Boardwalk Empire

[JudynTX]

Did anyone watch on HBO last night? It reminded me of a 20's version of The Sopranos. :toast

http://www.hbo.com/boardwalk-empire/index.html

[PM5K]

Not yet, recorded it because I fell asleep pretty early last night.

Having said that, I expect Michael Pitt to be very good in this, I think he's an underrated young actor.

[boutons_deux]

Is that the one with piggy Snooki?

[oklahomasuckstexas]

no, i was watching porn. Channel 935 on Time Warner.

[Spurminator]

Pretty awesome. Definitely had Scorcese's stamp all over it.

[mrsmaalox]

I attempted to watch it, but found myself too easily distracted to pay much attention. Even Buscemi, who I absolutely love, couldn't keep me engaged enough to follow very closely. But Michael Pitt definitely stood out and was impressive enough that I want to keep trying to gel with this one. I'm hoping it can override my very limited tv-watching attention span.

[lefty]

Not yet, recorded it because I fell asleep pretty early last night.

Having said that, I expect Michael Pitt to be very good in this, I think he's an underrated young actor.
Same here

[JudynTX]

no, i was watching porn. Channel 935 on Time Warner.

Thx for telling me. :lol


Pretty awesome. Definitely had Scorcese's stamp all over it.

Yep, it sure did. Mark Wahlberg is Executive Producer.

[DesignatedT]

I havent seen it yet but am planning on watching them.

[Fpoonsie]

Liked it a lot, and was thrilled that it had such an explicit Sopranos OVERtone.

The Enoch/Jimmy, Tony/Chrissy relationship for example...

[DJ Mbenga]

dont have hbo anymore. too busy watching breaking bad and mad men. might check out "the event" maybe its worth the hype. i read people said this was good but not great. hbo better hope this is a hit cause true blood aint gonna get it done

[AnthonyM]

I watched it. I liked it but I thought that too much was crammed into the first episode. Like, they tried to bring in a bunch of important characters and didn't really give them too much time on screen to remember them. But, I think I'm the only one who felt like that. But, it'll get better over time I think.

*SPOILER*

And yeah, it had Scorsese written all over it, from the writing to the camera work. And of course, the obvious death montage at the end of the episode set to background music that we've grown accustomed to from Scorsese.

[Zelophehad]

dont have hbo anymore. too busy watching breaking bad and mad men.

You only watch 25 hours of TV a year? Props on your active life brah.

[Zelophehad]

double post offense ftw!

http://www.basketballsense.com/Books/double-post_offense.aspx

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I just can't watch Michael Pitt. I think he's pretty damn bad to be honest. Most people seem to disagree with me on this, so I guess its a taste thing.

[AnthonyM]

double post offense ftw!

You edited it but said I posted a spoiler...

I went back and changed it but it wasn't much of a spoiler but if you didn't think that a Scorsese directed series about prohibition that includes Steve Buscemi as a corrupt politician and characters like Al Capone would involve death then lol

[Zelophehad]

You edited it but said I posted a spoiler...

I went back and changed it but it wasn't much of a spoiler but if you didn't think that a Scorsese directed series about prohibition that includes Steve Buscemi as a corrupt politician and characters like Al Capone wouldn't involve death then lol

I removed it because this is a thread about the series, so you would expect people would talk about what happens in it. The specific type of sequence you mentioned is what I objected to before I realized where I was.

[DesignatedT]

Just watched the first episode and can't wait for the next one. At first I wasn't sure if the series would be typical Scorsese (gory and violent) from the previews I saw but it definitely is and I really liked the first episode.

[CuckingFunt]

The premiere wasn't quite what I wanted from a single episode (I thought there were a few issues with the pacing, and the fake incubator baby dolls were amusing enough to be distracting), but I definitely see potential as a series. I thought Michael Stuhlbarg was especially good as Arnold Rothstein, and I've liked Steven Graham as an actor (Capone) since Snatch.



Also, purely for the sake of addressing a pet peeve, Scorsese's style was indeed all over last night's episode, but not necessarily because it was gory gangsters. Despite the obvious popularity of Goodfellas, Mean Streets, and the like, the Mafia/gangster stuff makes up a pretty small percentage of his filmography.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I was impressed. The premiere did a good job of introducing all the major players and setting the table for future conflicts/wars/uprisings. Looking forward to next week.

[DesignatedT]

I was impressed. The premiere did a good job of introducing all the major players and setting the table for future conflicts/wars/uprisings. Looking forward to next week.

I felt that was a major strong point also. They really did a nice job of introducing the characters in 1 episode... Unlike for example, The Pacific if anyone watched. I could still only name like 3 guys in that series after the final episode.

[CharlieMac]

That shit was fucking amazing.

It was a little fast paced for a first episode like someone mentioned earlier, but I was okay with it. I needed an attention grabber with all the hype that it was given.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I felt that was a major strong point also. They really did a nice job of introducing the characters in 1 episode... Unlike for example, The Pacific if anyone watched. I could still only name like 3 guys in that series after the final episode.

but in all fairness, The Pacific ended up being a great show.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

but in all fairness, The Pacific ended up being a great show.

I suppose I just compared it to BoB as I watched it but I completely was turned off by the whole unit R&R, individual psych eval etc of the series. I just could not make myself empathize in any way and I wanted more displacing machineguns.

[DesignatedT]

Looking forward to the new episode tonight.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I suppose I just compared it to BoB as I watched it but I completely was turned off by the whole unit R&R, individual psych eval etc of the series. I just could not make myself empathize in any way and I wanted more displacing machineguns.

If you compare any war-themed series to BoB, it will always pale in comparison. I looked at pacific with no expectation that it would rival BoB, and was able to really enjoy it as its own show.

[DesignatedT]

but in all fairness, The Pacific ended up being a great show.

I did enjoy The Pacific. I thought it started slow but really picked up the last half of the series.

[Spurminator]

Oh hell yeah, Omar's back.

[JudynTX]

Anyone still watching this? Incredible series.

[Hungry farmer]

no

[DeadlyDynasty]

Anyone still watching this? Incredible series.

One of the best shows imo:toast

I've always had a fascination with the mafia though, so I'm a little biased. I haven't seen last night episode yet but the show is getting better and better. Love the fictional character of Jimmy Darmody as an active participant/witness to history. Seeing Michael K. Williams (Omar in The Wire) as Chalky White is a plus too:toast

[mrsmaalox]

I'm totally hooked ;)

[CuckingFunt]

I like it, but not as much as I wanted to. I find myself annoyed by many of the same things that kept me from getting into "The Sopranos."

[Duff McCartney]

I think the show is really great. I loved the scene between Nucky and the guy who is a politician or something when they are at the Caucus/Primary for Warren G. Harding. As a history buff, that is so typical 1880-1930 United States politics and I find it to be brilliant.

There are a few characters that annoy the hell out of me. I liked when Jimmy was pimping Luciano around if only so briefly. Also Van Alden is pretty damn annoying. I hope he gets killed off soon. I think it's probably his religious thing that annoys the hell out of me.

P.S. The guy who plays Richard, the WWI vet who wears the mask is a really good actor. Call it weird but I really like when he speaks, he does such a good job, you would think he's really missing half his face.

[TE]

great show.

