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j-money24
09-13-2010, 09:48 PM
Atlanta: 41 points (Nov. 01, 2009)
Boston: 43 points (Mar. 20, 2006; Jan. 31, 2007) | Playoffs: 38 points (June 13, 2010)
Charlotte: 58 points (Dec. 29, 2006)
Chicago: 43 points (Nov. 20, 2005)
Cleveland: 47 points (Jan. 30, 2001)
Dallas: 62 points (Dec. 20, 2005)
Denver: 51 points (Feb. 12, 2003) | Playoffs: 49 points (Apr. 23, 2008)
Detriot: 40 points (Mar. 04, 2006; Nov. 17, 2009) | Playoffs: 33 points (June 08, 2004)
Golden State: 51 points (Dec. 06, 2000)
Houston: 53 points (Dec. 15, 2006; Mar. 30, 2007) | Playoffs: 40 points (May 06, 2009)
Indiana: 45 points (Jan. 09, 2006) | Playoffs: 28 points (June 14, 2000)
Miami: 42 points (Dec. 25, 2004)
Milwaukee: 43 points (Mar. 24, 2006)
Minnesota: 50 points (Mar. 18, 2007) | Playoffs: 39 points (Apr. 20, 2003)
Memphis: 60 points (Mar. 22, 2007)
LA Clippers: 50 points (Jan. 07, 2006; Apr. 12, 2007)
New Orleans: 50 points (Mar. 23, 2007)
New Jersey: 46 points (Nov. 27, 2005) | Playoffs: 36 points (June 09, 2002)
New York: 61 points (Feb. 02, 2009)
Orlando: 41 points (Nov. 12, 2004; Dec. 20, 2008) | Playoffs: 40 points (June 04, 2009)
Philadelphia: 48 points (Jan. 06, 2006) | Playoffs: 32 points (June 10, 2001)
Phoenix: 51 points (Apr. 07, 2006) | Playoffs: 50 points (May 04, 2006)
Portland: 65 points (Mar. 16, 2007) | Playoffs: 34 points (Apr. 21, 2002)
Utah: 52 points (Nov. 30, 2006) | Playoffs: 38 points (May 04, 2008; Apr. 25, 2009)
Sacramento: 51 points (Jan. 19, 2006) | Playoffs: 48 points (May 23, 2001)
San Antonio: 44 points (Feb. 14, 2003) | Playoffs: 45 points (May 19, 2001)
Seattle: 50 points (Apr. 15, 2007) | Playoffs: 39 points (Apr. 20, 2010)
Toronto: 81 points (Jan. 22, 2006)
Washington: 55 points (Mar. 28, 2003)

He owned every team in the NBA.. has scored atleast 40 points on every team lol.

MavDynasty
09-13-2010, 10:05 PM
:cry great fuckin 16th pick

namlook
09-13-2010, 10:07 PM
40+ against every team? That's sick.

j-money24
09-13-2010, 10:08 PM
:cry great fuckin 16th pick

and 62-61 Kobe vs Mavs after 3 Qs:toast

midnightpulp
09-13-2010, 10:11 PM
Shitty thread. Not surprised, though considering who started it.

