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Winehole23
09-15-2010, 03:18 PM
Family to Receive $1.5M+ in First-Ever Vaccine-Autism Court Award (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20015982-10391695.html)

Posted by Sharyl Attkisson (http://www.cbsnews.com/8300-31727_162-10391695.html?contributor=41919)

260 comments (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20015982-10391695.html#addcomm)


The first court award in a vaccine-autism claim is a big one. CBS News has learned the family of Hannah Poling will receive more than $1.5 million dollars for her life care; lost earnings; and pain and suffering for the first year alone. (http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/CAMPBELLSMITH.%20DOE77082710.pdf)

In addition to the first year, the family will receive more than $500,000 per year to pay for Hannah's care. Those familiar with the case believe the compensation could easily amount to $20 million over the child's lifetime.

Hannah was described as normal, happy and precocious in her first 18 months.

Then, in July 2000, she was vaccinated against nine diseases in one doctor's visit: measles, mumps, rubella, polio, varicella, diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, and Haemophilus influenzae.

Afterward, her health declined rapidly. She developed high fevers, stopped eating, didn't respond when spoken to, began showing signs of autism, and began having screaming fits. In 2002, Hannah's parents filed an autism claim in federal vaccine court. Five years later, the government settled the case before trial and had it sealed. It's taken more than two years for both sides to agree on how much Hannah will be compensated for her injuries.

In acknowledging Hannah's injuries, the government said vaccines aggravated an unknown mitochondrial disorder Hannah had which didn't "cause" her autism, but "resulted" in it. It's unknown how many other children have similar undiagnosed mitochondrial disorder. All other autism "test cases" have been defeated at trial. Approximately 4,800 are awaiting disposition in federal vaccine court.
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Time Magazine summed up (http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1721109,00.html) the relevance of the Poling case in 2008: ...(T)here's no denying that the court's decision to award damages to the Poling family puts a chink -- a question mark -- in what had been an unqualified defense of vaccine safety with regard to autism. If Hannah Poling had an underlying condition that made her vulnerable to being harmed by vaccines, it stands to reason that other children might also have such vulnerabilities."

Then-director of the Centers for Disease Control Julie Gerberding (who is now President of Merck Vaccines) stated: "The government has made absolutely no statement indicating that vaccines are a cause of autism. This does not represent anything other than a very specific situation and a very sad situation as far as the family of the affected child."

Parker2112
09-15-2010, 03:20 PM
Read this on one of Alex Jones' pages yesterday.

The key:

an unknown mitochondrial disorder Hannah had

Parker2112
09-15-2010, 03:21 PM
The other key:

she was vaccinated against nine diseases in one doctor's visit

alot of doctors are trying to avoid this entirely now IME

boutons_deux
09-15-2010, 03:24 PM
Looks like another case of (BigPharma) private gain but public risk.

BigPharma doesn't even to write off (tax deductible) compensation for a destroyed life as cost of doing business.

DarrinS
09-15-2010, 03:25 PM
Post hoc ergo propter hoc

MannyIsGod
09-15-2010, 03:25 PM
Unless I'm totally mistaken, wasn't there recently a study that pretty much flat out said there was no link between autism and vaccinations?

Parker2112
09-15-2010, 03:31 PM
http://www.infowars.com/millions-of-chinese-oppose-mass-vaccination-plan/


The World Health Organization is at it again trying to push mass vaccinations, this time on the people of China. But its efforts to “eradicate measles” by vaccinating 100 million Chinese children have fueled widespread protest by Chinese citizens who not only distrust their own government’s health recommendations, but also believe that the vaccines are dangerous.
According to the Boston Globe, the Chinese government recently announced a ten-day measles immunization drive that sparked an outcry from concerned citizens over the safety of the vaccines. According to reports, internet bulletin boards have been overflowing with chatter about the campaign, and countless text messages continue to be exchanged among citizenry about potential dangers from getting the vaccine.


http://www.infowars.com/india-halts-vaccine-programme-after-the-deaths-of-four-children/



