Hamburgers are just like heroin

[DarrinS]

Time for another inappropriate left-wing PSA.

The same people that want to legalize drugs want to make hamburgers illegal. Amazing.

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[boutons_deux]

It's really an ad against fast food, since most hamburgers consumed are fast food crap.

If you choose your own ingredients, esp Real Meat, then a hamburger is harmless. Hardly anybody does that anymore.

[TeyshaBlue]

Considering the national obesity rate, I'd say this was not a big surprise.
I didn't see anywhere in the PSA where hamburgers should be illegal.
Comparing them to heroine is a bit of a stretch as well....but the underlying message is valid.

[boutons_deux]

There was a study recently that showed people have a very hard time giving up fast food crap, which has been engineered with salt/grease/sugar/chemicals to be tasty. If you think the industrial food-like substances industry is just trying to give give a quality product, you're a fool.

The difficulty was likened to an addiction, which was probably the motivation for this ad.

[coyotes_geek]

Time for another inappropriate left-wing PSA.

The same people that want to legalize drugs want to make hamburgers illegal. Amazing.

6P-4bzj9sdI

I must have missed the inappropriate part..........

Apparantely I also missed the part where someone is advocating outlawing hamburgers.......

[George Gervin's Afro]

Time for another inappropriate left-wing PSA.

The same people that want to legalize drugs want to make hamburgers illegal. Amazing.

6P-4bzj9sdI

many people want to legalize a drug.. not drugs.. another MAJOR FAILURE by darrins

[MannyIsGod]

Considering the national obesity rate, I'd say this was not a big surprise.
I didn't see anywhere in the PSA where hamburgers should be illegal.
Comparing them to heroine is a bit of a stretch as well....but the underlying message is valid.

Its surprising to me that Darrin of all the people on this board is unfamiliar with hyperbole.

[MannyIsGod]

There was a study recently that showed people have a very hard time giving up fast food crap, which has been engineered with salt/grease/sugar/chemicals to be tasty. If you think the industrial food-like substances industry is just trying to give give a quality product, you're a fool.

The difficulty was likened to an addiction, which was probably the motivation for this ad.

I really wish we had more studies like this because I think it is becoming well documented how companies like McDonalds do everything in their power to lock in a customer so young and keep them coming back forever.

I don't want to outlaw hamburgers since I love a good burger but I want fast food practices to be more out in the open.

[Oh, Gee!!]

hmmm, I know what I'm getting 4 lunch

[Drachen]

I really wish we had more studies like this because I think it is becoming well documented how companies like McDonalds do everything in their power to lock in a customer so young and keep them coming back forever.

I don't want to outlaw hamburgers since I love a good burger but I want fast food practices to be more out in the open.

Did they just do a bad job when we were younger manny? I am curious about this because I loved me a good happy meal when I was younger, but you couldn't pay me enough to eat there now. It changed right around the age of 10 or so.

[boutons_deux]

SFO, the hippie commies, are considering banning Happy Meals and other such junk food come-ons and promotions for kiddoes.

[TeyshaBlue]

SFO, the hippie commies, are considering banning Happy Meals and other such junk food come-ons and promotions for kiddoes.

I'm not a big fan of thought crimes. Kiddoes don't buy Happy Meals. Parents do.

[Spurminator]

The commercial is a bit heavy handed... There are a number of factors that lead to childhood obesity, only one of which is a poor diet.

Plenty of healthy kids enjoy an occasional happy meal after soccer practice. Comparing it to heroin, which is not okay in moderation or when combined with a decent level of exercise, is pretty silly.

[Spurminator]

The same people that want to legalize drugs want to make hamburgers illegal. Amazing.

:lmao

You should have just posted the video.

[coyotes_geek]

The commercial is a bit heavy handed... There are a number of factors that lead to childhood obesity, only one of which is a poor diet.

Plenty of healthy kids enjoy an occasional happy meal after soccer practice. Comparing it to heroin, which is not okay in moderation or when combined with a decent level of exercise, is pretty silly.

It's definitely heavy handed, but as a nation that's pretty much how we deserve to be treated. No doubt there's nothing wrong with the occasional post-practice happy meal, but that's not who the add is targeting.

[boutons_deux]

"number of factors that lead to childhood obesity, only one of which is a poor diet."

