Blair >>>>> Scola

[ivanfromwestwood]

People bitch and moan about the Scola trade. Why when we have DB? he brings as much heart, rebounding, scoring and even some nice passing. I'd take Blair everyday of the week. We saw Blair dominate 3 games last year with 20-20 games. How many times has Scola done that? This year the Spurs need to give Blair the ball and gtfo his way.Thoughts?

[DesignatedT]

make it stoppppppppppppp

[nkdlunch]

Scola is the best PF in olympic history.

If he owns team USA next game this site will disintegrate.

[baseline bum]

People bitch and moan about the Scola trade. Why when we have DB? he brings as much heart, rebounding, scoring and even some nice passing. I'd take Blair everyday of the week. We saw Blair dominate 3 games last year with 20-20 games. How many times has Scola done that? This year the Spurs need to give Blair the ball and gtfo his way.Thoughts?

We didn't have Blair in 2008 when this team had a puncher's chance at a title even with Manu at 20%. I could care less about having Scola now when the Spurs window is firmly shut.

[cantthinkofanything]

People bitch and moan about the Scola trade. Why when we have DB? he brings as much heart, rebounding, scoring and even some nice passing. I'd take Blair everyday of the week. We saw Blair dominate 3 games last year with 20-20 games. How many times has Scola done that? This year the Spurs need to give Blair the ball and gtfo his way.Thoughts?

No way. Right now Scola > Blair. I like Blair but I'd trade him for Scola in a heartbeat. And I'd throw in Bonner.

[DesignatedT]

No way. Right now Scola > Blair. I like Blair but I'd trade him for Scola in a heartbeat. And I'd throw in Bonner.

I wouldn't trade a 21 year old Blair for a 30 year old Scola. Scola has maybe 2 years at this level at the most while Blair has so much room for improvement still.

[Double-Up]

Scola is the best PF in olympic history.

If he owns team USA next game this site will disintegrate.

:lol

[Double-Up]

I wouldn't trade a 21 year old Blair for a 30 year old Scola. Scola has maybe 2 years at this level at the most while Blair has so much room for improvement still.

The guy takes advantage of his skillset not athleticism. He should be fine for the next 2-4 years IMHO.

[cantthinkofanything]

I wouldn't trade a 21 year old Blair for a 30 year old Scola. Scola has maybe 2 years at this level at the most while Blair has so much room for improvement still.

I agree you're giving up something in the future but Scola significanlty increases the chances for TD to win another title before he retires. You could make the case that Scola would make us favorites in the West.

[ivanfromwestwood]

No way. Right now Scola > Blair. I like Blair but I'd trade him for Scola in a heartbeat. And I'd throw in Bonner.
i would trade bonner for 6 pack of miller high life. as far as tading scola for blair. not a chance. blair is 10x the beast scola is.


SCOLA THREAD!

[Gagnrath]

Scola and Blair are different types of bigmen who both hustle and work hard. as Blair develops his defence timing and passing I like Blair alot in the future, though honestly I want to see him improve on those things from last year to this before I predict his ceiling some guys just never develop in their time in the NBA. Scola is better today but Blair is more explosive and potentially able to do everything Scola does.

The timing for Scola in Duncans would have been better for the Spurs than either Splitter, or Blair and there lies the problem. The buy-out issues, and Scola's negotiation advisors at the time saw Duncan as a powerforward though and decided that there wasn't room behind Duncan on the PF roster for Scola.

[noob cake]

Scola and Blair are different types of bigmen who both hustle and work hard. as Blair develops his defence timing and passing I like Blair alot in the future, though honestly I want to see him improve on those things from last year to this before I predict his ceiling some guys just never develop in their time in the NBA. Scola is better today but Blair is more explosive and potentially able to do everything Scola does.

The timing for Scola in Duncans would have been better for the Spurs than either Splitter, or Blair and there lies the problem. The buy-out issues, and Scola's negotiation advisors at the time saw Duncan as a powerforward though and decided that there wasn't room behind Duncan on the PF roster for Scola.

