Futbol's Top 10

[mabrignani]

Who are your top 10 active Forwards, Mid-Fielders, Defense and Goalkeepers?

Forwards
1. Villa
2. Messi
3. C. Ronaldo
4. Kaka
5. Ibra
6. Etoo
7. Forlan
8. Drogba
9. Higuain
10. Di Natale

Mid-Fielders
1. Pirlo
2. Xavi
3. Iniesta
4. Gerrard
5. De Rossi
6. Sneijder
7. Lampard
8. Essien
9. Xabi Alonso
10. Cambiasso

Defenders
1. Chiellini
2. Puyol
3. Maicon
4. Milito
5. Nesta
6. Lucio
7. Javier Zanetti
8. Ferdinand
9. Terry
10. Dani Alves

Goalkeepers
1. BUFFON

[Libri]

Kaka isn't a forward.

[mabrignani]

Kaka isn't a forward.

tim duncan isnt a forward

[Libri]

tim duncan isnt a forward

Tim Duncan is not just a forward, he is a power forward and Kaka is not just a midfielder, he's an attacking midfielder. That's why many say Kaka is a forward because he has played up top. I think that under Mourinho's formation he will play his natural position as a midfielder, behind two forwards.

[Libri]

^ Now that I think about it more, maybe the NBA game and players have evolved to the point where PF and C are no longer applicable. Maybe they should just be called front court players. The same might be applied to forwards and attacking midfielders. http://planetsmilies.net/confused-smiley-17428.gif (http://planetsmilies.net)

[SAtown]

Forwards
1. Messi
2. Messi
3. Messi
4. Messi
5. Messi
6. Messi
7. Messi
8. Messi
9. Messi
10. Messi

Mid-Messi's
1. Messi
2. Messi
3. Messi
4. Messi
5. Messi
6. Messi
7. Messi
8. Messi
9. Messi
10. Messi

Defenders
1. Messi
2. Messi
3. Messi
4. Messi
5. Messi
6. Messi
7. Javier ZaMessi
8. Messi
9. Messi
10. Messi

Goalkeepers
1. MESSI

I honestly think you'd be able to switch up Messi with Messi, and Messi coming off the bench to provide spark, and you'd still be good.

[it's me]

LOL no Diego Milito..... LOL Di Natale..... LOL Messi at 2 .... LOL Italy

[sefant77]

lol Gerrard lol Lampard lol Terry lol Ferdiand lol Premier league hype

LOL ITALY

No Schweinsteiger is a joke

Btw regarding NT i take Klose Top5 as forward

[mabrignani]

lol Gerrard lol Lampard lol Terry lol Ferdiand lol Premier league hype

LOL ITALY

No Schweinsteiger is a joke

Btw regarding NT i take Klose Top5 as forward

lol shweinsteiger
lol klose
di natale had a better year than messi

[mabrignani]

LOL no Diego Milito..... LOL Di Natale..... LOL Messi at 2 .... LOL Italy

11. diego milito

[ALVAREZ6]

Who are your top 10 active Forwards, Mid-Fielders, Defense and Goalkeepers?

Forwards
1. Villa
2. Messi
3. C. Ronaldo
4. Kaka
5. Ibra
6. Etoo
7. Forlan
8. Drogba
9. Higuain
10. Di Natale

Mid-Fielders
1. Pirlo
2. Xavi
3. Iniesta
4. Gerrard
5. De Rossi
6. Sneijder
7. Lampard
8. Essien
9. Xabi Alonso
10. Cambiasso

Defenders
1. Chiellini
2. Puyol
3. Maicon
4. Milito
5. Nesta
6. Lucio
7. Javier Zanetti
8. Ferdinand
9. Terry
10. Dani Alves

Goalkeepers
1. BUFFON
Where's Rooney?

and LOL at your Pirlo bias

[lefty]

Where the hell is the Rooney stopper?

