Five Muslim men arrested in Pope assassination plot

[DarrinS]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/the-pope/8008981/Pope-visit-Five-suspected-Islamist-terrorists-arrested-over-assassination-plot.html





The men were arrested during raids at 5.45am at a rubbish depot in central London based on an intelligence tip off received overnight.

The suspects, aged 26, 27, 36, 40 and 50 were arrested by officers from Scotland Yard’s Counter Terrorism Command on suspicion of the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism.

They are said to be from a variety of nationalities including a number of Algerian origin.

The depot where they worked is less than a mile from Hyde Park where the Pope was due to hold a prayer vigil tomorrow evening.

As street cleaners they would have been able to move relatively freely and inconspicuously through the London crowds.

Westminster City Council said the men worked for Veolia Environmental Services, a contractor which employs 650 on-street staff to keep Westminster's streets clean and free from rubbish.

The men have been taken to a central London police station where they will be interviewed by detectives.

Searches are being carried out under the Terrorism Act 2000 at the rubbish depot and at residential premises in north and east London.

Sources said that initial searches had not uncovered any bomb-making or hazardous items.

A spokesman for the Metropolitan Police said the arrests were made after they received “information” and added: “Following initial inquiries by detectives a decision was made to arrest the five men.”

Pope Benedict XVI’s security arrangements were reviewed following the arrests and Scotland Yard said “we are satisfied that our current policing plan remains appropriate. The itinerary has not changed.”

There was no change to the terrorism threat level which remains at “severe” meaning that a terrorist attack is highly likely.

The Pope continued with his engagements, unaffected by the developments.

The Pope has been informed of the arrests, Vatican spokesman Fr Lombardi said. He told reporters there was "no need to change anything about the programme with the Pope and the security for this trip".

"The Pope is calm and happy and we go on with this trip with courage and joy," he added.

"We are totally confident in the work of the police and Scotland Yard."

A multimillion-pound operation is in place to protect the Pope during his tour of Scotland, London and the West Midlands, with thousands of officers involved.

The pontiff is also protected by members of the Swiss Guard.

He often travels in the Popemobile, which has a bulletproof glass enclosure. The Vatican abandoned the use of an open-topped vehicle after the assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II in 1981.

A spokesman for the Catholic Bishops' Conference of England and Wales said: "We have absolute confidence in the security operation to protect both the Pope and the public.

"The Pope is enjoying a wonderful visit, warmly welcomed wherever he goes."

[clambake]

five guys trying to do what 100k parents would like to see.

[doobs]

five guys trying to do what 100k parents would like to see.

link?

[Yonivore]

Muslims? No way...not Muslims.

[clambake]

link?

should i put a ? at the end?

[jack sommerset]

Now a 6th man has been arrested.

Maybe after all is said and done 100,000 parents will be arrested for this alleged plot to kill the Pope.

[clambake]

finally, a plot with substance.

[SnakeBoy]

Muslims? No way...not Muslims.

C'mon now, you must be tolerant. They only wanted to kill him to promote peace and tolerance.

[LnGrrrR]

Ah DarrinS, how I enjoy your logical failings. But it's nice you continue to promote your fear of all Muslims continually on this board.

[lefty]

lol Darrin

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I see the local idiots are out in full force today...

[ChumpDumper]

Of course, all Muslims want to kill the Pope.[/DarrinS]

[Spurminator]

Quit calling him Islamophobic!

[MannyIsGod]

Quit calling him Islamophobic!

[ChumpDumper]

Right, he's just afraid of all Muslims. That's totally different.

[MannyIsGod]

:lol nuance

[LnGrrrR]

:lol nuance

:lmao

[DarrinS]

I think Catholic priests shouldn't molest childrent. This makes me Catholophobic. (I know not ALL Catholic priests molest children.)

I don't believe in the practice of polygamy. This makes me Mormonphobic. (I know not ALL Mormons practice polygamy.)

I think Scientologist are just fucking weird. This makes me Scientolophobic. (Yes, all Scientologists are fucking weird.)

I think killing innocent Christians, Jews, and Hindu in the name of Islam is a bad thing. This makes me Islamophobic. (I know not ALL Muslims are terrorists)


I also don't think the following practices are good:

Honor killings
Stoning
Female circumcision
Wife beating

[Spurminator]

But you don't post three threads a day on any of those things.

You are obsessed with Muslims. You wear Islamophobia like a Badge of Honor. Why does it bother you so much to be called out on it?

Quick! Post a video of some fringe lunatic Muslims from another country to justify your fear of Muslims!

[DarrinS]

But you don't post three threads a day on any of those things.

You are obsessed with Muslims. You wear Islamophobia like a Badge of Honor. Why does it bother you so much to be called out on it?

Quick! Post a video of some fringe lunatic Muslims from another country to justify your fear of Muslims!


I think a lot of religions are idiotic, but at least those religions haven't been flying planes into buildings, beheading people, blowing themselves up, etc.

