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DarrinS
09-21-2010, 09:41 AM
http://www.slate.com/id/2267975/?from=rss





At the beginning of the summer, my conservative friend David Frum made a joking remark that stayed with me. The evolution of right-wing abuse of President Barack Obama, he said, was not unlike the evolution of American pornography. It took a long time for the appearance of things like bare breasts and pubic hair to occur, but once those thresholds had been crossed, it didn't take long for the most lurid things to be freely depicted and for the competition for obscenity to become ever more extreme. "Everybody's afraid now of being outdone from the right," he told me. "So when somebody eventually comes out and calls Obama an 'Afro-Nazi,' it will go mainstream quite fast."

High marks for prescience. For Dinesh D'Souza to label Obama the equivalent of a Kenyan Mau Mau was one thing, but for former Speaker Newt Gingrich to endorse the analysis with such dispatch was quite another. What will they do for an encore?

The "race-card" game, when I was young, was a simple one. It used to be George Wallace and Orval Faubus shouting about "n_____s." As the 1960s advanced, this became less respectable and, with the defection of white Southerners to the Republican Party, more a matter of codes and signals. Nixon's "Southern strategy" was a relatively subtle example; George Bush Sr.'s use of the Willie Horton subliminal ad a rather crude one. I would say that this began to change with Bill Clinton, the first politician to play the card twice.

While running poorly and beset by sex scandals in New Hampshire in 1992, he left the campaign trail and returned to Arkansas to supervise the execution of a mentally disabled black man named Ricky Ray Rector, a prisoner so lobotomized by his own attempted suicide that when the executioners came to his cell, he left part of his "last meal" behind "for later." Try imagining what would have been said about a Southern Republican governor who did the same thing during a tight election. But then, try imagining a Southern Republican president, impeached for perjury and obstruction, rejoicing in the defense that he was America's first black chief executive.

The man who did actually become the first black president has been unusually forbearing when it comes to the race card, and he was originally very fortunate in those who played it against him. As Obama asks in his memoirs, who would have predicted that the Republicans in Illinois would have run a black man against him in the Illinois Senate race—an out-and-out extremist named Alan Keyes, who denounced him for not being the descendant of slaves and therefore not "truly" black! When the terrain shifted, and it was a question of Obama's being too much of an African-American, or in some critiques too likely to be a Muslim, it was originally from Hillary Clinton's camp that most of the innuendoes came. ("Not as far as I know," was her tooth-gritted reply to the question about whether her rival was a Muslim.) Long before Glenn Beck had accused the president of being motivated by hatred for white people, the Hillary camp had been circulating the rumor that Michelle Obama was on tape with a speech denouncing "whitey." It's true that Rahm Emanuel later vetoed the appointment of her chief propagandist Sidney Blumenthal to a job at the State Department, but by that time Obama had rewarded one of his chief taunters with the job of secretary of state.

The vagaries of the race card have, if anything, only increased since then. A huge number of liberals have already decided that in some way Muslims constitute a race of their own, or at any rate that criticism of their religion can be construed as "racist." (The fact that the Quran contains many racist observations about Jews will mean that this card can and will be used to turn an almost infinite number of tricks. Still, I predict that liberals will regret handing Muslims such a handy alibi for any criticism of their faith.) And if there is anywhere in particular where Obama could have learned the dangers of the same card, it could well be—as described in David Remnick's biography—from his father's bitter experience of Luo-Kikuyu tribal fratricide in Kenya, which led to the murder of the country's most promising politician, Tom Mboya, at the dawn of independence. Aside from a minor and avoidable gaffe on the occasion when Professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. was clumsily arrested at his own front door in Cambridge, Mass., Obama has done little or nothing to raise the racial temperature and has endured a pelting of vulgar defamation with remarkable patience.

It would be or ought to be dangerous if we ever get to the point where the charge of racism becomes so overused and hackneyed as to be meaningless. Such a term ought to retain its potency as a weapon of shame and disapproval. Yet there are times, I must confess, that I almost wouldn't miss it. Last week in Washington, D.C., we saw the culmination of a long and dire campaign to sabotage the reform of the city's schools. For years now, since the time of the disgraceful Marion Barry, a rumor has been circulated in the black wards of the capital that there is a thing called "The Plan." This sinister scheme involves the deliberate erosion of black neighborhoods and communities in the interests of a white/Hispanic ascendancy. That would make its supposed leader a Korean-American named Michelle Rhee who as the city's chancellor of public schools was willing to close hopeless schools and to fire illiterate and unqualified teachers. Despite the support of the Obama administration, the reform and the reformers have now been voted down. In a succession of articles, the Washington Post's leading black columnist, Colbert I. King, more or less explicitly head-counted Mayor Adrian Fenty's nonblack appointments and encouraged citizens to think with their epidermis. So, in voting for the re-election of a black mayor and for the approved program of a black president, I can be held to have cast a "white" vote and to have played a race card without even knowing it. It is not only on the right that the auction of demagogy is operating, and the bids are headed downward.

clambake
09-21-2010, 10:02 AM
well, at least the right guy started this thread.