The overwhelming dominant factor is poor diet. Exercise isn't necessary to maintain lean weight and overall health. Good diet can do it all.

I'm for exercise to get fit, but most people can't/won't exercise enough to burn off excess/empty calories, so the only solution long-term is good diet, at any age.

The industrial food-like substances industry knows how to engineer/concoct their crap, how to market their crap, to get people hooked, to get their crap accepted as normal food. It's another total fraud by food-like corporations.

Heroin is a dramatic metaphor, obviously not meant to be scientifically/medically equivalent, but the addiction angle is accurate.

As I've said elsewhere, put bacon and cheese on a turd, and Americans will suck it down.

There's a corporate/lobbyist assault going on right now about the composition of the upcoming new food pyramid.

[Blake]

hamburgers are just a gateway food to french fries

once you snort a few mcfries you can kiss your free will goodbye.

[Spurminator]

It's definitely heavy handed, but as a nation that's pretty much how we deserve to be treated. No doubt there's nothing wrong with the occasional post-practice happy meal, but that's not who the add is targeting.

I think most people the ad is targeting will find the ad too over-the-top to be taken seriously. It diminishes the message. JMO.

[boutons_deux]

American Children Consuming Too Many Empty Calories

Journal of the American Dietetic Association that over half of all calories consumed by American kids are empty calories. The main reason is the excess consumption of high-calorie drinks and junk food.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/printerfriendlynews.php?newsid=203276

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The very probably applies to adults.

[MannyIsGod]

I agree with boutons. The biggest factor is diet. Its not just fast food though. Ever see how much of the food you buy has fucking high fructose corn syrup in it? I hate subsidizing corn farmers because this is what it gets you. Corn in fucking everything.

And its expensive as shit to eat healthy. If it weren't for the farmers markets here I know I couldn't go to whole foods and pay their prices to get healthier food as much. Its just ridiculous.

[Spurminator]

"number of factors that lead to childhood obesity, only one of which is a poor diet."

The overwhelming dominant factor is poor diet. Exercise isn't necessary to maintain lean weight and overall health. Good diet can do it all.

Feeding you kids organic wraps, protein shakes and salads while letting them sit on the couch all day watching TV isn't good for them. There is nothing wrong with giving your kid fast food or candy or marshmallow cereal on occasion, as long as it's balanced by exercise and other less-junky meals.


I'm for exercise to get fit, but most people can't/won't exercise enough to burn off excess/empty calories

Most kids will, unless they're trained from birth to be couch potatoes.

[MannyIsGod]

Feeding you kids organic wraps, protein shakes and salads while letting them sit on the couch all day watching TV isn't good for them. There is nothing wrong with giving your kid fast food or candy or marshmallow cereal on occasion, as long as it's balanced by exercise and other less-junky meals.



Most kids will, unless they're trained from birth to be couch potatoes.

But you miss the point that is your kid has a healthy diet but doesn't exercise he still doesn't become obese.

Lack of exercise isn't the leading cause of obesity. Diet is. Thats the point. Its not that not exercising is good for a kid.

Also, I think your last statement is false. If kids have a bad diet they won't automatically burn it off because they're kids who aren't couch potatoes.

[TeyshaBlue]

But you miss the point that is your kid has a healthy diet but doesn't exercise he still doesn't become obese.

Lack of exercise isn't the leading cause of obesity. Diet is. Thats the point. Its not that not exercising is good for a kid.

Also, I think your last statement is false. If kids have a bad diet they won't automatically burn it off because they're kids who aren't couch potatoes.

Also, that bad diet follows you and kicks your ass when your metabolism kicks down outta that neurotic teen gear.

[MannyIsGod]

Also, that bad diet follows you and kicks your ass when your metabolism kicks down outta that neurotic teen gear.

Yeah, found that out first hand right here.

All through my high school years and early 20s I played sports nearly every day. Was very very active. Was always stocky but never obese and I figured if I could stay in the gym 8 hours a day and be ready to go the next day for anther 8 hours then it really didn't matter what I ate.

Fast forward to late 20s when I've become much less active and BAM MannyIsAFatty. Now, I am active again and I cycle a lot and play some sports but I have to watch the shit out of what I eat in order to keep from gaining weight and actually lose some. Even so, losing it now is already harder than 10 years ago. I can only imagine how much harder it will be in 10 or 20 years. :(

Still - being heavier than those skinny Lance Armstrong wannabe's in their spandex and still flying past them on bike is satisfying as hell. :)

[Oh, Gee!!]

see what happens when you elect a socialist? burgers get outlawed.