[JudynTX]

One of the best shows imo:toast

I've always had a fascination with the mafia though, so I'm a little biased. I haven't seen last night episode yet but the show is getting better and better. Love the fictional character of Jimmy Darmody as an active participant/witness to history. Seeing Michael K. Williams (Omar in The Wire) as Chalky White is a plus too:toast

:toast There sure were alot of whores back in the 20's. :lol


I'm totally hooked ;)

:toast


I think the show is really great. I loved the scene between Nucky and the guy who is a politician or something when they are at the Caucus/Primary for Warren G. Harding. As a history buff, that is so typical 1880-1930 United States politics and I find it to be brilliant.

Steve Buscemi is the only actor that could have played the role of Nucky. Elections were bought back then, just as they are now. :D


There are a few characters that annoy the hell out of me. I liked when Jimmy was pimping Luciano around if only so briefly. Also Van Alden is pretty damn annoying. I hope he gets killed off soon. I think it's probably his religious thing that annoys the hell out of me.

Val Alden is a freak, I too hope he gets killed off. :wow @ baptism


P.S. The guy who plays Richard, the WWI vet who wears the mask is a really good actor. Call it weird but I really like when he speaks, he does such a good job, you would think he's really missing half his face.

:tu

Series finale is next Sunday. :( But......

Along with critical acclaim and high ratings, HBO renewed Boardwalk Empire for a second season. :cheer

[mrsmaalox]

Yep that Van Alden is psycho---I was expecting all along that he would end up in a romantic rivalry with Nucky for the hand of the fair Margaret, and make the show too soapy for me. But no, he's just fuckin' pathological :toast

I could pretty much do without the Jimmy's bi wife storyline; doesn't really add anything to the show.

My favorite episode so far has been the one about Nucky and his dad's dysfunction; that was a really great look into what makes Nucky tick.

[Cane]

Great show however I hope they aren't going to get rid of the Van Alden character, imo he's the second best guy on the show next to Mr. Pink. More Al Capone would be great as well.

Here's an interview with Michael Shannon about Van Alden's recent actions:



Van Alden hasn't turned out at all the way we expected. Was there some point when you got a script and were like, “Oh, wow. I didn’t know he was going to be this kind of guy.”
Well, it was a little disappointing. The thing that disappointed me the most was when he drank. Shooting that episode in general was kind of upsetting. I guess I figured he’d probably drink eventually. I just didn’t think it would happen so quickly. It’s fine. I just thought maybe, you know, the second season or if we were lucky, the third season. But to put it right in the first season I was like, oh, all right. You don’t know anything when you view the script for the pilot, and you get the script for the next episode after read-through, so you don’t know. It’s kind of like walking out onto a bridge that isn’t finished being built and then they build it as you’re walking across the chasm.

He’s not even that good at his job.
I don’t think it’s necessarily fair to say he’s not good at his job. I think he’s been put in an impossible situation. I think he actually is good at his job. I mean, he knows Jimmy Darmody killed all those guys. It’s not like he doesn’t know what happens. He just can’t do anything about it. And that’s not really his fault. That’s because his boss won’t let him do anything. Van Alden’s not at the top of the food chain. He’s a mid-level guy.

So let’s talk about the two really surprising things that Van Alden has done in the last two episodes. On last night’s episode, he drowned Agent Sebso. Tell me about that.
I don’t think he wanted to kill him, I just think he wanted to baptize him. The kid, he wouldn’t say yes and, you know, Van Alden’s a very angry person and I think when he drowns Sebso, he’s drowning everybody. He’s drowning Nucky, he’s drowning this whole situation. Because I think he resents the fact that he’s been put in the middle of so much sin and depravity. I think Van Alden really wants to be a good person, but there’s a lot of resentment and frustration built up inside of him because he can’t — it’s impossible. In this environment, he can’t maintain his character and his ideals. And so he’s disgusted with himself as much as anybody else … I think the word is he snapped.

Sebso’s not a particularly upstanding gentleman, but he dies because he refuses to convert, which takes some spine.
Sebso’s a little creep. He shot the witness. He’s not a good person. Sebso’s an asshole. I mean, I’m not saying he deserved to die, but he’s not an example of a great guy.

The other really surprising thing Van Alden did happened in the previous episode, when he had sex with Lucy. Why’d he do that?
I think it’s fairly obvious that the thing that Margaret and Lucy have in common is that they're both with Nucky, and I think that Van Alden is fascinated with Margaret and upset with Nucky. I think he’s also fascinated with Nucky, too. And in a weird way, being with Lucy is some sort of attack on Nucky for him, some way of getting back at him for taking Margaret.

But he’s so disgusted with himself after having sex with Lucy, cowering at the end of the bed.
Well, yeah. It was a bad play, no question. I think anybody with two nickels to rub together would know it’s a bad play.

Van Alden seems like the kind of person who would think it was a bad play any time he had sex with anyone.
Yes. Pretty much. I think if it was Margaret, he wouldn’t be so repulsed, but it doesn’t matter, because it’s not going to happen.

What is it about Margaret that Van Alden is so drawn to?
I think there’s probably some pretty simple things about it. You know, she’s a beautiful woman and he’s probably attracted to her. It’s probably the first time he’s ever actually been physically attracted to somebody. I don’t think he’s attracted to his wife or anybody. I think he also, at the beginning, imagines that he can save her. He wants to save her from her horrible life and he sees her as this pure person, angelic and innocent. And he knows that she’s heading down this path towards Nucky and all the sin and ugliness, but he doesn’t give up hope that maybe he can rescue her from that.

But he seems like he’s given up on hope now.
Yeah, that happens after he goes to Margaret’s house. There is that scene that nobody wants to ask me about. They want to ask about, you know, when you drank and you banged Lucy and you drowned a dude, but there’s also a really important scene where I go to Margaret’s house and I say, “I can see your soul.” You know, really intense. I lay it all out on the table and she tells me to go away. To me, that’s the turning point, when all the dominoes start falling is when I walk out of her house. He just lost everything. He knows Jimmy Darmody’s guilty and he wants to put him in jail. He can’t make that happen. He can’t trust his partner and he can’t trust his boss. He can’t get anything done in his work and then the woman that he’s in love with tells him that he’s a jerk and to get out of her house.

He’s so unsettling, you don’t blame Margaret for telling him to get lost.
I don’t blame anybody for anything. I certainly don’t think Margaret should be in love with Van Alden. But it’s what he wants. He wants to put Jimmy Darmody in jail. He wants to run away with Margaret. I mean, that’s just what he wants and he can’t have it. So, he can’t have anything he wants, he might as well go get drunk. Isn’t that the way it is in life? Can’t get what you want, you go be a drunk.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/11/michael_shannon_boardwalk_empi.html

[mrsmaalox]

^^Nice interview, thanks for posting! Mr Shannon sure has a lot of sympathy for that sicko, huh? ;)

[CuckingFunt]

I watched an episode with a cousin who knows Michael Shannon from working in New York theater circles and she said he's a total creeper. Not a bad person, or mean, just creepy and weird. Which is not at all surprising.

[JudynTX]

Yep that Van Alden is psycho---I was expecting all along that he would end up in a romantic rivalry with Nucky for the hand of the fair Margaret, and make the show too soapy for me. But no, he's just fuckin' pathological :toast

He proved that.


