Report: Bush to be stripped of Heisman

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Sources: Trust to take Bush’s Heisman

By Charles Robinson and Jason Cole 1 hour, 59 minutes ago





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The Heisman Trophy Trust is expected to strip former University of Southern California star running back Reggie Bush of college football’s top honor by the end of September, sources told Yahoo! Sports.
Bush would become the first player in the 75-year history of the award to have the trophy taken away. The NCAA found major violations in the Trojans’ football program in June and levied serious sanctions against the school.
Two sources close to the Heisman trust said the body’s investigation is coming to a close, and will ultimately concur with the NCAA’s determination (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ys-uscpenalties061010) that Bush was ineligible during his Heisman-winning season in 2005. Because of that independent conclusion, sources said the trust will relieve Bush of the award and leave the honor for that season vacant. The sources said Bush met with Heisman representatives last month at the New York law offices of Emmet, Marvin & Martin. The sources would not reveal details of that meeting.
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Bush, now a standout with the Super Bowl champion New Orleans Saints (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nor/), could not immediately be reached for comment.
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2010/09/ipt/1283862813.jpg?&sig=J.VqPSvVMlQ.oXJ8J.a5yQ-- It appears as if the Heisman Trophy Trust is about to strip Reggie Bush of his 2005 trophy.
Julie Jacobson/AP

The Heisman trust has been conducting its own independent inquiry into Bush’s eligibility since the NCAA ruled in June that the USC star had committed multiple violations by accepting cash, gifts and other impermissible benefits while playing for the Trojans. Yahoo! Sports first detailed the extra benefits (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ys-bushprobe) in September 2006. In its findings, the NCAA retroactively ruled Bush ineligible for part of the 2004 season and all of 2005. The NCAA also ordered the USC program to remove all references to Bush from its sporting venues and promotional materials and vacate his statistics from all games in which he was ineligible.
In July, incoming USC president C.L. Max Nikias announced that the university would be returning its copy of Bush’s Heisman to the trust, stating the Trojans would honor and respect athletes who “did not compromise their athletic program or the opportunities of future USC student-athletes.” New USC athletic director Pat Haden followed up in August, stating during an interview with the Dan Patrick radio show that Bush should also voluntarily return his Heisman.
While others pressed for a swift decision, the trust opted for a patient, meticulous effort. Sources said the trust did its own detailed investigation over the past three months, using a litany of resources and reviewing its information against the NCAA’s findings. The trust also offered Bush a chance to impact the decision.
The process apparently came with considerable debate – in part because of the trust’s quest for due process, but also because of the unique nature of the decision. Never in the history of the award has the trust been forced to retroactively rule on the eligibility of a past winner. That reality, along with the NCAA’s findings, created a tangled knot of deliberation regarding the trust’s place in the role of enforcement. Sources said the prominent issues discussed included accountability, on-field vs. off-field conduct, implications of retroactively stripping an award and possible impact on future athletes and the NCAA.
Two factors outweighed all others, sources said: The Heisman ballot necessitates candidates be in compliance with NCAA bylaws and concern over the Heisman’s reputation in the wake of the NCAA findings against Bush.
The status of USC’s 2004 Bowl Championship Series national title remains to be determined. BCS officials are awaiting the NCAA’s ruling on the Trojans’ appeal of the June finding.
Contact Yahoo! Sports investigative reporter Charles Robinson at [email protected]

[slick'81]

would i say hes a cheater no but he does deserve to lose his trophy

[redzero]

Well, he has a different trophy now so it's all good.

[dirk4mvp]

weird how you didn't start posting in the nfl forum until the Saints started winning :lol

[LoneStarState'sPride]

I do not agree--cheating or not, he was unquestionably the best player in football that year, IMHO. Stripping him of the Heisman does not change that.

[clambake]

vince young should have won it. he singlehandedly destroyed the football factory.

[redzero]

weird how you didn't start posting in the nfl forum until the Saints started winning :lol

I barely post in this forum ever.