Blair is Ben Wallace on crack with McHale's post moves. No lies

[sefant77]

I wouldn't trade a 21 year old Blair for a 30 year old Scola. Scola has maybe 2 years at this level at the most while Blair has so much room for improvement still.

And maybe Blair has just 2 years left with his knees....

[silverblk mystix]

Pop disagrees with you and will play Blair about HALF as many minutes as BONNER this coming season.

[Ignignokt]

People bitch and moan about the Scola trade. Why when we have DB? he brings as much heart, rebounding, scoring and even some nice passing. I'd take Blair everyday of the week. We saw Blair dominate 3 games last year with 20-20 games. How many times has Scola done that? This year the Spurs need to give Blair the ball and gtfo his way.Thoughts?

lolwut? gay!

[Phillip]

lol blair

lol scola

lol spurs

[eisfeld]

Scola would have been a great fit with the Spurs. He's gone and I'm happy to see him play in the NBA. Get over it.

[Gagnrath]

Wow what Eisfeld said was great for a change good job dude. Anyways Scola's agent wasn't going to have him on the spurs because he thought he wouldn't get playing time behind Duncan. It was dumb but very true.

[SCdac]

Scola can go a week's worth of games with out blocking a single shot, and has a career average of 0.2 BPG in 30 minutes of game play. We already have a PF like that and his name is Bonner. Luis is one of the best offensive bigs in the game, and he can take a charge, but his defense (or length and agility) leaves something to be desired, IMHO. Hopefully Splitter can clog the paint more than that, it's what we need. And Blair, while shorter, is athletic and strong enough to be an OK shot blocker (he's blocked more in his first season, than Scola's first two seasons combined).

[phxspurfan]

In other news Bonzi Wells will be elected into the Chinese basketball hall of fame

[ezau]

Blair is Ben Wallace on crack with McHale's post moves. No lies

Nice haha

[Indazone]

:lol

@ Ivan starting this troll thread. Standing back and watching his handiwork and chuckling.

[Indazone]

Cannot wait to watch Yao/Miller in the post. Scola/Hill/Hayes @ Power Forward. Budinger/Battier at Small Foward and a bevy of quick sharp shooting guards at our disposal.

Scola/Yao/Battier should be the starters in our front court backed up by Hill/Miller/Budinger..that should be pretty good front line right there.

Now if we can somehow get Melo. Hard to see how we put him. He actually is kind of hard to fine minutes for if we keep Scola or Scola would end up losing major minutes.

[DesignatedT]

Cannot wait to watch Yao/Miller in the post. Scola/Hill/Hayes @ Power Forward. Budinger/Battier at Small Foward and a bevy of quick sharp shooting guards at our disposal.

Scola/Yao/Battier should be the starters in our front court backed up by Hill/Miller/Budinger..that should be pretty good front line right there.

Now if we can somehow get Melo. Hard to see how we put him. He actually is kind of hard to fine minutes for if we keep Scola or Scola would end up losing major minutes.

Sad to see how excited rocket fans can get only to be let down once again by the big china man and his inability to stay healthy. Once he goes down, the season goes down and its bound to happen. its inevitable. Saying that, props to Morey. He's put together a nice squad who just might be able to secure an 8 seed this season. You guys are back!!!

[Kobe Molested Me]

People bitch and moan about the Scola trade. Why when we have DB? he brings as much heart, rebounding, scoring and even some nice passing. I'd take Blair everyday of the week. We saw Blair dominate 3 games last year with 20-20 games. How many times has Scola done that? This year the Spurs need to give Blair the ball and gtfo his way.Thoughts?

Has Blair ever done this?

daXvNty0N78

[bobby4germany]

Has Blair ever done this?

daXvNty0N78

LOL New Jersey

[DJ Mbenga]

does blair even have a jumpshot?

