NBA2k11 Ranks some of the Spurs

[Cane]

Just a few of the Spurs players rankings are available from the best NBA video game series around and Duncan currently has the best overall ranking out of any PF or C although not by a significant amount. Basically another ranking thread but it looks like the Spurs will be a decent team to play in 2k11 although overall ratings only mean so much :hat



SPURS
90 - Tim Duncan (PF)
87 - Manu Ginobili (SG)
78 - Tony Parker (PG)
76 - George Hill (SG)
74 - Richard Jefferson (SF)
68 - Antonio McDyess (C)

POINT GUARD
95 - Chris Paul
92 - Deron Williams
87 - Rajon Rondo
85 – Derrick Rose
85 - Steve Nash
83 - Jason Kidd
83 - Chauncey Billups
83 - Gilbert Arenas
81 - John Wall
81 - Russell Westbrook
80 – Stephen Curry
80 - Aaron Brooks
80 - Darren Collison
79 - Baron Davis
78 - Devin Harris
78 - Tony Parker


SHOOTING GUARD
97 – Dwyane Wade
97 - Kobe Bryant
88 – Brandon Roy
88 – Joe Johnson
87 - Manu Ginobili
84 – Monta Ellis
84 – Stephen Jackson
82 - Tyreke Evans
81 - Vince Carter
80 - Kevin Martin
80 – O.J. Mayo
79 - Ray Allen
77 – Richard Hamilton
76 – Evan Turner
76 – Ben Gordon
76 – Jamal Crawford
76 - George Hill

SMALL FORWARD
97 – LeBron James
93 - Carmelo Anthony
91 - Kevin Durant
85 – Andre Iguodala
84 – Gerald Wallace
83 - Paul Pierce
83 - Danny Granger
81 – Rudy Gay
81 - Caron Butler
79 - Trevor Ariza
79 - Ron Artest
78 - Shawn Marion
78 – Corey Maggette
77 – Luol Deng
76 – Tayshaun Prince
76 - Shane Battier
76 - Rashard Lewis
74 - Richard Jefferson

POWER FORWARD
90 - Tim Duncan
89 - Pau Gasol
87 – Chris Bosh
85 – Carlos Boozer
83 – Josh Smith
83 – David Lee
83 - Dirk Nowitzki
80 – Zach Randolph
80 - Kevin Garnett
79 - Lamar Odom
78 – Antawn Jamison
78 - Luis Scola

CENTER
88 - Dwight Howard
86 – Amare Stoudemire
83 - Yao Ming
82 - Andrew Bogut
81 - Brook Lopez
80 - Al Jefferson
78 – Al Horford
78 - Chris Kaman
78 – Marcus Camby
77 - Andrew Bynum
77 – Marc Gasol
77 - Emeka Okafor
77 - Shaquille O'Neal
75 – Greg Oden
75 - Nene
74 – Ben Wallace
74 - Andrea Bargnani
73 – Joakim Noah
72 - Kendrick Perkins
71 – Zydrunas Ilgauskas
71 - Roy Hibbert
71 - Brendan Haywood
70 - Samuel Dalembert
69 – Andris Biedrins
68 – Anderson Varejao
68 - Antonio McDyess

http://thereal2kinsider.blogspot.com/2010/09/nba-2k11-player-ratings-updated.html

[JR3]

Seems fair. Parker should be ranked higher though... he didn't have a great season last season though. The game updates rankings as the season progresses though I believe.

[Spursfan092120]

The idea that all of those guys, including a rookie, are ranked higher than Parker is ridiculous. That is all..

[IronMexican]

grey spurfan still wouldn't trade Parker for Paul.

[DesignatedT]

Seems about right for Tim and Manu. Tony is at least an 80 though.

[Spursfan092120]

grey spurfan still wouldn't trade Parker for Paul.
this Spurs fan would trade Parker for Paul in a second...but not Darren Collison..

[Cane]

Parker does have a low overall rating but there's not that many points separating the PG pack anyway. He had a pretty horrible season too.


grey spurfan still wouldn't trade Parker for Paul.