And it's not like I could join SpursTalk in March of 2009 and then go back in time and post when the Saints didn't make the playoffs.

[dirk4mvp]

what? there wouldn't have been any need to go back in time, fairweather Saints fan.

[redzero]

am I not allowed to post in the NFL forum now?

And what team are you a fan of, again?

[samikeyp]

Take the hardware...next time, don't cheat. Is it fair? Probably not but rules are rules and if they are broken, you have to be dealt with accordingly.

[dirk4mvp]

am I not allowed to post in the NFL forum now?

nope, the nfl forum has a strict no faggot policy.




And what team are you a fan of, again?

Been a Pats/Cowboys fan for as long as I can remember. And that makes me less fair weather than yourself.

[redzero]

What kind of fraud fan roots for two teams?

dirk4mvp sure is hurt in the butt over me posting in the NFL forum right now.

[Roddy Beaubois]

Been a Pats/Cowboys fan for as long as I can remember

good to see you on the bandwagon tbh :tu

[stretch]

I do not agree--cheating or not, he was unquestionably the best player in football that year, IMHO.

your opinion is wrong. VY was most definitely superior. plus, he knew how to lateral properly.

[dirk4mvp]

My dad's family is from Dallas and my mom's family is from Bawston. Not hard to grasp. And you are on the same level of faggotry as the Jets fan who didn't show up until the AFCCG

[dirk4mvp]

good to see you on the bandwagon tbh :tu

Dez Bryant's hands won me over tbh.

[samikeyp]

What kind of fraud fan roots for two teams?


You should meet JGW. :)

Ducks also comes to mind.

[Roddy Beaubois]

tbh if Dirk4 wanted to burn redzero he should have just followed the 90210 format:

I was raised a Cowboys fan. My first shirt as a baby was a Dallas Cowboys shirt. I didn't grow up with the money to go to a game and every job I've had since now has had me working on Sundays. This is the first season I've had a job that allows me off on a Sunday...so what am I doing? Going to a fucking game. STFU.

[IronMexican]

Did Bush catch any balls while running the Dragon?

[redzero]

Yeah, the ol' "my father's half-brother was from x" excuse.

lol at a fan of the Cowboys and Patriots complaining about somebody else.

I wasn't even posting in this forum for the majority of last season, either. Heaven forbid I make one post about the Saints in the NFL forum.

I think you need to relax and root for two teams at once like any true fan would.

[IronMexican]

Troll line

[dirk4mvp]

Yeah, the ol' "my father's half-brother was from x" excuse.

lol at a fan of the Cowboys and Patriots complaining about somebody else.

I wasn't even posting in this forum for the majority of last season, either. Heaven forbid I make one post about the Saints in the NFL forum.

I think you need to relax and root for two teams at once like any true fan would.

So I shouldn't root for the teams my parents raised me to root for?

[redzero]

You should root for the home team and stop being a butthurt, bandwagoning faget.

[IronMexican]

redzero, mediafire! It's down! It's down!The horror.

[dirk4mvp]

>bandwagoing faget
>saints fan

So were you a Saints fan when they were going 3-13? I've been rooting for my teams much longer.

[redzero]

:cry stop rooting for the Saints :cry
real fans root for teams that are hundreds of miles away :cry

How can I bandwagon the home team? Oh, you wouldn't know anything about that since you root for the Cowboys AND the Patriots.

:cry Such loyalty to two lesser known and praised teams.

According to butthurt Saints fans haters such as yourself, nobody in New Orleans ever watched the Saints before last season. It's kind of similar to the widespread belief that people in L.A. discovered that the Lakers existed when the Gasol trade went down.



redzero, mediafire! It's down! It's down!The horror.

Megaupload that shit.

[IronMexican]

I'm downloading a game on megaupload. And I would use megaupload, but my premium just ran out. fuuuuuu.