DarrinS
09-21-2010, 10:06 AM
well, at least the right guy started this thread.

At least your posts are consistently meaningful.

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 10:11 AM
What stood out to you, Darrin?

clambake
09-21-2010, 10:11 AM
i was congratulating you for finding a race card article.......instead of you, yourself, bringing up race.

its a new angle for you. :tu

DarrinS
09-21-2010, 10:17 AM
What stood out to you, Darrin?


If you read the article, Hitchens doesn't single out liberals' use of the race card. I think the article is fair.

clambake
09-21-2010, 10:21 AM
It would be or ought to be dangerous if we ever get to the point where the charge of racism becomes so overused and hackneyed as to be meaningless. Such a term ought to retain its potency as a weapon of shame and disapproval.

you should take this under consideration, darrin.

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 10:24 AM
I read it. I was just wondering if you did. You say you noticed his evenhandedness. I doubt that's all you noticed.

What else stood out to you?

clambake
09-21-2010, 10:28 AM
I read it. I was just wondering if you did. You say you noticed his evenhandedness. I doubt that's all you noticed.

What else stood out to you?

one thing should be easy for him to answer.

rjv
09-21-2010, 10:39 AM
irony just seems to go over some people's heads.

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 10:41 AM
That's just the sort of question Darrin prefers to dodge. I'd be expecting either no answer at all or a question in response.

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 10:46 AM
irony just seems to go over some people's heads.Darrin's total lack of self-awareness is one of the minor miracles of this board. He treats us to a chuckle on pretty much a daily basis.

rjv
09-21-2010, 10:50 AM
Darrin's total lack of self-awareness is one of the minor miracles of this board. He treats us to a chuckle on pretty much a daily basis.

that he does.

DarrinS
09-21-2010, 10:52 AM
Darrin's total lack of self-awareness is one of the minor miracles of this board. He treats us to a chuckle on pretty much a daily basis.

Your ilk always wants to make the thread about the person who started it, instead of the content of the thread.

Oh well.

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 10:53 AM
Which comment? You didn't say.

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 10:55 AM
I'll discuss anything you want to Darrin. Start anywhere.

DarrinS
09-21-2010, 10:56 AM
It would be or ought to be dangerous if we ever get to the point where the charge of racism becomes so overused and hackneyed as to be meaningless. Such a term ought to retain its potency as a weapon of shame and disapproval.



you should take this under consideration, darrin.


That's entirely my point of bringing up these issues. I never call libs racists, but I point out their overuse of the race card.

Has this very subtle message from the state-contolled media gone unnoticed:

"Tea Party = racists"

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 10:57 AM
(Darrin complains that the content gets short shrift, but he actually prefers the flame war too.)

DarrinS
09-21-2010, 10:57 AM
I'll discuss anything you want to Darrin. Start anywhere.


Do you have any opinion of the article that doesn't include some snarky comment about me?

DarrinS
09-21-2010, 11:01 AM
A huge number of liberals have already decided that in some way Muslims constitute a race of their own, or at any rate that criticism of their religion can be construed as "racist." (The fact that the Quran contains many racist observations about Jews will mean that this card can and will be used to turn an almost infinite number of tricks. Still, I predict that liberals will regret handing Muslims such a handy alibi for any criticism of their faith.)




:clap

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 11:05 AM
That's entirely my point of bringing up these issues. I never call libs racists, but I point out their overuse of the race card.You overuse it too. Your lack of self-awareness is showing again.


Has this very subtle message from the state-contolled media gone unnoticed: "Tea Party = racists". What a relief. Since the media is state-controlled, all we need to is elect Republicans to correct its current biases.

Spurminator
09-21-2010, 11:08 AM
:clap

:lmao

I knew you'd love that one.

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 11:09 AM
A huge number of liberals have already decided that in some way Muslims constitute a race of their ownExamples?