I could pretty much do without the Jimmy's bi wife storyline; doesn't really add anything to the show.

Yeah, a big meh to that storyline, it's bringing nothing to the series, except a little lesbian action. :lol


My favorite episode so far has been the one about Nucky and his dad's dysfunction; that was a really great look into what makes Nucky tick.

I don't have a favorite, love them all. :D

Where do you think Margaret went?

[JudynTX]

:hat Comments, criticism from last night's finale?

[DeadlyDynasty]

I'm watching the final ep tonight, can't wait.

W/o giving anything away, was it good or a letdown?

[JudynTX]

I'm watching the final ep tonight, can't wait.

W/o giving anything away, was it good or a letdown?

It was good.

[lefty]

Van ALden is a proud papa :lmao

[lefty]

:hat Comments, criticism from last night's finale?
Pretty good IMO

The scene where Nucky tells the story of his family was Emmy worthy IMO.

Regarding the possible Jimmy-COmmodore-Eli alliance, it's gonna be interesting to see how it turns out

And LMAO Van Alden

[mrsmaalox]

It was great! I don't think Jimmy can turn against Nuckey, but it'll be great to see how it all plays out. And I love how Margaret's righteousness softened at the prospect of becoming destitute, just as I suspected :)

I'm just wondering how long HBO is going to make us wait for the next season? Now that this latest Sunday night lineup from HBO is over, I have absolutely nothing left to watch; it sure was nice having one night of tv to look forward to.

I've read that HBO will be running a "Mildred Pierce" miniseries next year, but I'm kinda scared to have a look because I'm such a fan of the original Joan Crawford classic. It'd be devastating to see it messed with :(

[JudynTX]

It was great! I don't think Jimmy can turn against Nuckey, but it'll be great to see how it all plays out. And I love how Margaret's righteousness softened at the prospect of becoming destitute, just as I suspected :)

She knew she had it good.


I'm just wondering how long HBO is going to make us wait for the next season? Now that this latest Sunday night lineup from HBO is over, I have absolutely nothing left to watch; it sure was nice having one night of tv to look forward to.

I don't know when new season will start.

[Duff McCartney]

It was great! I don't think Jimmy can turn against Nuckey, but it'll be great to see how it all plays out. And I love how Margaret's righteousness softened at the prospect of becoming destitute, just as I suspected :)

I'm just wondering how long HBO is going to make us wait for the next season? Now that this latest Sunday night lineup from HBO is over, I have absolutely nothing left to watch; it sure was nice having one night of tv to look forward to.

I've read that HBO will be running a "Mildred Pierce" miniseries next year, but I'm kinda scared to have a look because I'm such a fan of the original Joan Crawford classic. It'd be devastating to see it messed with :(

I don't understand that Jimmy turning on Nucky either. He simply can't. You know he's just listening to his real dad, but when his dad said the thing about him being his flesh and blood I expected Jimmy to say yeah and you haven't done shit for me.

I thought when Jimmy told Nucky he didn't care for him, Nucky would pull out the saved his life card because he should have killed Jimmy for what he did with Capone and fucking it up between Nucky and Rothstein.

I thought it was a really good season finale, and Van Alden is one fucking psycho piece of shit. I really dislike him, and I hope they find out about him killing Sebso.

I really can't reconcile how Van Alden's superiors decry him for being obsessed with Atlantic City, then Sebso, the reasonable one of them all, suddenly dies of a heart attack and they don't suspect him. Crazy but maybe the next season will remedy it all.

I hope Jimmy doesn't turn on Nucky and become an enemy, I really like him as a character.

[ace3g]

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[mrsmaalox]

No date?

[lefty]

Capone growing

Van Alden going commando

KKK

1 nigga vs the KKK





Daaaaaaaaaaaamn

[DesignatedT]

Teaser looks legit. Can't wait.

[JudynTX]

Teaser looks legit. Can't wait.

Did you watch?

Nelson gives me the damn creeps.

I'm getting the impression Jimmy is going to take over Nucky's role. :wow

[mrsmaalox]

I liked the season opener, it was a good set up for the season. Looks like everyone is gonna turn against Nucky so it'll be great to see how he keeps the power (and teaches them a good lesson)----because you know he will! I was thankful for not too much Margaret in the premiere, too much of her Irish mumbling gets on my nerves. And that Van Alden, what a SICKO :lol

[JudynTX]

I liked the season opener, it was a good set up for the season. Looks like everyone is gonna turn against Nucky so it'll be great to see how he keeps the power (and teaches them a good lesson)----because you know he will! I was thankful for not too much Margaret in the premiere, too much of her Irish mumbling gets on my nerves. And that Van Alden, what a SICKO :lol

I find it hard to believe that Lucy's carrying Wacko Nelson's baby. :lol

Why is he stealing money for her?

[Trill Clinton]

Yea I think Nelson is being hustled into paying her hush money, sucker:lol


Overall, the episode was good. I hope they don't kill off Chalky. He's one of my fav characters on the show.

[JudynTX]

Yea I think Nelson is being hustled into paying her hush money, sucker:lol


Overall, the episode was good. I hope they don't kill off Chalky. He's one of my fav characters on the show.

And we haven't seen the last of the KKK either. :lol

[Trill Clinton]

And we haven't seen the last of the KKK either. :lol


I doubt it. Looks as if the KKK is going to an inticate part of the show since Nucky's brother is using them to do his dirty work.

[Fpoonsie]

Can someone tell me the name of the song Chalky's son was playing on the piano? I've heard it more and more recently, and I love it.

[mrsmaalox]

Too easy! "Clair de Lune"--Claude Debussy ;)

[Fpoonsie]

Too easy! "Clair de Lune"--Claude Debussy ;)

:lol You're amazing. Thanks.

Unfortunately, most of my "classical music" talk consists of me doing a lot of "ya know, the one that goes 'duh-dih-dih-duuuuh...duh-diiiiih-duuuuuh'."

[mrsmaalox]

:lol You're amazing. Thanks.

Unfortunately, most of my "classical music" talk consists of me doing a lot of "ya know, the one that goes 'duh-dih-dih-duuuuh...duh-diiiiih-duuuuuh'."

Ha, better that than if you had said, "You know, that song from "Twilight"...." Then I would have just :smchode:

[Fpoonsie]

Lulz. No WONDER it sounded familiar.

:oops

[mrsmaalox]

I enjoyed last night's episode.

By the end of last season I was kinda fed up with Margaret and her "holier than thou" mumbling, but wow did she redeem herself last night! I loved her acting job to get past those agents. And more Chalky, no Van Alden was a nice break for this episode too. :tu

I get the feeling that we're headed to a Nucky/Jimmy alliance that'll leave all the backstabbers reeling, but maybe that's just wishful thinking. I've got my fingers crossed though ;)

[DeadlyDynasty]

Van Alden is one of the most diabolical characters I've ever seen. Just a fucking weird, sadistic, plotting bastard:lol

[Fpoonsie]

Solid episode. Chalky's such a pimp.

Anybody notice the Uncle Junior cameo near the end? He mighta been hard to spot under all the white fluff...

If he sticks around for a bit, I might actually start getting excited each Sun for this show.

[mrsmaalox]

Counting down the minutes till the season finale.......Nucky will ruin everyone, as promised!!