[mabrignani]

Where's Rooney?

and LOL at your Pirlo bias

haha im not a rooney fan, i think he benefits from the team and not his own individuality
as for pirlo, of course im biased, IMO he is the best midfielder ever and the fact that he is italian only re-emphasizes it haha

[ALVAREZ6]

haha im not a rooney fan, i think he benefits from the team and not his own individuality
as for pirlo, of course im biased, IMO he is the best midfielder ever and the fact that he is italian only re-emphasizes it haha
I can't say he's better than Xavi right now

[diego]

i saw the title and the thread starter and thought the list would be bad, but this bad? has pirlo ever been number 1 at anything? villa the best forward on earth?? the only defenders on the defenders list that actually play defense, are decrepit. the only way you could have made it worse, is if you fit van bommel in there somewhere.

if this list is anywhere near accurate, then I should correct my statement the other day that there are not as many great players today: there are NO great players today. what a sorry list

[mabrignani]

has pirlo ever been number 1 at anything?

http://www.sportsignings.com/images/products/products/ITALY/pirlo7.jpg

number one in the world

[mabrignani]

of course this list is biased, the whole thing was to get people to come up with their own top 10's.

[diego]

ja, good one. you are a dedicated fan. and an obnoxious troll. maybe you know more about futbol than you let on after all... :toast

[TDMVPDPOY]

wheres malouda?

[DAF86]

Forwards
1. Messi
2. Messi
3. Messi
4. Messi
5. Messi
6. Messi
7. Messi
8. Messi
9. Messi
10. Messi

Mid-Messi's
1. Messi
2. Messi
3. Messi
4. Messi
5. Messi
6. Messi
7. Messi
8. Messi
9. Messi
10. Messi

Defenders
1. Messi
2. Messi
3. Messi
4. Messi
5. Messi
6. Messi
7. Javier ZaMessi
8. Messi
9. Messi
10. Messi

Goalkeepers
1. MESSI

I honestly think you'd be able to switch up Messi with Messi, and Messi coming off the bench to provide spark, and you'd still be good.

Messi coming off the bench? GTFO

[DAF86]

I'll try:

Forwards:

1-Messi
2-C.Ronaldo
3-Drogba
4-Forlan
5-Rooney
6-Villa
7-Ibrahimovic
8-Higuain
9-Tevez
10-Eto'o

Miedfielders:

1-Xavi
2-Iniesta
3-Sneijder
4-Gerrard
5-Ozil
6-Fabregas
7-Pirlo
8-Schwensteiger
9-Lampard
10-Essien

Defenders:

1-Pique
2-Lucio
3-Puyol
4-Maicon
5-Samuel
6-Alves
7-Zanetti
8-Ramos
9-Terry
10-A.Cole (to have a left back)

GoalKeeper:

1-Julio Cesar

[sonic21]

Forwards:

1-Messi
2-C.Ronaldo
3-Drogba
4-Villa
5-Forlan
6-Rooney
7-Eto'o
8-Ibra
9-Milito
10-Tevez

Miedfielders:

1-Xavi
2-Iniesta
3-Sneijder
4-Schwensteiger
5-Fabregas
6-Essien
7-Ozil
8-Gerrard
9-Lampard
10-De Rossi

Defenders:

1-Juan
2-Maicon
3-Samuel
4-Zanetti
5-Carvalho
6-Alves
7-Ramos
8-Abidal
9-Terry
10-Evra

[sonic21]

not a fan of Fabregas, DAF?

[MB20]

At least 4 german players should be included in every list:

Ozil
Schweinsteiger
Klose
Lahm

[DAF86]

not a fan of Fabregas, DAF?

Forgot about him, yes, he's definitely a top 10 miedfielder.

Damn, I forgot Tevez too.