[Spurminator]

I think a lot of religions are idiotic, but at least those religions haven't been flying planes into buildings, beheading people, blowing themselves up, etc.

:lmao

How do you not see how ridiculous you sound?

You're not this dumb. Your hate has completely taken over. Take a breath.

[LnGrrrR]

I think killing innocent Christians, Jews, and Hindu in the name of Islam is a bad thing. This makes me Islamophobic. (I know not ALL Muslims are terrorists)


Funny; I didn't see that article mention anything about the five attackers saying they wanted to kill the Pope in the name of Allah.

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao

How do you not see how ridiculous you sound?

You're not this dumb. Your hate has completely taken over. Take a breath.

The body of evidence begs to differ.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

DarrinS, its become beyond apparent that either you do not understand what Islamophobia means or you simply refuse to accept that you have it in the face of overwhelming evidence.

You haven't made a single coherent point on this subject. Not one. Why don't you just admit you don't much like Muslims in general, you think they're violent, uncivilized extremists. Everyone already knows this is what you believe. You've outed yourself over and over. I think even you've seen it, but you refuse to acknowledge it because, as I'm fairly certain you know, your criticism of Islam as a religion stems from fear and ignorance.

[ChumpDumper]

I know not ALL Muslims are terroristsYou just know they're ALL potential terrorists.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

:lol yeah, he forgot to add "...yet" there

[MannyIsGod]

I find it funny when people get all up in arms over what they're balled. Being upset over being called Islamophobic while not denying the beliefs that you hold which are the cause of being labeled that is so funny to me.

It doesn't matter what you're called because its not the label thats the issue but underlying beliefs which they apparently have no problems holding.

"I don't mind holding Islamophobic beliefs just don't call me Islamphobic."

[ElNono]

Funny; I didn't see that article mention anything about the five attackers saying they wanted to kill the Pope in the name of Allah.

Not only that, all we have so far is an alleged plot.

[mabrignani]

I think killing innocent Christians, Jews, and Hindu in the name of Islam is a bad thing. This makes me Islamophobic. (I know not ALL Muslims are terrorists)
[/QUOTE]

all muslims believe in the koran, and the koran calls for the killing of christians and jews

[Winehole23]

Where, please?

[Winehole23]

This wino is grateful there are so many learned scholars of Islam on this board. Where ever did they all come from?

[SnakeBoy]

I'm grateful they didn't succeed in killing the Pope.

[MannyIsGod]

It shoudln't take a learned scholar to recognize Muslim >! Muslim extremist.

[DarrinS]

I find it funny when people get all up in arms over what they're balled. Being upset over being called Islamophobic while not denying the beliefs that you hold which are the cause of being labeled that is so funny to me.

It doesn't matter what you're called because its not the label thats the issue but underlying beliefs which they apparently have no problems holding.

"I don't mind holding Islamophobic beliefs just don't call me Islamphobic."



I don't mind being called Islamophobic -- because it really doesn't mean anything.

I find it interesting that there aren't similar "phobic" terms applied to Catholicsiim, Judaism, etc.

[MannyIsGod]

I don't mind being called Islamophobic -- because it really doesn't mean anything.

I find it interesting that there aren't similar "phobic" terms applied to Catholicsiim, Judaism, etc.

Um, are you being serious? Have you ever heard of antisemitic? What do you think they talk about in Ireland?

:lol

Darrin, you're a fucking retard. There is no way around it.

[DarrinS]

Um, are you being serious? Have you ever heard of antisemitic? What do you think they talk about in Ireland?

:lol

Darrin, you're a fucking retard. There is no way around it.


Well, you may be right, but I do know the difference between hate and phobia.

[Winehole23]

Is one preferable to the other? I thought they were both bad...

[ChumpDumper]

Well, you may be right, but I do know the difference between hate and phobia.Do you hate all Muslims or just fear them all?

Give us some nuance.

[DarrinS]

Do you hate all Muslims or just fear them all?

Give us some nuance.



I dislike certain ideas and practices of Islam.

Islam needs a major P.R. makeover and it's not up to non-Muslims to do that.

Building a 15-story, 100 million dollar Islamapalooza center at Ground Zero may work in the long run, but it doesn't seem the be having that effect right now.


EDIT> By they way, CumDump, you have to separate Muslims from Islam.

[ChumpDumper]

I dislike certain ideas and practices of Islam.

Islam needs a major P.R. makeover and it's not up to non-Muslims to do that.

Building a 15-story, 100 million dollar Islamapalooza center at Ground Zero may work in the long run, but it doesn't seem the be having that effect right now.Why not let them build it and find out?

That's right, because you are afraid of them and hate them.



EDIT> By they way, CumDump, you have to separate Muslims from Islam.Why? Please explain why I have to separate them.

[DarrinS]

Why? Please explain why I have to separate them.


Because Islam is a religion and Muslims represent many races of people. Got that, dumb fuck?

