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Wild Cobra
09-05-2010, 09:29 PM
Future hiring will mainly benefit the high-skilled (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2012817696_apapfnusemploymentfuturejobs.html?syndi cation=rss)

Doesn't look good for the general welfare of this nation. Lead paragraph:


Whenever companies start hiring freely again, job-seekers with specialized skills and education will have plenty of good opportunities. Others will face a choice: Take a job with low pay — or none at all.

boutons_deux
09-05-2010, 10:07 PM
The wealthy class' War on the lower 95% has been won.

Middle class hollowed out, stagnant or decreasing real income (if you still have income), increasing costs for college and health insurance/health, the banks All Fuck All Y'all All The Time.

Now Magic Negro's hyper-secret Deficit (Con Job) Commission (aka "We Wealthy Vampires Smell That Y'all Still Have Some Drops of Socialist Blood Left) is going after Soc Sec, Medicare, Medicaid, child health insurance, veterans' benefits. Thanks, Alan Simspon, you senile old asshole, for telegraphing the DefComm's attack plans.


Soc Sec contribs will be raised (but the cap for wealthy will be reduced more), retirement age will be raised, Medicare/Medicaid payments will be reduced, and millions will be disqualified.

The Movement Conservatives + Repugs, aka a front groups/proxies for the hyper-wealthy, are nearing the end of killing The American Dream. The fucked Americans are gonna Keep Dreamin The Impossible Dream.

Alan Simpson and Pete Peterson, of all people, on the Deficit (Con Job) Commission? WTF, Magic Negro?

All we need now to complete the destruction is for the Repugs to bomb Iran, and invade from the East and West, kill them brown Muslims and grab their oil, and hand out 100s of $Bs (debt financed, of course) to the corrupt MIC.

It's all to pay for the $Ts in tax cuts for the wealthy and for the Repugs bullshit wars.

The Beast Is Fully Starved, the Wealth Hyenas, Corporate-Americans, Infected Scavengers are roaming the country to pick off the last bits of flesh from the Human-Americans.

Wild Cobra
09-05-2010, 10:18 PM
Soc Sec contribs will be raised (but the cap for wealthy will be reduced more), retirement age will be raised, Medicare/Medicaid payments will be reduced, and millions will be disqualified.

How about we just cap all income taxes at a maximum 25% of gross when the tax increases come around in 2011 and change what we call social security insurance.

Make it mandatory that employers give a 7.45% pay increase giving the payroll taxes to the employees to pay. Do away with SS/Medicare insurance premiums, and making work pay. Now introduce a "social tax" at 13.87% of wages, replacing the SS/medicare. The employee will still have the same net pay after this deduction. However....

We never change the income tax brackets again. If congress wants more money to spend, they have to increase the "social tax" which all working citizens will pay. They can decrease it as well. This way, all voters who work have a stake in any tax rate changes, and will vote accordingly.

boutons_deux
09-05-2010, 11:53 PM
Financial vampires ipping off dead vets insurance? You Betcha!

Ripping Off Dead War Vets' Beneficiaries


Three firms, including Prudential and Metropolitan Life, handle retained-asset [fake] accounts for about 130 life insurers. No public records show how much, but at least $28 billion is involved.

http://readersupportednews.org/off-site-news-section/96-96/3226-ripping-off-dead-war-vets-beneficiaries

Wild Cobra
09-05-2010, 11:59 PM
I guess these "too big to fail" corporations are given the "go ahead" to rip Americans off by this administration, right?

Afterall, it is these corporate aspects that democrats are in bed with.

DMX7
09-06-2010, 01:37 PM
I guess these "too big to fail" corporations are given to go to rip Americans off by this administration, huh?

what?

Nbadan
09-06-2010, 02:42 PM
:rolleyes

Highly skilled workers and A type personality closers are always hired first...duh!

Wild Cobra
09-06-2010, 08:02 PM
what?
Yes, I screwed up that didn't I...

Ooopppppsssssie...

I edited it.

CosmicCowboy
09-07-2010, 09:44 AM
Looks like the recovery jobs will be infrastructure and involve shovels (literally) or "Green Jobs" that involve insulation and caulking guns.

Sweet.

MannyIsGod
09-07-2010, 09:51 AM
Those are highly skilled?

CosmicCowboy
09-07-2010, 10:00 AM
Those are highly skilled?

Well, thats where the proposed stimulus is going. Roads, bridges, runways, and "green jobs"....which is a euphemism for tax credits for insulation and caulking.

coyotes_geek
09-07-2010, 11:13 AM
Those are highly skilled?