Vaccine programmes grind to a halt in India once more, when four children died after they received the measles vaccination in Lucknow. The four children were reported to have fainted soon after they were vaccinated and witnesses reported seeing the children’s eyes roll back as they began to have seizures. All of the children were under the age of two years of age, with the youngest being just six months. Sadly the children died before medical aid workers could reach them.
As news of the deaths spread, immunization drives in 41 villages have been halted until further investigations have taken place.
The Indian Express stated in their article “4 children die within minutes of vaccination (http://www.indianexpress.com/news/4-children-die-within-minutes-of-vaccination/663455)” that-
“The immunisation programme was being conducted as part of the government’s Jachha Bachha Suraksha Abhiyan launched on August 15. Minutes after vaccination, the children started gasping for breath.”
NDTV reported that the Health Ministry has ordered an inquiry after the four infants, all now believed to be below nine months, died after the vaccine.

http://www.infowars.com/australia-bans-flu-vaccines-in-children-after-vomiting-fevers-seizures/



Although it’s still summer in North America, it is of course winter in Australia, and the flu season is well under way there. As usual, Australian health authorities have been urging parents there to vaccinate their children against the flu, propagating the mythology that flu vaccines are both safe and effective. But this time around, many Australian parents found out the hard way that they were being lied to.
It didn’t take long to realize the truth after their children start going into convulsions (http://www.naturalnews.com/convulsions.html) following the flu vaccine (http://www.naturalnews.com/flu_vaccine.html) injections. Other children began vomiting or exhibiting dangerously high levels of fever (http://www.naturalnews.com/fever.html). One child has gone into a coma and may never recover.
As reported in WA Today (http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/f… (http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/flu-vaccination-ban-goes-national-after-fever-convulsions-in-children-20100423-tglp.html?from=age_ft))
“Perth mother of two Bea Flint said her 11-month-old boy Avery had a seizure after receiving the first dose of the two-dose flu vaccination (http://www.naturalnews.com/vaccination.html) on Saturday. Mrs Flint said that after the 9am vaccination she noticed Avery had a minor temperature about 2pm. At 7.45pm, Avery started whimpering and moaning. When Mrs Flint got to his cot the baby (http://www.naturalnews.com/baby.html) had vomited and was lying on his side having a seizure. ‘He couldn’t cry – his head was hanging down in the car seat and he couldn’t move. I was petrified – it was one of the worst experiences of my life.”

http://www.infowars.com/new-study-85-of-big-pharma%e2%80%99s-new-drugs-are-%e2%80%9clemons%e2%80%9d-and-pose-health-risks-to-users/


these are linked to actual articles from various sources, not infowars editorials.

Winehole23
09-15-2010, 03:31 PM
@Manny:

I seem to recall that. Bet this settlement gets more run, though.

Parker2112
09-15-2010, 03:36 PM
different kids have varying capability when it comes to metabolising the preservatives pharma co.'s had been using.

for some kids the lack of ability to metabolise created a backlog of toxic shit that was attacking the neorological systems, or so the theory goes.

boutons_deux
09-15-2010, 03:39 PM
The doc in UK got slaughtered and I think "struck off" for his research that BigPharma trashed.

As always, the truth, esp medical truth about human biology and disease, is very hard to know with certitude.

There are 8500 mores vaccine cases backed up? Surely they aren't all vaccine related, but surely more are than aren't.

No vaccine? No school for you.

I'd say that means the govt is shielding the vaccine makers from liability.

baseline bum
09-15-2010, 04:04 PM
The conspiracy theorists win out. What a sad day.

TeyshaBlue
09-15-2010, 04:33 PM
Unless I'm totally mistaken, wasn't there recently a study that pretty much flat out said there was no link between autism and vaccinations?

I think there was, but this case may sit outside of that study since the patient has a unique mitochondrial condition.

Im still not sure how the family won a settlement because a combo of nine vaccines interacted with an unknown mitochondrial disorder.
I would think the physician that put the 9 vacc cocktail together would've been the first one under the microscope.

Parker2112
09-15-2010, 04:36 PM
I think there was, but this case may sit outside of that study since the patient has a unique mitochondrial condition.