[lefty]

I've missed the last 5 episodes :lol


:pctoss


Onto illegal downloads

[DesignatedT]

Counting down the minutes till the season finale.......Nucky will ruin everyone, as promised!!

You got that right!!

[JudynTX]

:depressed I did not imagine that would be the season finale!

Val Alden is on the run, Margaret is about to get herself whacked and then there's Jimmy. Sigh!

Looking forward to Season 3 next year. :tu

[leemajors]

This season was fucking good.

[JudynTX]

This season was fucking good.

Any thoughts on the scene between Jimmy and his mother? :wakeup

[Trill Clinton]

Love how the season ended. Gonna be interesting to see Margaret's fate next season. Will she decide to testify against Nucky if he comes down on her for signing his land to the church?

[mrsmaalox]

It was excellent! I love how it ended and I can hardly wait to see what becomes of Margaret and Jimmy's psycho mother, but I wouldn't be surprised if they keep them around long enough for us to really hate them, like Tony Soprano's mom :lol. I don't care about Van Alden at all, but Richard Harrow should become a major player and step into Jimmy's shoes. But now that Nucky is a real gangster, I'm wondering if going with family loyalty and choosing Eli over Jimmy was wise----Eli is such a worm!

Thank goodness there will be some basketball coming up to kill time until next season ;)

[leemajors]

Any thoughts on the scene between Jimmy and his mother? :wakeup

i was just wondering when and how they would show it. it was not pleasant.

[CuckingFunt]

I thought this season was miles better than the first, but I'd love if in season 3 they offered some character development to go with all this plot they keep giving me. The show is much more interested in telling me that people are doing stuff than they are at telling me why people are doing the stuff they're doing.

[baseline bum]

Margaret's such a c*nt, but it's funny as hell seeing her and Nucky take turns screwing each other over. Best moment of season 2 was seeing her son say he couldn't move his legs. :lol

[Reck]

Margaret's such a c*nt, but it's funny as hell seeing her and Nucky take turns screwing each other over. Best moment of season 2 was seeing her son say he couldn't move his legs. :lol

That was a cunty thing to do. I genuinely got pissed at the little bitch.

I so would have gone ham on that kid for that faggotry. :lol

[AussieFanKurt]

Just started watching this show, man it's good. I got a bit sick of watching so much Game of Thrones and glad I watched this. How many seasons are there so far?

[leemajors]

2

[leemajors]

Damn, Stephen Root comin up? Liked the premiere. On to Downton Abbey

[DesignatedT]

Liked it as well. Van Alden and Richard Harrow storylines look to be interesting.

[mrsmaalox]

Liked the premiere! I like that all the main characters seem to be in a "transition" phase and it'll be great to see what direction everyone goes.

[Reck]

At first I was rather confused as to where the characters stood. I also found it odd that Gillian and everyone else except for Richard acted like Jimmy wasn't part of their lives at all.

The episode was boring for me for the fist half. It really picked up half way though.

[Trill Clinton]

so is Harrow going to be one of Nucky's hitmen or is he going to go solo?

[Reck]

so is Harrow going to be one of Nucky's hitmen or is he going to go solo?

I'm thinking he'll infiltrate Nucky's ranks and take everyone out one by one.

He's already doing work as it is.

[leemajors]

I'm thinking he'll infiltrate Nucky's ranks and take everyone out one by one.

He's already doing work as it is.

I took that as strictly revenge for Angela, the only lady who looked past his defects. I think he may be more likely to kill Gillian, he was clearly disturbed by her having the kid call her mom.

[JudynTX]

So Gillian doesn't know that Jimmy is dead?

[leemajors]

So Gillian doesn't know that Jimmy is dead?

I think she's pretended it didn't happen so long she started to believe it. She's clearly off her rocker.

[mrsmaalox]

I'm kinda bored. I'm dying for something to happen with Van Alden, hopefully he and his wife killing that guy starts something; Van Alden is an excellent psycho, why did they need Gyp Rosetti? And I'm tired of Margaret and her hospital thhing. Also Nucky, for all his efforts to prove he's not half a gangster, seems to be cold bloodedly killing the wrong people (like it's just to prove something to himself) and his showgirl storyline is cliche. And where is Harrow?! And why isn't Mickey Doyle dead yet?! Something's gotta give!

[leemajors]

I'm kinda bored. I'm dying for something to happen with Van Alden, hopefully he and his wife killing that guy starts something; Van Alden is an excellent psycho, why did they need Gyp Rosetti? And I'm tired of Margaret and her hospital thhing. Also Nucky, for all his efforts to prove he's not half a gangster, seems to be cold bloodedly killing the wrong people (like it's just to prove something to himself) and his showgirl storyline is cliche. And where is Harrow?! And why isn't Mickey Doyle dead yet?! Something's gotta give!

Prerty much my sentiments, and why are they wasting Chalky on piddly shit. I'm hoping Owen and Harrow take down rosetti, it looks that way from the preview for the next ep (which looks and damn well better be awesome). It took the hit on rosetti gone bad for that last ep to be worthwhile.

[JudynTX]

I'm kinda bored. I'm dying for something to happen with Van Alden, hopefully he and his wife killing that guy starts something; Van Alden is an excellent psycho, why did they need Gyp Rosetti? And I'm tired of Margaret and her hospital thhing. Also Nucky, for all his efforts to prove he's not half a gangster, seems to be cold bloodedly killing the wrong people (like it's just to prove something to himself) and his showgirl storyline is cliche. And where is Harrow?! And why isn't Mickey Doyle dead yet?! Something's gotta give!

Nucky's in lust with Billie, he's clearly not thinking straight. :lol I'm not bored yet. You never really liked Margaret, huh? :lol

[mrsmaalox]

Prerty much my sentiments, and why are they wasting Chalky on piddly shit. I'm hoping Owen and Harrow take down rosetti, it looks that way from the preview for the next ep (which looks and damn well better be awesome). It took the hit on rosetti gone bad for that last ep to be worthwhile.
Yea Chalky is definitely being wasted, he's big time. Hopefully the next episode will be Rosetti's last.

[mrsmaalox]

Nucky's in lust with Billie, he's clearly not thinking straight. :lol I'm not bored yet. You never really liked Margaret, huh? :lol

I like her when she's connives for crime, not when she connives for social justice :lol

[JudynTX]

I like her when she's connives for crime, not when she connives for social justice :lol

I thought her and Owen made a good couple. :lol

[Reck]

I still think the creators made a huge mistake by killing Jimmy. He had all the potential for the series.

The series is on a tail spin and its only the second season.

Rosetti turned out to be quite the wierdo, no? lol

[mrsmaalox]

Well last night's episode was great compared to the last 2, hopefully it builds up from here. It was getting toward the end and I was thinking "But wait, no one has been killed yet!" when BOOM! :lol I liked the Billie character, but Nucky just wasn't himself around her so I'm glad she's gone (I hope). I love getting more of Harrow and Van Alden/Mueller, but I need some Chalky! And the scene where Kessler breaks the "news" about Jimmy's death was great! ;)

[Trill Clinton]

dope episode.

i too am glad that chick nucky was seeing died.

he was pussy whipped and i was losing respect for his character.

[CuckingFunt]

Van Alden hulking out was hilariously awkward.