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah but apparently heroin gets legalized! Win!

[Spurminator]

But you miss the point that is your kid has a healthy diet but doesn't exercise he still doesn't become obese.

Lack of exercise isn't the leading cause of obesity. Diet is. Thats the point. Its not that not exercising is good for a kid.

Also, I think your last statement is false. If kids have a bad diet they won't automatically burn it off because they're kids who aren't couch potatoes.

I have a hard time believing an inactive child with a healthy diet is any better off than an active kid who eats more than a normal amount of fast food but I'll take your word for it.

My main point is that the message as communicated in this ad leaves no room for moderation. Maybe a more effective analogy would have been a mother hooking her son up to a cheeseburger grease IV.

There are serious lifestyle issues driving the rise in obesity and an over-reliance on fast food menus (whether it's the biggest factor or not) is symptomatic of that. "Cheeseburgers = Bad" is not only a gross oversimplification of the problem, it's a standard that most families will be unwilling to even try to follow.

At least the ad does put the onus on the parent for once, though.

[MannyIsGod]

I have a hard time believing an inactive child with a healthy diet is any better off than an active kid who eats more than a normal amount of fast food but I'll take your word for it.

My main point is that the message as communicated in this ad leaves no room for moderation. Maybe a more effective analogy would have been a mother hooking her son up to a cheeseburger grease IV.

There are serious lifestyle issues driving the rise in obesity and an over-reliance on fast food menus (whether it's the biggest factor or not) is symptomatic of that. "Cheeseburgers = Bad" is not only a gross oversimplification of the problem, it's a standard that most families will be unwilling to even try to follow.

At least the ad does put the onus on the parent for once, though.

You have several good points but to be fair this ad wasn't going to change the way most people did shit anyway. Its going to take a much larger effort and while the money lies with huge corporations like McDonalds then I don't see that happening.

The onus is definitely on the parents and it should be. I don't believe we should stop fast food from being sold I just think we should be smarter and more educated as a society on the choices that we make.

I DO however, feel there needs to be 204982048240284092840984 times more transparency in the food industry as a whole. This has much more to do with grocery food than fast food.

Fast food gets the bad wrap, but really the junk food in stores is much worse to me.

[Spurminator]

Yeah but apparently heroin gets legalized! Win!

lol same people

[Stringer_Bell]

The same people that want to legalize drugs want to make hamburgers illegal. Amazing.

Put the guns and bibles down, no one is going to outlaw cheeseburgers are taxing Coke products, Mr. Hannity.

But yea, stupid commercial, especially the part where she cooks the heroin. The tone is SOOOOO dark, I doubt any parent takes what it says seriously or gives a fuck. I hate this while "War on Obesity" waste of time/money...it's not fast-food or TV's fault kids are fat fucks. I'd blame it more on early computer and hand-held game system use in combination w/ a bad diet.

[baseline bum]

They're really going about this the wrong way. There's nothing wrong with hamburgers. What parents really need to limit are the fries and the cokes. Does McDonalds offer different combinations for their Happy Meals? I know Burger King will let you substitute sliced apples for fries in their kids meals.

[MannyIsGod]

Soda is the worst by far. High Fructose Corn Syrup!!!

[Winehole23]

http://computerrepairdirtcheap.com/p7lsm_img_2/fullsize/hippies_use_backdoor2_resize.jpg


Anti-hamburger and pro-hard drugs.

[Findog]

I didn't see anywhere in the PSA where hamburgers should be illegal.
.

You mean a conservative either is too dumb to grasp the point being made, or deliberately twisted it so he could knock down a strawman and avoid rebutting the argument being made on substantive terms? I'm shocked!

[rjv]

http://foodbeast.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/fastfoodmafia-jack-ronald-colonel.jpg

[TeyshaBlue]

Soda is the worst by far. High Fructose Corn Syrup!!!

I'm completely in love with Dublin Dr. Pepper. I <3 sugar!

The Pepsi throwback was pretty good too.:lobt:

I'm also quite possibly the worst behaved diabetic ever too.:lol

[LnGrrrR]

Mountain Dew throwback is pretty good.