Im still not sure how the family won a settlement because a combo of nine vaccines interacted with an unknown mitochondrial disorder.
I would think the physician that put the 9 vacc cocktail together would've been the first one under the microscope.

the official assertion is, or at least was, that the vaccinations are safe enough to administer multiple shots at a single doctors visit. The pressure is that insurance co.'s dont want to pay for multiple office visits, so they are mandating all shots be given simultaneously. If the parent has a problem with their kid being dosed so heavily at once, they may have to take it up with the insurance co. Doctors are becoming more conservative and more cautious lately I think.

Parker2112
09-15-2010, 04:42 PM
just another case of scientific community jumping the gun with toxic shit dosed to the general public, based on the theory that anything can be safe at a low enough dose (ring a bell? Gulf of Mexico?). The toxic crap is the cheapest way to preserve the vaccines (keep oil on the bottom) and preserve the profitability for pharma cos (oil cos).

But as usual, science is fallible, and numbers and data are manipulated to convince greased-palm politicians that there is nothing to fear.

Parker2112
09-15-2010, 04:47 PM
The conspiracy theorists win out. What a sad day.

it used to be that you could ignore the guy talking about the people out to get you who lived in the shadows.

it has gotten to the point that everyone knows there is a segment of society that is willing to step on everyone in its path for $$$$, and they operate in the light of day.

so I think on certain issues the old conspiracy skepticism may fail you at this point

ElNono
09-15-2010, 04:51 PM
Unfortunately we will probably never get to investigate what that 'unknown mitochondrial disorder' is, and how can it be detected before vaccination. The interested parties here just want you to hear that vaccinations are safe for everyone, and the case being settled out of court ensures that everything will get swept under a rug of secrecy.

Nothing to see here, move along.

Parker2112
09-15-2010, 05:01 PM
Thimerosol was the big question mark, and even though manufacturers stopped using it several years ago, the backlog of already-made vaccines was huge, and pharma co.s dosed it to keep from eating inventory costs. Kinda shitty.

Here is more info:
http://vaccinesafety.edu/cc-thim.htm

Wild Cobra
09-15-2010, 06:30 PM
Unless I'm totally mistaken, wasn't there recently a study that pretty much flat out said there was no link between autism and vaccinations?
What were the statistical improbabilities?

It doesn't mean this child didn't receive the losing ticket of the autism lottery. Autism also may be like cancer. Something triggers it, but all cells can mutate.

Nine shots at once...

That's a hell of allot to ask the body to accept. I don't believe this was ever standard practice for infants. I wonder if the doctor was also sued?

Parker2112
09-15-2010, 06:45 PM
What were the statistical improbabilities?

It doesn't mean this child didn't receive the losing ticket of the autism lottery. Autism also may be like cancer. Something triggers it, but all cells can mutate.

Nine shots at once...

That's a hell of allot to ask the body to accept. I don't believe this was ever standard practice for infants. I wonder if the doctor was also sued?

its not 9 shots...some vaccines come as combos...probably 3-4 shots, equaling 9 vaccines. And yes that is standard practice, or was before public outcry

Parker2112
09-15-2010, 06:47 PM
each person has a different sensativity to toxic contaminants. Science can never replicate the varied landscape of the population to perform tests that will take this into account. but we cant very well expect each and every child to be "average" in every respect

Wild Cobra
09-15-2010, 07:44 PM
its not 9 shots...some vaccines come as combos...probably 3-4 shots, equaling 9 vaccines. And yes that is standard practice, or was before public outcry
I don't remember such a practice ever being done to my children. One shot with three vaccines. That was it. Never multiples on the same day.

Parker2112
09-15-2010, 08:42 PM
I don't remember such a practice ever being done to my children. One shot with three vaccines. That was it. Never multiples on the same day.

I think practices started changing in the early 90's...right about the time that autism started occurring more frequently

Wild Cobra
09-16-2010, 12:05 AM
I think practices started changing in the early 90's...right about the time that autism started occurring more frequently
Well, that's fucked up. If it were my choice, only one shot with one immunization at a time. MMR used to be the only multiple vaccination for kids.

Anyway, I thought the idea of autism was the mercury. They have done away with such methods of making shots for children some time ago. I'm worried about the effect of that much at one time on the immune system more the mercury that doesn't exist any longer.