[resistanze]

Forwards:

1-Messi
2-Drogba
3-C. Ronaldo
4-Villa
5-Rooney
6-Eto'o
7-Ibrahimovic
8-Higuain
9-Tevez
10-Milito

Midfielders:

1-Xavi
2-Sneijder
3-Iniesta
4-Gerrard
5-Essien
6-Fabregas
7-Kaka
8-Lampard
9-Ozil
10-Gourcuff

Defenders:

1-Puyol
2-Maicon
3-Juan
4-Zanetti
5-Terry
6-Alves
7-Ramos
8-Evra
9-Pique
10-Demichelis

[ALVAREZ6]

Forwards:
1. Messi
2. Cristiano Ronaldo
3. Villa
4. Rooney
5. Drogba
6. Eto'o
7. Forlan
8. Ibra
9. Carlitos Tevez
10. Higuain

[ALVAREZ6]

Forwards:

1-Messi
2-Drogba
3-C. Ronaldo
4-Villa
5-Rooney
6-Eto'o
7-Ibrahimovic
8-Higuain
9-Tevez
10-Milito

Midfielders:

1-Xavi
2-Sneijder
3-Iniesta
4-Gerrard
5-Essien
6-Fabregas
7-Kaka
8-Lampard
9-Ozil
10-Gourcuff

Defenders:

1-Puyol
2-Maicon
3-Juan
4-Zanetti
5-Terry
6-Alves
7-Ramos
8-Evra
9-Pique
10-Demichelis

Oh no not Demichelis...in my opinion he is dreadful.

[resistanze]

Oh no not Demichelis...in my opinion he is dreadful.

He's pretty good and versatile...but I agree I was reaching. I drew a blank and said 'fuck it.' he's got a lot of talent but whenever I see him play he's always doing something stupid.

[ElNono]

I would take Samuel and Lúcio over Demichelis any day.

[ALVAREZ6]

I would take Samuel and Lúcio over Demichelis any day.

I'd take you or myself over Demichelis.


Anyone who watched Argentina this summer knows how bad he is. Slow and stupid. And apparently just as this season is getting underway, Bayern Munich dropped him from the starting lineup and he's voiced he wants to part ways with the club. Good decision for Bayern.

[urunobili]

Forwards:

1-Messi
2-Drogba
3-C. Ronaldo
4-Villa
5-Rooney
6-Eto'o
7-Ibrahimovic
8-Higuain
9-Tevez
10-Milito


lol WC Butthurting leftover leaving the Golden Ball winner out :lol

Forlan is top 10 doesn't matter where but he cuts that filter for sure :)

[resistanze]

lol WC Butthurting leftover leaving the Golden Ball winner out :lol

Forlan is top 10 doesn't matter where but he cuts that filter for sure :)

LOL, you're the biggest butthurt soccer poster in the forum.

I had Forlan like #3 (EDIT: #2) for world player of the year in the other thread, don't you think maybe I forgot to add him like DAF forgot to add Fabregas?

[DAF86]

I'd take you or myself over Demichelis.


Anyone who watched Argentina this summer knows how bad he is. Slow and stupid. And apparently just as this season is getting underway, Bayern Munich dropped him from the starting lineup and he's voiced he wants to part ways with the club. Good decision for Bayern.

+1, Demichelis sucked so bad on this WC, that he even surpassed Heinze on my "players to get rid of the NT" list.

[ALVAREZ6]

+1, Demichelis sucked so bad on this WC, that he even surpassed Heinze on my "players to get rid of the NT" list.

Yeah. That team had no chance with that horrible horrible horrible defense.

Heinze...Demichelis...and that Otamendi Maradona used often...just complete scrubs, all 3 of them horrendous. It was really a shame when Samuel was injured.

I just can't understand it, how I literally have more athletic ability than some Argentinian football players on the national team. There's no doubt in my mind I'm faster than Demichelis. Guarantee. Of course he's better at the game, but you can't go far with a guy at center back as slow and inconsistent as him.

[ALVAREZ6]

LOL, you're the biggest butthurt soccer poster in the forum.

I had Forlan like #3 (EDIT: #2) for world player of the year in the other thread, don't you think maybe I forgot to add him like DAF forgot to add Fabregas?

And adding to the subject, it really is hard to rank soccer players, especially forwards, because they rely heavily on the team they play on. We tend to use statistics to evaluate these guys, and those stats can mislead us. One can score a ton of goals because he's on a great team, one can score tons of goals on a decent team as he gets most of the action up front, or you can have a great forward not scoring as many goals because of the quality of forwards that club has (see: Barcelona, Ibrahimovic).