Maybe a grey Frenchman however give me Deron Williams instead since CP3's injury could've fucked his career over.:depressed

[iminol]

lol at dirk with 83

[ohmwrecker]

grey spurfan still wouldn't trade Parker for Paul.

Neither would the Hornets . . .

[ohmwrecker]

The Spurs have a PG controversy on 2K11.

[TD 21]

Parker is way too low. Granted, it's difficult to accurately rate him in a video game, unless you drastically overrate him in myriad categories to boost his overall rating to be amongst the top (not the elite of the elite, a cut below) players in the game. But a guy like Brooks is the same way, yet he's inexplicably rated two points higher than Parker.

The multi-dimensional, freak athletes, such as Iguodala, Wallace, Westbrook, etc., are the types that usually get overrated, but surprisingly that's not the case in this game.

Some ratings that stand out: Nash is underrated (though he, like Parker, is often difficult to rate accurately), Kidd is overrated, Ariza's overrated, Deng, Lewis and Jefferson are underrated, Nowitzki and Garnett are underrated, Nene, Noah, Perkins, McDyess and Varejao are underrated and Wallace is overrated.

[Lukor]

Parker is way too low. Granted, it's difficult to accurately rate him in a video game, unless you drastically overrate him in myriad categories to boost his overall rating to be amongst the top (not the elite of the elite, a cut below) players in the game. But a guy like Brooks is the same way, yet he's inexplicably rated two points higher than Parker.

The multi-dimensional, freak athletes, such as Iguodala, Wallace, Westbrook, etc., are the types that usually get overrated, but surprisingly that's not the case in this game.

Some ratings that stand out: Nash is underrated (though he, like Parker, is often difficult to rate accurately), Kidd is overrated, Ariza's overrated, Deng, Lewis and Jefferson are underrated, Nowitzki and Garnett are underrated, Nene, Noah, Perkins, McDyess and Varejao are underrated and Wallace is overrated.

It's a videogame. They will never get it right.

[JustinJDW]

Damn, Tony Parker should be much higher than just a 78. How the hell is Collison, Wall, Brooks and Curry higher than Parker?

And Dirk should be higher too.

[Chieflion]

The reason why Aaron Brooks is rated higher than Parker is because of his way superior 3 point shot. Both players are roughly the same when it comes to physical ability, such as speed and quickness. Although Parker has an edge when it comes to inside scoring. In the end, it is just 2 points and I don't care about ratings in 2k series anymore unless I break it down by individual categories.

Kidd is hella overrated in terms of overall ratings because of his rebounding and passing skills. But he won't be able to score except for spot up 3s. Similar to Rondo, but Rondo is a slasher, rebounder and passer and ball thief, not a spot up shooter and is quicker and faster at this stage of his career which is what got him a 87 rating.

Perimeter players also get a overall rating better than big men in the same level of play in the NBA. Example would be Carmelo Anthony VS Dwight Howard. Why does Melo get a 93 rating against Howard's 88? It is because of the ballhandling skills. In 2k10, ball handling aspects of the game were seperated into 4 different categories, which is why overall ratings of big men are being compromised, seeing as rebounding aspects of the game only consists of 2 seperate ratings.

[TD 21]

I get why Brooks is rated higher than Parker, but it's still inexcusable.

Each individual category is not weighed the same in terms of importance. For example, offensive and defensive awareness count for more than dunking. They've got to balance that so that the Parker types aren't as underrated and certain other types aren't as overrated.

Upon further review, Bryant and Wade are overrated, Durant and Howard are underrated. There shouldn't be a six and nine point gap between the former two and the latter two. Not when they're four of the consensus top five players in the league. Also, James should stand alone as the top ranked player.

[Dex]

Paul is better than Parker, but Parker is still better than a 78. Odd that one bad year would hurt his value in the game so much, whereas two off years for Manu still kept him pretty high in the SG charts.

[Dex]

And Dirk should be higher too.

Definitely. According to this, Manu > Dirk, and as much as I wish that were still the case, I don't think it is anymore. Dirk has been in beast mode for a while now. Manu is probably the more efficient player, but Dirk brings more to the post and on the rebounding, so I'm not sure where they are getting these stats.