[dirk4mvp]

tbh what's funnier than you being a fairweather Saints fan is how loosely you're using the word butthurt in this thread while most of your posts ITT are drenched with butthurt.

:cry he roots for teams where his family is from, how dare he :cry

[samikeyp]

You should root for the home team and stop being a butthurt, bandwagoning faget.

The closest home team to me is Detroit....I need to root for them?

Then again, I am from SA so we didn't have a home NFL team...so....I can't root for anyone....aww man. :depressed

:)

[redzero]

:lol

My posts are drenched with butthurt? I made one post in this thread and you started crying about me being a fairweather fan, cause apparently you can tell by me making one post on one sports forum about the Saints.

Stay mad, my friend.

[BRHornet45]

sons this isn't Madden where you can just turn the game off whenever you're mad. In baseball how about they go back and take away all of Roger Clemens strikeouts and wins. Or take away Barry Bonds and A-Rods home runs, hits, etc. as if they never happened. the NCAA needs to grow up and allow these athletes who are making MILLIONS of dollars for them a little bit of slack. Regardless if what Bush did was wrong or not, I just don't agree with a punishment technique of going back in time and taking away victories, trophies, etc. as if it never happened.

[4>0rings]

Hahaha Bush took an old Caprice or Impala... whatever that POS was.

[samikeyp]

sons this isn't Madden where you can just turn the game off whenever you're mad. In baseball how about they go back and take away all of Roger Clemens strikeouts and wins. Or take away Barry Bonds and A-Rods home runs, hits, etc. as if they never happened. the NCAA needs to grow up and allow these athletes who are making MILLIONS of dollars for them a little bit of slack. Regardless if what Bush did was wrong or not, I just don't agree with a punishment technique of going back in time and taking away victories, trophies, etc. as if it never happened.

Yeah but you have to do something....its not fair to penalize current players and coaches for something that happened when none of them were there.

[BRHornet45]

Yeah but you have to do something....its not fair to penalize current players and coaches for something that happened when none of them were there.

yea but its absolutely ridiculous for the NCAA to get so childish about it and play "time machine" and go back and take wins and trophies away. College football is already tarnished enough as it is with their NEVER being a legit National Champion each year, and now this type of crap.

The problem isn't the players, the schools, or the agents ... its the NCAA and their greed. If they weren't so damn uptight and didn't treat their players like slaves then maybe we wouldn't have as much of this under the table type of crap. I think that college athletes should be allowed some type of small salary/allowance for the time they put into their sport. These kids (not the school, not the coach, not the NCAA) are making MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of dollars for them. The coaches can be wined and dined all over the country and make ridiculous multi-million dollar salaries, but God forbid a player gets anything over a $100 gift. I'm not trying to say that college athletes deserve huge salaries or anything like that don't get me wrong. But would it be that big of a crime to give each of them somewhere in the range of a $15-25k per year allowance/salary? If its ok for a coach like Les Miles to make like $4 million per year, then I don't have a problem with the kids who are actually earning all of that money to receive a small cut.

[samikeyp]

Well that's one thing we agree on, son...the NCAA is full of shit.

[samikeyp]

and yes, allowing the kid to have a job during football season isn't going to cause some major problem...let the kid work and at least have a little pocket money.

[BRHornet45]

and yes, allowing the kid to have a job during football season isn't going to cause some major problem...let the kid work and at least have a little pocket money.

- at least 12 hours per week of class is required

- 20-30 hours per week of practice

- unlimited amount of gym time

- study time for classes

- study time for playbooks

It would be hard for any student athlete to have a part time job and maintain all of the above. I say set aside $1-2 million per year (which is chump change for 90% of all Universities) and give each student athlete a yearly allowance of $15,000. In weekly paychecks that would be more than enough to take care of their personal bills and other needs. Again ... if a choke artist coach like Bob Stoops and a never proved himself choking vagina like Lane Kiffin can earn millions, then the players should receive something as well.