Also, you think those commercials are bad? You should see the Hawaii "Don't do meth" commercials. They make every meth addict looks like an extra from a Saw movie.

[elbamba]

I agree with boutons. The biggest factor is diet. Its not just fast food though. Ever see how much of the food you buy has fucking high fructose corn syrup in it? I hate subsidizing corn farmers because this is what it gets you. Corn in fucking everything.

And its expensive as shit to eat healthy. If it weren't for the farmers markets here I know I couldn't go to whole foods and pay their prices to get healthier food as much. Its just ridiculous.

Its not as expensive as you think. Almost every store sells some type of a product without High Fructose Corn Syrup or MSG. It takes a little longer the first couple of times you specifically look for it but eventually you know all the brands and its no problem at all.

We started paying attention about three years ago and we feed a family of five without ever buying HFCS or MSG.

We also get our produce without any major expense to the budget. If you can give up giving empty calories through packages cookies, crackers and candy and just give celery and carrots you will not spend that much more on produce.

We also bake our treats so when my kids get cake, cookies, etc, it is all natural. No margerine or fake crap for the kids, everything, from the cake itself to th frosting can be made with all natural ingredients.

It takes time at first, but becomes very easy after awhile. I work a 60+ hour a week job, but together with my wife have great meals for the kiddos and for us. Fast food happens maybe once every 2-3 months. Eating out, even at nice places isn't as attractive as it used to be because our food tastes so good.

[elbamba]

Time for another inappropriate left-wing PSA.

The same people that want to legalize drugs want to make hamburgers illegal. Amazing.

6P-4bzj9sdI

One of the major problems our country faces and we all pay higher health care as a result is the obesity problem. Its only getting worse as there are more and more fat kids whose parents just don't give a damn.

I would much rather we take the time and even the pressure to force people into eating healthy so that I don't have to pay for their health care when they have diabetes at 40 and can no longer work.

[DarrinS]

They're really going about this the wrong way. There's nothing wrong with hamburgers. What parents really need to limit are the fries and the cokes. Does McDonalds offer different combinations for their Happy Meals? I know Burger King will let you substitute sliced apples for fries in their kids meals.


Bingo!

But, the bottom line is, we don't need a nanny state telling us what we can/can't eat. Geez, just put the information out there and let people make their own informed choices. No need make parents think they're giving their kids heroin.

[4>0rings]

They make every meth addict looks like an extra from a Saw movie.
Have you seen meth users? They usually look like that.

[DarrinS]

One of the major problems our country faces and we all pay higher health care as a result is the obesity problem. Its only getting worse as there are more and more fat kids whose parents just don't give a damn.

I would much rather we take the time and even the pressure to force people into eating healthy so that I don't have to pay for their health care when they have diabetes at 40 and can no longer work.


the fuck?

[4>0rings]

http://www.geekologie.com/2009/03/01/pizza%20burger%201.jpg

[CuckingFunt]

I think it's good to put the onus on parents more than it has been, but I don't know that I support demonizing parents (all parents, across the board) to the extent of comparing a trip through the drive-thru to giving your toddler IV drugs.

Are there parents who allow too much fast food out of sheer laziness? Sure. But there are also plenty of parents out there -- and I'm thinking single parents, here, or double income households, for whom time and money are legitimate considerations -- who probably just aren't either aware enough of just how harmful a fast food diet is or who aren't aware/prepared with quick and cheap healthy meal options (speaking from experience there, because while I don't have kids, I know the ONLY time I go for fast food or something as bad is when I'm really broke and/or really in a hurry and don't have anything at the ready at home). Eating healthier costs more and takes longer, unless you specifically set time aside in your schedule for cooking nightly or in advance, and I think it's both unfair and ineffective to paint so negative a picture of parents who may be well intentioned but unaware of their options.

Ultimately, though, I think that energy and outrage would be put to better use by going after the producers of horrible food themselves. Fast food isn't inherently evil. There are plenty of fast food restaurants -- various small/local chains I'm sure we all know -- that focus on fresh, quality ingredients. The outrage should be less about mom's feeding their kids a hamburger and more about McDonald's feeding all of us fake food.

[LnGrrrR]

Have you seen meth users? They usually look like that.

To be honest, can't say I've met too many. The commercials sure are good at shock value, that's for sure.

