View Full Version : Nuggets looking into three-way trades involving Anthony
ducks
09-23-2010, 11:55 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post/Nuggets-looking-into-three-way-trades-involving-;_ylt=AjaNifFUJc62XjYHlnk9hg2LvLYF?urn=nba-271792
can spurs get involved
TheSpursFNRule
09-23-2010, 11:56 PM
Question to Spurs fans. If we got in a three way deal and lost Parker but gained Billups...would you be happy?
Leetonidas
09-23-2010, 11:58 PM
Question to Spurs fans. If we got in a three way deal and lost Parker but gained Billups...would you be happy?
Hell no
ducks
09-23-2010, 11:58 PM
denver would not do that unless parker signs an extension with them before trade
spurs10
09-24-2010, 12:03 AM
Parker is going to bring it this year. He's got too much to prove.
Let's check their 2k11 ratings!
I think most rankings have Billups higher than Parker, his stock really fell after his injury plagued season....hopefully he gets his speed and athleticism back. In any case it wouldn't be worth it unless Parker really wants to leave, more of a lateral trade that would entail growing pains and getting even older although he does have a much better 3 point shot.
edgar
09-24-2010, 12:23 AM
If we got Luke would Jefferson be happy?
Spursfan092120
09-24-2010, 12:25 AM
If the Spurs start the season badly, I could see them trading Parker...if not, I see them keeping him and trying to sign him to an extension.
edgar
09-24-2010, 12:27 AM
If the Spurs start the season badly, I could see them trading Parker...if not, I see them keeping him and trying to sign him to an extension.
Thank you for that insight Captain Obvious!
Spursfan092120
09-24-2010, 12:28 AM
Thank you for that insight Captain Obvious!
you're welcome, Corporal Dipshit
Obstructed_View
09-24-2010, 12:28 AM
I mentioned this in a few of the other Carmelo/Parker trade threads: If Carmelo wants to be in New York, and Parker wants to be in New York, how exactly would this trade work, and what does Denver have to gain from it?
gilmor
09-24-2010, 01:44 AM
I think most rankings have Billups higher than Parker, his stock really fell after his injury plagued season....hopefully he gets his speed and athleticism back. In any case it wouldn't be worth it unless Parker really wants to leave, more of a lateral trade that would entail growing pains and getting even older although he does have a much better 3 point shot.
This forum will start bashing Billups, in place of Parker.
TDMVPDPOY
09-24-2010, 02:30 AM
knicks having nothing we want....they got no ballers on the team
jestersmash
09-24-2010, 02:39 AM
Parker is a top 10 point guard in the league (albeit near the lower end). There honestly aren't that many point guards I'd rather have over Parker. Plus there's the fact that parker also has history/chemistry with this current spurs team.
Here are the point guards better than parker -
Chris paul
derrick rose
deron williams
rajon rondo
steve nash
Hell that's only 5 so far. I'd say one could make a strong argument that TP is 6th or 7th best PG in the entire league.
And then there's the fact that even though steve nash is a better PG, I still wouldn't want him because he's old as hell. Parker is still young.
jestersmash
09-24-2010, 02:43 AM
Billups and parker are very different types of PGs. Parker is more of a scoring PG.
Ditty
09-24-2010, 03:56 AM
Hell no billups is a chunker but I would for lawson and affalo but doubt nuggets end up parting with them
Parker is a top 10 point guard in the league (albeit near the lower end). There honestly aren't that many point guards I'd rather have over Parker. Plus there's the fact that parker also has history/chemistry with this current spurs team.
Here are the point guards better than parker -
Chris paul
derrick rose
deron williams
rajon rondo
steve nash
Hell that's only 5 so far. I'd say one could make a strong argument that TP is 6th or 7th best PG in the entire league.
And then there's the fact that even though steve nash is a better PG, I still wouldn't want him because he's old as hell. Parker is still young.
Derrick Rose? That guy sucked in the Worlds for crying out loud. Rondo too can't even hit a fucking jump shot so he had to leave Team USA before coach K cuts him.
eisfeld
09-24-2010, 07:21 AM
Rose is on his way to be better than Parker but Rondo? Really? He's probably the most overrated PG in the league.