[ChumpDumper]

He really looked like Frankenstein's monster.

[Reck]

Am I the only one who thinks Nucky's go to guy is about to bit the dust?

Good episode indeed.

[Reck]

What happened to this show? It has turned into some kind of circus.

Tonight's episode was confusing.

[DMC]

It's just the writers dragging it out. There are so many nothing shows in this series. Sure some will say otherwise, but it's really apparent when the writers are just half stepping to get to the next episode. It's like the shitty songs on an album with 2 good ones. We all know Capone is going to be the boss in Chicago. To me, that's much more interesting than what's happening with Thompson.

[Koolaid_Man]

It's just the writers dragging it out. There are so many nothing shows in this series. Sure some will say otherwise, but it's really apparent when the writers are just half stepping to get to the next episode. It's like the shitty songs on an album with 2 good ones. We all know Capone is going to be the boss in Chicago. To me, that's much more interesting than what's happening with Thompson.

I found the episode when the mother fucked her son to be extremely neurotic....

[DMC]

I found the episode when the mother fucked her son to be extremely neurotic....

Don't you mean "erotic".

I think she fucked a look alike, her son was dead. Don't recall her and Jimmy fucking.

[CuckingFunt]

Don't you mean "erotic".

I think she fucked a look alike, her son was dead. Don't recall her and Jimmy fucking.

Flashback. Episode before last season's finale.

[mrsmaalox]

Whoa, that Gyp Rosetti is one psycho motherucker, huh?! I need for him to DIE real soon, he's too dumb to be as dangerous as he is! I like Nucky coming out of the head injury a bit unstable, we're seeing the brutality that he needs to survive this power shift that is trying to happen. But I think Nucky and his brother are gonna unleash holy hell (with a little assist from the crooked politicians) and Arnold Rothstein and coup will be paying back for a LONG time. Harrow should turn on Gillian and join with Slater on Team Nucky; but I kinda hope Slater gets killed (after Nucky finds out about the affair) so Margaret is forced to stay and be humiliated by Nucky; I can't stand her stupid ass sometimes----she's only screwed Slater a couple of times, they don't even have real conversations, and she's ready to run off with him?? Dumb bitch!

[leemajors]

It's just the writers dragging it out. There are so many nothing shows in this series. Sure some will say otherwise, but it's really apparent when the writers are just half stepping to get to the next episode. It's like the shitty songs on an album with 2 good ones. We all know Capone is going to be the boss in Chicago. To me, that's much more interesting than what's happening with Thompson.

I just don't understand why they built up Rosetti to be the main villain this season when anyone with passing knowledge of the era knows he never existed - he should have been around a few episodes and then been killed. There is plenty of material already there with Rothstein, Luciano, Lansky, Capone, and Masseria to have an incredibly entertaining show. The attorney general storyline and the political side of stuff and the Old Overholt distillery deal are far more interesting to me than Rosetti, but I guess that is all setup for next season.

[CuckingFunt]

I still find myself wishing this show cared as much about character development as I do, because that's really the only thing keeping it from being at the Mad Men/Breaking Bad/Treme level for me.

This is one of those shows that is great at giving me ample information about what these people do and/or what happens to them, but there are almost zero characters in the ensemble where I feel I have a sense of what they're up to (or even that they exist) when not on screen. I understand the appeal of a complicated/conspiratorial plot (okay, I don't personally understand the appeal, but I understand that there is one), and I understand the temptation to load this thing with as many real life characters as possible, but I can't help thinking the show would be about a million times better if they cut the cast by at least half and gave everyone who remained room to breathe. As it is, characters show up for five minutes of advancing the plot, then they disappear for several episodes in a row. Without any good, deep character work the show often feels like a beautifully shot waste of really fantastic actors. Chalky White, Capone, and Rothstein are endlessly intriguing characters, for example, and Williams, Graham, and Stuhlbarg turn in wonderfully entertaining performances every time they're asked to, but three seasons in and I can't imagine any of the three characters doing a single thing when not on screen other than sitting at home and twiddling their thumbs while waiting for the next time the narrative requires them to deliver a couple of lines.

[DMC]

Flashback. Episode before last season's finale.

I probably missed it. I knew she was freaky and knew she had sexual fantasies about her son but didn't see the fucking episode. It's good he got whacked then, that motherfucker.

[CuckingFunt]

I probably missed it. I knew she was freaky and knew she had sexual fantasies about her son but didn't see the fucking episode. It's good he got whacked then, that motherfucker.

In Jimmy's defense, I don't think it's something he enjoyed or was happy about.

That said, probably doesn't say much about your strength as a gangster if you can't even avoid getting fucked by your own mother.

[Reck]

In Jimmy's defense, I don't think it's something he enjoyed or was happy about.

That said, probably doesn't say much about your strength as a gangster if you can't even avoid getting fucked by your own mother.

What does having sex with your mother have to do with being a strong gangster or not? Two different matter entirely.

[CuckingFunt]

What does having sex with your mother have to do with being a strong gangster or not? Two different matter entirely.

Well, I mostly meant it as a joke. But in general, I would think an inability to resist your own mother's sexual advances might be an indication of being a bit of a pushover. Which would track with the ways he repeatedly allowed himself to be manipulated by both Nucky and the Commodore. He frequently showed that he was perceptive enough to figure out what was going on and that he had the smarts to figure out the best course of action, and would occasionally act decisively in a fit of rage, yet he ended up getting killed because he was a pawn in an attempted coup to which he had no real attachment/commitment.

[DMC]

In Jimmy's defense, I don't think it's something he enjoyed or was happy about.

That said, probably doesn't say much about your strength as a gangster if you can't even avoid getting fucked by your own mother. Even the hardest criminals have their weaknesses. His was his mom. Jimmy was a pussy though and not a good actor anyhow. Al Capone, that's an actor. That dude can say more with his eyes than all his lines put together. Reminds me just a tad bit of Gandofini with how he can convey his mood and intent with just a stare.

[leemajors]

Even the hardest criminals have their weaknesses. His was his mom. Jimmy was a pussy though and not a good actor anyhow. Al Capone, that's an actor. That dude can say more with his eyes than all his lines put together. Reminds me just a tad bit of Gandofini with how he can convey his mood and intent with just a stare.

Check out This is England. Dude makes Norton in American History X look tame.

[leemajors]

dupe

[Reck]

Am I the only one who thinks Nucky's go to guy is about to bit the dust?

Good episode indeed.

You know this show is badly written when you see shit like this coming weeks prior to it happening.

[Trill Clinton]

You know this show is badly written when you see shit like this coming weeks prior to it happening.

the show isn't badly written.

it was only a matter of time before sleater got killed off.

his character is highly expendable, jimmy had the same job and nucky killed him hisself.

the only character on this show who is safe is nucky.

[leemajors]

the show isn't badly written.

it was only a matter of time before sleater got killed off.

his character is highly expendable, jimmy had the same job and nucky killed him hisself.

the only character on this show who is safe is nucky.
And luciano, rothstein, lanksy and massera (sp)

[Trill Clinton]

And luciano, rothstein, lanksy and massera (sp)

well yea them too.

throw in capone as well.

[DMC]

the show isn't badly written.

it was only a matter of time before sleater got killed off.

his character is highly expendable, jimmy had the same job and nucky killed him hisself.

the only character on this show who is safe is nucky.