[Em-City]

This is 2k11, not 2k9... no way duncan is 90... more like 86

[Em-City]

Definitely. According to this, Manu > Dirk, and as much as I wish that were still the case, I don't think it is anymore. Dirk has been in beast mode for a while now. Manu is probably the more efficient player, but Dirk brings more to the post and on the rebounding, so I'm not sure where they are getting these stats.


It's coz dirk would have terrible defensive attributes. He's still be a beast on O

[Chieflion]

Definitely. According to this, Manu > Dirk, and as much as I wish that were still the case, I don't think it is anymore. Dirk has been in beast mode for a while now. Manu is probably the more efficient player, but Dirk brings more to the post and on the rebounding, so I'm not sure where they are getting these stats.

Compared to other big men, Dirk doesn't rebound the ball very well. He has excellent shooting abilities. Although he is above average compared to big men when it comes to ball handling, the ratings would still not favor him to get a high rating. He is not a physical freak, not superbly athletic. He is also not that good at defense either, making him a 83, which is impressive for a player who is only excellent at a couple of aspects of the game.

He would definitely be more deadly in the game than his ratings suggest.

[Dex]

Compared to other big men, Dirk doesn't rebound the ball very well. He has excellent shooting abilities. Although he is above average compared to big men when it comes to ball handling, the ratings would still not favor him to get a high rating. He is not a physical freak, not superbly athletic. He is also not that good at defense either, making him a 83, which is impressive for a player who is only excellent at a couple of aspects of the game.

He would definitely be more deadly in the game than his ratings suggest.

Agreed to all points, but I would expect him to bring more on the boards than Manu would, as well to both post offense and post defense.

Manu is probably rated as the better outside shooter (although Dirk is probably still rated high, he's cut back on the three in recent years imo), but Dirk has to be rated the better midrange shooter. Finishing inside is a tossup since one is a slasher/dunker and one has some (limited) post game. Dirk probably lost points for his defense, but Manu isn't exactly lockdown anymore either.

Like I said, Manu is probably the more efficient player and gets marks for his assists, but I still don't understand the math that makes him more valuable than Dirk. Then again, that's probably what I get for thinking too hard about a bunch of video game numbers.

[Dex]

I wonder what Jordan is rated? :downspin:

[Chieflion]

Agreed to all points, but I would expect him to bring more on the boards than Manu would, as well to both post offense and post defense.

Manu is probably rated as the better outside shooter (although Dirk is probably still rated high, he's cut back on the three in recent years imo), but Dirk has to be rated the better midrange shooter. Finishing inside is a tossup since one is a slasher/dunker and one has some (limited) post game. Dirk probably lost points for his defense, but Manu isn't exactly lockdown anymore either.

Like I said, Manu is probably the more efficient player and gets marks for his assists, but I still don't understand the math that makes him more valuable than Dirk. Then again, that's probably what I get for thinking too hard about a bunch of video game numbers.

Dribbling skills. Look above for my explanation on the 4 different categories on dribbling and only 2 for rebounding. Not only that, Manu is also an excellent ball thief when 2k rates him. He finishes at one of the top when it comes to steals.

[OrEmuN]

SPURS
90 - Tim Duncan (PF)
87 - Manu Ginobili (SG)
78 - Tony Parker (PG)
76 - George Hill (SG)
74 - Richard Jefferson (SF)
68 - Antonio McDyess (C)

I guess Tiago Splitter's rating is less than 68. Which to me, under-rates the EuroLeague MVP.

[ElNono]

These guys know their shit...

Manu > Tony
Manu > Dirk

:stirpot:

[tim_duncan_fan]

Seems fair. Parker should be ranked higher though... he didn't have a great season last season though. The game updates rankings as the season progresses though I believe.

With the exceptions of maybe Harris and Rose, all those guys can pass better than Parker. Most of them are better shooters. TP is an average defender at best.

The thing that made Parker near-unstoppable during our '07 run was his speed...but that was over 3 years ago and he's clearly not as fast as he was then.

With the homer glasses off, he really isn't much to write home about compared to most of them and John Wall is gonna kick more ass than Brandon Jennings and most people thing he was a more-than-solid rookie.