Parker2112
09-16-2010, 12:17 AM
the mercury was a component in the thimerosol. It did stop a while ago. However, People are still afraid of the vaccinations being given all at once, because again, some kids may be predisposed to problems with that many viruses being delivered at once.

Not only that, but there is a growing distrust of the number of mandatory vaccinations, a number which is still growing, and some think the govt is overreaching by increasing the number of mandatory vaccines at the drop of a hat.

Wild Cobra
09-16-2010, 12:23 AM
the mercury was a component in the thimerosol. It did stop a while ago. However, People are still afraid of the vaccinations being given all at once, because again, some kids may be predisposed to problems with that many viruses being delivered at once.

Not only that, but there is a growing distrust of the number of mandatory vaccinations, a number which is still growing, and some think the govt is overreaching by increasing the number of mandatory vaccines at the drop of a hat.
I don't disagree with that. I simply disagree with the practice of multiple vaccinations. There should be time for the body to adjust between shots. I also think vaccinations shouldn't be mandatory.

As for not knowing that started that insane practice. My youngest was born in 1988, and not subjected to such actions, and in the Military health system.

Parker2112
09-16-2010, 12:58 AM
Some thorough discussions:

http://www.naturalnews.com/011764.html


Merck's actions I referrenced earlier:
Without an imperative to eradicate thimerosal immediately, vaccine manufacturers like Merck & Co. seemingly took their time in reducing thimerosal levels in vaccines. After a large public outcry in 1999, Merck & Co. began decreasing or eliminating the amount of thimerosal in its vaccines. In September 1999, Merck announced that its new line of vaccines were preservative-free, but still continued to distribute the remainder of thimerosal-preserved vaccines until 2001. Only after a congressional inquiry in 2002 did they stop distributing their stockpile. Rep. Dave Weldon, R-Fla., called Merck's actions "misleading."


In the past five years, Congress (http://www.naturalnews.com/Congress.html) has also aided vaccine manufacturers, supposedly for "security" reasons. In 2002, a mysterious piggyback on the 2002 Homeland Security bill freed drug companies of liability in lawsuits regarding thimerosal. Called the "Eli Lilly Protection Act" by outraged parents and activists, the then-House Majority Leader Dick Armey told CBS News he snuck the amendment in to keep vaccine-makers from going out of business. Armey claimed it was a matter of national security. "We need their vaccines if the country is attacked with germ weapons."


Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is no stranger to the thimerosal debate, having received $873,000 in contributions from the pharmaceutical industry (http://www.naturalnews.com/pharmaceutical_industry.html) and $10,000 from Eli Lilly. Frist's position allowed him to attempt to help the industry from the inside, according to Kennedy. Kennedy reports that on five occasions, Frist tried to seal the government's vaccine-related documents and shield Eli Lilly from subpoenas. Frist also introduced a provision in the 2005 Senate (http://www.naturalnews.com/Senate.html) Bill S-3 called the "Protecting America (http://www.naturalnews.com/America.html) in the War on Terror Act," that would effectively insulate the pharmaceutical industry from liability for thimerosal poisoning.


A secret memo leaked to the Los Angeles Times reportedly implicates one vaccine manufacturer, Merck & Co., for knowing that thimerosal could pose serious threats to infants. Allegedly, Dr. Maurice Hilleman, one of Merck's top scientists, warned the president of Merck of a possible threat as early as 1991. Dr. Hilleman told executives that six-month-old children receiving regular immunizations frequently received mercury doses 87 times higher than guidelines for the maximum consumption of mercury. Given today's more prudent mercury standards, those thimerosal doses would be 400 times that of safe levels. Dr. Hilleman recommended in the memo that thimerosal be discontinued.


Now all childhood vaccines (http://www.naturalnews.com/childhood_vaccines.html) have at least one mercury-free version, and I urge parents to ask for those versions if they choose to vaccinate their children. Injecting mercury into children, especially infants whose immune systems are still underdeveloped (hepatitis (http://www.naturalnews.com/hepatitis.html) B shots are typically given at birth, before the immune system (http://www.naturalnews.com/immune_system.html) has developed), can be an assault to the immune system.