Ice009
09-24-2010, 08:39 AM
Parker is a top 10 point guard in the league (albeit near the lower end). There honestly aren't that many point guards I'd rather have over Parker. Plus there's the fact that parker also has history/chemistry with this current spurs team.
Here are the point guards better than parker -
Chris paul
derrick rose
deron williams
rajon rondo
steve nash
Hell that's only 5 so far. I'd say one could make a strong argument that TP is 6th or 7th best PG in the entire league.
And then there's the fact that even though steve nash is a better PG, I still wouldn't want him because he's old as hell. Parker is still young.
TP in the 08-09 season was a top 3 PG, if not number 1 as both Chris Paul and Deron Williams didn't have their best seasons that year. I'm not saying TP is a better PG than them, but that is the kind of level he was playing at.
I think people are forgetting how good TP actually is. The only reason he wasn't great last season was because he was injured and banged up.
SpurCharger
09-24-2010, 10:21 AM
It depends.... If parker is 100% gone, and doesnt wanna resign, then ill Take Chauncey Billups for 2 years... but if parker tells the spurs he wants to stay and play his career as a spur.... then id take Parker for 5 to 6 years.... But Chauncey is A Hell of a player
lefty
09-24-2010, 10:33 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post/Nuggets-looking-into-three-way-trades-involving-;_ylt=AjaNifFUJc62XjYHlnk9hg2LvLYF?urn=nba-271792
can spurs get involved
By trading TP
ffadicted
09-24-2010, 10:36 AM
Question to Spurs fans. If we got in a three way deal and lost Parker but gained Billups...would you be happy?
Sometimes I wonder about the brain capacity of humanity
Parker2112
09-24-2010, 10:52 AM
sometimes i wonder how so many Spurs "fans" don't comprehend the value of defense, and how it plays into evaluating NBA talent.
07-08 Tony was scoring on teams at will and getting scored on at will...especially at games end when he was gassed.
Ive seen Chauncy lock folks down for years. Ive seen him defend the best in the leagu. Ive seen Rondo dig in on D time and again, and Ive seen him win games with his defense.
The best Parker can do is play good team D when he's motivated. Which hasnt happened since 06-07. And I believe that the amount of defense he plays is directly inverse to the amount of effort he expends on the offensive end. So all that scoring comes at a price.
2Cleva
09-24-2010, 12:02 PM
STEIN_LINE_HQ
Just filed to ESPN.com: Nuggets in "serious" discussions on four-way trade w/New Jersey, Utah and Charlotte that would make Melo a Net
Proposed deal, according to sources, would bring Derrick Favors, Andrei Kirilenko and multiple first-rounders to DEN for Melo. Link on way
Other contracts would surely be added to make such a deal work but current proposal also would send Devin Harris to CHA and Diaw to UTAH
lefty
09-24-2010, 12:04 PM
lol nUGGETS
EricB
09-24-2010, 12:05 PM
Kirilenko and Favors to Denver
Devin Harris to Charlotte, Boris Diaw to Utah Stein reporting plus "other contracts to make it work"
EricB
09-24-2010, 12:06 PM
sometimes i wonder how so many Spurs "fans" don't comprehend the value of defense, and how it plays into evaluating NBA talent.
07-08 Tony was scoring on teams at will and getting scored on at will...especially at games end when he was gassed.
Ive seen Chauncy lock folks down for years. Ive seen him defend the best in the leagu. Ive seen Rondo dig in on D time and again, and Ive seen him win games with his defense.
The best Parker can do is play good team D when he's motivated. Which hasnt happened since 06-07. And I believe that the amount of defense he plays is directly inverse to the amount of effort he expends on the offensive end. So all that scoring comes at a price.
One is young and in his prime the other declining.
Go away.
Parker2112
09-24-2010, 12:16 PM
One is young and in his prime the other declining.
Go away.
That would make your day wouldnt it? :lol
I dont need to harp, but when the delusional TP fanboys infest a given thread, I feel its only proper to give the other side of the coin. To beat the drum of Spurs defense.
