Karl Malone or Kevin Garnett

[picc84]

At their peaks, who was better.

[Steve Kerr]

I vote KG since I don't think Malone was ever better than peak (2004) KG. Malone was a better scorer numbers wise but that has a lot to do with Stockton while KG never had a PG who could run pick and rolls that well. KG is a way better passer/rebounder/defender/face-up iso scorer in his prime, so I give him the nod.

[Ashy Larry]

tough question ..... I probably go with KG because defensively he could guard practically all five positions.

[Phillip]

Malone wasn't even the leader of his own team. While he was quite good, I think he's one of the more overrated players in NBA history. He was like Amare before Amare... great athlete with skill, but wouldn't be nearly as dominant without a HOF PG creating all kinds of opportunities for them.

[Venti Quattro]

I pick KG. Too bad. What a waste of his prime in Minnesota

[ambchang]

Karl Malone is so overrated.

[Pelicans78]

At first glance I would say Malone because he played in a better era for big men. No way KG could guard Barkley.

But with KG, Anything is posssssibleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, #$%#! #$%! #&^$, douchebag

[lebomb]

Malone was much beefier than KG. Malone would shove KG all over the court in his prime.

[Phillip]

Malone was much beefier than KG. Malone would shove KG all over the court in his prime.

KG had his own share of tricks for defending beefy guys as well, like pulling the chair. add to it, his ridiculous athletic ability and long-ass arms, he was able to handle big guys pretty decently

[Steve Kerr]

Malone was much beefier than KG. Malone would shove KG all over the court in his prime.
Malone had an even bigger size advantage on Rodman than he would have had on KG and Rodman still gave him fits. He coulda been a lot better at taking advantage of the fact he's built like a middle linebacker than he was.

[JamStone]

Karl Malone was seemingly the better scorer based on numbers but I don't think the difference is great if Malone was even better at all. Malone got a lot of spoon-fed lay-ups out of the pick-and-roll and he wasn't much of a traditional back-to-the-basket low post scorer just like KG. Later on in his career, when he didn't scorer out of the pick-and-roll or at the free throw line, it was the mid range jumper from the extended free throw line. KG has never been a very good low post scorer either, but he could score without the benefit of the pick-and-roll since he had face-up skills and the ability to score off the dribble out of a face-up position. Karl Malone put up better scoring numbers, but I don' think there's a huge difference in ability to score.

Malone was obviously stronger and tougher. But pretty much every other advantage belongs to KG. At KG's peak, he did bulk up to be closer to 250 than the 220 he was early on in his career. And at that peak, KG was one of the most well-rounded and versatile players ever.

I'd take KG at his peak over Malone at his.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Malone's elbows >>>KG

[ezau]

Malone wasn't even the leader of his own team. While he was quite good, I think he's one of the more overrated players in NBA history. He was like Amare before Amare... great athlete with skill, but wouldn't be nearly as dominant without a HOF PG creating all kinds of opportunities for them.

Quality post brah, :toast. I'd go with KG too, it makes me wonder what would have happened to Malone's career without somebody like Stockton

[callo1]

Duncan

[HarlemHeat37]

I would take KG by a slight margin, but I don't think Malone is overrated at all, I actually think he has become underrated for a while now..Stockton is really overrated IMO..

[IronMexican]

Duncan

grey spurfan.

[picc84]

Malone's defense may actually be getting underrated here. Good PnR defender, and a much better man defender than Garnett. A better passer as well, and more of a volume scorer. He didn't have a great post-up game but it was better than Garnett's. Surprised at the unanimous picking of KG here.

[Supergirl]

Malone is a better defender, but KG is more unguardable and his offense is more diverse.

[Chieflion]

Malone is a better defender, but KG is more unguardable and his offense is more diverse.
:lmao

[Girasuck]

My good god. I can't believe a couple of you actually think Malone didn't have a good post up game. He's without question the greatest non-center post up player of all-time. Just how much Jazz basketball did you guys watch? Until he perfected his midrange jumper, Malone made a living posting up.

And to say that all Malone got off the PnR was easy layups is completely false, and yet again I question if you guys actually watched any Jazz games.

Jesus Fucking Christ!! I'm blown away at the stupidity of JamStone and picc84.

[lebomb]

I'm blown away at the stupidity of JamStone and picc84.

Me as well...............Malone was awesome.

[JamStone]

My good god. I can't believe a couple of you actually think Malone didn't have a good post up game. He's without question the greatest non-center post up player of all-time. Just how much Jazz basketball did you guys watch? Until he perfected his midrange jumper, Malone made a living posting up.

And to say that all Malone got off the PnR was easy layups is completely false, and yet again I question if you guys actually watched any Jazz games.

Jesus Fucking Christ!! I'm blown away at the stupidity of JamStone and picc84.

Started watching the NBA in the mid 1980s. Saw most of the Jazz playoff games during Malone's career. Malone feasted off the pick-and roll. I didn't say Malone couldn't score in the low post but I wouldn't say he was a great low-post scorer with his back to the basket.