In 1999 studies began to surface showing that multi-dose vial vaccines, such as the MMR and hepatitis B vaccines, contained enough thimerosal to expose vaccinated children to 62.5 ug of mercury per visit to the pediatrician. This is one hundred times the dose considered safe by the Federal Environmental Protection Guidelines for infants! Worse yet, some infants will receive doses even higher; because thimerosal tends to settle in the vial. If it is not shaken up before being drawn, the first dose will contain low concentrations of mercury and the last dose will contain enormously high concentrations. If your baby (http://www.naturalnews.com/baby.html) is the unlucky one that gets the last dose, serious brain injury can result…
Health And Nutrition Secrets by Russell L Blaylock MD, page 166


Studies of autistic children have frequently shown very high levels of mercury, with no other source but vaccines found for the exposure. These levels are equal to those seen in adults during toxic (http://www.naturalnews.com/toxic.html) industrial exposures.

Genetics plays a part too:
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aspergers_pr.html


One thing nearly everyone in the field agrees on: genetic predisposition. Identical twins share the disorder 9 times out of 10.




The one thing that almost all researchers in the field agree on is that genetic predisposition plays a crucial role in laying the neurological foundations of autism in most cases. Studies have shown that if one identical twin is autistic, there's a 90 percent chance that the other twin will also have the disorder. If parents have had one autistic child, the risk of their second child being autistic rises from 1 in 500 to 1 in 20. After two children with the disorder, the sobering odds are 1 in 3. (So many parents refrain from having more offspring after one autistic child, geneticists even have a term for it: stoppage.) The chances that the siblings of an autistic child will display one or more of the other developmental disorders with a known genetic basis - such as dyslexia or Tourette's syndrome - are also significantly higher than normal.
The bad news from Santa Clara County raises an inescapable question. Unless the genetic hypothesis is proven false, which is unlikely, regions with a higher than normal distribution of people on the autistic spectrum are something no researcher could ask for: living laboratories for the study of genetic expression. When the rain that fell on the Rain Man falls harder on certain communities than others, what becomes of the children?
The answer may be raining all over Silicon Valley. And one of the best hopes of finding a cure may be locked in the DNA sequences that produced the minds that have made this area the technological powerhouse of the world.


It's a familiar joke in the industry that many of the hardcore programmers in IT strongholds like Intel, Adobe, and Silicon Graphics - coming to work early, leaving late, sucking down Big Gulps in their cubicles while they code for hours - are residing somewhere in Asperger's domain. Kathryn Stewart, director of the Orion Academy, a high school for high-functioning kids in Moraga, California, calls Asperger's syndrome "the engineers' disorder." Bill Gates is regularly diagnosed in the press: His single-minded focus on technical minutiae, rocking motions, and flat tone of voice are all suggestive of an adult with some trace of the disorder. Dov's father told me that his friends in the Valley say many of their coworkers "could be diagnosed with ODD - they're odd." In Microserfs, novelist Douglas Coupland observes, "I think all tech people are slightly autistic."

Winehole23
09-16-2010, 05:38 AM
Unfortunately we will probably never get to investigate what that 'unknown mitochondrial disorder' is, and how can it be detected before vaccination. The interested parties here just want you to hear that vaccinations are safe for everyone, and the case being settled out of court ensures that everything will get swept under a rug of secrecy.

Nothing to see here, move along.Essentially, this is exactly the same inference boutons made @ #10.

Winehole23
09-16-2010, 05:40 AM
It's a plausible inference.

desflood
09-16-2010, 09:33 AM
I think practices started changing in the early 90's...right about the time that autism started occurring more frequently
I don't think autism is on the rise. Many normal kids are misdiagnosed with autism because they happen to develop a little slower than other kids. Also, many schools purposely label kids incorrectly as autistic or ADHD for the extra federal funds they get for "learning-disabled" children. Don't kid yourselves - this happens. It's disgusting, but greed rules all.

boutons_deux
09-16-2010, 10:01 AM
There is an epidemic of diagnoses of psychotic kids, not an epidemic of psychotic kids.

BigPharma and their corrupted doctors are pushing anti-pscyhotic drugs into kids and even babies.