Parker fits what WE need, but just like the Spurs are hard-pressed to give him a shitload of money, others are too but only more so.

C'mon we can't put Tony up there with all those franchisers.

That said, I wouldn't put Aaron Brooks above him. However, I really don't know much about the guy aside from the fact that he plays for the Rockets.

[stéphane]

Pretty nice ratings. Sounds right for Parker to be at 78. If you factor all the kind of ratings where he's crap dunking, jumping, strenght, 3pts etc etc, it sounds about right. I'm more surprised to see Nash and Kid that high though...

[stéphane]

Oh and Tiago <68, come on 2k... Take a look at players before rating them.

[Barfunk]

I still got my copy of ESPN BASKETBALL aka NBA 2K4 for PS2. Love that game. Tim Duncan was rated 99 on the motherfucker. :wow :ihit

[duhoh]

don't get knotted up by ratings. play with them, and you'll see that it's pretty close to how the players play IRL. parker can slash and score in the paint easily. manu can hit the clutch 3. duncan is better than he is IRL though. his mid-range shot is too easy to make, while he's a beast on the block, and can dunk hard.

those are very, very similar to 2k10's final roster update.

[HarlemHeat37]

These rankings are based on all-around game..

For example, Kidd is going to be rated high, because he's good at a lot of things..2K does have ratings for specific scoring abilities(off the dribble, slashing, w/e), but it's not weighted as much IIRC..so Kidd would get a high rating for his 3-point %, he has a high passing rating, a high rebounding rating, a high rating in offensive and defensive awareness..his all-around game keeps him at that rating..

For Parker, he's probably rated poorly in overall shooting from mid-range and 3-point shooting, especially since they go by the previous year, and Tony had an off-year..so he loses points for that, and he doesn't do anything else at a really high level, obviously outside of scoring inside the paint/quickness..

Duncan is still rated as high due to his all-around game..he's rated ahead of Dwight Howard, because he's obviously a better shooter, post-up player and passer..his all-around game is obviously better, even though Howard's impact right now would surpass Duncan's..

I could be wrong though..I don't play basketball games anymore..I bought 2K10, but I played it 3-4 times..

[jackwallets]

Al jefferson is not a center. and neither is al harrington right?? dont know about these ratings

[siraulo23]

those rankings will change as the season goes along (nba today feature)

so they dont really mean much, spurs teams have always been great at video games

[tuncaboylu]

In NBA2k03 Spurs were 25th in overall teams ranking and they won the championship.

Since then I don't trust to that rankings.

[pookenstein]

What about Durant<Melo?
Must be a bad joke.

[ALVAREZ6]

Definitely. According to this, Manu > Dirk, and as much as I wish that were still the case, I don't think it is anymore. Dirk has been in beast mode for a while now. Manu is probably the more efficient player, but Dirk brings more to the post and on the rebounding, so I'm not sure where they are getting these stats.

Well it's not just stats, they rate the players in a lot of categories, such as defensive awareness, hustle, etc. They do sort of account for a lot of the intangibles in the game and those certainly are areas where Manu gets high ratings.

[ALVAREZ6]

Pretty nice ratings. Sounds right for Parker to be at 78. If you factor all the kind of ratings where he's crap dunking, jumping, strenght, 3pts etc etc, it sounds about right. I'm more surprised to see Nash and Kid that high though...
Yup.

And just because a player has a relatively low overall rating does not mean he's not very effective in the game. There's certain types of players that you can just dominate with and they don't have amazing ratings, for example, Vince Carter. He's not rated too high but with his jumping ability you can really destroy people in that game...same with Iguodala. And if you learn their distinct shot timing, it's even better. I like how the game personalizes most of the leagues known player's shooting form.

[Dave Mustaine]

and as much as I wish that were still the case,


It's never been the case.

[ALVAREZ6]

These guys know their shit...

Manu > Tony


:stirpot:

What's incorrect about this?

Manu is more skillful than Tony.

[stéphane]

What's incorrect about this?

Manu is more skillful than Tony.

Would be pretty foolish to deny who has the better all around game of the two.
Tony has real limited (top rated) capabilities, namely speed, ball handling and scoring at the hoop.