Koolaid_Man
09-13-2010, 10:17 PM
Atlanta: 41 points (Nov. 01, 2009)
Boston: 43 points (Mar. 20, 2006; Jan. 31, 2007) | Playoffs: 38 points (June 13, 2010)
Charlotte: 58 points (Dec. 29, 2006)
Chicago: 43 points (Nov. 20, 2005)
Cleveland: 47 points (Jan. 30, 2001)
Dallas: 62 points (Dec. 20, 2005)
Denver: 51 points (Feb. 12, 2003) | Playoffs: 49 points (Apr. 23, 2008)
Detriot: 40 points (Mar. 04, 2006; Nov. 17, 2009) | Playoffs: 33 points (June 08, 2004)
Golden State: 51 points (Dec. 06, 2000)
Houston: 53 points (Dec. 15, 2006; Mar. 30, 2007) | Playoffs: 40 points (May 06, 2009)
Indiana: 45 points (Jan. 09, 2006) | Playoffs: 28 points (June 14, 2000)
Miami: 42 points (Dec. 25, 2004)
Milwaukee: 43 points (Mar. 24, 2006)
Minnesota: 50 points (Mar. 18, 2007) | Playoffs: 39 points (Apr. 20, 2003)
Memphis: 60 points (Mar. 22, 2007)
LA Clippers: 50 points (Jan. 07, 2006; Apr. 12, 2007)
New Orleans: 50 points (Mar. 23, 2007)
New Jersey: 46 points (Nov. 27, 2005) | Playoffs: 36 points (June 09, 2002)
New York: 61 points (Feb. 02, 2009)
Orlando: 41 points (Nov. 12, 2004; Dec. 20, 2008) | Playoffs: 40 points (June 04, 2009)
Philadelphia: 48 points (Jan. 06, 2006) | Playoffs: 32 points (June 10, 2001)
Phoenix: 51 points (Apr. 07, 2006) | Playoffs: 50 points (May 04, 2006)
Portland: 65 points (Mar. 16, 2007) | Playoffs: 34 points (Apr. 21, 2002)
Utah: 52 points (Nov. 30, 2006) | Playoffs: 38 points (May 04, 2008; Apr. 25, 2009)
Sacramento: 51 points (Jan. 19, 2006) | Playoffs: 48 points (May 23, 2001)
San Antonio: 44 points (Feb. 14, 2003) | Playoffs: 45 points (May 19, 2001)
Seattle: 50 points (Apr. 15, 2007) | Playoffs: 39 points (Apr. 20, 2010)
Toronto: 81 points (Jan. 22, 2006)
Washington: 55 points (Mar. 28, 2003)

He owned every team in the NBA.. has scored atleast 40 points on every team lol.


yes sir...on the fucking money...and hey I wanna see the fucking porno tape...:toast

so graphic so porn:

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LeHeat_Dynasty
09-13-2010, 10:21 PM
Kobe only scored 50 points once in the playoffs though...For a guy on track with the most playoff games played, that's pretty disturbing.

Koolaid_Man
09-13-2010, 10:28 PM
Kobe only scored 50 points once in the playoffs though...For a guy on track with the most playoff games played, that's pretty disturbing.


7 finals appearances in 14 seasons...5 titles pretty sick IMO...

LeHeat_Dynasty
09-13-2010, 10:43 PM
FWIW, did'nt Kobe drop 50+ on the nuggets too? I remember that game when JR Smith opened his mouth, Kobe answered with 53 if i'm not mistaken.

j-money24
09-13-2010, 10:48 PM
The 55 on MJ and the Wizards, PJ yanked him in the 3rd just to save MJ from going through further embarrassment. That's the game in my sig which was in the second quarter.:lol


:lolLMAO.. i remember that game, Kobe spanked them so bad, he could have easily scored 60 if he wanted to... he had nine 3 pointers in that game also

j-money24
09-13-2010, 10:51 PM
FWIW, did'nt Kobe drop 50+ on the nuggets too? I remember that game when JR Smith opened his mouth, Kobe answered with 53 if i'm not mistaken.

I think that was the game in the Playoffs where Kobe scored 49 points and also had 10 assists in that game when JR Smith opened his mouth.

namlook
09-13-2010, 10:53 PM
Kobe only scored 50 points once in the playoffs though...For a guy on track with the most playoff games played, that's pretty disturbing.

How is that disturbing? The playoffs are about winning and Kobe is a proven winner. The tempo of the modern game also slows down in the playoffs and it's a lot more half court basketball, moving the ball and milking the clock to find the best shots.

Double-Up
09-13-2010, 10:58 PM
The 55 on MJ and the Wizards, PJ yanked him in the 3rd just to save MJ from going through further embarrassment. That's the game in my sig which was in the second quarter.:lol

Another Lakaluva classic here...come on you ignorant fuck, Jordan was 40 years old. :pimpslap

http://i3.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens2018466module9873822photo_1212807413offe nse-jordan-versus-kobe.jpg

http://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens2018466module9874349photo_1212810108defe nse-jordan-kobe-stats.jpg

Venti Quattro
09-13-2010, 11:34 PM
FWIW, did'nt Kobe drop 50+ on the nuggets too? I remember that game when JR Smith opened his mouth, Kobe answered with 53 if i'm not mistaken.