Check some of these out:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hawaii+anti+meth&aq=f

9aQ6qo_q0_U&p=28E906FB6883C92C&playnext=1&index=9

[LnGrrrR]

Also, I can't embed youtube for crap. If someone reminds me how to do it, I'll edit the link.

[Blake]

http://www.geekologie.com/2009/03/01/pizza%20burger%201.jpg

I bet that's at least 175 calories.....maybe more

[Blake]

Also, I can't embed youtube for crap. If someone reminds me how to do it, I'll edit the link.

[youtube]letters[/yootoob]

[CuckingFunt]

I bet that's at least 175 calories.....maybe more

I'm going to be bold and guess 220.

And at least, like, 15 grams of fat.

[LnGrrrR]

[youtube]letters[/yootoob]

Thanks, couldn't remember where we had to cut the link at.

[Winehole23]

the fuck?Your irresponsible diet choices affect elbamba's bottom line. He seems to be calling for a government thin-tervention.

[Blake]

He seems to be calling for a government thin-tervention.

that's so badly good i loled.

crap.

[4>0rings]

To be honest, can't say I've met too many. The commercials sure are good at shock value, that's for sure.

Check some of these out:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hawaii+anti+meth&aq=f

9aQ6qo_q0_U&p=28E906FB6883C92C&playnext=1&index=9
:lmao I don't know about going physco on people like that for their fix but their face turns like that though after years of steady using.

[ElNono]

Excerpt from here (http://www.thatsfit.com/2010/03/30/fast-food-is-like-heroin-studies-find/)

The latest study, published March 28 in "Nature Neuroscience," likened the affects of high-fat, high-calorie fast food to those of cocaine or heroin, in animals at least.

The researchers showed that the pleasure-center in rats brains were overstimulated from the fast food similar to an addict's cocaine binge. Eventually, the pleasure centers became so overloaded that rats needed more and more food to feel normal, according to Paul H. Kenny, an associate professor of molecular therapeutics at the Scripps Research Institute.

Throughout the study, Kenny and his co-author studied three groups of lab rats for 40 days. The first group ate healthy food. The second ate a limited amount of junk food. The third group, however, was allowed to gorge on high-fat, high-calorie foods and became obese.

The startling side effect? The brains of the obese rats changed.

"The body adapts remarkably well to change -- and that's the problem," Kenny said in a press release. "When the animal overstimulates its brain pleasure centers with highly palatable food, the systems adapt by decreasing their activity. However, now the animal requires constant stimulation from palatable food to avoid entering a persistent state of negative reward".
During the study, the rats lost complete control over the ability to regulate whether they were hungry, often eating despite electric shocks. When the obese rats were put on a healthy diet, they refused to eat, starving themselves for two weeks.

[Winehole23]

^^^ full circle :lol

[Marcus Bryant]

All the more reason for individuals/families to be responsible for obtaining their own health care services, no?

[ElNono]

All the more reason for individuals/families to be responsible for obtaining their own health care services, no?

For those individuals/families that can actually afford to live eating fast food, sure.

[Marcus Bryant]

Right. Everyone's a victim.

[LnGrrrR]

:lmao I don't know about going physco on people like that for their fix but their face turns like that though after years of steady using.

Wow, did not know that, crazy stuff.

And there's a series of those types of commercials; one stars a kid getting beat up in an alley and musing about how he wishes he was robbed, beat up, etc etc instead of making it to the party where he tried meth for the first time.

I'd say they definitely send a strong message. I thought it was a bit hyperbolic, but if you're saying it isn't, that makes the message somewhat stronger among those who've seen the results firsthand.

[LnGrrrR]

Excerpt from here (http://www.thatsfit.com/2010/03/30/fast-food-is-like-heroin-studies-find/)

The latest study, published March 28 in "Nature Neuroscience," likened the affects of high-fat, high-calorie fast food to those of cocaine or heroin, in animals at least.

The researchers showed that the pleasure-center in rats brains were overstimulated from the fast food similar to an addict's cocaine binge. Eventually, the pleasure centers became so overloaded that rats needed more and more food to feel normal, according to Paul H. Kenny, an associate professor of molecular therapeutics at the Scripps Research Institute.

Throughout the study, Kenny and his co-author studied three groups of lab rats for 40 days. The first group ate healthy food. The second ate a limited amount of junk food. The third group, however, was allowed to gorge on high-fat, high-calorie foods and became obese.