And how about you saying "without question the greatest non-center post up player of all time" completely disregarding guys like Tim Duncan and Kevin McHale? Yeah, let's talk about stupidity.

You probably should be even more blown away by your own stupidity.

[Killakobe81]

Karl Malone was seemingly the better scorer based on numbers but I don't think the difference is great if Malone was even better at all. Malone got a lot of spoon-fed lay-ups out of the pick-and-roll and he wasn't much of a traditional back-to-the-basket low post scorer just like KG. Later on in his career, when he didn't scorer out of the pick-and-roll or at the free throw line, it was the mid range jumper from the extended free throw line. KG has never been a very good low post scorer either, but he could score without the benefit of the pick-and-roll since he had face-up skills and the ability to score off the dribble out of a face-up position. Karl Malone put up better scoring numbers, but I don' think there's a huge difference in ability to score.

Malone was obviously stronger and tougher. But pretty much every other advantage belongs to KG. At KG's peak, he did bulk up to be closer to 250 than the 220 he was early on in his career. And at that peak, KG was one of the most well-rounded and versatile players ever.

I'd take KG at his peak over Malone at his.

I agree whole heartedly. Malone's strength was his turn-around jumper, mid-range and his ability to get out on the break for easy scores (as well as finish on the pnr). Sound familiar? So to me they are very similar players in terms of production, though not in body type. People on here sometimes forget despite the sympathy that KG garnered for playing hard on crap teams, he was considered somewhat of a choker like Karl. I always thought KG did not choke, but rather was worn out from carrying those horrible teams.But it is what it is ...But back to why I take KG ...

1. Better rebounder (despite his small frame) KG put up some sick numbers rebounding in his peak.
2. Defensively few could match his ability to show on pnr, protect the rim AND grab rebounds sometime all in the same possesion.
3. The ring. Yes, he had to pull a Lebron (kidding) to get one. But I must stay consistent here. When players are close, the ring is the tie-breaker for me. Plus his leadership TRANSFORMED that team. Although Pierce was the leader of the offense KG was the leader of the celts as a defensive force.

So it's KG in a close race.
Any Malone fans here, I am not hating. Along with Lebron, Barkley, Nique, Miller and Stockton (of course) he is one of the best to ever do it and not ring since 1980 ...

[Phillip]

My good god. I can't believe a couple of you actually think Malone didn't have a good post up game. He's without question the greatest non-center post up player of all-time. Just how much Jazz basketball did you guys watch? Until he perfected his midrange jumper, Malone made a living posting up.

And to say that all Malone got off the PnR was easy layups is completely false, and yet again I question if you guys actually watched any Jazz games.

Jesus Fucking Christ!! I'm blown away at the stupidity of JamStone and picc84.

You are a fucking moron. Like most Jizz fans.

[Killakobe81]

Started watching the NBA in the mid 1980s. Saw most of the Jazz playoff games during Malone's career. Malone feasted off the pick-and roll. I didn't say Malone couldn't score in the low post but I wouldn't say he was a great low-post scorer with his back to the basket.

And how about you saying "without question the greatest non-center post up player of all time" completely disregarding guys like Tim Duncan and Kevin McHale? Yeah, let's talk about stupidity.

You probably should be even more blown away by your own stupidity.

I would not say he did not have one, but it was not the stuff of Kevin, McHale, James worthy, or even the great smaller forwards like Adrian Dantley. Although he might of scored from the block in his peak, I never watched a game of his and was "amazed" by malone's footwork in the post. That is what I think most are talking about in the comparison.

[Killakobe81]

I would take KG by a slight margin, but I don't think Malone is overrated at all, I actually think he has become underrated for a while now..Stockton is really overrated IMO..

I used to think this. But if you focus on playoffs, stockton was far more valuable in the clutch than Malone, IMHO. Almot every big playof moment it's Stockton not malone that has his fingerprints on it. I will say this though, some members of the media do overrate the guy but ask GP what he thinks ... LOL? He said on TNT a while back (paraphrasing) "that I used to bust his ass (stockton) but John got the All-star votes and ALL NBA ones ahead of me!" ...

[Steve Kerr]

Stockton was overrated. He cared more about getting assists than winning games. The reason Stockton was always the one with the playoff moment centered around him was because he was a ball hogging assist whore who's ego prevented him from letting another player try to create his own shot late in games.

[noob cake]

Douche vs rapist

Don't ever choose the rapist

[Steve Kerr]

Both Malone and Stockton are overrated. They won the Western conference in 1997 and 1998 when every other team was going through a transitional phase. Shaq and Kobe hadn't meshed yet, Houston was still trying to build around a washed up Hakeem, Duncan was still in college in 97 and was a rookie in 98, and all the other teams just weren't good. The way the Stockton Malone Jazz are talked about like they woulda been a dynasty if not for Michael Jordan is revisionist history bullshit.