But he drops 30 and 40 like layups so it's all good

Medvedenko
09-13-2010, 11:36 PM
I approve of this message.

Nahtanoj
09-14-2010, 12:01 AM
http://i3.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens2018466module9873822photo_1212807413offe nse-jordan-versus-kobe.jpg

http://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens2018466module9874349photo_1212810108defe nse-jordan-kobe-stats.jpg

Do this for Michael Jordan vs. Oscar Robertson, Wilt Chamberlain. Hell, you can even do one for LeBron James too.

Your point is that Jordan put up better numbers and averages in his era? Well done then.

midnightpulp
09-14-2010, 12:06 AM
Do this for Michael Jordan vs. Oscar Robertson, Wilt Chamberlain. Hell, you can even do one for LeBron James too.

Your point is that Jordan put up better numbers and averages in his era? Well done then.

No, if you weren't a fucktarded Lakerfan, you'd realize his point is that Michael Jordan is a better player than Kobe Bryant.

TinTin
09-14-2010, 12:10 AM
The 55 on MJ and the Wizards, PJ yanked him in the 3rd just to save MJ from going through further embarrassment. That's the game in my sig which was in the second quarter.:lol


Another Lakaluva classic here...come on you ignorant fuck, Jordan was 40 years old. :pimpslap

http://i3.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens2018466module9873822photo_1212807413offe nse-jordan-versus-kobe.jpg

http://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens2018466module9874349photo_1212810108defe nse-jordan-kobe-stats.jpg


Do this for Michael Jordan vs. Oscar Robertson, Wilt Chamberlain. Hell, you can even do one for LeBron James too.

Your point is that Jordan put up better numbers and averages in his era? Well done then.

So Kobe > Jordan?

Medvedenko
09-14-2010, 12:18 AM
So Kobe > Jordan?


Duh?

midnightpulp
09-14-2010, 12:19 AM
Duh?

Highlights>Natural Hair Color?

O.J Mayo
09-14-2010, 12:20 AM
Thread title should be Kobe fans are stupid.

Medvedenko
09-14-2010, 12:49 AM
I don't give a fuck how old he was, jackass. MJ made the mistake of trying to show Kobe up in the house that Kobe built, and Kobe busted his ass for it. The Pistons didn't give a shit about Kareem being 40 when they busted his old ass, so why should we care about MJ being so stupid to come out of retirement to try and prove something in Kobe's era.

I was at that game, and I remember MJ during warm-ups walking around like he was going to give LA one last glimpse of how great he was. He started off on fire hitting 5-6 shots. The tongue was wagging, the swagger was going, and all of a sudden, Kobe snapped. MJ refused to pass the torch, so Kobe snatched it from his ass that night. That was Kobe simply telling MJ... THIS IS MY LEAGUE NOW.

Preach on bromie, preach on!

midnightpulp
09-14-2010, 01:10 AM
THIS IS MY LEAGUE NOW.

But it was still Duncan and Shaq's league then.

It didn't become Kobe's league until Duncan and Shaq found themselves on the wrong side of their respective primes.

I'll give Kobe credit for dominating the post-Duncan/Shaq era. Beating teams like the recent Jazz, Suns, Nuggets, and Yao-less Rockets is no easy feat. Not to mention defeating those Finals juggernauts in a Dwight "I have no post-game" Howard led Orlando Magic and a 50 win Boston team filled with has-beens who lost their starting center for game 7.

midnightpulp
09-14-2010, 01:38 AM
This must really burn your ass to see Kobe come into the league before Duncan, three-peat during Duncan's prime, and continue to be the best player in the league going back2back well after Duncan has been washed up and finished.