BigPharma medicalizes everything and anything human and then pushes a useless, patented, expensive drug.

One of the scariest, saddest articles I ever read described common routine of kindergarten kids taking their drugs dutifully every day. Society is sick, not these kids.

Parker2112
09-16-2010, 10:39 AM
I don't think autism is on the rise. Many normal kids are misdiagnosed with autism because they happen to develop a little slower than other kids. Also, many schools purposely label kids incorrectly as autistic or ADHD for the extra federal funds they get for "learning-disabled" children. Don't kid yourselves - this happens. It's disgusting, but greed rules all.

autism is not nearly the same as ADHDits a whole difft ball of wax

not nearly as easy to misdiagnose, but not easy to diagnose either. Just harder to fake the diagnosis.

A child can be labeled ADD for jumping on the furniture. But Autism requires despondency, resistance to human contact, no language skills, failure to develop physical or empotional bonds with immediate family...not the sort of thing thats prone to false claims.

Parents of autistic go through hell, especially in the worst cases. Its as bad as alzheimers.

Parker2112
09-16-2010, 10:58 AM
One thing that gives a little perspective: Doctors were in the dark about autism until recently, and even since the recent public outcry and subsequent education of the medical community on the issue, the treatment for autism is generally behavioral therapy not prescriptions. So the whole greed thing doesnt come up IMO. Its probably more in the way of suffering, grieving confusion and exasperation

desflood
09-16-2010, 11:17 AM
autism is not nearly the same as ADHDits a whole difft ball of wax
Please don't misunderstand - I never meant to compare the two. It was just another example of how "disabilities" are, purposely or not, incorrectly diagnosed to benefit the school system.

One thing that gives a little perspective: Doctors were in the dark about autism until recently, and even since the recent public outcry and subsequent education of the medical community on the issue, the treatment for autism is generally behavioral therapy not prescriptions. So the whole greed thing doesnt come up IMO. Its probably more in the way of suffering, grieving confusion and exasperation
Among the many things that motivate humans, greed is almost always near the top of the list. Schools receive more money for learning challenged students. If doctors, child or educational psychiatrists receive kickbacks from drug companies for prescribing meds to kids who don't need it, I have no trouble believing that physicians receive certain "benefits" from specific therapy centers recommended by said doctors to the distraught parents of a recently diagnosed "autistic" child.

Parker2112
09-16-2010, 11:41 AM
i understand the power of greed, Im just saying that since there arent medications to treat autism at this point, the big profit is just not there.

This probably explains why doctors didnt diagnose it/treat it for so long...there was no money to be made if they couldnt peddle the drugs

Winehole23
01-06-2011, 04:20 AM
Evidence published a decade ago, giving birth to the belief of a connection between vaccines and autism (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/AutismLiving/), has been deemed outright "fraudulent," according to an editorial published Wednesday in the British Medical Journal.


Dr. Andrew Wakefield, a former British surgeon, published research in 1998 that seemed to establish a link between vaccines and autism. But authors of the editorial confirmed previous suggestions that Wakefield skewed patients' medical records to support his hypothesis that the widely-used measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) combination vaccine was causing autism and irritable bowel disease.The autism-vaccine link was one of the major medical controversies of the last decade.


"Clear evidence of falsification of data should now close the door on this damaging vaccine scare," the authors wrote in the editorial.



According to the editorial, Wakefield stood to gain financially from his purported findings because of his involvement in a lawsuit against manufacturers of the MMR vaccine. British news reports said Wakefield was hired as a consultant by lawyers trying to sue the vaccine's manufacturers. His compensation, they said, was about $750,000.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Autism/link-vaccine-autism-link-fraud-british-medical-journal/story?id=12547823

DarrinS
01-06-2011, 08:24 AM
I knew it was bullshit.

Do they have to pay back the 1.5M? I'm guessing not.

boutons_deux
01-06-2011, 09:52 AM
If one dishonest doctor with no compliant media megaphone can send 1000s of people off in the wrong direction, imagine how a vast conspiracy of super-wealthy/powerful right-wingers can keep 100s of Ms of people totally confused about Reality, while obscuring their own culpability in fucking up the planet.