Most construction jobs qualify as skilled. Not to mention the engineering that goes into them.

MannyIsGod
09-07-2010, 01:09 PM
The engineering the goes into those jobs is obviously highly skilled but I don't think someone has to be highly skilled to lay some insulation. Of course what I consider highly skilled and what the definition of high skilled jobs are may very well be two different things.

If the information in the article in the OP is a surprise to anyone then they've probably been living under a rock.

CosmicCowboy
09-07-2010, 02:26 PM
Plus a lot of the engineering is now being outsourced to India.

Wild Cobra
09-07-2010, 09:48 PM
Looks like the recovery jobs will be infrastructure and involve shovels (literally) or "Green Jobs" that involve insulation and caulking guns.

Sweet.
Maybe I simply cannot connect the dots, but I don't see green jobs as being anything big for several years still. It's still mostly hype. It isn't cheaper, and will not be for some time. There is a small market demand willing to pay the premium for it, but as for growing to the general population... I think not.

CosmicCowboy
09-07-2010, 10:02 PM
Maybe I simply cannot connect the dots, but I don't see green jobs as being anything big for several years still. It's still mostly hype. It isn't cheaper, and will not be for some time. There is a small market demand willing to pay the premium for it, but as for growing to the general population... I think not.

Anything that "saves energy" gets counted as a green job...tax credits for insulated windows, tax credits for insulation, tax credits for "energy audits" on homes and caulking cracks, tax credits for energy star appliances, etc.

Wild Cobra
09-07-2010, 11:12 PM
Anything that "saves energy" gets counted as a green job...tax credits for insulated windows, tax credits for insulation, tax credits for "energy audits" on homes and caulking cracks, tax credits for energy star appliances, etc.
But we've been doing that for years. Not much more ground to cover that is economically feasible.

MannyIsGod
09-08-2010, 10:38 AM
But we've been doing that for years. Not much more ground to cover that is economically feasible.

Why do you say shit that is so blatantly false and stupid?

boutons_deux
09-08-2010, 11:23 AM
WC is deeply, simplistically ideologically motivated, aka, stupid.

Wild Cobra
09-08-2010, 01:41 PM
Why do you say shit that is so blatantly false and stupid?
Fuel mileage standards, energy star equipment, low-E windows, Krypton filled windows, higher R value insulation...

I can go on and on. All these jobs are already there, and have been. New jobs my ass.

Remember now, This is a response to:


Anything that "saves energy" gets counted as a green job...tax credits for insulated windows, tax credits for insulation, tax credits for "energy audits" on homes and caulking cracks, tax credits for energy star appliances, etc.

Wild Cobra
09-08-2010, 01:42 PM
WC is deeply, simplistically ideologically motivated, aka, stupid.
Only in a mind like yours that cannot see outside the box. We shouldn't even ask you to think outside the box.

boutons_deux
09-08-2010, 02:28 PM
WC can't see outside his ideological conservative Ivory Tower.

I think outside the box all time. I have the radical idea that govt ought to function so well nobdy thinks about it. How crazy outside is that?

CosmicCowboy
09-08-2010, 03:22 PM
I think outside the box all time. I have the radical idea that govt ought to function so well nobdy thinks about it. How crazy outside is that?

Totally batshit crazy.

boutons_deux
09-08-2010, 03:34 PM
.... opinion from within the box. GFY

coyotes_geek
09-08-2010, 04:42 PM
I think outside the box all time. I have the radical idea that govt ought to function so well nobdy thinks about it. How crazy outside is that?

So your radical idea is for the populace to exist in a state of blissful ignorance, unburdened by thoughts about what the benevolent mother government might be doing with the money it takes from it's citizen children.

+1 on totally batshit crazy.

boutons_deux
09-08-2010, 04:43 PM
"So your radical idea is for the populace to exist in a state of blissful ignorance"

that's your straw man, knock 'em down, tiger.

coyotes_geek
09-08-2010, 05:06 PM
Right. Strawman. Gotcha. Don't worry boutons. Mommy government has your best interests at heart.

There is a fee involved though............

TDMVPDPOY
09-08-2010, 05:12 PM
seems like those new jobs are targeted at tradespeople like carpenters, electricians, construction, builders...

Yonivore
09-08-2010, 07:15 PM
In Cleveland, Illinois today, the President said "government should be lean."

http://www.jec.senate.gov/republicans/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=a4c3d652-5120-4a2e-9d3c-10ef1331253e&type=.jpg

Does he understand the concept?