We know Capone isn't going to die soon. There's history there. You can look these guys up and see their fates.

[DesignatedT]

I liked how this season started off but this season seems to be getting worse and predictable by the episode IMO. The whole Washington storyline is pretty confusing as well.

[Trill Clinton]

We know Capone isn't going to die soon. There's history there. You can look these guys up and see their fates.

yea that's why i didn't include them.

lansky is my fav.

[ChumpDumper]

And luciano, rothstein, lanksy and massera (sp)Maybe not Rothstein, depending on whether they accelerate the timeline..

[mrsmaalox]

SPOILER alert for JudynTX

WOW last night was great! I'm still contemplating it and will rewatch it later today, but i have a few comments/questions so far.....What's with Kessler's mumbling? He must know something, something really good! I liked seeing Nucky being forced to go to Chalky after dissing him last week, Nucky will owe him big time for his loyalty. Glad for an episode without Margaret, but they ain't done yet. Are we not going to see any more of Van Alden/Mueller? Nice change that Gyp didn't bash anyone's head in this week. And Harrow....I like where it appears he's headed, I don't care about his love life I want him to kill some people (hopefully Gillian). I've always liked the Eli character and thought he had lots of potential, I hope they continue to develop him, he and Nucky could really regulate some shit. And Capone riding in like the cavalry, damn that was awesome!

It sure took a long time of building up to get here!

[Reck]

Yeah finally Capone is getting in on the action.

I'm tired of seeing that nobody Rosetti act like a big shot knowing he's a cuckhold. Somebody needs to end him already.

Overall, good episode.

[DMC]

Now we're getting somewhere. Frail ass 2nd string Nucky isn't entertaining, but Capone... that's different.

[leemajors]

looking forward to Richard killing, looks like he may just wipe out almost everyone at the cathouse from the preview. Capone took at swing at Chalky in the preview too. Nucky taking out the hit squad was pretty entertaining too.

[leemajors]

Saw on another forum that what Kessler was saying over and over was the poem If by Rudyard Kipling:

http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/if/

[ChumpDumper]

Saw on another forum that what Kessler was saying over and over was the poem If by Rudyard Kipling:

http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/if/Makes sense. Kept hearing kopf.

Wondering how the Harrow commando extraction will affect the gang war.

[DMC]

Makes sense. Kept hearing kopf.

Wondering how the Harrow commando extraction will affect the gang war.

Reminds me of an old post card with a girl and a guy sitting under a tree. He asks "Do you like Kipling?" and she replies "I don't know you naughty boy, I've never kippled".

[JudynTX]

:wow:wow I'm finally caught up! Man oh man, did Nucky escape death a few times or what? :lol

Someone kill Gillian now, please!

I'm still sad Owen got F'd off. :(

[mrsmaalox]

:wow:wow I'm finally caught up! Man oh man, did Nucky escape death a few times or what? :lol

Someone kill Gillian now, please!

I'm still sad Owen got F'd off. :(

I'm hopeful that Richard is getting ready to shut her whore mouth permanently!

Whatever happens, you know this finale is going to be a bloodbath----and some totally unexpected characters are gonna die.

[DesignatedT]

Last episode was awesome. Season finale looks great.

[JudynTX]

I'm hopeful that Richard is getting ready to shut her whore mouth permanently!

:lol Well she whores herself out to Gyp first. She's just nasty. I disliked her as soon as I saw how manipulative she was with Jimmy.


Whatever happens, you know this finale is going to be a bloodbath----and some totally unexpected characters are gonna die.

Those I want to die:

Gyp
Gillian
Margaret

Those I don't want to die:

Eli
Chaulky
Eddie
Nucky
Capone

[DMC]

The series had so many ho-hum episodes that anything with action looks great.

[mrsmaalox]

I just want Gyp and hopefully Gillian dead. I will snap if Richard gets killed, but we already know a good character can't stand in the way of the storyline. I have a bad feeling though, that Eli will buy the farm tonight :(

[Reck]

One of the weakest season finale in HBO history. Of all the retards roaming around this show they only kill an insignificant fag? Yeah this show has reached the end of the road and moved into irrelevancy.

[mrsmaalox]

I thought it was fine. The Sopranos was the greatest tv series ever and it had plenty of up and down seasons. I think this finale was important because it brought us back to Nucky's premier talent----manipulation. That's how he became successful and how he will be successful again. We saw him falter when he went away from that and tried to meet the "can't be half a gangster" challenge. And for the most part that's how those guys operated, they just pulled the strings and surrounded themselves with guys who did the dirty work. That was why Gyp was such a loser, he wasn't a smart manipulator and he was so cowardly he only ever personally killed pretty insignificant people. We saw shades of that in Nucky at the start of this season; coming down from the high of killing Jimmy, he tried to maintain that level of brutality but he just couldn't do it because he's too smart.

More action would have definitely been exciting but I'm happy with how it ended. I'm glad the main players survived, except for Gillian! I would have loved for Gyp to meet his end at the hands of Nucky, or at least been aware that Nucky had defeated him and he was dying for it.
Looking forward to next season :toast

[leemajors]

I thought it was fine. The Sopranos was the greatest tv series ever and it had plenty of up and down seasons. I think this finale was important because it brought us back to Nucky's premier talent----manipulation. That's how he became successful and how he will be successful again. We saw him falter when he went away from that and tried to meet the "can't be half a gangster" challenge. And for the most part that's how those guys operated, they just pulled the strings and surrounded themselves with guys who did the dirty work. That was why Gyp was such a loser, he wasn't a smart manipulator and he was so cowardly he only ever personally killed pretty insignificant people. We saw shades of that in Nucky at the start of this season; coming down from the high of killing Jimmy, he tried to maintain that level of brutality but he just couldn't do it because he's too smart.

More action would have definitely been exciting but I'm happy with how it ended. I'm glad the main players survived, except for Gillian! I would have loved for Gyp to meet his end at the hands of Nucky, or at least been aware that Nucky had defeated him and he was dying for it.
Looking forward to next season :toast

Yeah Nucky backdoored Rothstein like a motherfucker :lol I thought Rothstein had the upper hand but his 99% won't last too long.

Richard destroyed that cathouse like I hoped he would.

[JudynTX]

Gillian's attempt at killing Rosetti, was a big fail. And why did she wake up? We really don't need her character anymore.

Nucky should have just left Margaret go on her merry way.

mrsmaalox..........why did you say it was dumb of her to get an abortion? :lol

[mrsmaalox]

Gillian's attempt at killing Rosetti, was a big fail. And why did she wake up? We really don't need her character anymore.

Nucky should have just left Margaret go on her merry way.

mrsmaalox..........why did you say it was dumb of her to get an abortion? :lol

No I'm glad she had the abortion, I though it was dumb of her not to go home with Nucky when he came for her. She's a downer character for me and instead of taking up valuable story time with her stupid drama, I'd rather see her go the way of Carmella Soprano---laying low, living the good life, asking no questions ;)

[Reck]

No I'm glad she had the abortion, I though it was dumb of her not to go home with Nucky when he came for her. She's a downer character for me and instead of taking up valuable story time with her stupid drama, I'd rather see her go the way of Carmella Soprano---laying low, living the good life, asking no questions ;)

LOL Carmela was just as bad, only more likeable.

