage to put me in a very cheerful state and left my lips in smirk for few seconds as well as made myself to free a voice from inside of me called laugh.


THX :tu