Parker had a chance to shut down the criticism himself last year. Even before his injuries, his defense was d-grade and his shot was gone.
But he had his drive I guess:sleep
EricB
09-24-2010, 12:19 PM
That would make your day wouldnt it? :lol
I dont need to harp, but when the delusional TP fanboys infest a given thread, I feel its only proper to give the other side of the coin. To beat the drum of Spurs defense.
Parker had a chance to shut down the criticism himself last year. Even before his injuries, his defense was d-grade and his shot was gone.
But he had his drive I guess:sleep
TP fanboys = rational?
Yeah an aging Chauncey Billups for a young all star point guard is a genius trade!
Keep convincing yourself that attention whore.
bdictjames
09-24-2010, 12:20 PM
Why would Anthony want to go to NJ?
timtonymanu
09-24-2010, 12:22 PM
LMAO Melo
EricB
09-24-2010, 12:24 PM
Why would Anthony want to go to NJ?
1 when they move to Brooklyn he'd be the centerpiece of the team.
New Jersey seems to be giving up alot.
DJ Mbenga
09-24-2010, 12:25 PM
what corpse starts at pg for the nets? otherwise its a good move. dont tell me its Farmar? lol!
8FOR!3
09-24-2010, 12:30 PM
I don't know, giving up Favors and Harris is giving up half the core of your team. But on the other hand, you can still get a decent lineup out of that.
Jordan Farmar
Terrence Williams
Carmelo Anthony
Troy Murphy
Brook Lopez
Could be a playoff team soon with that. But you'd have to do something about the PG position.
timtonymanu
09-24-2010, 12:30 PM
Lopez
Murphy
Melo
Morrow
Farmar
8FOR!3
09-24-2010, 12:32 PM
I would think that with a scorer like Melo you'd move Terrence Williams to SG and start him as your defensive stopper instead of starting a guy who's a three point shooter like Anthony Morrow.
toki9
09-24-2010, 12:38 PM
Favors must be happy to hear all this speculation, along with the rumor that Avery isn't too high on him...and all this before the training camp even starts...welcome to the NBA...
DJ Mbenga
09-24-2010, 12:42 PM
somewhere kobe is is serving himself some chapagne. the west gets even easier.
Parker2112
09-24-2010, 12:48 PM
TP fanboys = rational?
Yeah an aging Chauncey Billups for a young all star point guard is a genius trade!
Keep convincing yourself that attention whore.
sure thing, controlling prick :lol
ohmwrecker
09-24-2010, 01:04 PM
Why would Anthony want to go to NJ?
He probably just wants to get the hell out of Denver and doesn't care where he goes. The Nuggets are a talented team, but they are a mess chemistry wise and most of them don't have the IQ to change a light bulb. I feel bad for George Karl. His reputation is going down the toilet coaching those idiots.
mountainballer
09-24-2010, 01:23 PM
Why would Anthony want to go to NJ?
because he is from Brooklyn, to where the Nets will move soon?
because he wants the NY market and flair?
because his wife wants to live and work in NY?
because the Nets do have some promising talent to work with?
because Prokhorov can and will trow a boatload of money on the Nets?
because on a single Prokhorov party he will meet more VIPs than in ten years in Denver?
DPG21920
09-24-2010, 01:24 PM
How is Utah saving money here? I can't access the numbers.
FvckMavs
09-24-2010, 01:34 PM
because he is from Brooklyn, to where the Nets will move soon?
He is from Baltimore.
Utah getting Boris? Did they not see how fat he was in the world championships?
mountainballer
09-24-2010, 02:10 PM
He is from Baltimore.
born in Brooklyn and lived there till he was 8 years old.
then he moved to Baltimore.
lurker23
09-24-2010, 02:55 PM
what corpse starts at pg for the nets? otherwise its a good move. dont tell me its Farmar? lol!
Rumor has it that the Nets will get DJ Augustin as well.
How is Utah saving money here? I can't access the numbers.