[BruceBowenFan]

Hell yea bush gets what he deserves, I for one am glad they are taking away the trophy send a message to other college players.

[san antonio spurs]

:lol @ Dirk's shot at Mono.
Not cool brah

[Steve Kerr]

give each student athlete a yearly allowance of $15,000.
:lol thinking schools don't already do that in one indirect form or another.

[J.T.]

You should root for the home team and stop being a butthurt, bandwagoning faget.

The NFL has been a global brand for a while now brah. The "root for the home team" excuse is long dead.

[Spursfan092120]

I do not agree--cheating or not, he was unquestionably the best player in football that year, IMHO. Stripping him of the Heisman does not change that.
Dude..he may have been, but unquestionably? No...Vince Young was phenomenal that year...he owned everyone. Reggie's last couple of games placed him above Vince...maybe. But Vince was the best player on the field in the most important game of the year.

[J.T.]

sons this isn't Madden where you can just turn the game off whenever you're mad.

lol were you the guy i played last night with the saints that loaded up the nano on defense every play and got butthurt that austin collie got two long tds off of drags over the middle and then quit after you fumbled the kickoff right back to me at the 12 yard line and then turned off the game?

"connection to your peer has been lost" is my favorite kind of win

[Spursfan092120]

The closest home team to me is Detroit....I need to root for them?

Then again, I am from SA so we didn't have a home NFL team...so....I can't root for anyone....aww man. :depressed

:)
:lmao

I think it's hilarious people say that. MavDynasty acted like I didn't have the right to root for the Cowboys because I've only been to Dallas once in my life. Ridiculous. I've probably been a Cowboy fan longer than he's been alive.

[J.T.]

I am from the valley and we have no pro teams of any kind, so I'm pretty much open to root for whoever the fuck I want. But growing up in SA kind of conditions you to be a Spurs fan cuz thats all there is to do there.

[Spursfan092120]

I am from the valley and we have no pro teams of any kind, so I'm pretty much open to root for whoever the fuck I want. But growing up in SA kind of conditions you to be a Spurs fan cuz thats all there is to do there.
werd

[ducks]

he knew the rules
even though I do not agree with them all

he should be stripped
but the major league sports should stipe awards and titles to cheaters also
BUSH=cheater

[SpursFanFirst]

:tu He never should've been given the trophy. What sucks, though, is that there were probably plenty of deserving individuals that year, and they'll never have that chance again.

[monosylab1k]

Yeah, the ol' "my father's half-brother was from x" excuse.

lol at a fan of the Cowboys and Patriots complaining about somebody else.

I wasn't even posting in this forum for the majority of last season, either. Heaven forbid I make one post about the Saints in the NFL forum.

I think you need to relax and root for two teams at once like any true fan would.


How can I bandwagon the home team? Oh, you wouldn't know anything about that since you root for the Cowboys AND the Patriots.

:cry Such loyalty to two lesser known and praised teams.

According to butthurt Saints fans haters such as yourself, nobody in New Orleans ever watched the Saints before last season. It's kind of similar to the widespread belief that people in L.A. discovered that the Lakers existed when the Gasol trade went down.

crofl nigga you got trolled the fuck out.

[MavDynasty]

lol getting fucking trolled :lmao :lmao

[BUMP]

give each student athlete a yearly allowance of $15,000.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao X 90000000

As if these guys don't get enough already? Tuition all paid for, free housing (in the nicest campus housing possible), free campus food plans, free tutoring all because they're really good at a game. And now they should get $15,000? :rollin:rollin

[Spursfan092120]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao X 90000000

As if these guys don't get enough already? Tuition all paid for, free housing (in the nicest campus housing possible), free campus food plans, free tutoring all because they're really good at a game. And now they should get $15,000? :rollin:rollin
this. These guys get a free top quality education(if they take advantage of it), free room and board, free food, free tutoring(if needed), and pretty much get to be the BMOC for 4 years..use your education to earn some money when you get out.