But Shaq was the main man during the three peat. Truth is, a Kobe led team has never ringed during Duncan's prime. On the other hand, Duncan led teams scored three O'Briens (I'll concede that Kobe wasn't in his prime in 99. Oh, but you just said he was the best player in the league in 99, so let's make that four O'Briens) during Kobe's prime.

Now that has to burn your ass.

midnightpulp
09-14-2010, 01:52 AM
No one recognizes a strike year. And according to you, Manu led that team since 05. I'll concede that Duncan got lucky a few times. He never defended his title so no one will remember his efforts. Much like Bird is overshadowed by Magic, the same goes for Kobe over Duncan. In fact, since Duncan is retired, let's not talk about him... he's history.

Didn't say that. Quit twisting my words. I said Manu's been the closer since '05. And he would get the ball late because he's a great FT shooter. It'd be foolish not to put the ball in his hands when the other team is in intentional foul mode.

Yeah, he got lucky bookending the 3 peat, beating your supposed "Kobe-led" Lakers twice enroute. Then he finished the job on those Pistons that whooped the "official" Kobe-led Lakers the year previous. Didn't Kobe shoot something like 35% in that series?

ezau
09-14-2010, 02:18 AM
The 55 on MJ and the Wizards, PJ yanked him in the 3rd just to save MJ from going through further embarrassment. That's the game in my sig which was in the second quarter.:lol

he's better than MJ :cry

ezau
09-14-2010, 02:19 AM
Another Lakaluva classic here...come on you ignorant fuck, Jordan was 40 years old. :pimpslap

http://i3.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens2018466module9873822photo_1212807413offe nse-jordan-versus-kobe.jpg

http://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens2018466module9874349photo_1212810108defe nse-jordan-kobe-stats.jpg

Kobe's surely better than MJ, tee hee

ezau
09-14-2010, 02:20 AM
Do this for Michael Jordan vs. Oscar Robertson, Wilt Chamberlain. Hell, you can even do one for LeBron James too.

Your point is that Jordan put up better numbers and averages in his era? Well done then.

So kobe>Jordan? Yes or No?

badfish22
09-14-2010, 02:22 AM
Highlights>Natural Hair Color?

:lmao:lmao:lmao

namlook
09-14-2010, 03:11 AM
Kobe vs Jordan. People just bring this up to divert attention from whatever the subject is that they don't like because Kobe vs Jordan is the only card left in their deck. It's funny how haters invariably have to chime in on every Kobe thread with trying to negatively compare Kobe to Jordan. Do they really think this is an insult?

ezau
09-14-2010, 03:58 AM
Kobe vs Jordan. People just bring this up to divert attention from whatever the subject is that they don't like because Kobe vs Jordan is the only card left in their deck. It's funny how haters invariably have to chime in on every Kobe thread with trying to negatively compare Kobe to Jordan. Do they really think this is an insult?

If you're pissed off, then just put these people in your ignore list, tee, hee

iManu
09-14-2010, 04:10 AM
Depends on the ref, but I'm pretty sure Kobe would get raped.

Sportstudi
09-14-2010, 04:16 AM
Another Lakaluva classic here...come on you ignorant fuck, Jordan was 40 years old. :pimpslap

http://i3.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens2018466module9873822photo_1212807413offe nse-jordan-versus-kobe.jpg

http://i2.squidoocdn.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens2018466module9874349photo_1212810108defe nse-jordan-kobe-stats.jpg

This. MJ was 40 years old and walking on one leg and a young Kobe could finally shine. Seriously, why the f*ck do you need such an idiotic stat, Laka? If Kobe had done this during Jordan's prime, fine. But he didn't. Don't get me wrong: Kobe has been an excellent scorer and tremendous player during the last decade. I don't hink he will drop off soon. But Laka, to get a dick over such a "feat" of scoring 55 against an old MJ who has come out of retirement twice is just ridiculous.

redzero
09-14-2010, 04:53 AM
So what I take from this topic is that Kobe Bryant is good at scoring.

Who would have thunk it?

