Would the Spurs trade Parker if...

[cantthinkofanything]

Under the assumption that TP is gone after this year...

If Tony Parker returns to All Star form, at what point would the Spurs trade him before the deadline?

Scenario 1: The Spurs are playing above average but not championship caliber bball. Do they keep Parker and hope they get hot at the right time or do they go ahead and trade for future value?

Scenario 2: The Spurs are having and incredible year and competing for one of the best records in the NBA. Do they go ahead and go for one last ring while maybe sacrificing some of their future?

I guess the real question is would the Spurs FO take one more championship now at the risk of having a weaker team in the future.

Would Spurs fans accept a shot at the ring this year if it meant we'd have to settle for an average playoff team for the next several?

[ducks]

do you have a brain

[cantthinkofanything]

do you have a brain

It's a legitimate question and at the heart of the matter as to whether to trade TP or not.

Even if he's playing out of his mind this year, I still think it's pretty improbable that we win a title. But we might be able to trade him at the deadline for some young talent to add to Blair, Hill, Anderson, and Splitter.

[spectator]

another tp trade thread - now say that as fast as you can

[ducks]

It's a legitimate question and at the heart of the matter as to whether to trade TP or not.

Even if he's playing out of his mind this year, I still think it's pretty improbable that we win a title. But we might be able to trade him at the deadline for some young talent to add to Blair, Hill, Anderson, and Splitter.

100000000000000 tp threads here that have the "legimate answer" to his question

[Mel_13]

Under the assumption that TP is gone after this year...

If Tony Parker returns to All Star form, at what point would the Spurs trade him before the deadline?

Scenario 1: The Spurs are playing above average but not championship caliber bball. Do they keep Parker and hope they get hot at the right time or do they go ahead and trade for future value?

Scenario 2: The Spurs are having and incredible year and competing for one of the best records in the NBA. Do they go ahead and go for one last ring while maybe sacrificing some of their future?

I guess the real question is would the Spurs FO take one more championship now at the risk of having a weaker team in the future.

Would Spurs fans accept a shot at the ring this year if it meant we'd have to settle for an average playoff team for the next several?

Although you didn't state it outright, I believe you're making an assumption that it is commonly made by some in these Parker threads. The assumption that if Tony is not traded before the deadline that "he could walk and the Spurs would get nothing in return".

There are at least two things wrong with that assumption:

1. Sometimes nothing is better than something. I'm sure that many posters here would rather take their chances with the best SF in the D-League than have RJ at 4yrs/40M.

2. More importantly, the summer of 2010 provides ample evidence that, at the very least, the Spurs will get a huge trade exception for Tony if he signs with a team that has the cap space to sign him. LeBron, Bosh, Amare, and Boozer all signed with teams that had sufficient cap space. In all four cases, the teams involved negotiated S&Ts that sent large trade exceptions back to the original teams. Utah has already used their TE to acquire Al Jefferson.

So, the real question is:

Can the Spurs work a trade for Parker that brings back better assets than could be acquired with a large TE? Furthermore, are those assets sufficiently superior to that TE to make it worthwhile to make the team worse for the remainder of the 2010-11 season?

The answer to second question is almost certainly negative.

IMO, the only scenario that has the Spurs trading Tony before the deadline involves a season-ending injury to TD or Manu.

[The Truth #6]

I can't the Spurs trading Tony. If he's playing poorly then they won't get a great offer. If he's playing really well, then everyone will want to see if the team can go somewhere in the playoffs. The FO, now that Presti is gone, don't make gutsy moves. They play it safe. So they aren't going to do anything. The safe move is to wait to the off-season and see if they can convince him to take 70 cents on the dollar like most of the other players (except Bonner and Jefferson, you just give them whatever they want and don't think twice about it.)

[Jose Ole]

There's no way Tony's signing a max deal with SA after this season. We better get something for him before he walks this summer... at the least another LOB :lobt2: Let's face it, I find it highly unlikely that Parker will be a Spur next year.

[cantthinkofanything]

Although you didn't state it outright, I believe you're making an assumption that it is commonly made by some in these Parker threads. The assumption that if Tony is not traded before the deadline that "he could walk and the Spurs would get nothing in return".

There are at least two things wrong with that assumption:

1. Sometimes nothing is better than something. I'm sure that many posters here would rather take their chances with the best SF in the D-League than have RJ at 4yrs/40M.

2. More importantly, the summer of 2010 provides ample evidence that, at the very least, the Spurs will get a huge trade exception for Tony if he signs with a team that has the cap space to sign him. LeBron, Bosh, Amare, and Boozer all signed with teams that had sufficient cap space. In all four cases, the teams involved negotiated S&Ts that sent large trade exceptions back to the original teams. Utah has already used their TE to acquire Al Jefferson.

So, the real question is:

Can the Spurs work a trade for Parker that brings back better assets than could be acquired with a large TE? Furthermore, are those assets sufficiently superior to that TE to make it worthwhile to make the team worse for the remainder of the 2010-11 season?

The answer to second question is almost certainly negative.

IMO, the only scenario that has the Spurs trading Tony before the deadline involves a season-ending injury to TD or Manu.

Well said. I can't really disagree with any of that. I don't know enough about the TE potential but I'll take your word for it.
But I would say that if Tony is having a great year and the Spurs are not (regardless of the cause), then it's time to move him. Although now that I think about it, it's hard to think of a team that would take him for just the end of a season that would be willing to give up something in return. Maybe a playoff bound team that had a future draft pick coming from a lottery team.

[Chomag]

This is all based on assumptions but need I remind you of Scola? I hope that Spurs don't repeat that same mistake.

[Mel_13]

Well said. I can't really disagree with any of that. I don't know enough about the TE potential but I'll take your word for it.
But I would say that if Tony is having a great year and the Spurs are not (regardless of the cause), then it's time to move him. Although now that I think about it, it's hard to think of a team that would take him for just the end of a season that would be willing to give up something in return. Maybe a playoff bound team that had a future draft pick coming from a lottery team.

Talk about well said. That's the answer to the Parker question in one sentence.

To get any real value for Tony at the deadline you have to find a team that has the assets that the Spurs want AND:

1. Is willing to give up those assets for a short term rental OR

2. Is willing to give Tony the long term deal he wants and is on the supposed short list of teams that Tony wants to sign with.

That, my fellow Spurs fans, ain't gonna be easy.

[DesignatedT]

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