[J.T.]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao X 90000000

As if these guys don't get enough already? Tuition all paid for, free housing (in the nicest campus housing possible), free campus food plans, free tutoring all because they're really good at a game. And now they should get $15,000? :rollin:rollin

mother fucking cosigned

ncaa athletes dont even need spending money to buy cocaine and beer after the game and if they play for oklahoma they even get free red escalades

[SpursFanFirst]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao X 90000000

As if these guys don't get enough already? Tuition all paid for, free housing (in the nicest campus housing possible), free campus food plans, free tutoring all because they're really good at a game. And now they should get $15,000? :rollin:rollin

I agree. That is a ridiculous notion.

[redzero]

crofl nigga you got trolled the fuck out.

lol ok

dirk4mvp is the butthurt one, crying over me posting this forum.

I mean, two teams? :lmao

[monosylab1k]

:lol @ Dirk's shot at Mono.
Not cool brah

tbh dirk4mvp could never reveal the real team he roots for to redzero, for fear he'd get a bunch of

"oh really, rememba det one time reggie wayne ran a curl route in the Super Bowl like it was training camp and he didn't give a shit?"

and then maybe a few of these

"lol tracy porter"

"lol onside kick"

and then maybe a youtube video would be posted, such as this one -

DBlvjtfpPAg

tbh that's why dirk wouldn't just say he's a colts fan to a saints fan. for fear something like that might happen.

[monosylab1k]

*cue a bunch of lol 18-1, lol helmet catch, lol eli retorts

[Spursfan092120]

lol ok

dirk4mvp is the butthurt one, crying over me posting this forum.

I mean, two teams? :lmao
Where are these rules that state a guy can't cheer for more than one team? I'd love to see them. There's nothing wrong with cheering for two teams..especially if they're in different conferences.

[monosylab1k]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao X 90000000

As if these guys don't get enough already? Tuition all paid for, free housing (in the nicest campus housing possible), free campus food plans, free tutoring all because they're really good at a game. And now they should get $15,000? :rollin:rollin

I agree, but at the same time, even with all those benefits, big name players like Reggie Bush are still ridiculously undercompensated considering the amount of money they bring in for the school.

[IronMexican]

3rd and 5 for Eli. What does he do? He does some nigga shit and avoids a sack and throws a bomb for some miracle catch.

Peyton? He throws it to his best receiver and can't even get that right.

What am I trying to say? lol pats and colts

[J.T.]

tbh the tracy porter interception return video is old news because we all know many saints players including porter and brees took ungodly amounts of PEDs last season to enable them to beat a top tier team like the colts in the super bowl.

also mvp curse, reggie wayne still a saints fan and shaved points, etc

[MavDynasty]

lol thinking dirk is a cowboys n pats fan

[monosylab1k]

3rd and 5 for Eli. What does he do? He does some nigga shit and avoids a sack and throws a bomb for some miracle catch.

Peyton? He throws it to his best receiver and can't even get that right.

What am I trying to say? lol pats and colts

crofl pretty good.

tbh tho, how about

"hey our head coach left a year ago and now we're playing his team in the super bowl. think we should change our playbook since he knows it?"

"nope let's just get curbstomped"

"lol ok"

[redzero]

Oh yeah, I forgot that you are the one who is the Pats fan and dirk4mvp is the Colts fan.

So that's why he is so butthurt about Saints fans.

I didn't even come here to talk shit to him, so I guess he is the Ghazi of the NFL board with his butthurt.

[IronMexican]

lol omg. Fucking Bill Callahan. lol 5 picks.

[Spursfan092120]

lol thinking dirk is a cowboys n pats fan
I was here last season..I know what team he roots for..just sayin..nothing wrong with someone cheering for more than one team...I personally have one team, but if someone wants to cheer for two teams, it's their prerogative.

[J.T.]