(One of the Kock Bros threw a big party for the Repugs yesterday and the Repugs assume power to fuck up govt. Think any Repugs are gonna vote their Kock paymasters' interests?)

DarrinS
01-06-2011, 12:01 PM
If one dishonest doctor with no compliant media megaphone can send 1000s of people off in the wrong direction, imagine how a vast conspiracy of super-wealthy/powerful right-wingers can keep 100s of Ms of people totally confused about Reality, while obscuring their own culpability in fucking up the planet.

(One of the Kock Bros threw a big party for the Repugs yesterday and the Repugs assume power to fuck up govt. Think any Repugs are gonna vote their Kock paymasters' interests?)



Loud noises

boutons_deux
01-06-2011, 12:13 PM
... from Darrin the Dupe's shit-for-brain farts

George Gervin's Afro
01-06-2011, 12:56 PM
Loud noises

:lmao

you pegged the darrins' of the world..

ploto
01-07-2011, 11:14 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Autism/link-vaccine-autism-link-fraud-british-medical-journal/story?id=12547823

People in the medical field have known this for years. No other study has ever linked the 2, and his study consisted of 12 kids sent to him by the lawyers for the case. Autism existed for decades before the MMR vaccine.

I try to have sympathy for the parents. They are looking for some outside cause to blame for their kid's autism, but sometimes, a kid is just born a certain way.

ChumpDumper
01-07-2011, 03:07 PM
Most of the reported cases of autism these days would not have been called autism before 1994. Looks like the bar was lowered too far for diagnosis.

boutons_deux
01-10-2011, 12:33 PM
Same with ADHD, etc.

An epidemic of diagnoses, not an epidemic of disorders. BigPharma and corrupt, patient-flipping docs are the criminals.

boutons_deux
01-10-2011, 12:34 PM
From the DouglassReport today:


Immunization researcher hit with fraud allegations


Start pounding those stakes into the ground and gather up some firewood -- we've got a witch to burn.

Today's witch: Dr. Andrew Wakefield, now accused of fabricating the research in his landmark 1998 study that linked vaccinations to autism.

And if he really did fake his work, then burn, baby, burn.

But before you set that fire, ask yourself why so many people are so hellbent on destroying this man -- and what they're so afraid of.

After all, Dr. Wakefield never told anyone not to vaccinate a child. He's not even against vaccinations.

All he did was suggest that the ludicrous combo vaccinations that overwhelm young immune systems be split up into a series of individual shots -- or at least allow parents the option to choose between the two.

That doesn't sound very radical to me -- but you should have seen Anderson Cooper go after Dr. Wakefield on his CNN show the other night. You would've thought he found a Nazi war criminal instead of a relatively minor threat to one of the world's biggest, most powerful and most crooked industries.

If you want some witches, I've got a much better place for you to bring your torches: to the offices of drug company bosses and their public health lackeys who push needless vaccine after needless vaccine on children around the world.

I don't know if these things really cause autism, but it doesn't matter -- because I do know this: Many of these shots are dangerous, unnecessary and ineffective.

You heard me right. Despite the mainstream's mantra that "vaccines have saved millions of lives," let's take the scientific point of view on this: Prove it.

That's how science works, right?

But you can't prove it, because it's just not true -- the very diseases that launched the vaccination movement in the early 20th century were already on the decline before a single arm was ever poked!

These vaccines didn't end disease -- better living conditions, improved sanitation and the greater overall health of advancing society did that.

But while scientists can't prove that vaccines have worked, I can prove they've harmed millions -- and exposed millions more to serious and unacceptable risk while undermining our natural immunity.

In one case, 11 million British kids were given polio shots contaminated with mad cow disease. In a separate case of contaminated polio vaccinations, millions of Americans were "accidentally" injected with a virus known to cause brain tumors.

You want more? I've got plenty. Remember the Lyme disease vaccine? If you don't, that's because it was quickly pulled off the market after being linked to a severe and crippling form of arthritis.

Then there's that dangerous HPV vaccine I've been warning you about, still on the market despite dozens of deaths and thousands of adverse events among little girls across the country.