[ChumpDumper]

Because Islam is a religion and Muslims represent many races of people. Got that, dumb fuck?:lmao
Mus·lim
noun \ˈməz-ləm, ˈmu̇s-, ˈmu̇z-\
Definition of MUSLIM
1: an adherent of Islamhttp://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/muslim

You were saying?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

where's a face palm pic when you need one...

DarrinS, how do you expect people to take you seriously, when you've been ranting about muslims for god knows how long now, and you didn't even know what the term meant?? you don't even know what you fear! You are the definition of Islamophobic.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Not only that, I'm pretty sure you're a masochist...

[ElNono]

Just wow...

[MaNuMaNiAc]

maybe he meant that there are various denominations of Muslims such a Sunni, Shi'a, etc. I'd like to think that's what he meant. Those still aren't races though, just denominations of Muslims and they still follow Islam.

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao

I thought the biggest ownage Darrin could possibly place upon himself in this thread was saying there was no Jewish equivalent of Islamophobia. Boy, was I wrong.

[TinTin]

Because Islam is a religion and Muslims represent many races of people. Got that, dumb fuck?

What, wow

I thought you would be educated about the people you hate/fear

[redzero]

Is it okay to hate Muslims slightly more than Christians?

[Blake]

:lmao

I thought the biggest ownage Darrin could possibly place upon himself in this thread was saying there was no Jewish equivalent of Islamophobia. Boy, was I wrong.

Islamocredible

[Winehole23]

/got that, dumb fuck?

[Winehole23]

:rollin

[LnGrrrR]

Like I said, he gets worse every day.

[DarrinS]

Good Lord, you dumb fuckers can't read English.

Would you agree that the practitioners of Islam, i.e. Muslims, are made up of a variety of races?

[Bartleby]

It's like the difference between Christianity and Christians.


The practitioners of Christianity, i.e. Christians, are made up of a variety of races. You have to separate them.

[Bartleby]

By the way, those would-be assassins were released.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/18/men-arrested-in-pope-plot-released-police-say/

[ElNono]

Good Lord, you dumb fuckers can't read English.

Would you agree that the practitioners of Islam, i.e. Muslims, are made up of a variety of races?


you have to separate Muslims from Islam.

I would argue that, if anything, you need to learn how to think what you want to communicate, and only then write it.

[ElNono]

By the way, those would-be assassins were released.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/18/men-arrested-in-pope-plot-released-police-say/


Not only that, all we have so far is an alleged plot.

[DarrinS]

I would argue that, if anything, you need to learn how to think what you want to communicate, and only then write it.


Fair enough

[DarrinS]

It's like the difference between Christianity and Christians.


The practitioners of Christianity, i.e. Christians, are made up of a variety of races. You have to separate them.


Do you think a distinction can be made between criticism of Christianity and hating Christians?

[Bartleby]

Do you think a distinction can be made between criticism of Christianity and hating Christians?

About as much as the difference between a fear of Christians and a fear of Christianity--there may be a semantic difference but it pretty much amounts to the same thing.

[Wild Cobra]

Why is it OK for the left to try to stop any development of Chritian symbolism, but they are OK with the Muslims doing it?

Do liberals hate Christianity so much that they are willing to accept Islam to hurt the followers of Christ?

[Bartleby]

Why is it OK for the left to try to stop any development of Chritian symbolism, but they are OK with the Muslims doing it?

Do liberals hate Christianity so much that they are willing to accept Islam to hurt the followers of Christ?

Some examples would be helpful

[ChumpDumper]

Some examples would be helpfulgood luck getting any from WC.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Why is it OK for the left to try to stop any development of Chritian symbolism, but they are OK with the Muslims doing it?

Do liberals hate Christianity so much that they are willing to accept Islam to hurt the followers of Christ?

WTF?? :lol

[Spurminator]

He's obviously talking about all of the marble Koran tablets in our courthouses all over the country.

[Oh, Gee!!]

By the way, those would-be assassins were released.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/18/men-arrested-in-pope-plot-released-police-say/


ohhhhh, you we're planning to shoot some dope.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Why is it OK for the left to try to stop any development of Chritian symbolism, but they are OK with the Muslims doing it?

Do liberals hate Christianity so much that they are willing to accept Islam to hurt the followers of Christ?

I see new Churches going up all of the time. What are you talking about?

[Oh, Gee!!]

I see new Churches going up all of the time. What are you talking about?

but don't you remember all the protests when a new christian church goes up?

[George Gervin's Afro]

but don't you remember all the protests when a new christian church goes up?

They are obviously out to hurt the followers of Christ..

[ChumpDumper]

but don't you remember all the protests when a new christian church goes up?Especially that big one at ground zero.

[MannyIsGod]

Any wonder that WC has managed to enter his stupidity into any number of other threads but refuses to come back here? Pretty funny Darrin hasn't made an appearance either after they let the men go.