[ynh]

Scola is pretty much your best hope for what Blair becomes.. it's stupid to say you wouldn't trade Blair for him.

If it makes you feel better I honestly doubt the Rockets would take that trade anyways.

[ynh]

And yeah.. Scola had 44 against NJ.. am I wrong that when I hear people say Blair had three 20-20 games they are counting the rookie game.. Seems laughable that Scola would get shot down for putting 44 on NJ but Blair get's credit for putting 20-20 up on a no defense pick-up game.

[Chieflion]

And yeah.. Scola had 44 against NJ.. am I wrong that when I hear people say Blair had three 20-20 games they are counting the rookie game.. Seems laughable that Scola would get shot down for putting 44 on NJ but Blair get's credit for putting 20-20 up on a no defense pick-up game.

Yes, because the rookie game counts as 3 games, right? Getting 20-20s against 2 playoff teams obviously means nothing.

[ynh]

Can you not comprehend what I stated? I realize that there were two other games.. I do realize who they were against. My point was that if you are going to also count a pick-up game where he got a 20-20, thus bringing the total to three, it is humorus that after someone posted a video of Scola going for 44 against NJ the next poster attempted to trash that feat saying it was against NJ.

God damn you are fucking defensive.. seriously go get some pussy or some shit.

[Chieflion]

Can you not comprehend what I stated? I realize that there were two other games.. I do realize who they were against. My point was that if you are going to also count a pick-up game where he got a 20-20, thus bringing the total to three, it is humorus that after someone posted a video of Scola going for 44 against NJ the next poster attempted to trash that feat saying it was against NJ.

God damn you are fucking defensive.. seriously go get some pussy or some shit.
Because the rookie game wasn't competitive at all, right? Setting a record in a rookie-sophomore game also means absolutely nothing too. Pot meet kettle, I see. You are trashing the poster for downplaying a 44 point game from Scola against the New Jersey Nets while downplaying a record setting performance by Blair in a competitive game. Damn, you are such a hypocrite.

[SenorSpur]

Has Blair ever done this?

daXvNty0N78

Watching this video makes me "throw up in my own mouth".

[sefant77]

Blair had his 20-20 against Mavs, last season game with the intensity of a preseason game and then against the Thunder with Jefferson and Dice beside him and playing against a FC of Collison/Green with minor minutes from Krstic/Ibaka.

Just telling...

[ynh]

Because the rookie game wasn't competitive at all, right? Setting a record in a rookie-sophomore game also means absolutely nothing too. Pot meet kettle, I see. You are trashing the poster for downplaying a 44 point game from Scola against the New Jersey Nets while downplaying a record setting performance by Blair in a competitive game. Damn, you are such a hypocrite.

Jesus.. you still haven't comprehended what I wrote. Continue on with whatever arguement you think I was making and whatever point you think I was trying to make.. it seems to be lost on you.

[Chieflion]

ynh: I come to the Spurs forum to tell people the players on the Spurs suck.

That's all you do.

[ynh]

That's great.. Get any yet?

[ynh]

And saying that Scola is what Blair would hope to top out to be is anything but saying he sucks.. Again though.. you kind of make up your own arguments off of what you feel you are reading.. or perhaps what you wish you were reading so you can come in an express your all-knowing wisedom.. the only issue is that about three quarters of the time you're having an arguement over something that the other poster never actually stated.. Such as me not giving credit to blairs two 20-20s against playoff teams and then saying that I considered Blairs 20-20 in the rookie game diminishable...

All of these I never said.. My original point was that if someone was going to discredit Scola's 44 points because it was against NJ during a regular season game it would be laughable if that same person went around giving full credit to Blair's 20-20 in a game that was a scrimmaged game put on for fans.

But please.. I'm sure the next post from you will either be an insult because you lost your point or you will create another debate in your head thinking I said something different.