Where are these rules that state a guy can't cheer for more than one team? I'd love to see them. There's nothing wrong with cheering for two teams..especially if they're in different conferences.

well shit if 90210 says its cool to rep 2 teams then i guess i need a mistress team

i pick the saints

super bowl champs nigga

[monosylab1k]

I didn't even come here to talk shit to him, so I guess he is the Ghazi of the NFL board with his butthurt.

tbh i won't argue det one

[redzero]

Where are these rules that state a guy can't cheer for more than one team? I'd love to see them. There's nothing wrong with cheering for two teams..especially if they're in different conferences.

How about I root for all 32 teams? That way, I could never be disappointed.

[MavDynasty]

I was here last season..I know what team he roots for..just sayin..nothing wrong with someone cheering for more than one team...I personally have one team, but if someone wants to cheer for two teams, it's their prerogative.

:lmao thinking i was talking to you

[IronMexican]

and dirk gets butthurt over everything.

[J.T.]

Oh yeah, I forgot that you are the one who is the Pats fan and dirk4mvp is the Colts fan.

So that's why he is so butthurt about Saints fans.

I didn't even come here to talk shit to him, so I guess he is the Ghazi of the NFL board with his butthurt.

dont take it personal we just have a rookie hazing policy in the nfl forum and if you refuse to carry our pads we shove them up your ass instead of deferring to the rookie like roy williams

[monosylab1k]

also, let me just get this straight, redzero you say you should always root for the home team?

meaning if you ever had to move out of new orleans (lol hurricanes) and relocated to pittsburgh, you'd become a steelers fan? and then if you ever left pittsburgh (lol shitty city) and moved to minnesota you'd be a vikings fan?

because tbh that's fuckin gayer than rooting for a team hundreds of miles away.

[J.T.]

because tbh that's fuckin gayer than rooting for a team hundreds of miles away.

nigga you dont live in boston so idk why you're playing that card

[Steve Kerr]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao X 90000000

As if these guys don't get enough already? Tuition all paid for, free housing (in the nicest campus housing possible), free campus food plans, free tutoring all because they're really good at a game. And now they should get $15,000? :rollin:rollin
BR is just being retarded. When my dad went to Maryland he told me about a kid who got paid $1,000 every two weeks to turn the spinklers on and off. They already get $15,000 a year in allowance one way or another. You'd have to be a complete dipshit to think all they really get are free tuition + housing + meals.

[IronMexican]

Any bullshit about your cousin's uncles great grandfathers mother-in law being from Boston should also be voided.

[redzero]

Let me get my true fandom handbook. brb

[monosylab1k]

nigga you dont live in boston so idk why you're playing that card

nigga i lived in boston for years growing up, and if you don't believe me you should look at my korean brother's birth certificate.

[IronMexican]

:lmao DoK actually believed that.

[IronMexican]

"Why would they lie to me"

:lmao

[J.T.]

Let me get my true fandom handbook. brb

tbh all it says in there is root for any team but the lakers, cowboys and yankees

2008 edition updated to include steelers after their fake super bowl wins

[IronMexican]

"Why would they lie to me"

:lmao

[monosylab1k]

crofl tbh mavs>spurs would jizz his pants if he ever discovered we were telling the truth and we really are half korean niggas.

[Steve Kerr]

The way IronMexican obsesses over me makes me feel 14 all over again.

[monosylab1k]

The way IronMexican obsesses over me makes me feel 14 all over again.

:lol

[J.T.]

The way IronMexican obsesses over me makes me feel 14 all over again.

it doesnt make you feel like the radiohead frontman?

[J.T.]

i said frontman but i meant frontdouche

my mistake

[Steve Kerr]

it doesnt make you feel like the radiohead frontman?
Good point. It makes me feel like a 14 year old Thom Yorke.

[Steve Kerr]

I also find it funny he scoffs me for thinking mono and stretch are brothers as if he knows for a fact they aren't.