And don't even get me started on flu shots... or the millions sickened or hurt through the known and expected side effects of "perfectly good" vaccines.

You want to burn a witch, then c'mon baby light that fire -- just make sure you burn the right one.

Wild Cobra
01-10-2011, 01:15 PM
Same with ADHD, etc.

An epidemic of diagnoses, not an epidemic of disorders. BigPharma and corrupt, patient-flipping docs are the criminals.
LOL...

What if it starts with diet and sugar?

boutons_deux
01-10-2011, 01:54 PM
WTF does diet and sugar have to do with MANDATORY vaccines?

boutons_deux
07-20-2011, 10:56 PM
Murdoch's Times went after/slimed Wakefield to protect BigPharma's profits?

http://coto2.wordpress.com/2011/07/17/murdoch-and-vaccines-exposure-of-murdochs-crimes-expose-a-much-larger-story/

Wild Cobra
07-20-2011, 11:10 PM
Unless I'm totally mistaken, wasn't there recently a study that pretty much flat out said there was no link between autism and vaccinations?
If I'm not mistaken, what they found, it's not the vaccinations, but the quantity of them at once and the immune system responses.

Wild Cobra
07-20-2011, 11:13 PM
I think there was, but this case may sit outside of that study since the patient has a unique mitochondrial condition.

Im still not sure how the family won a settlement because a combo of nine vaccines interacted with an unknown mitochondrial disorder.
I would think the physician that put the 9 vacc cocktail together would've been the first one under the microscope.
Without knowing enough details, my first thought is this is a malpractice case against the doctor, not the pharmacies.

Did the pharmacies say all nine of these could be mixed?

greyforest
07-21-2011, 03:02 PM
doctor is at fault, that's too many vaccinations at once

boutons_deux
08-25-2011, 06:00 AM
BMJ admits that fraud claim against Dr. Andrew Wakefield has no basis in fact


A more recent Wake Forest University study determined that 70 of 82 autistic children they studied had measles virus in their guts. Interestingly, the measles virus strain they discovered was not a wild virus -- it was the same strain used in MMR vaccines.


The Sly Admission: Too Late; Damage Done

Private admission of wrong doing by the BMJ to newsletter Age of Autism, spoken evasively out of both sides of Dr. Fiona Godlee's mouth, is insufficient for the public damage done to Dr. Wakefield's integrity. But it has served to inspire a stronger alliance among medical professionals and aware parents of vaccine injured children on both sides of the Atlantic.

http://www.naturalnews.com/033425_BMJ_Andrew_Wakefield.html

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FromWayDowntown
08-25-2011, 08:23 AM
The problem with blaming the doctor, as a legal remedy, is that even if he or she is truly culpable and flagrantly negligent, any damages against him or her are likely capped -- in some instances, at an arbitrarily low number that won't even cover actual economic damages.

Borat Sagyidev
08-25-2011, 08:28 AM
I am glad that finally someone has recognized the mitochondrial role (and the mitochondrial genetics) in disease. Too many of supposed experts focus on nuclear DNA and exclude what actually makes genes activate in the first place, the mitochondria and the environmental exposure of the individual.


WTF does diet and sugar have to do with MANDATORY vaccines?


Your diet can activate and deactivate genes, comparable to what a vaccine does especially in the case of this little girl.

Borat Sagyidev
08-25-2011, 08:30 AM
I don't disagree with that. I simply disagree with the practice of multiple vaccinations. There should be time for the body to adjust between shots. I also think vaccinations shouldn't be mandatory.

As for not knowing that started that insane practice. My youngest was born in 1988, and not subjected to such actions, and in the Military health system.


When did you decide to go on this liberal sidetrack? I like it. It's nice to see someone use their head every once in a while


Was is when Rick Perry wanted to mandate the HPV vaccines?

boutons_deux
08-25-2011, 08:58 AM
"Your diet can activate and deactivate genes"

and exercise. It's called epigenetics

so

WTF does diet and sugar have to do with MANDATORY vaccines?

RandomGuy
08-25-2011, 09:40 AM
Read this on one of Alex Jones' pages yesterday.

The key:

Did he also explain the chemtrails?



Man, that never gets old...


Ok, so maybe it does.