[history2b]

If Tim Duncan is the highest rated PF / C in the game, there is something seriously flawed with the game.

Do the game makers not take reality into account or something? I'm sure video game programming geeks aren't really up to speed with what's actually going on in the NBA today.

Judging by the 2010 playoffs Tim is clearly on his way out and at his advanced age looks likely to decline even further this season. No longer a top 10 player in this league.

[noob cake]

I don't even know our mini mouse become a stud three point shooter.

Lets see if he can increase his 3pt FG% to 0.400 from 0.398 last year, while leading the NBA in 3's.

[J_Paco]

If Tim Duncan is the highest rated PF / C in the game, there is something seriously flawed with the game.

Do the game makers not take reality into account or something? I'm sure video game programming geeks aren't really up to speed with what's actually going on in the NBA today.

Judging by the 2010 playoffs Tim is clearly on his way out and at his advanced age looks likely to decline even further this season. No longer a top 10 player in this league.

Although, I do agree that Timmy doesn't deserve a 90. You'd be a fool to believe there are 10 players currently in the NBA better than he was last season. He'll probably fall further, but these ratings are based on last season.

People worried about Tiago's rating shouldn't be, they've only released the ratings of each teams (supposed) starting 5. Obviously, they're going off of last season with the Spurs and believe that Splitter will come off the bench.

[history2b]

Although, I do agree that Timmy doesn't deserve a 90. You'd be a fool to believe there are 10 players currently in the NBA better than he was last season. He'll probably fall further, but these ratings are based on last season.

People worried about Tiago's rating shouldn't be, they've only released the ratings of each teams (supposed) starting 5. Obviously, they're going off of last season with the Spurs and believe that Splitter will come off the bench.


Piece of cake

1. Kobe
2. Lebron
3. Durant
4. Dwight
5. Wade
6. CP3
7. Deron
8. Gasol
9. Carmelo
10. Bosh

even Dirk, BRoy too

Tim slipped a lot in the last 2 years, particularly on the defensive end.

[J_Paco]

Piece of cake

1. Kobe
2. Lebron
3. Durant
4. Dwight
5. Wade
6. CP3
7. Deron
8. Gasol
9. Carmelo
10. Bosh

even Dirk, BRoy too

Tim slipped a lot in the last 2 years, particularly on the defensive end.

:lol:lol:lol

That list is a joke, right? No way is Kobe #1 or are Melo, Bosh or Gasol better than Duncan.

[history2b]

:lol:lol:lol

That list is a joke, right? No way is Kobe #1 or are Melo, Bosh or Gasol better than Duncan.

Did you manage to slip out of Tim Duncan underoos long enough to watch the NBA playoffs this year?

[J_Paco]

Did you manage to slip out of Tim Duncan underoos long enough to watch the NBA playoffs this year?

How does that help your argument when Carmelo lost in the 1st round, Bosh didn't even make it and Gasol plays on the best team. Duncan still played at a level superior or close to all three last season.

[stéphane]

Piece of cake

1. Kobe
2. Lebron
3. Durant
4. Dwight
5. Wade
6. CP3
7. Deron
8. Gasol
9. Carmelo
10. Bosh

even Dirk, BRoy too

Tim slipped a lot in the last 2 years, particularly on the defensive end.

Paul didn't even play in 50games...
and Bosh? :lol

[blkroadrunners]

Oh and Tiago <68, come on 2k... Take a look at players before rating them.

If Tiago plays up to expectations, his rating should go up assuming you're logged in online.

[history2b]

How does that help your argument when Carmelo lost in the 1st round, Bosh didn't even make it and Gasol plays on the best team. Duncan still played at a level superior or close to all three last season.

Because I'm basing it on the level of play by the individual player, not the team. Spurs beat the Mavericks last year with Manu Ginobili leading the way and George Hill stepping up.

If the back of Tim's jersey said "Casper" instead of "Duncan" I don't think anyone would have noticed.

Meanwhile Gasol topped off a great season winning yet another NBA 'ship toasting to something Tim's never even dreamed about; back to back championships.