You shouldn't thump such a weak chest -- it might cave in.

Islamophobia belongs in the class of religious bigotry, not racism. Hitchens's conceit that liberals conflate it with racism is dubious bordering on braindead.

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 11:18 AM
OTOH, there's very little doubt that Islamophobia becomes generalized as a suspicion of people with"middle eastern" looks and names. Islamophobia makes the connection with racism all on its own, without any help at all from unkind liberals and leftists.

DarrinS
09-21-2010, 11:20 AM
Examples?

You shouldn't thump such a weak chest -- it might cave in.




You can't control yourself, can you?

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 11:21 AM
You can't give a example of what you just highlighted, can you?

clambake
09-21-2010, 11:21 AM
Islamophobia belongs in the class of religious bigotry, not racism. Hitchens's conceit that liberals conflate it with racism is dubious bordering on braindead.

i doubt he expects to be called out directly for that claim.

he loves to pick a fight just to fight. i find his unabashed arrogance amusing.

DarrinS
09-21-2010, 11:25 AM
i doubt he expects to be called out directly for that claim.

he loves to pick a fight just to fight. i find his unabashed arrogance amusing.


FYI... Christopher Hitchens is an athiest.

clambake
09-21-2010, 11:30 AM
FYI... Christopher Hitchens is an athiest.

and.....?

rjv
09-21-2010, 11:51 AM
A huge number of 'conservatives' have already decided that in some way democrats such as clinton, obama and emanuel constitute being liberal

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 11:52 AM
FYI... Christopher Hitchens is an athiest.An atheist spoiling to debate true believers. Who ever heard of such a thing?

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 11:57 AM
(Maybe, just maybe, he felt the need to wash out the distinctively bitter taste of Iraq War "success" for lions of liberal intervention like himself. )

boutons_deux
09-21-2010, 12:12 PM
"charge of racism becomes so overused and hackneyed as to be meaningless"

As long as policies, attitudes, politics, employment, schooling, iow, life, has a race-influenced aspect, the charge of racism will not be meaningless.

Playing the race card is nearly always nothing but Calling A Spade A Spade.

So what if Hitchens is famous atheist? He's also dying of cancer. Excuse me while I play the atheist cancer card. :)

doobs
09-21-2010, 12:13 PM
"charge of racism becomes so overused and hackneyed as to be meaningless"

As long as policies, attitudes, politics, employment, schooling, iow, life, has a race-influenced aspect, the charge of racism will not be meaningless.

Playing the race card is nearly always nothing but Calling A Spade A Spade.

That's racist!!!!!1

DarrinS
09-21-2010, 12:24 PM
A huge number of 'conservatives' have already decided that in some way democrats such as clinton, obama and emanuel constitute being liberal


Bill Clinton pretty much governed from the middle.

There is no question that Obama is, at least ideologically, a far-left liberal.

rjv
09-21-2010, 12:27 PM
Bill Clinton pretty much governed from the middle.

There is no question that Obama is, at least ideologically, a far-left liberal.

really? how so ?

ElNono
09-21-2010, 12:30 PM
really? how so ?

Obviously, forcing people to purchase health insurance from private corporations is the epitome of left-wing politics. :rolleyes

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 12:31 PM
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/tomtoles/2010/09/13/c_09142010.gif

rjv
09-21-2010, 12:32 PM
Obviously, forcing people to purchase health insurance from private corporations is the epitome of left-wing politics. :rolleyes


yes and making deals with big pharma and the banks.

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 12:37 PM
Calling Obama a fascist would be at least colorable (http://www.lectlaw.com/def/c252.htm), but Darrin probably thinks the left wing owns fascism. He's argued as much in these pages before.

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 12:57 PM
That's racist!!!!!1Maybe, maybe not.

http://www.yaelf.com/aueFAQ/miftocllspdspd.shtml

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 12:58 PM
"Spade" in the sense of "Negro" is not recorded until 1928. (It comes from the colour of the playing card symbol, via the phrase "black as the ace of spades".)

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 01:04 PM
@doobs:

You were awful quick on the draw with the accusation of racism. Chip on your shoulder? :lol

doobs
09-21-2010, 01:05 PM
Maybe, maybe not.

http://www.yaelf.com/aueFAQ/miftocllspdspd.shtml

It was a joke. I sarcastically played the race card against b_d, capitalizing off of his suggestion that the race card is almost always appropriate.

I'm actually unsure of whether his use of that phrase was deliberate though.

doobs
09-21-2010, 01:07 PM
When someone uses a string of exclamation points with a "1" at the end, that's a clue that they're being sarcastic.