Higuain scored one more goal than Ronaldo last season, but Ronaldo is clearly better, easily better. And who knows how the story will be at Barcelona this year, we'll likely see something similar with Messi + Villa. I just hope the fuckheads at FIFA are able to recognize this (although they probably won't), because no matter the end results, Messi is still better than everyone.


So when it comes to ranking these guys, it's pretty damn hard, and any top 10 list is likely to not be exactly accurate, as things change constantly in terms of the factors that affect how we rank them.

[DAF86]

The worst part is that our defense didn't suck for lack of players, we could have had a pretty good back 4 with: Zanetti, Burdisso, Samuel and Clemente Rodriguez.

Maradona :bang

[ALVAREZ6]

The worst part is that our defense didn't suck for lack of players, we could have had a pretty good back 4 with: Zanetti, Burdisso, Samuel and Clemente Rodriguez.

Maradona :bang

I agree, that would have made a huge difference. I liked seeing C. Rodriguez out there, he showed heart and effort and actually had an effect on games. The other guys all had effects also, only mostly negative.

[Phenomanul]

I'll take this list to 25 to show how incredibly difficult it is to catalogue/rank the sport's greatest players (without shortchanging someone and causing controversy).

Forwards:

1. L. Messi
2. D. Drogba
3. C. Ronaldo
4. D. Forlan
5. S. Eto'o
6. D. Villa
7. W. Rooney
8. M. Klose
9. G. Higuain
10. Robinho
11. Z. Ibrahimović
12. R. Van Persie
13. F. Malouda
14. Neymar
15. D. Milito
16. L. Suarez
17. C. Tevez
18. F. Torres
19. T. Mueller
20. L. Donovan
21. L. Fabiano
22. S. Aguero
23. D. Berbatov
24. N. Anelka
25. J. Hernández
On the cusp:
(26. A. Gyan)
(27. R. Keane)

Miedfielders:

1. Xavi Hernandez
2. A. Iniesta
3. W. Sneijder
4. Kaka
5. C. Fabregas
6. M. Ozil
7. Ronaldinho
8. S. Gerrard
9. F. Schwensteiger
10. M. Essien
11. F. Lampard
12. Xabi Alonso
13. M. Hamsik
14. F. Ribery
15. A. Pirlo
16. A. Robben
17. Y. Gourcuff
18. D. De Rossi
19. J. Mascherano
20. Keisuke Honda
21. M. Ballack
22. D. Silva
23. Diego
24. A. Guardado
25. G. Gattuso
On the cusp:
(26. G. Dos Santos)

Defenders:

1. Maicon
2. C. Puyol
3. G. Pique
4. N. Vidic
5. Lucio
6. K. Toure
7. D. Alves
8. J. Terry
9. G. Chiellini
10. P. Mertesacker
11. P. Lahm
12. C. Salcido
13. M. Pereira
14. S. Ramos
15. P. Evra
16. Jaun
17. Samuel
18. R. Márquez
19. W. Gallas
20. F. Cannavaro
21. R. Nelsen (impressive New Zealander)
22. A. Cole
23. G. Zambrotta
24. J. Zanetti
25. F. Cannavaro
26. Abidal
On the cusp:
(27. Van Bronckhorst)
(28. C. Rodriguez)
(29. A. Nesta)

GoalKeeper:

1. J. Cesar
2. G. Buffon
3. I. Casillas

[ALVAREZ6]

Crazy to think that Xavi, Iniesta, and Fabregas will likely all play for the same club next year... 3 of the top 5 midfielders according to Phenomanul. Regardless of what their true rankings would be, that will be nuts.

[Phenomanul]

Crazy to think that Xavi, Iniesta, and Fabregas will likely all play for the same club next year... 3 of the top 5 midfielders according to Phenomanul. Regardless of what their true rankings would be, that will be nuts.

2 of the top 5 forwards...
3 of the top 5 midfielders...
3 of the top 10 defenders...

Crazy indeed...