LkrFan
09-14-2010, 06:09 AM
I don't give a fuck how old he was, jackass. MJ made the mistake of trying to show Kobe up in the house that Kobe built, and Kobe busted his ass for it. The Pistons didn't give a shit about Kareem being 40 when they busted his old ass, so why should we care about MJ being so stupid to come out of retirement to try and prove something in Kobe's era.

I was at that game, and I remember MJ during warm-ups walking around like he was going to give LA one last glimpse of how great he was. He started off on fire hitting 5-6 shots. The tongue was wagging, the swagger was going, and all of a sudden, Kobe snapped. MJ refused to pass the torch, so Kobe snatched it from his ass that night. That was Kobe simply telling MJ... THIS IS MY LEAGUE NOW.
Don't hurt 'em luva! :lol

LkrFan
09-14-2010, 06:24 AM
Didn't say that. Quit twisting my words. I said Manu's been the closer since '05. And he would get the ball late because he's a great FT shooter. It'd be foolish not to put the ball in his hands when the other team is in intentional foul mode.

Who was going to get the ball for LA - even during Shaq's prime - at the end of quarters and playoff games? It surely wasn't Shaq. Kobe has been the Lakers' closer since at least 1999 - or if you want to count his airballs against Utah when he was a rookie - have at it.

Bottom line up front: Kobe was ready to take over as the man for LA as early as 2000. Knowing Shaq would have been butthurt, PJ refused. It wasn't until Shaq decided to rest on his fatass laurels and gain 100lbs that PJ finally relented and gave Kobe the keys to the offense. That was with a prime Shaq, Malone, and Payton on the squad.

I still remember Kobe going through the trial of his life during the day, take a jet to a playoff game that night, then dropped 30+ on some unassuming defender (talk about mental toughness).

Giuseppe
09-14-2010, 09:19 AM
and a 50 win Boston team filled with has-beens who lost their starting center for game 7.

& the vast lion's share of game 6.

tee, hee.

DeadlyDynasty
09-14-2010, 11:20 AM
But Shaq was the main man during the three peat. Truth is, a Kobe led team has never ringed during Duncan's prime. On the other hand, Duncan led teams scored three O'Briens (I'll concede that Kobe wasn't in his prime in 99. Oh, but you just said he was the best player in the league in 99, so let's make that four O'Briens) during Kobe's prime.

Now that has to burn your ass.

and who was the main man in the playoffs against your beloved Spurs those years? Shall we post the evidence?

TheManFromAcme
09-14-2010, 11:37 AM
But it was still Duncan and Shaq's league then.

It didn't become Kobe's league until Duncan and Shaq found themselves on the wrong side of their respective primes.

I'll give Kobe credit for dominating the post-Duncan/Shaq era. Beating teams like the recent Jazz, Suns, Nuggets, and Yao-less Rockets is no easy feat. Not to mention defeating those Finals juggernauts in a Dwight "I have no post-game" Howard led Orlando Magic and a 50 win Boston team filled with has-beens who lost their starting center for game 7.


Sarcasm is an art form pulp. You failed miserably.

ambchang
09-14-2010, 11:58 AM
No one recognizes a strike year. And according to you, Manu led that team since 05. I'll concede that Duncan got lucky a few times. He never defended his title so no one will remember his efforts. Much like Bird is overshadowed by Magic, the same goes for Kobe over Duncan. In fact, since Duncan is retired, let's not talk about him... he's history.

So why do you recognize a game during a strike year?

Ashy Larry
09-14-2010, 12:21 PM
But Shaq was the main man during the three peat. Truth is, a Kobe led team has never ringed during Duncan's prime. On the other hand, Duncan led teams scored three O'Briens (I'll concede that Kobe wasn't in his prime in 99. Oh, but you just said he was the best player in the league in 99, so let's make that four O'Briens) during Kobe's prime.

Now that has to burn your ass.

I agree with you with Shaquille being the main man in those three peat teams, but if you were to give an MVP award to one player in the real 2001 NBA finals between the Spurs and the Lakers, who would it be? Obviously Bean Bryant. Was totally the best player on the floor and dominated with Shaquille on the floor and when he was on the bench.

j-money24
09-14-2010, 03:05 PM
and who was the main man in the playoffs against your beloved Spurs those years? Shall we post the evidence?