I seem to recall that there's a special font for sarcasm here, but it's been awhile since I've been a regular at ST.

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 01:09 PM
I wasn't familiar with the usage. This might be the very first time I've seen it.

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 01:12 PM
It was a joke. I sarcastically played the race card against b_d, capitalizing off of his suggestion that the race card is almost always appropriate.He shares that with DarrinS, so yeah, I can see that.

doobs
09-21-2010, 01:14 PM
I think it's an internets lolcats type thing. Clearly I'm not cool enough to pull it off.

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/3351/ohnoes1.jpg

http://sparxmind.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/funny-pictures-it-would-be-best-if-you-closed-the-airlock.jpg

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 01:23 PM
Another chink in my cultural programming, ruthlessly exposed on SpursTalk. :toast

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 01:31 PM
Anyway, back on topic, Hitchen's anti-Islamism is merely a symptom of his more general anti-religiosity, and a fig leaf for his totally unprincipled support of the Iraq War.

doobs
09-21-2010, 01:34 PM
If it makes you feel any better, I'm probably doing it incorrectly. My usage of internet lingo is like Al Gore doing the Macarena.

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 01:38 PM
I'm no judge myself. Your disclosure is safe with me.

rjv
09-21-2010, 01:39 PM
Anyway, back on topic, Hitchen's anti-Islamism is merely a symptom of his more general anti-religiosity, and a fig leaf for his totally unprincipled support of the Iraq War.

yes, and in the process he seems to be creating a totem pole of religious zealots (with muslems at the top) based on a cultural bias against the arab world. and hitchens always seems to take the worst examples of what he argues against in order to make his arguments stronger. in most cases he takes the extreme factions of faith and in this article's case he argues against individuals he claims to be 'liberal' who are anything but that.

Spurminator
09-21-2010, 01:42 PM
Nuance:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6b/God_is_not_great.JPG

TeyshaBlue
09-21-2010, 01:53 PM
Another chink in my cultural programming, ruthlessly exposed on SpursTalk. :toast

I'll never take you seriously again.

/Blue :lol

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 01:58 PM
Nor should you.

TeyshaBlue
09-21-2010, 02:06 PM
Nor should you.

:lol

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 02:12 PM
Randum interetz jackassez canot bee trvsted.

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 02:19 PM
We're just in it for the lolz.

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 02:44 PM
yes, and in the process he seems to be creating a totem pole of religious zealots (with muslems at the top) based on a cultural bias against the arab world. and hitchens always seems to take the worst examples of what he argues against in order to make his arguments stronger.Hitchens spent too much time in bars. He may have developed a bad habit or two.

LnGrrrR
09-21-2010, 03:08 PM
well, at least the right guy started this thread.

:lmao

The exact first thing I thought.

MannyIsGod
09-21-2010, 03:27 PM
I have mixed feelings on Christopher Hitchens. One one hand, he's a very smart man and I will never accuse him of under thinking an issue. On the other hand, he has such a hatred for all religions that the way he views Islam is framed by this very world view.

I do think Christopher Hitchens - to quote Barkley - must be rolling over in his grave to have someone like DarrinS using his articles to supposedly make a point.

MannyIsGod
09-21-2010, 03:27 PM
:lmao

The exact first thing I thought.

Indeed.

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 03:28 PM
Chris Hitchens isn't dead yet, bro.

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 03:29 PM
lol

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 03:29 PM
I've done that.

MannyIsGod
09-21-2010, 03:31 PM
You missed my joke, WH. There is a reason why I said to quote Barkley. :p

ElNono
09-21-2010, 03:32 PM
It was a joke. I sarcastically played the race card against b_d, capitalizing off of his suggestion that the race card is almost always appropriate.

I'm actually unsure of whether his use of that phrase was deliberate though.

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj275/bonebeef/Race_Card1.jpg

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 03:34 PM
@Manny:

Too oblique for me. Maybe I was out of turn.

MannyIsGod
09-21-2010, 03:38 PM
@Manny:

Too oblique for me. Maybe I was out of turn.

On inside the NBA Charles Barkley once said someone had rolled over in their grave while they were still alive. I can't remember who the original was, but of course they gave him shit but he says it on a regular basis no with no regard to the heartbeat or lack there of of his subject. Its a running joke.

Being an NBA board - political forum or not - I think most will get the joke.