[IronMexican]

It would be cool if stretch and mono were brothers. But everyone knows you don't believe anything stretch says. He still likes to pretend he isn't Phillip.

[Steve Kerr]

It would be cool if stretch and mono were brothers. But everyone knows you don't believe anything stretch says. He still likes to pretend he isn't Phillip.
Whoever said I heard it from stretch?

[J.T.]

the only thing i dont believe that stretch says is how hed skull fuck anyone at madden

i think id put him on clamps but he never gets on ps3

[IronMexican]

Who did you hear it from? mono. We need proof that they are bothers.

I don't think they are, since they have different allegiances when it comes to college and NFL.

[IronMexican]

And I really didn't realize that it upsets you when I talk about you. I apologize. It's nothing compared to the way Balkman used to follow me around on this site. It was like every post he was there.

[Steve Kerr]

I don't think they are, since they have different allegiances when it comes to college and NFL.
The NFL I'll give you, but there's no way someone is that big a VY nuthugger without ever being a Horns fan.

[Steve Kerr]

And I really didn't realize that it upsets you when I talk about you. I apologize. It's nothing compared to the way Balkman used to follow me around on this site. It was like every post he was there.
It used to bother me until I realized you were kidding.

And yes, the way Balkman commented on what you should be wearing was funny, hopefully you returned the favor with advice on his jawline.

[san antonio spurs]

tbh dirk4mvp could never reveal the real team he roots for to redzero, for fear he'd get a bunch of

"oh really, rememba det one time reggie wayne ran a curl route in the Super Bowl like it was training camp and he didn't give a shit?"

and then maybe a few of these

"lol tracy porter"

"lol onside kick"

and then maybe a youtube video would be posted, such as this one -

DBlvjtfpPAg

tbh that's why dirk wouldn't just say he's a colts fan to a saints fan. for fear something like that might happen.

Really smart of him.:lol

[Roddy Beaubois]

The NFL has been a global brand for a while now brah. The "root for the home team" excuse is long dead.

crofl bandwagon mentality imho

[monosylab1k]

tbh there's nothing more mindless and sheeplike than going by the standard "I grew up in Dallas and my daddeh's a Cowboy fan, right after I popped outta my mommeh's vagina they wrapped me in a Cowboy blanket, so by God I'm gonna be a Cowboys fan too :cry"

[IronMexican]

tbh there's nothing more mindless and sheeplike than going by the standard "I grew up and Dallas and my daddeh's a Cowboy fan, so by God I'm gonna be a Cowboys fan too :cry"

Why I'm a Raiders fan. Not just my dad, but my whole family. A couple Rams fans, here and there.

[Steve Kerr]

Tbh that's a lot better than the typical Arizona beaner, "Back in the day when my daddy was a bean packer in Mexico he and everyone on the bean farm rooted for the Cowboys, so that means I'm a Cowboys fan!"

[monosylab1k]

Why I'm a Raiders fan. Not just my dad, but my whole family. A couple Rams fans, here and there.

If you legitimately pick the Raiders as your team, fine. If you pick them just because you've been told your whole life to root for the Raiders, then that's retarded.

[monosylab1k]

tbh my non-Korean dad is from Los Angeles and he tried to indoctrinate me with evil Lakers propaganda, but I knew from an early age that he was leading me to something horrible, which is why I'm a Mavs fan.

[IronMexican]

If you legitimately pick the Raiders as your team, fine. If you pick them just because you've been told your whole life to root for the Raiders, then that's retarded.

Hah, no. I picked them. Once IronMexican has a kid, he's definitely going to be a Raider fan, though. I say he cause I'll never have a Daughter.

[monosylab1k]

tbh stretch is a Raiders fan partly cuz of our non-Korean dad, partly cuz of Bo Jackson in Tecmo Super Bowl.