The startling side effect? The brains of the obese rats changed.

"The body adapts remarkably well to change -- and that's the problem," Kenny said in a press release. "When the animal overstimulates its brain pleasure centers with highly palatable food, the systems adapt by decreasing their activity. However, now the animal requires constant stimulation from palatable food to avoid entering a persistent state of negative reward".
During the study, the rats lost complete control over the ability to regulate whether they were hungry, often eating despite electric shocks. When the obese rats were put on a healthy diet, they refused to eat, starving themselves for two weeks.

I'd say the study is a bit misleading... after all, various activities can activate a pleasure center in the brain and technically have the same results.

That whole "obese rats starving themselves" thing is quite interesting though.

If you want to "reboot" your taste buds, you can always go on a "water diet" for three days or so, and let your body go into ketosis temporarily. (Note: It takes away some muscle mass before it starts kicking into fat-burning mode.) If you go back to sugar immediately, it tends to taste way too sweet.

[ElNono]

Right. Everyone's a victim.

Not everyone, no.

[ElNono]

I'd say the study is a bit misleading... after all, various activities can activate a pleasure center in the brain and technically have the same results.

That whole "obese rats starving themselves" thing is quite interesting though.

If you want to "reboot" your taste buds, you can always go on a "water diet" for three days or so, and let your body go into ketosis temporarily. (Note: It takes away some muscle mass before it starts kicking into fat-burning mode.) If you go back to sugar immediately, it tends to taste way too sweet.

I'm just the messenger... but I assume that's what the OP's video was probably pointing at.

[LnGrrrR]

I'm just the messenger... but I assume that's what the OP's video was probably pointing at.

Hey, if people want to spend money to scare kids off fast food, that's fine with me. Free market and all that. Neuroresearch has certainly given us a lot of interesting insights into the human mind and how it works, and nearly demolished the idea that rationality is the major driving factor of why people do what they do.

[4>0rings]

FWIW: SF wants to ban toys from Happy Meals if it doesn't offer healthier choices

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39510045/


Happy Meal ban
Proposal wouuld not allow toys unless more fruits, vegetables included
advertisement | ad info


updated 41 minutes ago

SAN FRANCISCO — San Francisco lawmakers have given preliminary approval to a law that would prohibit fast-food restaurants from putting toys in children's meals unless they include fruits and vegetables and don't have too many unhealthy calories.
A committee of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors voted 3-0 Monday to pass the proposed ordinance on to the full board. Santa Clara County supervisors adopted a similar law in April that banned all fast-food freebies.
Story: In activist S.F., McDonald's Happy Meal is latest target
Several doctors testified in favor of the San Francisco law. One recalled seeing children in hospital waiting rooms carrying McDonald's Happy Meals.
Under Supervisor Eric Mar's proposal, McDonald's and other restaurants could only include toys in meals that have a half-cup each of fruit and vegetables and limited amounts of sugar, sodium and fat.
Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

[Drachen]

http://www.geekologie.com/2009/03/01/pizza%20burger%201.jpg

Fuck, what a lame burger, no fried breading or anything.

[DarrinS]

Hamburger and fries: 459 cals, 9.6g fat.

Chicken and bacon salad with ranch dressing: 697 cals, 28.1g fat.

[Drachen]

Hamburger and fries: 459 cals, 9.6g fat.

Chicken and bacon salad with ranch dressing: 697 cals, 28.1g fat.

Umm yeah. It's bacon and ranch. Bacon is the tastiest meat their is, and the worst their is. Ranch on the other hand, well the really easy rule is to stay away from white sauces.

[MannyIsGod]

Hamburger and fries: 459 cals, 9.6g fat.

Chicken and bacon salad with ranch dressing: 697 cals, 28.1g fat.

Its amazing how you just proved that hamburgers are healthier than salads.

Also, who was seeking to ban hamburgers that you're so worried about the nanny state?

[TeyshaBlue]

Hamburger and fries: 459 cals, 9.6g fat.

Chicken and bacon salad with ranch dressing: 697 cals, 28.1g fat.