[JamStone]

One telling thing about Stockton came from something Jerry Sloan said when talking about Deron Williams. Sloan said Deron calls the sets and plays on offense, and then he said Stockton never did that, never. So in his entire NBA career, John Stockton never called plays. It was always Sloan. Every half court set. We're talking probably 75,000 half court sets in his career. So aside from transition, Stockton was basically Jerry Sloan's robot out on the court. To me, that's extremely telling.

[lebomb]

Both Malone and Stockton are overrated. They won the Western conference in 1997 and 1998 when every other team was going through a transitional phase. Shaq and Kobe hadn't meshed yet, Houston was still trying to build around a washed up Hakeem, Duncan was still in college in 97 and was a rookie in 98, and all the other teams just weren't good. The way the Stockton Malone Jazz are talked about like they woulda been a dynasty if not for Michael Jordan is revisionist history bullshit.


They would have won back to back if it werent for Jordan. You can hate all you want on Utah, but they were better than EVERY team at that time except for the Bulls team.

[ambchang]

My good god. I can't believe a couple of you actually think Malone didn't have a good post up game. He's without question the greatest non-center post up player of all-time. Just how much Jazz basketball did you guys watch? Until he perfected his midrange jumper, Malone made a living posting up.

And to say that all Malone got off the PnR was easy layups is completely false, and yet again I question if you guys actually watched any Jazz games.

Jesus Fucking Christ!! I'm blown away at the stupidity of JamStone and picc84.

Duncan.
McHale.
Barkley.

You could even argue Jordan at the end of his career was a better post up player.

Malone's game was mostly around PnR with Stockton, and rolling to the basket. He did have a good turnaround step back jumper, fills the lane fantastically in the fast break, has a great mid-range game, phenomenal passer in the blocks (especially later on in his career and considering his position).

His postup game, however, wasn't great. He was much much better facing the basket. He never made a living in the low blocks like you claimed. I would even go as far as to say a journeyman like Rony Seikaly, or even Dino Radja, had a better post up game (people don't remember these things because the other aspects of their game was basically non-existant).

[Steve Kerr]

They would have won back to back if it werent for Jordan. You can hate all you want on Utah, but they were better than EVERY team at that time except for the Bulls team.
Yeah and it was a weak ass time period. They would get steam rolled by the current day Celtics, Heat, Lakers and maybe Magic.

[lebomb]

Yeah and it was a weak ass time period. They would get steam rolled by the current day Celtics, Heat, Lakers and maybe Magic.


Maybe, there is no way to know for sure. The thing about Utah that was very good? They played well together........more of a team than you see now adays for sure.

[lebomb]

I will give you this...............back then you needed two superstars to compete. Now adays you need 3................with all the so called superstars ganging up because they could not win with only one sidekick.

[Steve Kerr]

Maybe, there is no way to know for sure. The thing about Utah that was very good? They played well together........more of a team than you see now adays for sure.
Yes there is.

:lol Bryan Russell and Hornacek trying to guard Lebron and Wade, or Allen and Pierce for that matter.

[lebomb]

Yes there is.

:lol Bryan Russell and Hornacek trying to guard Lebron and Wade, or Allen and Pierce for that matter.

2 superstars vs roll players. You got me on that one. But superstars does not mean you will win it all. It depends on how the entire team comes together. Utah played very well together.

[picc84]

My good god. I can't believe a couple of you actually think Malone didn't have a good post up game. He's without question the greatest non-center post up player of all-time. Just how much Jazz basketball did you guys watch? Until he perfected his midrange jumper, Malone made a living posting up.

And to say that all Malone got off the PnR was easy layups is completely false, and yet again I question if you guys actually watched any Jazz games.

Jesus Fucking Christ!! I'm blown away at the stupidity of JamStone and picc84.

Hold on just a minute here. :lol I'm the guy sticking up for Malone here and saying he's getting underrated. His post-game wasn't great like a Duncan or Hakeem, but it shit on Garnett's.

[Jt.ONE]

I used to think this. But if you focus on playoffs, stockton was far more valuable in the clutch than Malone, IMHO. Almot every big playof moment it's Stockton not malone that has his fingerprints on it. I will say this though, some members of the media do overrate the guy but ask GP what he thinks ... LOL? He said on TNT a while back (paraphrasing) "that I used to bust his ass (stockton) but John got the All-star votes and ALL NBA ones ahead of me!" ...

the glove > stockton

[lebomb]

the glove > stockton


LOL..............maybe Stockton got all the pub because he was a pass first true point guard. He averaged way more assists than the glove. He could also out shoot the glove any day of the week. I remember watching Stockton and just about every time he went up for a shot, it went in. I used to hate that lil bastard, but he was a great player. I would take him over the glove any day.

[Steve Kerr]

Congratulations to Stockton for being a pass first PG with tons of assists. That might actually be worth something they day a pass first high assist PG wins a title in the modern NBA.

[Killakobe81]

Congratulations to Stockton for being a pass first PG with tons of assists. That might actually be worth something they day a pass first high assist PG wins a title in the modern NBA.

goran, is that you? LOL