I'm a Pats fan because I had a man-crush on Drew Bledsoe (lol yeah right bandwagoner)

[MavDynasty]

tbh there's nothing more mindless and sheeplike than going by the standard "I grew up in Dallas and my daddeh's a Cowboy fan, right after I popped outta my mommeh's vagina they wrapped me in a Cowboy blanket, so by God I'm gonna be a Cowboys fan too :cry"

sup 92120


?? I was raised a Cowboys fan. My first shirt as a baby was a Dallas Cowboys shirt. I didn't grow up with the money to go to a game and every job I've had since now has had me working on Sundays. This is the first season I've had a job that allows me off on a Sunday...so what am I doing? Going to a fucking game. STFU

[Roddy Beaubois]

Im a cowboy fan for the same reason Im a mav fan. I was born in Dallas. Those our the teams I can go see live and the teams that are on TV for every game.

Also, Im not a bandwagoning fuckstick.

lol bandwagoning fucksticks.

[MavDynasty]

Im a cowboy fan for the same reason Im a mav fan. I was born in Dallas. Those our the teams I can go see live and the teams that are on TV for every game.

Also, Im not a bandwagoning fuckstick.

lol bandwagoning fucksticks.

quoted for the muthafuckin truth.

Rangers/Mavs/Stars/Cowsboys

lol bandwagoning fucksticks

[MavDynasty]

lol 092120

[IronMexican]

>Stars
>hockey
>hahaohwow.tif

[MavDynasty]

tbh

lol hockey

but if i had to root for a hockey team it would be them (lol hockey)

[Roddy Beaubois]

tbh my non-Korean dad is from Los Angeles and he tried to indoctrinate me with evil Lakers propaganda, but I knew from an early age that he was leading me to something horrible, which is why I'm a Mavs fan.

My dad was born and went to college in Indy (1 recent SB bitch) but was raised in LA (16 rings bitch).

[monosylab1k]

tbh I was born in Korea so unless I want to be a diehard Seoul Fighting Tiger-Cats fan I gotta pick something elsewhere.

[MavDynasty]

My dad was born and went to college in Indy (1 recent SB bitch) but was raised in LA (16 rings bitch).

:cry great fuckin geographic positioning :cry

[Roddy Beaubois]

My dad was born and went to college in Indy (1 recent SB bitch) but was raised in LA (16 rings bitch).

:wow combine that with the Cowboys (5 rings, ya cunt) and the Mavs (1 ring fuckface) and Im rolling in dem rings.

:wow No one man should have all that power.

[Steve Kerr]

:wow No one man should have all that power.
The clocks ticking I just count the hour

[Steve Kerr]

tbh I was born in Korea
:lmao sure

[dirk4mvp]

tbh i won't argue det one

ROFL funny you won't argue that even tho anytime anyone says anything other than calling Thomas Brady the greatest guy to ever have an asschin, you flip out.

[dirk4mvp]

Oh yeah, I forgot that you are the one who is the Pats fan and dirk4mvp is the Colts fan.

So that's why he is so butthurt about Saints fans.

I didn't even come here to talk shit to him, so I guess he is the Ghazi of the NFL board with his butthurt.

Not really scrah, I was just pretty bored earlier and you're always an easy target to fuck with.

[samikeyp]

dont take it personal we just have a rookie hazing policy in the nfl forum and if you refuse to carry our pads we shove them up your ass instead of deferring to the rookie like roy williams

This...oh and don't forget my donuts rook.

[PublicOption]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_185X6IYwvyM/TDMhJSClFMI/AAAAAAAAAIM/EU4gB6pkKyA/s1600/young_vince_td.jpg

[J.T.]

Hah, no. I picked them. Once IronMexican has a kid, he's definitely going to be a Raider fan, though. I say he cause I'll never have a Daughter.

tbh your son will probably end up being a little faggot band geek and not even like football

[benefactor]

dont take it personal we just have a rookie hazing policy in the nfl forum and if you refuse to carry our pads we shove them up your ass instead of deferring to the rookie like roy williams
Required rookie reading(preventative maintenance):

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132288