She wanted to bang everyone she saw, even the tool father phil.

[Trill Clinton]

dope.fucking.episode:wow

[mrsmaalox]

Eddie survived! It was awesome!! Really strong start to the season imo. I love it when Nucky and Eli can put the sibling rivalry aside and work together; Eli's kid is gonna be a badass in no time. I'm happy to see Chalky getting a more visible role. And Richard---I can't even describe how great he is :lol But I gotta say I'm not looking forward to when Margaret, her drama, and her weiner brats come crawling back....

[CuckingFunt]

But I gotta say I'm not looking forward to when Margaret, her drama, and her weiner brats come crawling back....

If it's any consolation, when I was listening to a TV review podcast they mentioned that she still had not yet shown up by the end of the first five episodes, which were sent to critics as screeners.

[mrsmaalox]

So who's still watching? I gotta say I am really enjoying this season. I love how they are developing Rothstein and finally, Chalkie gets a good storyline! Not feeling Patricia Arquette's character yet, she may be too rough for Nucky.

[DMC]

So who's still watching? I gotta say I am really enjoying this season. I love how they are developing Rothstein and finally, Chalkie gets a good storyline! Not feeling Patricia Arquette's character yet, she may be too rough for Nucky.

I've been keeping up with it. I'm only interested in the black gang and Capone. I couldn't give two shits if Nucky and Enoch died in a grease fire. However, maybe I am a bit morbid by this, but I was hoping someone would put a table leg through that black bitch's face tonight. They overdo her singing by several songs a night. Can't wait for her to get whacked.

[JudynTX]

I gave up on this show.

[ChumpDumper]

So who's still watching? I gotta say I am really enjoying this season. I love how they are developing Rothstein and finally, Chalkie gets a good storyline! Not feeling Patricia Arquette's character yet, she may be too rough for Nucky.Yeah, they are setting up Rothstein's ultimate fate well if they end up projecting that far into the future.

The problem with this series is that pretty much every subplot is more interesting than that of Nucky and his family. Capone's in particular is about to blow up (literally) in Chicago. They could dedicate the entire next season to the Moran/Capone war and never come back to effing New Jersey.

[leemajors]

Yeah, they are setting up Rothstein's ultimate fate well if they end up projecting that far into the future.

The problem with this series is that pretty much every subplot is more interesting than that of Nucky and his family. Capone's in particular is about to blow up (literally) in Chicago. They could dedicate the entire next season to the Moran/Capone war and never come back to effing New Jersey.

:tu

[mrsmaalox]

Yeah, they are setting up Rothstein's ultimate fate well if they end up projecting that far into the future.

The problem with this series is that pretty much every subplot is more interesting than that of Nucky and his family. Capone's in particular is about to blow up (literally) in Chicago. They could dedicate the entire next season to the Moran/Capone war and never come back to effing New Jersey.

I really like Nucky and Eli when they are getting along; I like that while all hell is breaking loose elsewhere, they aren't doing much and still always end up on top. With the exception of the totally worthless Gillian and the new guy subplot, everything else that is going on is pretty good.

[leemajors]

Everything is just taking too long. A sop of Richard destroying another camp of people is coming, I guess. Not that I mind, it's just the show is moving glacially.

[mrsmaalox]

Yes it is moving slow. Glad to see Gillian get hers finally, hopefully we never have to see her again. Not sure about this whole Chalky thing, it's like when Nukky got infatuated with that actress and started doing lame shit. I'm looking forward to what Eli is going to pull in this "meeting", hopefully it'll end up with the death of that smarmy agent. And I'd like lots more Richard and Mueller/Van Alden before this season ends---but every season so far hasn't given me enough of them.

[to21]

Yes it's slow but still a good show.

[ChumpDumper]

Looks like there are going to be multiple bloodbaths. I don't know if they are going to shoehorn in the looming Chicago hit with all the goings on in the East, but it would be cool to introduce Bugs Moran as the new nemesis before next season and see Zod's continuing role out there..

Decent tension buildup to the Chalky/Nucky and Eli/Knox confrontations.

It might be cool to see Gillian in pure survival mode again. It's the only time she's really interesting.

Damn, I want more Lou Gossett somewhere on some show. He was fantastic.

Does anyone have a running body count for Richard? Might need updating.

[mrsmaalox]

Looks like there are going to be multiple bloodbaths. I don't know if they are going to shoehorn in the looming Chicago hit with all the goings on in the East, but it would be cool to introduce Bugs Moran as the new nemesis before next season and see Zod's continuing role out there..

Decent tension buildup to the Chalky/Nucky and Eli/Knox confrontations.

It might be cool to see Gillian in pure survival mode again. It's the only time she's really interesting.

Damn, I want more Lou Gossett somewhere on some show. He was fantastic.

Does anyone have a running body count for Richard? Might need updating.

And what about Mueller/VanAlden? That guy has quietly offed a bunch of low-lifes this season.

[DMC]

Yes it is moving slow. Glad to see Gillian get hers finally, hopefully we never have to see her again. Not sure about this whole Chalky thing, it's like when Nukky got infatuated with that actress and started doing lame shit. I'm looking forward to what Eli is going to pull in this "meeting", hopefully it'll end up with the death of that smarmy agent. And I'd like lots more Richard and Mueller/Van Alden before this season ends---but every season so far hasn't given me enough of them.

I'm with you on this. I want the son fucker gone, tired of seeing her and she jumped the shark already. In fact, I want to see Capone. Don't care for Nucky much, but Chalky is interesting. I want to see the fancy Libyan get his throat cut. I was hoping Chalky would kill the girl because she's damaged goods plus he's got a family and a business to run. I want to see Nucky kill his bastard brother who's ratted him out after trying to kill him once before. Dude needs to die already.

There's no enough killing of annoying people. I new BF was an agent, and I knew it was a setup to get her to confess. That was telegraphed.

[ChumpDumper]

And what about Mueller/VanAlden? That guy has quietly offed a bunch of low-lifes this season.

I would keep a count how many people got killed while Zod cowered in fear or stood with mouth agape too. He's such a weird pussy half the time til something makes him hulk out.

[leemajors]

pretty intense finale. the big fight scene had me at the edge of my seat.

[CuckingFunt]

Good episode, with some great performances as always, but my reasons for watching this show shrunk by one.

Dammit.

[mrsmaalox]

Oh Richard :(

Damn I thought Eli was going to saw that smarmy agents neck!

[mrsmaalox]

Lots of random thoughts coming to me after last night.....Was that Margaret and her weenie kids with Arnold Rothstein?! Damn, Nucky was badass in that meeting with Narcisse. I guess we are stuck with Gillian for the long haul; I can see it as she was Nucky's introduction to the gangster life. Chicago will be epic with Torrio passing the torch to Capone---the best of Van Alden is yet to come. I love Eli. I'm so glad he killed that agent in that great fight----what an intense fight, even better than when Chalky killed that other guy (forgot his name); LOVED Eli's expression seeing Van Alden again at the end. And Richard. Damn he was beautiful in that scene going home :cry I guess you just can't be a cold hearted killing machine and then get to live happily ever after :(

[JudynTX]

So mask man is dead?

[mrsmaalox]

Yup :(

[JudynTX]

And that whore Gillian is still alive?