Spurminator
09-21-2010, 03:39 PM
I think it was Larry Bird. IIRC, he was talking about the then-awful Celtics and said Larry Bird must be rolling around in his grave.

LnGrrrR
09-21-2010, 03:54 PM
A huge number of liberals have already decided that in some way Muslims constitute a race of their own, or at any rate that criticism of their religion can be construed as "racist." (The fact that the Quran contains many racist observations about Jews will mean that this card can and will be used to turn an almost infinite number of tricks. Still, I predict that liberals will regret handing Muslims such a handy alibi for any criticism of their faith.)

A strawman. I have never said that any criticism of Islam is "racist", and I doubt many other commentators have. Could the author point out where someone has said that any criticism of Islam is inherently racist?

The author conflates "support for the mosque/freedom of religion" with "support for all things Islam", which is silly.

LnGrrrR
09-21-2010, 03:58 PM
If it makes you feel any better, I'm probably doing it incorrectly. My usage of internet lingo is like Al Gore doing the Macarena.

For all you old folks, the !!!11!! thing is from online gaming, where players must usually type while in the middle of battle; hence the punctuation errors. It's usually used along with "leetspeak", ie. OMG JOO n00bz I pwned u!!!11!

TeyshaBlue
09-21-2010, 04:00 PM
For all you old folks, the !!!11!! thing is from online gaming, where players must usually type while in the middle of battle; hence the punctuation errors. It's usually used along with "leetspeak", ie. OMG JOO n00bz I pwned u!!!11!

that's l33t speak, you noob!:bang

TeyshaBlue
09-21-2010, 04:01 PM
We won't talk about the fucking senior discount I got at Chicken Express this weekend, either!:depressed

LnGrrrR
09-21-2010, 04:02 PM
I'd like to note here that being an atheist doesn't automatically make you sensible and rational, contrary to popular belief. We're not all robots. :lol

LnGrrrR
09-21-2010, 04:03 PM
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj275/bonebeef/Race_Card1.jpg

I've seen a few of these hilarious MTG cards out there... is there a website that collects them? This is pretty damn funny.

LnGrrrR
09-21-2010, 04:03 PM
that's l33t speak, you noob!:bang

STFU l4m3rz i wuz splainin 2 j00 0ldazzzzz g33z35z

MannyIsGod
09-21-2010, 04:06 PM
I'd like to note here that being an atheist doesn't automatically make you sensible and rational, contrary to popular belief. We're not all robots. :lol

Yeah Darrin tried to play that as though the clouds would part and the angels would sign and illuminate the great atheist thinker.

BUT HE'S AN ATHIEST!

ElNono
09-21-2010, 04:09 PM
I've seen a few of these hilarious MTG cards out there... is there a website that collects them? This is pretty damn funny.

No idea, I just googled because I figured there was one out there... :lol

DarrinS
09-21-2010, 04:12 PM
Yeah Darrin tried to play that as though the clouds would part and the angels would sign and illuminate the great atheist thinker.

BUT HE'S AN ATHIEST!


Well, Daniel Pearl's father is against the GZM, but since his son was beheaded in Karachi, he can hardly be objective, right?

DarrinS
09-21-2010, 04:12 PM
K.O. is like watching performance art.

QZpT2Muxoo0

clambake
09-21-2010, 04:14 PM
breaks out the utube!

Spurminator
09-21-2010, 04:14 PM
Well, Daniel Pearl's father is against the GZM, but since his son was beheaded in Karachi, he can hardly be objective, right?

A.) Probably not.
B.) How is this relevant to the conversation?

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 04:14 PM
Being an NBA board - political forum or not - I think most will get the joke.You just said Barkley. I thought you meant Bishop Berkeley. :lol

Spurminator
09-21-2010, 04:15 PM
:lol

Now it's a mosque thread again.

Great.

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 04:18 PM
johnny one note strikes again.

MannyIsGod
09-21-2010, 04:18 PM
Well, Daniel Pearl's father is against the GZM, but since his son was beheaded in Karachi, he can hardly be objective, right?

and somehow an atheist automatically is?

Darrinbot needs more work man. The programmer is slipping. Should just make the code open source so we can all partake in the fun.

MannyIsGod
09-21-2010, 04:19 PM
Youtube and the Race Card with a side of Islamophobia.

Pretty much a DarrinS classic.

DarrinS
09-21-2010, 04:19 PM
breaks out the utube!

Lnggrr asked for an example. Keith compares GZM opposition to events that led to the Holocaust.