Young Bosh and Melo are easily superior to the quickly slipping Timmy D. He's had a legendary career but it's over now. He's not that player anymore and while Spurs fans are clearly the last to embrace this fact I assure you the rest of the league is well aware.

[Trejo]

Because I'm basing it on the level of play by the individual player, not the team. Spurs beat the Mavericks last year with Manu Ginobili leading the way and George Hill stepping up.

If the back of Tim's jersey said "Casper" instead of "Duncan" I don't think anyone would have noticed.

Meanwhile Gasol topped off a great season winning yet another NBA 'ship toasting to something Tim's never even dreamed about; back to back championships.

Young Bosh and Melo are easily superior to the quickly slipping Timmy D. He's had a legendary career but it's over now. He's not that player anymore and while Spurs fans are clearly the last to embrace this fact I assure you the rest of the league is well aware.
I suppose you got bored with the ESPN Spurs board huh history?

[ElNono]

What's incorrect about this?

Manu is more skillful than Tony.

I did say they know their shit... :lol

It's just stuff like that always start the Tony vs Manu threads and the like...

[history2b]

I did say they know their shit... :lol

It's just stuff like that always start the Tony vs Manu threads and the like...

Manu >>> Parker by far.

[anonoftheinternets]

Because I'm basing it on the level of play by the individual player, not the team. Spurs beat the Mavericks last year with Manu Ginobili leading the way and George Hill stepping up.

If the back of Tim's jersey said "Casper" instead of "Duncan" I don't think anyone would have noticed.


lol missing out on timmy scoring in the clutch basket after basket against hayward and dampier down the stretch ... and lol telling spur fans "to go watch spurs PO games" .... this guys either a troll or a dumbass ... my vote is for the latter...

[history2b]

lol missing out on timmy scoring in the clutch basket after basket against hayward and dampier down the stretch ... and lol telling spur fans "to go watch spurs PO games" .... this guys either a troll or a dumbass ... my vote is for the latter...

Did you really just say clutch basket after clutch basket against "hayward and dampier?" It's Haywood first off dipstick but aside from that are you really going to cling to a first round series against the lowly Mavs as evidence that Tim is great?

Where the clutch play after clutch play against the Suns? Goran Dragic was just too good for Tim eh? Or does the 2nd round not count? Getting swept by the Suns was what? Evidence of how great Tim Duncan truly is these days huh? Awesome.

Just another delusional Spurs fan in denial of the obvious. Dime a dozen.

[Chieflion]

I agree with history2b, Gasol is better than Kobe.

[ElNono]

Manu >>> Parker by far.

It wasn't so clear in this forum about a season ago when Manu was out for the season and Tony was tearing it up...

I'm sure we'll hear another chapter in this story if Tony comes back healthy this season :lol

[J_Paco]

I've found the entire Spurs roster ratings on youtube. Here is the breakdown:

Tim Duncan - PF/C
Overall: 90
Offense: 83
Defense: 86
Rebound(ing): 99

Manu Ginobili - SG/SF
Overall: 87
Offense: 88
Defense: 87
Rebound: 54

Tony Parker - PG
Overall: 78
Offense: 85
Defense: 77
Rebound: 25

George Hill - SG/SF
Overall: 76
Offense: 81
Defense: 80
Rebound: 35

Richard Jefferson - SF
Overall: 74
Offense: 81
Defense 75
Rebound: 42

DeJuan Blair - PF/C
Overall: 69
Offense:66
Defense:59
Rebound: 99

Alonzo Gee - SG
Overall: 68
Offense: 75
Defense:74
Rebound: 36

Antonio McDyess - C/PF
Overall: 68
Offense: 65
Defense:56
Rebound: 96

James Anderson - SG/SF
Overall: 66
Offense: 74
Defense: 73
Rebound: 40

Tiago Splitter - PF/C
Overall: 64
Offense: 55
Defense: 72
Rebound: 80

Garrett Temple - SG/PG
Overall: 63
Offense: 61
Defense: 77
Rebound: 39

Matt Bonner - C
Overall: 58
Offense: 64
Defense: 41
Rebound: 65

Top to bottom these ratings are extremely questionable. Here's the video if anyone wants to check out other teams:

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