[mrsmaalox]

Unfortunately.

[JudynTX]

Well that sucks. Maybe her grandson will kill her. :D

[ChumpDumper]

Well this show certainly isn't afraid to kill of popular characters.

I'm sure they liked Narcisse enough to keep him on another season, and Chalky in exile has a lot of promise. Pretty sloppy ignoring virtually all the other east coast mob characters in a season finale, but good episode otherwise.

[Reck]

Unfortunately.

Same fate though kinda.

Prison in the 1920s=death lol


ChumpDumper (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=153) there is a clip on youtube about Richard's kills. 77 I believe.

I'll post the vid tomorrow, err later today when I get on my home pc.

[Reck]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPVDU1AhaQ8

[I. Hustle]

http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/cmzzs_1145522389.gif

[oh crap]

just started watching this along with deadwood.

[mrsmaalox]

Bumping this for the new season...

Anyone still watching?

I thought the premiere was good but slow. I'm having a hard time anticipating how they are going to handle the events we missed in the 6 or 7 years since last season AND tie up so many loose ends with so many main characters still around, in just 8 episodes. Things will have to start moving pretty fast to get it all covered.

[Spur|n|Austin]

I'll watch Sunday nights premiere tonight - let's see if this season keeps me a little more entertained than last.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, the show got Rome'd but it's probably more justified in this case. The other historical mobsters and even totally made up characters like Chalky were more interesting that Nucky.

Skipping over the things like the 29 Atlantic City conference and Rothstien's getting offed in favor of emo Dick Whitma-- er Nucky Thompson flashbacks is stupid. This season is going to become the Lucky Luciano season whether they like it or not. Looks like Vincent Piazza put on a little weight, and whatever hair and makeup did really went a long way to show the character's evolution.

In the end, this is going to be remembered as a well-made mess that didn't trust its original premise to be engaging enough to stick with. Over the course of five seasons, they proved themselves right.

[DesignatedT]

I'm still watchin. Need to refresh though. I thought last season was good IIRC.

[leemajors]

I really like the Nucky flashbacks, but they should've been there way sooner.

[ChumpDumper]

I really like the Nucky flashbacks, but they should've been there way sooner.Yeah, seems like a time killer in the final season.

They just blew through the entire rise of Capone in one 60 second newsreel, including about one second devoted to the Valentine's Day massacre. They're dealing with the fallout of Rothstein's offscreen death. Bugsy Siegal has had zero character development. Ness just shows up out of nowhere. It's a mess.

Now they are locked into playing out the Capone/Ness story and Lucky's killing everyone off in the next couple of episodes, then tie up whatever the hell Gillian, Chalky, Narcisse and Willie are doing, then I presume end prohibition and Nucky's storyline. It's going to feel just as rushed as Rome with all the lil' Nucky flashbacks crammed in there.

[mrsmaalox]

Yup, I love it when Nucky gets pissed off enough to make death threats!!! It's been such a weird, loose season that I kinda hate to get too excited over it though. Damn I hope Van Alden kills his bitch wife before he dies. I'd love to see he and Eli make some BIG contributions that benefit Nucky before they get whacked. And Gillian, enough already---where can this possibly go in a couple of episodes? She's going to expose a sadisitic doctor, so what? Don't waste our time. The flashbacks are weird because we know they will end with Nucky fetching Gillian for the Commodore. But we already know that story so what else could it be? Maybe Nucky and Gillian had something too, maybe he's really Jimmy Darmody's father! Oh and that's what drove Nucky's wife Mabel to the consumption! :D And the teeth on that kid playing young Nucky, is that a joke? :lol Oh, also Chalky and Narcisse will just kill each other, nothing to see there. Shrewd Margaret is going to survive everything a very rich widow.

[ChumpDumper]

Man they are really trying to punch up Nucky's storyline trying to tie it in with others.

"Lucky wants to kill Nucky!"

"Nucky just happened to be at the Masseria hit!"

"Nucky vows revenge!"

"Novelty teeth!"

Huh?

This is going to be damned anticlimactic if they go back to actual history.

[Strange Love]

Yup, I love it when Nucky gets pissed off enough to make death threats!!! It's been such a weird, loose season that I kinda hate to get too excited over it though. Damn I hope Van Alden kills his bitch wife before he dies. I'd love to see he and Eli make some BIG contributions that benefit Nucky before they get whacked. And Gillian, enough already---where can this possibly go in a couple of episodes? She's going to expose a sadisitic doctor, so what? Don't waste our time. The flashbacks are weird because we know they will end with Nucky fetching Gillian for the Commodore. But we already know that story so what else could it be? Maybe Nucky and Gillian had something too, maybe he's really Jimmy Darmody's father! Oh and that's what drove Nucky's wife Mabel to the consumption! :D And the teeth on that kid playing young Nucky, is that a joke? :lol Oh, also Chalky and Narcisse will just kill each other, nothing to see there. Shrewd Margaret is going to survive everything a very rich widow.

Can you spoil it some more, please? Jesus.

[mrsmaalox]

Can you spoil it some more, please? Jesus.

Spoil what? I haven't spoiled anything, all I did was relay how I think some of the issues will/should play out. You can come up with your own too.

[DesignatedT]

I am enjoying the flashbacks as well. Also love the increase in Capone time. The Capone/Eli/Van Alden story line is great.

[Reck]

This show sucks this season. It's all over the place.

[leemajors]

Gonna check it later tonight.

[Reck]

Gonna check it later tonight.

Sure glad I didn't just spoiled some big happenings on the latest ep.

[leemajors]

Sure glad I didn't just spoiled some big happenings on the latest ep.

I'm not one to complain about spoilers I know what I'm getting into here, but thanks. It's either done well or it's not

[mrsmaalox]

Well?! Someone say something about the episode.

I have opinions to share but I don't want to "spoil" anything ;)

[leemajors]

Well?! Someone say something about the episode.

I have opinions to share but I don't want to "spoil" anything ;)

how about blech, that's how it ends for both of them? really?

[lefty]

Kove BE, but stopping watching early in season 2

I dont have the time lol

[mrsmaalox]

how about blech, that's how it ends for both of them? really?

Exactly. Both deserved better, at least to take out a major player with them. Such strong characters in the beginning, a total waste. Glad Jimmy Darmody got taken out when he did or he'd have just faded into obscurity too.

[leemajors]

I never understood how little they used Michael K Williams in general.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't think I was supposed to be laughing throughout the episode, but there it is. I almost wish the whores had killed Nucky too so they could have just ended the series right there.

[Reck]

Kove BE, but stopping watching early in season 2

I dont have the time lol

Too busy blowing shit up and plotting your next target?

[ChumpDumper]

Um, so that's over.

[mrsmaalox]

As weird as this last season has been, I think the finale was okay. Capone scenes were the best.

[Malik Hairston]

That was the worst season I've ever watched among my favorite shows of all-time, tbh..not just final seasons, but seasons altogether..

Absolutely horrendous season, I can't believe how much they rushed everything, absolutely no development whatsoever, too..I guess they just wanted to get it over with, it's a shame..

Overall, Boardwalk was still a good show and worth watching for those that haven't seen it, but it didn't live up to it's potential, all things considered..that's probably always the case when the peripheral characters are more interesting than the primary, though..