Kirilenko is due to make $17,823,000. The only two names that have been said to be going to Jazz at the moment are Diaw and Quinton Ross, who add up to $10.1 mil. Obviously there will need to be other contract filler added to make the numbers work, but presumably they can get the contracts right such that they save enough money to get under the luxury tax.
lurker23
09-24-2010, 02:59 PM
I'm not going to run the complicated numbers to see what the Jazz hit against the tax is, but their raw salary numbers add up to $75.7 million (http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/jazz.jsp), and the luxury tax threshold is $70.3 million. Presumably by shaving off however much they can in this AK trade, plus the fact that they're paying 3-4 players less than what they were paying AK, would be enough to get them under the tax.
DPG21920
09-24-2010, 03:09 PM
That's what I thought bc I did not see a team absorbing salaries so others, like Utah, could take back less than they gave out.
Thomas82
09-24-2010, 05:58 PM
Favors must be happy to hear all this speculation, along with the rumor that Avery isn't too high on him...and all this before the training camp even starts...welcome to the NBA...
For real? I haven't heard that. I read a while back that Avery said that Derrick Favors reminded him of Tim Duncan. I know it's a pipedream, but I wish the Spurs could find a way to get him. I wanted them to move up to the #3 spot in the draft and get him.
EricB
09-24-2010, 06:14 PM
Apparently NJ would also get DJ Agustin back.
Very nice trade for NJ if they got Mello AND Agustin..
duncan228
09-24-2010, 06:20 PM
I read a while back that Avery said that Derrick Favors reminded him of Tim Duncan.
Johnson's been talking Favors up a lot.
...But I cannot minimize what he said about Derrick Favors during today’s lunch with beat reporters. Last week, Johnson went into a room with his bosses at a Board of Directors meeting. He presented them a video that compared Favors to old footage of Kevin Garnett and Tim Duncan, demonstrating they all had similar moves at Favors’ age (19). By doing this, of course, Johnson basically told board members that Favors is the future of this team.
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/nets/2010/09/averys-favor-ite.html?obref=obnetwork
Johnson said that he wants Harris to be the engine that runs the team and he noted that Favors shows the potential at 19-years-old that Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett showed at the same age.
http://www.standard.net/topics/sports/2010/09/24/nets-working-deal-carmelo-anthony-jazz-could-move-kirilenko-part-deal
ginobilized
09-24-2010, 06:46 PM
If this trade happens, might Travis Outlaw be expendable in NJ?
And possibly available as a backup 3 for the Spurs? Hypothetical trade deadline pickup?
hmmmm........
lurker23
09-24-2010, 07:25 PM
Apparently NJ would also get DJ Agustin back.
Very nice trade for NJ if they got Mello AND Agustin..
True, but they'd be giving up the #3 overall pick (Favors), two future first rounders, and Devin Harris. Almost any trade where you get Carmelo is a good trade, but it's not exactly a pittance.
EricB
09-24-2010, 07:44 PM
True, but they'd be giving up the #3 overall pick (Favors), two future first rounders, and Devin Harris. Almost any trade where you get Carmelo is a good trade, but it's not exactly a pittance.
Favors is really raw, the two first rounders are 0 guarantee.
Getting a super star and a solid PG for 3 draft picks and Devin Harris is a damn damn good trade.
EricB
09-24-2010, 07:45 PM
Right now it would be great if the Spurs could get in on the Nuggets rebuilding process. Players like Birdman, Al Harrington, Billups, K mart, Nene, maybe JR, will all be on the trading block for cheap. When Melo leaves, so will Billups.
Al Harrington? KMart!?!? yuck.
Birdman, maybe, but that contract for his output, meh.
Nene, again no thanks.
dunkman
09-24-2010, 09:51 PM
Until the Spurs get to know what they have in Anderson and Neal, there are no expandable players. Parker can't be replaced by Hill at PG, because Hill doesn't pass the ball at all and Parker is more consistent scorer in the playoffs. RJ can't even be traded till mid season and he doesn't have a backup. Bonner either can't be traded, and if the Spurs were to trade him mid-season they wouldn't be able to play 4 down anymore except with RJ at PF, since no other big has 3 point range. Hill can't be traded because he's the Spurs best perimeter defensive player. And so on.
It would make sense to make some trade for Melo, because he could be the next Spurs franchise player, but otherwise it's better to keep this group together and try win a title in the two seasons that Duncan is under contract, also to keep the draft picks for rebuilding (the Spurs are adding fine rookies since some time). Since Melo wont join the Spurs, why bother with the trade and create disorder?
The Spurs need a wing defender, that could be Devin Brown that has good familiarity with the systems Spurs used some seasons ago. Otherwise there is a hope that some defensive player gets cut mid season. If nothing happens, Hill and RJ will have to play better defense than last season.
EricB
09-25-2010, 01:52 AM
The Spurs need a wing defender, that could be Devin Brown that has good familiarity with the systems Spurs used some seasons ago.
Devin burned the Spurs bridge a long time ago..
2Cleva
09-25-2010, 07:51 AM
Devin burned the Spurs bridge a long time ago..
Only with fandom, he didn't do anything against the organization.
Doesn't matter - Charlotte will get him if the deal happens.
ChuckD
09-25-2010, 09:29 AM
Only with fandom, he didn't do anything against the organization.
Doesn't matter - Charlotte will get him if the deal happens.
Actually, just the opposite. Most of the fans still like Devin. It's the organization that had enough. I know the first time he was cut, in 2002-2003, it was for habitual lateness to practices, etc. Cost him a ring.
Doesn't matter though. That ship has sailed. Isn't he like 30 something now? Besides, people here would complain that he's only 6'5".
ohmwrecker
09-25-2010, 12:58 PM
Al Harrington? KMart!?!? yuck.
Birdman, maybe, but that contract for his output, meh.
Nene, again no thanks.
Birdman is an idiot. Most of the Thuggets are worthless. I would take Nene in a heartbeat though.
Biggems
09-25-2010, 01:06 PM
Too bad we cant get in on the action and weasel Damion James away from NJ...not sure what we would have to give up, but James would be a great backup to RJ.
ChuckD
09-25-2010, 01:15 PM
Too bad we cant get in on the action and weasel Damion James away from NJ...not sure what we would have to give up, but James would be a great backup to RJ.
?? James was available. If the Spurs wanted him, they would have acquired him, either at #20 or by trading down.
D-rob fan
09-25-2010, 03:31 PM
With Amare and Anthony out East, the forward spot in the Allstar game gets easier. There will only be Duncan and Dirk. Duncan's streak as a starter is surely to continue.
Lukor
09-25-2010, 04:05 PM
With Amare and Anthony out East, the forward spot in the Allstar game gets easier. There will only be Duncan and Dirk. Duncan's streak as a starter is surely to continue.
Well the trade hasnt happened yet.I somehow doubt Melo wants to go to NJ.
DPG21920
09-25-2010, 04:49 PM
Birdman is an idiot. Most of the Thuggets are worthless. I would take Nene in a heartbeat though.
Yeah, I don't get the saying "no" to Nene. He is fantastic.
mountainballer
09-25-2010, 04:57 PM
With Amare and Anthony out East, the forward spot in the Allstar game gets easier. There will only be Duncan and Dirk. Duncan's streak as a starter is surely to continue.
ever heard about a player named Kevin Durant? some say he ain't bad. and that Gasol guy is a forward either.
ChuckD
09-25-2010, 05:05 PM
Well the trade hasnt happened yet.I somehow doubt Melo wants to go to NJ.
NJ will be in Brooklyn in about 2 years, so he gets his trip to NY eventually. Going to the Knicks would be bad for him, basketball-wise, because they don't have much talent beyond Amare, and what there is would be pillaged in any trade. Their cupboard is pretty bare.
mountainballer
09-25-2010, 05:36 PM
I don't think that Amare alongside Melo would work without frictions. (basketball-wise)
Lopez on the other hand would be a pretty good fit IMO.
ducks
09-25-2010, 06:03 PM
jr would not be a bad pickup if it take much to get him
gospursgojas
09-25-2010, 08:30 PM
Amare, Melo, Parker is gonna be a great Big 3. Knicks/Heat rivalry will be in full force come 2011-2012 season
Spurs Brazil
09-26-2010, 11:09 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AkKLX.cVCkpID4H7TuMVZUi8vLYF?slug=ys-anthonytrade092610
Nets trade for ‘Melo nears crossroads
By Adrian Wojnarowski and Marc J. Spears, Yahoo! Sports
As Carmelo Anthony(notes) implored Denver management to keep exploring deals that would land him with the New York Knicks, the blockbuster trade that would’ve sent the All-Star forward to the New Jersey Nets has reached a perilous crossroads, league sources told Yahoo! Sports on Saturday night.
Anthony’s willingness to accept a contract extension with the Nets has begun to deteriorate over the weekend, and sources said at least some part of his uneasiness has come from conversations with former Nets players around the league. Despite the Nets’ new ownership and a new arena, Anthony has been regaled with tales of empty seats, fan apathy and second-class citizenship in the shadows of the Knicks and Madison Square Garden. Already, he had been uneager about joining a team that wasn’t close to contention.
“He’s having second thoughts on Jersey,” one league source said. “He’s pushed [Denver] to explore other options.”
The Nuggets believe the deal with New Jersey gives them maximum value for Anthony, but they still engaged the Knicks on Saturday in discussions that included Danilo Gallinari(notes), Anthony Randolph(notes) and Toney Douglas(notes), sources said. The Knicks were working to pry draft picks to use in a deal for Anthony, and sources said they had talks with the Houston Rockets, who obtained New York’s 2012 first-rounder to clear cap space in a February deadline deal.
Meanwhile, the three teams – New Jersey, Charlotte and Utah – that had come to a tentative agreement on the trade were rapidly losing patience with Denver’s front office. After believing they had the parameters of a trade in place Friday, several executives were frustrated with the way the Nuggets were leveraging them to find a better deal. There still are several Nuggets voices in the process, and there’s confusion from other teams about who is truly authorizing deals and making decisions, sources said.
DPG21920
09-26-2010, 11:24 AM
NJ will be in Brooklyn in about 2 years, so he gets his trip to NY eventually. Going to the Knicks would be bad for him, basketball-wise, because they don't have much talent beyond Amare, and what there is would be pillaged in any trade. Their cupboard is pretty bare.
Felton is a very solid player. Gallinari is a very talented player. Randolph/Azubuike/Chandler are all solid. Sure, they will have to have depth to be a true contender, but Felton/Melo/Amare is pretty damn good talent wise in the East.
ChuckD
09-26-2010, 11:40 AM
Felton is a very solid player. Gallinari is a very talented player. Randolph/Azubuike/Chandler are all solid. Sure, they will have to have depth to be a true contender, but Felton/Melo/Amare is pretty damn good talent wise in the East.
Go back and re-read my post. NY has no picks to trade, so that talent that you mentioned will be going out the door. It will be Amare, Melo, and the d-league.
ChuckD
09-26-2010, 11:41 AM
Oh, and lol about having reservations about the Nets. Has he watched that fucking circus that has played in MSG and the Knicks front office over the better part of the last decade?
ChuckD
09-26-2010, 11:42 AM
Amare, Melo, Parker is gonna be a great Big 3. Knicks/Heat rivalry will be in full force come 2011-2012 season
That trio will never happen. Parker isn't signing for the MLE, and the Knicks don't have the pieces to do ONE of those trades, let along two of them.
DPG21920
09-26-2010, 11:49 AM
Go back and re-read my post. NY has no picks to trade, so that talent that you mentioned will be going out the door. It will be Amare, Melo, and the d-league.
Felton/Amare/Melo would still be in tact and that is a very solid trio. Is it MIA or LA good? No. But it is solid.
ChuckD
09-26-2010, 11:59 AM
Felton/Amare/Melo would still be in tact and that is a very solid trio. Is it MIA or LA good? No. But it is solid.
:lol You need more than 3/5ths of a starting 5 and some d-leaguers.
NY would suck hard and have no help (picks) on the horizon.
DPG21920
09-26-2010, 12:03 PM
:lol You need more than 3/5ths of a starting 5 and some d-leaguers.
NY would suck hard and have no help (picks) on the horizon.
Guy, you are overstating this. There are such things as 3 team & 4 team trades. NY would not be the only one involved.
ChuckD
09-26-2010, 12:10 PM
Guy, you are overstating this. There are such things as 3 team & 4 team trades. NY would not be the only one involved.
You are understating it, softpedaling it as it were. It doesn't matter how many teams are involved, NY is going to have to strip their cupboard even barer than it is now to get Anthony.
SequSpur
09-26-2010, 03:57 PM
omg....
Spurs Brazil
09-27-2010, 07:07 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AvQh96AN_5m4_S0ebnS08Oi8vLYF?slug=ys-anthonynuggets092710
Nets constructing new deal for Anthony
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
12 minutes ago
As talks on a four-way deal that included Utah and Charlotte lost momentum on Monday, Denver and New Jersey were constructing contingency plans with several other teams to keep alive hopes of a trade that would send Carmelo Anthony(notes) to the Nets, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
New Jersey and Denver were moving from including Utah’s Andrei Kirilenko(notes) and Charlotte’s Boris Diaw(notes) in the trade packages, front-office sources said, and finding eager trade partners in both the Eastern and Western conferences. Denver and New Jersey were trying to line up new scenarios that still would result with Anthony in New Jersey and Derrick Favors(notes) and Nets draft picks in Denver, sources said.
More From Yahoo! Sports StaffRaptors among teams pursuing Dampier Sep 27, 2010 Nelson leaves with record Sep 23, 2010 After what felt like momentum early in the morning with the original four-team plan, Denver kept engaging more teams in talks, and the Charlotte and Utah part of the proposal began to lose traction.
One of the biggest obstacles with cutting a deal with the Nuggets, league executives said, continues to be the peculiar and unclear power structure of the Denver front office. What had been the case under the previous regime has carried over with new vice president of basketball operations Masai Ujiri, the owner’s son, Josh Kroenke, and adviser Bret Bearup: No one talking to the Nuggets is sure who’s in charge, who’s making the decision and who can get everyone in agreement.
Anthony arrived at Denver’s training camp for media day on Monday, but didn’t engage in much of the normal promotional shots for the team’s Altitude television network and game-night operations, a source told Yahoo! Sports’ Marc Spears.
The Nuggets star had hoped a deal would’ve been in place before he reported for the start of camp, a league source said, but decided against openly criticizing the organization in his media remarks. Instead, he was noncommittal about his future in Denver. He can become a free agent at the end of the season and so far has rejected a three-year, $65 million contract extension.
“There’s been a lot of speculation, a lot of rumors going on this summer about where I’m going to end up, the Nuggets want to trade me, I want to be traded,” Anthony said. “That’s for my team and front office to discuss. I’m here to focus on basketball and training camp.”
Meanwhile, the uncertainty that’s surrounding teams involved in the talks is starting to take a predictable toll on egos and emotions at training camps. Even if a deal for Anthony never materializes, New Jersey coach Avery Johnson has serious repairs to make with Nets point guard Devin Harris(notes), a league source told Yahoo! Sports on Monday.
Harris had been a huge advocate for Johnson with former Nets officials by endorsing the hiring of Johnson over the summer, and a source says Harris is feeling “a little put off” that the coach is so quickly looking to send him out of New Jersey as part of a trade for Anthony.
As part of the original four-team trade proposal, Harris was destined for Charlotte and wasn’t terribly enthusiastic about the move. And that was especially true after Johnson had spent the summer selling Harris so hard on how much he needed him to help sell the coach’s program in New Jersey.
Johnson and Harris had an up-and-down relationship in Dallas, but Harris believed the Nets desperately needed Johnson’s discipline and structure, and pushed hard with former president Rod Thorn for Johnson’s hiring. Harris, 27, came to the Nets in 2008 as part of the Jason Kidd(notes) trade with Dallas. He had his best season as a pro in 2008-09 when he averaged 21.3 points and 6.9 assists.
Yahoo! Sports’ NBA reporter Marc J. Spears contributed to this story.
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