DarrinS
09-21-2010, 04:22 PM
and somehow an atheist automatically is?

Darrinbot needs more work man. The programmer is slipping. Should just make the code open source so we can all partake in the fun.


More lame insults. I'm not surprised at the weak shit you guys bring to the table.

DarrinS
09-21-2010, 04:22 PM
johnny one note strikes again.

<burp>


^You should stick to those, WH.

Winehole23
09-21-2010, 04:22 PM
Keith compares GZM opposition to events that led to the Holocaust.The infamously overcooked kristallacht meme.

Didn't really take, did it?

LnGrrrR
09-21-2010, 04:24 PM
Lnggrr asked for an example. Keith compares GZM opposition to events that led to the Holocaust.

But KO is talking about opposition to the mosque. He's not saying that ALL criticism of Islam is unfounded/racist, is he?

rjv
09-21-2010, 04:24 PM
You just said Barkley. I thought you meant Bishop Berkeley. :lol

me too..perhaps some idealism humor that went over my head.

MannyIsGod
09-21-2010, 04:24 PM
More lame insults. I'm not surprised at the weak shit you guys bring to the table.

Darrin, the day you type more than 2 sentences in a post and actually have a point then you'll get something other than insults.

Until then, youtube on Darrinbot!

DarrinS
09-21-2010, 04:27 PM
Darrin, the day you type more than 2 sentences in a post and actually have a point then you'll get something other than insults.

Until then, youtube on Darrinbot!

LOL @ your two sentences.

You can always choose not post in one of my threads, right?

clambake
09-21-2010, 04:28 PM
you don't even post in one of your threads.

the first page has reply worthy comments. instead, you ran away.

DarrinS
09-21-2010, 04:30 PM
But KO is talking about opposition to the mosque. He's not saying that ALL criticism of Islam is unfounded/racist, is he?


I see your point.

However, there must be thousands of articles online about "racial profiling" as it relates to airport security measures and Muslim passengers.

DarrinS
09-21-2010, 04:31 PM
you don't even post in one of your threads.


Very solid argument. Thanks for participating.

DarrinS
09-21-2010, 04:33 PM
you don't even post in one of your threads.

the first page has reply worthy comments. instead, you ran away.



well, at least the right guy started this thread.


:lol

clambake
09-21-2010, 04:34 PM
:lol

still running, huh?

LnGrrrR
09-21-2010, 04:35 PM
I see your point.

However, there must be thousands of articles online about "racial profiling" as it relates to airport security measures and Muslim passengers.

Not following how you're relating the two.

ElNono
09-21-2010, 04:40 PM
Not following how you're relating the two.

You need a YouTube? :lol

clambake
09-21-2010, 04:41 PM
I read it. I was just wondering if you did. You say you noticed his evenhandedness. I doubt that's all you noticed.

What else stood out to you?


one thing should be easy for him to answer.


irony just seems to go over some people's heads.


That's just the sort of question Darrin prefers to dodge. I'd be expecting either no answer at all or a question in response.


Darrin's total lack of self-awareness is one of the minor miracles of this board. He treats us to a chuckle on pretty much a daily basis.


that he does.


Your ilk always wants to make the thread about the person who started it, instead of the content of the thread.

Oh well.


Which comment? You didn't say.


That's entirely my point of bringing up these issues. I never call libs racists, but I point out their overuse of the race card.

Has this very subtle message from the state-contolled media gone unnoticed:

"Tea Party = racists"
you create these issues and pretend to submit them with objectivity. you're not fooling anyone.


(Darrin complains that the content gets short shrift, but he actually prefers the flame war too.)

MannyIsGod
09-21-2010, 05:21 PM
LOL @ your two sentences.

You can always choose not post in one of my threads, right?

I obviously derive entertainment from your stupidity, Darrin. I just think its funny you try to run to the "you don't want serious conversation" card almost as often as you run to the race card.

Who do you honestly feel you're fooling?

ChumpDumper
09-21-2010, 05:51 PM
Well, Daniel Pearl's father is against the GZM, but since his son was beheaded in Karachi, he can hardly be objective, right?Ted Olson is for the construction of the mosque.

redzero
09-21-2010, 06:37 PM
Christopher Hitchens is the man.

Winehole23
09-22-2010, 01:02 AM
<burp>


^You should stick to those, WH.You only wish. See you tomorrow. :lol

Winehole23
09-22-2010, 03:09 AM
me too..perhaps some idealism humor that went over my head.
Ding! Fries are done! Overdone! :lol