[Brazil]

Forwards:

1-Messi
2-Drogba
3-C. Ronaldo
4-Villa
5-Rooney
6-Eto'o
7-Ibrahimovic
8-Higuain
9-Tevez
10-Milito

Midfielders:

1-Xavi
2-Sneijder
3-Iniesta
4-Gerrard
5-Essien
6-Fabregas
7-Kaka
8-Lampard
9-Ozil
10-Gourcuff

Defenders:

1-Puyol
2-Maicon
3-Juan
4-Zanetti
5-Terry
6-Alves
7-Ramos
8-Evra
9-Pique
10-Demichelis

Gourcuff ?? I'm french and a fan of Bordeaux, Gourcuff is talented but he is no top 10

[sonic21]

^since january he's not even top 50

[Whisky Dog]

To me no matter the list there has to be two #1s who aren't even up for debate - Messi at forward and Xavi at midfielder. To me it's not even close.

Forward:

1) Messi
2) C Ronaldo
3) Drogba
4) Forlan
5) David Villa
6) Eto'o
7) Tevez
8) Ibrahimovic
9) Rooney
10) Robinho

Mid
1) Xavi
2) Andres Iniesta
3) sneidjer
4) Fabregas
5) Schweinsteiger
6) Ozil
7) Essien
8) Kaka
9) Gerrard
10) Ribery

Def

1) Carles Puyol
2) Maicon
3) Lucio
4) Piqué
5) Dani Alves (Dude has really impressed me so far this season)
6) Toure
7) Lahm
8) Mertesaker
9) Zanetti
10) Ramos

[Whisky Dog]

And worst asshole player on the planet at this moment goes to that Ujwhatfuckingever asshole from Atletico Madrid who took out Messi's ankle with a cheap late tackle in stoppage time. Fuck that hillbilly looking guy

[FkLA]

I'll try:

Forwards:

1-Messi
2-C.Ronaldo
3-Drogba
4-Forlan
5-Rooney
6-Villa
7-Ibrahimovic
8-Higuain
9-Tevez
10-Eto'o

Miedfielders:

1-Xavi
2-Iniesta
3-Sneijder
4-Gerrard
5-Ozil
6-Fabregas
7-Pirlo
8-Schwensteiger
9-Lampard
10-Essien

Defenders:

1-Pique
2-Lucio
3-Puyol
4-Maicon
5-Samuel
6-Alves
7-Zanetti
8-Ramos
9-Terry
10-A.Cole (to have a left back)

GoalKeeper:

1-Julio Cesar

This is a really good list, mine would be really similar with some changes in the order. Carlos Salcido is the best LB in the world, Id slide him in at #10 over Cole. Also Iniesta>Xavi and Puyol>Pique.


To me no matter the list there has to be two #1s who aren't even up for debate - Messi at forward and Xavi at midfielder. To me it's not even close.

Disagree about Xavi. He's great and Id have him top 3 at his position but Id take Iniesta over him anyday. Xavi is all creativity and precise passing, very little pace. Iniesta has alittle bit of everything.

[FkLA]

Also where is Robben? When healthy, which is kind of rare I suppose lol, he is a beast.

Forwards:
1.Messi 2.Ronaldo 3.Drogba 4.Forlan 5.Villa 6.Robben 7.Rooney 8.Torres 9.Arshavin 10.Tevez/Ibra

Mids:
1.Iniesta 2.Xavi 3.Kaka 4.Sneijder 5.Gerrard 6.Fabregas 7.Ribery 8.Essien 9.Ozil 10.Lampard

Defenders:
1.Puyol 2.Lucio 3.Vidic 4.Pique 5.Maicon 6.Ramos 7.Alves 8.Terry 9.Lugano 10.Salcido

[TDMVPDPOY]

wheres van robben on the lists?

[sefant77]

I'd take you or myself over Demichelis.


Anyone who watched Argentina this summer knows how bad he is. Slow and stupid. And apparently just as this season is getting underway, Bayern Munich dropped him from the starting lineup and he's voiced he wants to part ways with the club. Good decision for Bayern.

Today his sucking reached even for Demi himself a new level...

He told at the beginning of the season that he deserves/wants respect and that he isnt a bench player. Yes, even for a bench player he is too bad...

And if you watched Bayern games the last years, at least every 2nd game had the typical "Demi screwed up big time" moment...