[Chieflion]

You posted a ton of bullshit at a "LOL New Jersey" post. No one made a claim to say that scoring 44 points sucks. Extremely ironic of ynh again to imagine what he is seeing on a post.

[Manufan909]

Scola can go a week's worth of games with out blocking a single shot, and has a career average of 0.2 BPG in 30 minutes of game play. We already have a PF like that and his name is Bonner. Luis is one of the best offensive bigs in the game, and he can take a charge, but his defense (or length and agility) leaves something to be desired, IMHO. Hopefully Splitter can clog the paint more than that, it's what we need. And Blair, while shorter, is athletic and strong enough to be an OK shot blocker (he's blocked more in his first season, than Scola's first two seasons combined).

Just a general question for everyone who brings up random ass stats, do you guys know what you're looking for when you look at stats, or do you just stumble onto something.:lol

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I'd trade Blair, Hill, multiple draft picks and basically anyone not named Tim, Manu or Tony for Scola, but the Rockets wouldn't bother of course.

[ynh]

You posted a ton of bullshit at a "LOL New Jersey" post. No one made a claim to say that scoring 44 points sucks. Extremely ironic of ynh again to imagine what he is seeing on a post.

I guess that post could be taken two ways.. as in laughing that it was done against NJ because they are so terrible.. or laughing directly at the fact that NJ is so terrible for that to happen.

Although in the context of the thread I'm sure the majority of the people that read it would take it the way that I had taken it. The way it is worded you are no better at taking it as the later instead of the prior.. So again.. unless you actually sent a text asking the individual what the context of that remark is you're no better or worse at doing what you consider me to be in irony of.

Although you did completely create your own arguement out of thin air regarding my comment and flipping it to me not crediting his performance or the two prior performances.

Feel free to have the last word.. this is much to tiring to continue.

[Manufan909]

does blair even have a jumpshot?

Meh, I doubt it. His jay got better as the season went on, but he rarely shot farther than 3ft away from the hoop anyways.

[mingus]

And saying that Scola is what Blair would hope to top out to be is anything but saying he sucks.. Again though.. you kind of make up your own arguments off of what you feel you are reading.. or perhaps what you wish you were reading so you can come in an express your all-knowing wisedom.. the only issue is that about three quarters of the time you're having an arguement over something that the other poster never actually stated.. Such as me not giving credit to blairs two 20-20s against playoff teams and then saying that I considered Blairs 20-20 in the rookie game diminishable...

All of these I never said.. My original point was that if someone was going to discredit Scola's 44 points because it was against NJ during a regular season game it would be laughable if that same person went around giving full credit to Blair's 20-20 in a game that was a scrimmaged game put on for fans.

But please.. I'm sure the next post from you will either be an insult because you lost your point or you will create another debate in your head thinking I said something different.

Blairs got more potential than to max out at being as good as Scola. Sadly his knees will only allow him to have a 3 or 4 year career so he won't have a "prime"

[SCdac]

Just a general question for everyone who brings up random ass stats, do you guys know what you're looking for when you look at stats, or do you just stumble onto something.:lol

Um, I've watched DeJuan Blair for 82+ games, and I've watched Luis Scola a shit load too. Does that count for anything? :rolleyes ... Luis Scola is not a shot blocker, plain and simple. Statistics only reinforce it, I see no shame in pointing it out. Much of his game is below the rim, alot like Blair's, but probably more so. Scola's post moves are probably top-5 in the league, don't get me wrong, and he hustles like no other (those Argentines a cut from a different cloth). Blair helps us (slightly) more in the aspect of shot blocking though, his hands are huge, he's got a crazy long wingspan, and his athleticism and vertical is probably underrated amongst casual NBA fans because he's so short. Given more minutes (around 30 mpg), Blair could probably block close to a shot per contest, which as Duncan ages shouldn't be taken for granted, because it ain't coming from Bonner and McDyess ain't getting any younger. Hopefully, Splitter helps us in that aspect too, being 6'11, young, and fairly agile. Spurs were closer to the bottom half of the league in blocks per game past two seasons, and we need players that can help us in that area. And a player the staff won't give up on, like Ratliff or Mahinmi.