If you check on my list again, you'll see Kobe career high against Spurs in the Playoffs ( May 19th, 2001 he scored 45 points in the WCF, 5 days before that on the 13th, he had 48 points to close the Kings in the semifinals... That year, IMO Kobe was the best player in the Playoffs, he was a beast in the playoffs and i though he should have been MVP in the finals too...
Young Kobe was so underrated.

SomeCallMeTim
09-14-2010, 03:59 PM
Almost useless trivia: the only team against which Kobe's playoff high exceeds his reg season high is San Antonio.

Phenomanul
09-14-2010, 04:13 PM
Almost useless trivia: the only team against which Kobe's playoff high exceeds his reg season high is San Antonio.

I'm curious about the shot count for those games...

San Antonio has never conceded a 50 point game to anyone since Robinson's rookie year...

DAF86
09-14-2010, 04:38 PM
How did you get those numbers? I'm almost sure that if Iverson hasn't score 40+ on every team in the NBA too, he must be missing just a team or two.

midnightpulp
09-14-2010, 06:01 PM
and who was the main man in the playoffs against your beloved Spurs those years? Shall we post the evidence?

Shaq. If you weren't a dumbfuck Laker fan, you'd understand why Kobe was perceived as "the main man" in the 01 and 02 series.

midnightpulp
09-14-2010, 06:04 PM
If you check on my list again, you'll see Kobe career high against Spurs in the Playoffs ( May 19th, 2001 he scored 45 points in the WCF, 5 days before that on the 13th, he had 48 points to close the Kings in the semifinals... That year, IMO Kobe was the best player in the Playoffs, he was a beast in the playoffs and i though he should have been MVP in the finals too...
Young Kobe was so underrated.

Only a Kobe fantard would think that a player who shot in the mid 40s when another player on the same team is dropping 30+ppg and 15rpg in the same series should be Finals MVP.

Mel_13
09-14-2010, 06:07 PM
How did you get those numbers? I'm almost sure that if Iverson hasn't score 40+ on every team in the NBA too, he must be missing just a team or two.

Basketball-reference.com makes this sort of search really easy:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player=iversal01&match=game&year_min=1997&year_max=2010&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=N&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos=&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=40&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

Just click on the OPP heading to sort by opposing team.

Venti Quattro
09-14-2010, 06:09 PM
grey spurfan showing lakers fans the way! :lmao

midnightpulp
09-14-2010, 06:13 PM
grey spurfan showing lakers fans the way! :lmao

Did you feel full of win typing out that cliched reply?

But yeah, I am showing you morons the way since it's evident you don't know the history of your own franchise.

TinTin
09-14-2010, 06:16 PM
grey spurfan showing lakers fans the way! :lmao

So if midnight's name wasn't grey, what would your retort be?

Venti Quattro
09-14-2010, 06:17 PM
Ha? Of course I know. I watched the games. I know that Shaq was the man of the three-peat and that Kobe and the key players' (Horry, Fox, Fisher and others yada yada) contributions were significant for the three-peat. I just don't feel like exerting effort to combat internet experts like you

Venti Quattro
09-14-2010, 06:19 PM
So if midnight's name wasn't grey, what would your retort be?

remove "grey". come on use some grey matter. oops no pun intended

midnightpulp
09-14-2010, 06:21 PM
Ha? Of course I know. I watched the games. I know that Shaq was the man of the three-peat and that Kobe and the key players' (Horry, Fox, Fisher and others yada yada) contributions were significant for the three-peat. I just don't feel like exerting effort to combat internet experts like you

I'm not the one playing the "internet expert" here. That would be your Kobe fan colleagues who are beyond convinced that Kobe and Shaq were ostensible equals back then.

Wasn't the case.

sefant77
09-14-2010, 06:41 PM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player=&match=game&year_min=1996&year_max=2010&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=LAL&opp_id=&is_playoffs=N&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos=G&c1stat=fg_pct&c1comp=lt&c1val=0.3&c2stat=fga&c2comp=gt&c2val=20&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts