So About This Gay Kid That Jumped

[balli]

Sad as hell. I'm glad the roommate's probably going to prison.

...That said, I don't understand the person who kills themselves over being exposed for who they are or over an isolated incident. Maybe he had other demons and this shit was the straw that broke his back (no pun) and obviously, being forcefully and publicly outed was a disgusting and devastating thing for this guy to deal with, but dude, life would've gone on. Very tragic and unnecessary.

[thispego]

what the fuck are you talking about?

[balli]

what the fuck are you talking about?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/suicide-rutgers-university-freshman-tyler-clementi-stuns-veteran/story?id=11763784

[sa_butta]

what the fuck are you talking about?
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/30/new.jersey.student.suicide/index.html?hpt=T1

[thispego]

rofl what the fuck? thanks social netwroking! pretty asshole thing of the roommate to do though... mind your own fuckin business! why was he so interested in watching his gay roommate have gay sex? lol

[mrsmaalox]

Obviously he wasn't ready to be "outed" or felt that his sex life was nobody's business. It was a severe violation of his person. Everyone interprets and deals with humiliation differently. It's a sad case.

[Spurminator]

Yeah, this was no ordinary "outing"... There are heterosexual kids that would kill themselves over this kind of humiliation.

[sa_butta]

I wonder if they feel bad at all??

[JudynTX]

Why couldn't the roommate just mind his own fucking business?

[MiamiHeat]

eh, saved the kid the trouble of having to wade through this world anyway. it's all shit and he learned it right at the start. if he's that sensitive, he woulda had a hard time in life anyway

[balli]

I wonder if they feel bad at all??

From what I read his roommate is a fairly liberal, open guy. He was probably confronted with homosexuality in a way that stretched his limits of toleration and consequently acted immaturely and extremely irresponsibly. I bet he feels horrible, if I had to guess. I also think he should be prosecuted and convicted, given the results of his behavior.

[mrsmaalox]

Another thing is, from what I've been hearing, this kid was an upstanding citizen, talented, gifted, a "golden boy" type. Seems like he was used to much success and accolades. It's very possible this was the first time he experienced real humiliation and was not emotionally prepared to deal with it any other way.

[CosmicCowboy]

I don't condone this shit at all but I'm not sure 5 years in prison fixes anything.

[Spurminator]

He should be punished the same way he would have been punished if the kid hadn't killed himself.

[CuckingFunt]

The trend toward the broadcast of our everyday lives and everyday moments is going to be the ruin of society.

For seriously.

What an arrogant sense of entitlement that one would think it okay to make public his roommate's sexual encounters. Especially a roommate he'd known for, what, two months? Less?

[BadOdor]

Has Zosa been posting lately....?

[z0sa]

The roommate literally broadcast it as it happened - and was attempting doing it again.

It's not just being outed, it's being outed in that kind of fashion. The deepest violation of personal privacy possible, methinks.

That roommate will find out what less-than-private gay sex is all about, in prison.

[Stringer_Bell]

Another thing is, from what I've been hearing, this kid was an upstanding citizen, talented, gifted, a "golden boy" type. Seems like he was used to much success and accolades. It's very possible this was the first time he experienced real humiliation and was not emotionally prepared to deal with it any other way.

Let me posit this question for brain candy...if he was gay, and liked gay sex, why would he be humiliated TO THE POINT OF SUICIDE in his personal choices? I agree with the sentiment that this was probably the last straw for him. Was the roommate a piece of shit? Yes. Should be get punished for invasion of privacy? Yes. But prosecute him for murder or as an accessory for a grown man's decision to kill himself? No.

[z0sa]

Has Zosa been posting lately....?

you think this guy deserved to die and you're happy about it.

[MannyIsGod]

Fucked up shit. CC, prison doesn't solve shit but does it ever? Let that fucker sit there and stew about it like any thug who commits a crime gets to.

[MannyIsGod]

you think this guy deserved to die and you're happy about it.

Just because he'd be happy if it was you doesn't mean he thinks THIS guy deserves to die. Just you.

[z0sa]

Just because he'd be happy if it was you doesn't mean he thinks THIS guy deserves to die. Just you.

He's on the record being happy about other such cases and the victims' deaths or possible deaths.

:lol defending trolls because you're butthurt.

[redzero]

He was so butthurt he killed himself. lolwut

[desflood]

you're butthurt.
What an appropriate choice of words for this thread.

[BadOdor]

Tbh I really wish in this case, he would have shot the roommate before killing himself. Solves the jail problem tbh.

[balli]

Was the roommate a piece of shit? Yes. Should be get punished for invasion of privacy? Yes. But prosecute him for murder or as an accessory for a grown man's decision to kill himself? No.
Agreed. There's no sense in completely destroying another kid's entire future (even if that kid did a really, really, really stupid and cruel thing). But a few months in county, a felony record and a lengthy probationary period sounds about right.

If nothing else, there needs to be a cyberbullying case that ends with a meaningful warning to others. As this is so high profile, it serves as a good example of what not to do.

[z0sa]

What an appropriate choice of words for this thread.

redzero's post made me :lmao

[redzero]

But prosecute him for murder or as an accessory for a grown man's decision to kill himself? No.

We need the Mark Jackson troll up in here.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Tbh I really wish in this case, he would have shot the roommate before killing himself. Solves the jail problem tbh.
Yeah no kidding. Same thing with that 13 year old who killed himself because of bullying. Why not kill off the prick who is causing you to commit suicide before committing suicide?

[Cry Havoc]

Yeah no kidding. Same thing with that 13 year old who killed himself because of bullying. Why not kill off the prick who is causing you to commit suicide before committing suicide?

2 wrongs != right.

[BadOdor]

2 wrongs != right.

Lefty:"no, but three lefts make a right!"

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Lefty:"no, but three lefts make a right!"


Did you know Dereek Sweesher (:lmao my nicknames are so funny) is left handed?

[Stringer_Bell]

Apparently, the deceased guy ASKED and got permission to have the room until midnight on at least two occassions. I think the roommate was freaked that gay sex was happening in his bed. How does this change things? The deceased guy wasn't being a jerk about it, he asked permission...and the roommate put it on iCHAT. Not THAT big of a deal unless some creep recorded it and tried to blackmail. But yea, I definately think this was bigger than streaming his sexual encounters.

[The Franchise]

The asshole should be prosecuted for stalking and invasion of privacy, but as incredibly mean as this was, he is not responsible for this kid taking his own life. What would motivate you to record gay sex anyway? Sound like the little punk may have been hiding his own homosexuality.

[redzero]

Sound like the little punk may have been hiding his own homosexuality.

I knew that this would come up eventually.

[mrsmaalox]

Apparently, the deceased guy ASKED and got permission to have the room until midnight on at least two occassions. I think the roommate was freaked that gay sex was happening in his bed. How does this change things? The deceased guy wasn't being a jerk about it, he asked permission...and the roommate put it on iCHAT. Not THAT big of a deal unless some creep recorded it and tried to blackmail. But yea, I definately think this was bigger than streaming his sexual encounters.

But apparently it is THAT big of a deal. From the article:

"Under New Jersey's invasion-of-privacy statutes, it is a fourth degree crime to collect or view images depicting nudity or sexual contact involving another individual without that person's consent, and it is a third degree crime to transmit or distribute such images. The penalty for conviction of a third degree offense can include a prison term of up to five years"

That is what he is potentially being punished for, not anything to do with being resposible for the kid's death.

[Sisk]

Fucked up. I've heard he can get 5 years maximum, but I hope they somehow get him to do a lot more.

[Sisk]

Sound like the little punk may have been hiding his own homosexuality.

I agree

[JamStone]

Agree with many. Completely shitty thing to do by his roommate. But the kid committing suicide is on himself. People get humiliated everyday to varying degrees. If you choose to kill yourself over humiliation, in my opinion, that's more on you than on anyone who humiliated you.

As a side, we're going to see more and more bad things to come from technological advances like youtube and facebook and the like. I think it's just the tip of the iceberg. I gotta believe criminals share ideas and experiences online already. I wouldn't be surprised if hate groups have videotaped and broadcasted beatings or even murders. I've seen a few episodes on Law & Order with cases of murders or sex crimes that were directly or indirectly related to the internet and sharing aspects of the crime on the internet.

[easjer]

I can see how a dimwit who didn't particularly care for his roommate could see that as an elaborate prank. Ridiculously invasive and explicitly wrong, but I can see how he wouldn't have had any idea that it would lead to this kid's suicide.

And yes, I suspect there were other issues involved here, probably undiagnoses/untreated depression.

And yes, the roommate should be prosecuted for recording and transmission of this material and breach of privacy etc to the fullest extent of the law - which happens to be a maximum of 5 years in prison if convicted. Unlikely to get so much time, but, yeah, some seems appropriate for the laws he violated and not quite enough time for his share of responsibility in contributing to this kid's decision to off himself.

[Jacob1983]

Why would you post a gay sex video? That shit should be private.

[Texas_Ranger]

The guy who made the video is a dumb moron and so is the dead kid. Killed himself cause he was in the gay video. Just great. Tomorrow some 12 year old will kill himself cause he wasn't allowed to watch the TV. This is just stupid.

[JoeChalupa]

I don't condone this shit at all but I'm not sure 5 years in prison fixes anything.

Does prison really ever fix anything other than get the convicted off the streets?

[CosmicCowboy]

OK, we all agree this went beyond an innocent roommate prank....but how many of you have ever had a roommate you couldn't stand? I lived in the dorm my first year in college and had a real turd for a roommate the first semester...but he HATED me...he was a virgin and couldn't get laid to save his ass and I was always kicking him out of the room...best prank I pulled on him was after picking up this hottie at a bar when he was home for the weekend...she was really nice to look at but had some definite feminine hygiene issues...not bad enough to throw her out, but definitely an issue...I grabbed my roommates pillow and put it under her ass so she could get her knees over my shoulders and I could have some leverage (also to keep her from dripping on my sheets LOL) After she left I just put his pillow back on his bed...LMAO That fucking pillow REEKED. He came back Sunday night and sat down on his bed and was like *sniff*.....*sniff* sniff*....he's looking all around...I'm hiding under my blankets trying not to laugh...he finally gets his nose down on his bed and starts "sniff"sniff"sniffing" around...picks his pillow up and buries his nose in it and give it a couple of "SNIFF*SNIFF*'s...he was like EEEEUW WTF happened to my pillow? He finally ended up ,throwing it away...

[redzero]

OK, we all agree this went beyond an innocent room mate prank....but how many of you have ever had a room mate you couldn't stand? I lived in the dorm my first year in college and had a real turd for a room mate...but he HATED me...he was a virgin and couldn't get laid to save his ass and I was always kicking him out of the room...best prank I pulled on him was after picking up this hottie at a bar when he was home for the weekend...she was really nice to look at but had some definite feminine hygiene issues...not bad enough to throw her out, but definitely an issue...I grabbed my room mates pillow and put it under her ass so she could get her knees over my shoulders and I could have some leverage (also to keep her from dripping on my sheets LOL) After she left I just put his pillow back on his bed...LMAO That fucking pillow REEKED. He came back Sunday night and sat down on his be and was like *sniff*.....*sniff* sniff*....he's looking all around...I'm hiding under my blankets trying not to laugh...he finally gets his nose down on his bed bed and starts "sniff"sniff"sniffing" around...picks his pillow up and buries his nose in it and give it a couple of "SNIFF*SNIFF*'s...he was like EEEEUW WTF happened to my pillow? He finally ended up ,throwing it away...

You were a horrible roommate.

[CosmicCowboy]

You were a horrible roommate.

I was a GREAT roommate. Just not for him.

[mrsmaalox]

OK, we all agree this went beyond an innocent roommate prank....but how many of you have ever had a room mate you couldn't stand? I lived in the dorm my first year in college and had a real turd for a roommate...but he HATED me...he was a virgin and couldn't get laid to save his ass and I was always kicking him out of the room...best prank I pulled on him was after picking up this hottie at a bar when he was home for the weekend...she was really nice to look at but had some definite feminine hygiene issues...not bad enough to throw her out, but definitely an issue...I grabbed my roommates pillow and put it under her ass so she could get her knees over my shoulders and I could have some leverage (also to keep her from dripping on my sheets LOL) After she left I just put his pillow back on his bed...LMAO That fucking pillow REEKED. He came back Sunday night and sat down on his bed and was like *sniff*.....*sniff* sniff*....he's looking all around...I'm hiding under my blankets trying not to laugh...he finally gets his nose down on his bed bed and starts "sniff"sniff"sniffing" around...picks his pillow up and buries his nose in it and give it a couple of "SNIFF*SNIFF*'s...he was like EEEEUW WTF happened to my pillow? He finally ended up ,throwing it away...

She could leave a pillow reeking? So at what point would her hygiene issues be bad enough to throw her out?? :vomit:

[LnGrrrR]

she was really nice to look at but had some definite feminine hygiene issues...

And you still had sex with her?

[CosmicCowboy]

She could leave a pillow reeking? So at what point would her hygeine issues be bad enough to throw her out?? :vomit:

:lmao...I actually considered it but horniness won out...like I said, she was really hot looking but the smell was definitely noticeable...you know what they say about bar pickups being like a box of chocolates...plus she was really wet and the pillow got pretty wet...

[Stringer_Bell]

She could leave a pillow reeking? So at what point would her hygiene issues be bad enough to throw her out?? :vomit:

I think perhaps "reek" was the wrong word to illustrate his point, unless the after-sex puddle isn't supposed to smell like anything. Certainly shouldn't reek, but I can understand how someone who hasn't been near a vagina would be grossed out by the smell of dried feminine juices.

[AnthonyM]

OK, we all agree this went beyond an innocent roommate prank....but how many of you have ever had a roommate you couldn't stand? I lived in the dorm my first year in college and had a real turd for a roommate the first semester...but he HATED me...he was a virgin and couldn't get laid to save his ass and I was always kicking him out of the room...best prank I pulled on him was after picking up this hottie at a bar when he was home for the weekend...she was really nice to look at but had some definite feminine hygiene issues...not bad enough to throw her out, but definitely an issue...I grabbed my roommates pillow and put it under her ass so she could get her knees over my shoulders and I could have some leverage (also to keep her from dripping on my sheets LOL) After she left I just put his pillow back on his bed...LMAO That fucking pillow REEKED. He came back Sunday night and sat down on his bed and was like *sniff*.....*sniff* sniff*....he's looking all around...I'm hiding under my blankets trying not to laugh...he finally gets his nose down on his bed and starts "sniff"sniff"sniffing" around...picks his pillow up and buries his nose in it and give it a couple of "SNIFF*SNIFF*'s...he was like EEEEUW WTF happened to my pillow? He finally ended up ,throwing it away...

Lol, sick...

[LnGrrrR]

:lmao...I actually considered it but horniness won out...like I said, she was really hot looking but the smell was definitely noticeable...you know what they say about bar pickups being like a box of chocolates...plus she was really wet and the pillow got pretty wet...

For all the young guys in the audience, if this situation occurs to you, suggest you two take a sexy shower together first. If she says no... uhm... pretend to get a phone call. :lol

[AnthonyM]

I mean, vaginas and their juices have a distinct smell...I'll give you that, but it shouldn't be strong enough to make someone throw their pillow away. Normal vaginas don't really smell that bad so I don't know what this girl was on...

Or maybe she just didn't wipe her ass and her crack was all smelly and sweaty, then combine that with the ass juice and stuff on the pillow to make that nasty ass smell. But, again if it was that bad it'd be pretty noticeable at the bar. Pretty sure I wouldn't take her home...Lose-lose situation imo...

[CosmicCowboy]

And you still had sex with her?


LOL gimme a break...I was 18 years old and a walking hard on. I was not about to say..."Damn, girl, you have the body of a goddess but your fucking snatch smells like tuna fish...cover that shit up and get the fuck out of here"....I banged the shit out of her and THEN told her to GTFO.

[Stringer_Bell]

For all the young guys in the audience, if this situation occurs to you, suggest you two take a sexy shower together first. If she says no... uhm... pretend to get a phone call. :lol


omfg :lmao:lmao:lmao

Why do i get the feeling LnGrrrR made a young career out of telling chicks "hey girl, your coochie smells a little tender, let's take a sexy shower"?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I'm as liberal as it gets, but I think an issue here that schools need to start addressing is rooming openly gay students with straight students in the dorms, it lends itself to disasters like this. At this point all schools have a system that is used for random roommate assignment, it wouldn't be very hard to add to it and make all people who sign up for random roommate assignment answer if they are either gay, straight and comfortable rooming with someone who is gay, or straight and uncomfortable rooming with someone who is gay. Maybe the kid who filmed it is just a misunderstood clown who woulda secretly filmed a straight roommate having sex, but the chances of that are slim. The way schools just recklessly room two people figuring that they can figure out their differences regardless of what they are is stupid. As a Jew who was roomed with a Paki my freshman year who smelled like shit and openly stated his disdain for Israel being a country, I was in a similar situation.

[mingus]

shitty set of circumstances for the kid that killed himself, but ultimately he made a stupid, rash decision.

i mean, seriously, he could've probably went about deleting the thing from the internet if he tried hard enough to before a handful of people saw it.

[BRHornet45]

Sons did he get pounded out in the video? Or was there just some fun boy touching going on? Just saying ... if he got his ass blown out live on the internet you then can understand why he jumped off a bridge.

[PublicOption]

fags are really depressed individuals that got molested by a same sex pedophile when they were minors.

[Stringer_Bell]

why can you understand? if he's that ashamed of getting his ass pounded, then maybe he shouldn't get his ass pounded and be something he is ashamed of.

Or maybe, JUST MAYBE, he enjoyed getting his ass pounded but society has a stigma on man on man ass pounding, and he was scared of what the world might think of him...not because he was ashamed, but because of how he'd be judged because of it. That puts the blame on society for being so close minded to man on man ass pounding.

[silverblk mystix]

Or maybe, JUST MAYBE, he enjoyed getting his ass pounded but society has a stigma on man on man ass pounding, and he was scared of what the world might think of him...not because he was ashamed, but because of how he'd be judged because of it. That puts the blame on society for being so close minded to man on man ass pounding.

Kinda have to agree with the points you have made so far.

I would add that if there were to be something to blame society for-it would be to blame society for not having any kind of training/schooling for kids on how to feel, how to deal with emotions.

I mean, we go to school and learn about all kinds of subjects-but no-one teaches kids on how to deal with rejection,ridicule jealousies,pettiness,etc...

This kid -like most of us growing up- was convinced of one thing;
That it is very important to have society's approval and that it was important to have a decent reputation ---IN ORDER to be happy.

The key words there-in order to be happy-is where I blame society.
Because, although there is nothing wrong with being approved by peers,parents,etc and nothing wrong with having a decent reputation...it is not necessary to have these things to be happy.

But does anyone tell you that. No.

They tell you that you NEED---money,success, prestige...in order to be happy.

We all have a list of things that we feel we won't be happy without.

This kid felt certain-that once his reputation was destroyed--and once his sexual orientation was revealed...he felt for certain..that he was destroyed too.

And that was a false belief-an illusion that he swallowed --that convinced him to end his life.

But he ended his own life. He was the one that subscribed to society's rules.
Unfortunately.

[Sisk]

it's pretty simple people, don't do things that you're so ashamed of that you'd kill yourself if people found out. it's just like women who spread their fucking legs and act like a whore, then get mad when people call them a whore. if the shoe fits..

This post is fucking retarded.

[BlackSwordsMan]

He must have had a tiny dick if he killed himself over a sex tape

[easjer]

There are a lot of aspects to this - it's not as simple as not doing something to be ashamed of. That's true enough if you are in public - but he wasn't. He was in private - or believed himself to be.

It's possible that while he was gay, and ok with that, that he felt it might be a stigma. Perhaps there were friends or family who would look down on him if he were openly gay. Perhaps he was experimenting to find out whether or not he was really homo(or bi)sexual. Perhaps he was raised to believe that homosexuality is inherently wrong and that he had a deeply seated conflict because of his homosexual desires, and the airing of the tape was forcing him to confront something he wasn't ready to confront. Or perhaps it was nothing to do with his sexuality and everything to do with his privacy being invaded at a time when he was already terrible fragile about something else.

Maybe the problem as he faced it seemed utterly insurmountable - from the outside without whatever complications were occurring in his head, it wasn't *that* big a deal. Awful and horrible and whatever, but not worth suicide for a lot of us. But if you are already depressed - that could seem like something completely and utterly intolerable.

It was an awful, rash decision he made, which is so unfortunate. That it seems to have been precipitated by his roommate's cruel invasion of privacy is extremely unfortunate for both of them.

[jack sommerset]

LoL@ the other gay guy in the video that didn't kill himself!

[theInternet]

He must have had a tiny dick if he killed himself over a sex tape

B2B didn't.

[MannyIsGod]

Agree with many. Completely shitty thing to do by his roommate. But the kid committing suicide is on himself. People get humiliated everyday to varying degrees. If you choose to kill yourself over humiliation, in my opinion, that's more on you than on anyone who humiliated you.

As a side, we're going to see more and more bad things to come from technological advances like youtube and facebook and the like. I think it's just the tip of the iceberg. I gotta believe criminals share ideas and experiences online already. I wouldn't be surprised if hate groups have videotaped and broadcasted beatings or even murders. I've seen a few episodes on Law & Order with cases of murders or sex crimes that were directly or indirectly related to the internet and sharing aspects of the crime on the internet.

Dude you're like a decade behind. Things such as the anarchists cookbook have been online for over 20 years now. As for broadcast murders its all been done. Look up Budd Dwyer; broadcast violence really predates the internet by a good number of years.

[MannyIsGod]

I mean, we go to school and learn about all kinds of subjects-but no-one teaches kids on how to deal with rejection,ridicule jealousies,pettiness,etc...


When a child is born we should assign someone to care for it and teach it these kind of things. In fact, we could make it the people who fathered the child.

Oh shit, we can even call them parents!

[MannyIsGod]

That CC story is fairly disgusting. I never had a shitty roomate (in fact only people I roomed with that I wasn't dating were my best friends - some of my favorite times ever) but I'd imagine someone would have to be a fucking nazi for me to do that to them.

God damn.

[I Cut]

OK, we all agree this went beyond an innocent roommate prank....but how many of you have ever had a roommate you couldn't stand? I lived in the dorm my first year in college and had a real turd for a roommate the first semester...but he HATED me...he was a virgin and couldn't get laid to save his ass and I was always kicking him out of the room...best prank I pulled on him was after picking up this hottie at a bar when he was home for the weekend...she was really nice to look at but had some definite feminine hygiene issues...not bad enough to throw her out, but definitely an issue...I grabbed my roommates pillow and put it under her ass so she could get her knees over my shoulders and I could have some leverage (also to keep her from dripping on my sheets LOL) After she left I just put his pillow back on his bed...LMAO That fucking pillow REEKED. He came back Sunday night and sat down on his bed and was like *sniff*.....*sniff* sniff*....he's looking all around...I'm hiding under my blankets trying not to laugh...he finally gets his nose down on his bed and starts "sniff"sniff"sniffing" around...picks his pillow up and buries his nose in it and give it a couple of "SNIFF*SNIFF*'s...he was like EEEEUW WTF happened to my pillow? He finally ended up ,throwing it away...

This is something i would really reconsider sharing.

[CosmicCowboy]

That CC story is fairly disgusting. I never had a shitty roomate (in fact only people I roomed with that I wasn't dating were my best friends - some of my favorite times ever) but I'd imagine someone would have to be a fucking nazi for me to do that to them.

God damn.

Manny, he actually WAS a skinhead nazi LOL. He was from Vidor and his goal in life was to get a law enforcement degree and go back home and be a deputy sheriff. He was dumb as a fucking brick. He was taking 12 hours and failing (he flunked out after the second semester) I was playing rugby, taking 21 hours and making A's without studying much. He was taking this martial arts class and was always fucking with me with his nun-chucks when I came in stoned. I may be a sick bastard but I still think it was funny...

[RoddyBukkake]

What a fucking faggot! :lmao

[thispego]

fags are really depressed individuals that got molested by a same sex pedophile when they were minors.

[Horn Tooter]

Manny, he actually WAS a skinhead nazi LOL. He was from Vidor and his goal in life was to get a law enforcement degree and go back home and be a deputy sheriff. He was dumb as a fucking brick. He was taking 12 hours and failing (he flunked out after the second semester) I was playing rugby, taking 21 hours and making A's without studying much. He was taking this martial arts class and was always fucking with me with his nun-chucks when I came in stoned. I may be a sick bastard but I still think it was funny...

Damn! Do you ever stop?

[Darrin]

Sad as hell. I'm glad the roommate's probably going to prison.

...That said, I don't understand the person who kills themselves over being exposed for who they are or over an isolated incident. Maybe he had other demons and this shit was the straw that broke his back (no pun) and obviously, being forcefully and publicly outed was a disgusting and devastating thing for this guy to deal with, but dude, life would've gone on. Very tragic and unnecessary.

It's about social rejection. This is a student at a major university which means that he's had to bust his rump to get there and he's looking to impress someone. That's a lot stress and you can become hypersensitive to how things will look in the future, to trying to keep all the doors open. Failure and losing is not something that is accepted with that kind of pressure. You have to be a well-rounded student. He's also young and so losing is new to him, especially something like this. And he does see it as a loss. Hell, President Clinton couldn't handle this type of situation.

This culture of a lack of acceptance drives me nuts because it kills people!!! I won't live and let live until that stops because the opposing view comes with a body count. To quote someone out of context in a USA Today article on this incident with the angle of social media slamming everyone for living online, "Would it have made a difference if he were with a woman?"

The answer to that question is yes. He would gain more social status for that. This is something that follows him. He's looking to impress people. His self-esteem is tied to how he's perceived in school. It was devastating. It would be for anyone in his position. Would we all take the leap off the bridge? No. But we would need support at that time in friends and family. If they reject him, it makes it easier to do it.

[Cock-n-balls]

LOL gimme a break...I was 18 years old and a walking hard on. I was not about to say..."Damn, girl, you have the body of a goddess but your fucking snatch smells like tuna fish...cover that shit up and get the fuck out of here"....I banged the shit out of her and THEN told her to GTFO.

Motherfuck! I would've told her to take her stanky ass home and clean out that business. Hot or not. Stank is stank and that's never cool. How long did your dick smell after that happened? Please don't say you ate her out.

[boutons_deux]

Some adults and orgs are very serious and commited to defending gay bullying and the resulting deaths

– The American Family Association of Michigan has spent years decrying a proposed anti-bullying measure as “a Trojan Horse to sneak [homosexual activists'] special rights agenda into law” and to “legitimize homosexual behavior” which is “a practice scientifically proven to result in a dramatically higher incidence of domestic violence, mental illness, illegal drug use, promiscuity, life-threatening disease, and premature death.” The bill “died in 2008 in the state Senate because senators could not agree” on whether to address bullying based on sexual orientation and gender identity in the measure.

– In Minnesota, Republican gubernatorial candidate Tom Emmer said he would not sign the anti-bullying Safe Schools For All bill because “I don’t want the government” instead of parents to be on “the front line of defense of our children.” Indeed, Emmer voted against and Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R) vetoed the same bill in 2009 after the right-wing Minnesota Family Council pushed legislators to reject the bill in 2009 because it would “promote acceptance of homosexuality.”

– The right-wing Christian media ministry Focus on the Family is attacking an anti-bullying standard on the federal level. Insisting that bullying prevention is being “hijacked by activists” who are “politicizing or sexualizing the issue,” Focus on the Family’s Candi Cushman claims that the anti-bullying bill currently before Congress “cater[s] to a narrow political agenda” that “becomes a gateway for homosexuality promotion in school.” In their current back-to-school guide “equipping” parents with tools against the “sneaky” gay agenda, Cushman told parents to look out for bullying seminars, diversity lessons, and “cute little pictures of furry animals” as “red flags” signaling the “gay agenda.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/02/anti-gay-bullying/

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American hate-filled, Bible-thumping "Christians", what's not to love? :lol

[I Cut]

Motherfuck! I would've told her to take her stanky ass home and clean out that business. Hot or not. Stank is stank and that's never cool. How long did your dick smell after that happened? Please don't say you ate her out.

[Wild Cobra]

I'm as liberal as it gets, but I think an issue here that schools need to start addressing is rooming openly gay students with straight students in the dorms, it lends itself to disasters like this. At this point all schools have a system that is used for random roommate assignment, it wouldn't be very hard to add to it and make all people who sign up for random roommate assignment answer if they are either gay, straight and comfortable rooming with someone who is gay, or straight and uncomfortable rooming with someone who is gay. Maybe the kid who filmed it is just a misunderstood clown who woulda secretly filmed a straight roommate having sex, but the chances of that are slim. The way schools just recklessly room two people figuring that they can figure out their differences regardless of what they are is stupid. As a Jew who was roomed with a Paki my freshman year who smelled like shit and openly stated his disdain for Israel being a country, I was in a similar situation.
This situation had nothing to do with him being gay. The roommate is on record saying he would have done the same filming between a heterosexual couple.

[Stringer_Bell]

LoL@ the other gay guy in the video that didn't kill himself!

Yea, I'm wondering about this too. He is a alleged to be an older man that is not a student at Rutgers, yet no one seems to be able to identify him. Perhaps he and the dead gay guy had a fight? Maybe some sort of STD discussion? I dunno, a smart kid is going to know it's not the end of the world unless there's a damn good reason to think it's the end of the world. Getting rammed in the butt on camera, when that's something you like, is not the end of the world. There's some questions that need to be answered.

[howbouthemspurs]

What a dick head! What type of Fag records two guys having sex and broadcasts it?...oh yeah... a really fucking gay Fist in his ass type of Fag!! He should end his own life as well! Worthless piece of shit is breathing up our polluted oxygen.

[boutons_deux]

The roommate is on record saying he would have done the same filming between a heterosexual couple.

After the filming or before?

After the filming, he's just lying to save his ass.

[BlackSwordsMan]

if this guy was smart he would have kept the videos and black mailed the gay dude later on in life

[Wild Cobra]

After the filming or before?

After the filming, he's just lying to save his ass.
Is it unbelievable? I tend to believe it. Most young people today don't have hard feelings about gays. Am I right or wring about that?

You want me to say I could be wrong about my opinion? OK, you have that. Still, I do believe he would have recorded a roommate having sex with a female as well.

[pawe]

What a dick head! What type of Fag records two guys having sex and broadcasts it?...oh yeah... a really fucking gay Fist in his ass type of Fag!! He should end his own life as well! Worthless piece of shit is breathing up our polluted oxygen.

Must be a 4channer. He did it for the lulz.

[Purch]

I don't know what to think about this situation.

[TheHeatIsOn]

Gay people dont deserve to live

[Stringer_Bell]

There's something not right about the story the media is pushing about this guy being "bullied to death." I think the truth is starting to come to light even though there's still tons of questions...

http://gawker.com/5651659/is-this-webcam-spying-victim-tyler-clementis-last-call-for-help

He seemed calm and focused on fixing the situation, but at peace with the idea that not much could come of it. He also doesn't come across as egocentric or a drama queen - he had so much going for him and didn't seem like he wanted to kill himself at all. At the very least, those two kids they are prosecuting shouldn't get hate crime or murder charges, just invasion of privacy (if anything).

I think they need to track down the dude that he was bringing to his room. It's always bugged me that they reported the kid dead, "bullied to death," before they even found his body. Meh.

[mabrignani]

one less faggot in america!

[Purch]

:bang