[Leonard Curse]

Um, I've watched DeJuan Blair for 82+ games, and I've watched Luis Scola a shit load too. Does that count for anything? :rolleyes ... Luis Scola is not a shot blocker, plain and simple. Statistics only reinforce it, I see no shame in pointing it out. Much of his game is below the rim, alot like Blair's, but probably more so. Scola's post moves are probably top-5 in the league, don't get me wrong, and he hustles like no other (those Argentines a cut from a different cloth). Blair helps us (slightly) more in the aspect of shot blocking though, his hands are huge, he's got a crazy long wingspan, and his athleticism and vertical is probably underrated amongst casual NBA fans because he's so short. Given more minutes (around 30 mpg), Blair could probably block close to a shot per contest, which as Duncan ages shouldn't be taken for granted, because it ain't coming from Bonner and McDyess ain't getting any younger. Hopefully, Splitter helps us in that aspect too, being 6'11, young, and fairly agile. Spurs were closer to the bottom half of the league in blocks per game past two seasons, and we need players that can help us in that area. And a player the staff won't give up on, like Ratliff or Mahinmi.

well said and i agree with D.BLAIR's minutes and production i think this is somewhat of a critical contract year for pop if he pulls the same insane lineups and inconsistency it will confirm a smallball no defense pattern and he should then be fired end of story yes i know he was amazing but if he doesnt go back to vintage pop what are we doing with don nelson, wh is the total opposite of what we did when we were winning rings i see a lack of coaching out there!!! i hope im proved wayyyy wrong believe me i love pop "well the vintage hungry pop" not this guy who plays a 7fter with midgit arms to defend our rim!!! no more missed opportunities pop go get it !!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[The Franchise]

Saying Blair>>Scola is like saying Kevin Martin>>>Kobe Bryant. Just plain silly.

[cantthinkofanything]

Just a general question for everyone who brings up random ass stats, do you guys know what you're looking for when you look at stats, or do you just stumble onto something.:lol

I'll ususally dig through the stats to find one that supports my argument, no matter how obscure the stat or how ridiculous the agrument.

[Indazone]

Watching that video. The man does play a lot like Tim Duncan.

[MmP]

One thing that really bothers me is that Scola has one of the best footwork in the league despite not being very athletic. And he's very smart on the court. TD Scola, nice tandem. :(

[noob cake]

I 3> Scola

High skill level, basketball IQ, character, leadership, and passion!

[ivanfromwestwood]

Has Blair ever done this?

daXvNty0N78heres one all you rocket fans should like. scola has a sick shot but all those plays were ran for him and most were uncontested.av_bSec5UQY

[The Franchise]

Scola would have made the Spurs a lot better even coming off the bench. Can you just imagine he and Manu pick and rolling teams to death. Then when Duncan slided to C he could play the same outlet that he does for Yao on double teams, draining his automatic midrange jumper, and finding open spaces on the court. If it didn't take him away from Houston I would love to see him ball with the SA squad.

[ace3g]

again anyone who thinks Scola wouldn't have helped the Spurs and possibly won another title or two with him on the roster are crazy; but he isn't on the team so you have to look forward; hopefully Splitter can bring some of the skill set that Scola would have; and I think from a defensive stand point Splitter is better.

[Jobbs]

everybody >>>> Scola today

[G-Dawgg]

Blair is not better than Scola, nor do I believe he is a player that you can build a franchise on. He's damaged goods. Athough he could become a special player,I suspect that Blair will never play major minutes if he wants to prolong his career. I think his minutes will always be monitored in order to limit the wear and tear on his already damaged knees. If he does play big minutes, expect him to have a shorter career or be plagued by knee/leg injuries. I hope I'm wrong, but looking at it from a logical point of view, this scenario seems very likely.