459 Calories? What is it? A micro -burger?:wow

[rjv]

Hey, if people want to spend money to scare kids off fast food, that's fine with me. Free market and all that. Neuroresearch has certainly given us a lot of interesting insights into the human mind and how it works, and nearly demolished the idea that rationality is the major driving factor of why people do what they do.

not sure where you're getting that from. i've done some cataloging for the brain mapping project and some work over at TNI as well and i am not aware of any universal acceptance of such a premise within the field. there are certainly schools of thought that advocate such a belief but there are just as many that do not. if anything; neuroscience, epistemology, cognitive science and studies on consciousness are just now getting their feet on the ground. there is a lot more ground to cover.

[Blake]

Hamburger and fries: 459 cals, 9.6g fat.

Chicken and bacon salad with ranch dressing: 697 cals, 28.1g fat.

no idea where you pulled those numbers.

McDonald's little hamburger: 250 calories

McDonald's small fries: 230 calories

250+230=480 calories

http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/nutritionexchange/nutritionfacts.pdf

[TeyshaBlue]

no idea where you pulled those numbers.

McDonald's little hamburger: 250 calories

McDonald's small fries: 230 calories

250+230=480 calories

http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/nutritionexchange/nutritionfacts.pdf

That's what I thought....micro burger.:lol

[Blake]

That's what I thought....micro burger.:lol

yeah, maybe one that comes in a bucket o' burgers

[TeyshaBlue]

yeah, maybe one that comes in a bucket o' burgers

White Castle Cheeseburger....Caloriess: 155. Fat: 8.5g.

A bag o those nasty assed burgers will put a whoopin' on yer diet.:lol

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao @ Darrin using tiny burgers

[TeyshaBlue]

:lmao @ Darrin using tiny burgers

"Way out West....a story's told..." :lol

[MannyIsGod]

Everytime he makes posts like that the troll alarm goes off but he seems so damn sincere about it.

Honestly, I'be relieved if it were indeed a troll job because to have someone like Darrin out there is just sad.

[DJ Mbenga]

time to head out to in and out.

[boutons_deux]

"just put the information out there"

BigFood doesn't want usto see labels "has/doesn't have" GM, growth hormones, anti-biotics, chemicals like BPA, benzene, melamine, etc, etc. because they know intelligent shoppers would steer away from the perverse, synthetic shit whose only purpose is to increase BigFood's profits, not to make the food better or safe.

[LnGrrrR]

not sure where you're getting that from. i've done some cataloging for the brain mapping project and some work over at TNI as well and i am not aware of any universal acceptance of such a premise within the field. there are certainly schools of thought that advocate such a belief but there are just as many that do not. if anything; neuroscience, epistemology, cognitive science and studies on consciousness are just now getting their feet on the ground. there is a lot more ground to cover.

Rjv, that was probably too broad a characterization; thanks for the correction. I should say, many studies have seemingly disproven the idea of a perfectly rational actor, which many economics use as a given.

[rjv]

Rjv, that was probably too broad a characterization; thanks for the correction. I should say, many studies have seemingly disproven the idea of a perfectly rational actor, which many economics use as a given.

now that makes perfect sense and i can definitely see how our baser instincts are the target of so many ads. now i'm off to buy that awesome looking sandwich at KFC that subs the chicken for the bread and is bathed in cheese and bacon.

[Drachen]

now that makes perfect sense and i can definitely see how our baser instincts are the target of so many ads. now i'm off to buy that awesome looking sandwich at KFC that subs the chicken for the bread and is bathed in cheese and bacon.

Is it because of their new ad campaigns on college campuses that pay sorority girls to wear sweatpants or skirts, etc that says KFC double down on their asses?

[LnGrrrR]

Is it because of their new ad campaigns on college campuses that pay sorority girls to wear sweatpants or skirts, etc that says KFC double down on their asses?

Excuse me, but if you're going to post wild theories like that, you'll need to provide some (visual) evidence. :lol

[rjv]

Is it because of their new ad campaigns on college campuses that pay sorority girls to wear sweatpants or skirts, etc that says KFC double down on their asses?

well i would follow that kind of billboard to KFC. of course, if these human billboards start eating the advertised product those sweatpants may have to start changing to extra large.

[Drachen]

Excuse me, but if you're going to post wild theories like that, you'll need to provide some (visual) evidence. :lol

KFC pays college women for ad space on buns - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/2010-09-22-kfc22_ST_N.htm)

Not the greatest examples, butt you get the idea.

[DarrinS]

time to head out to in and out.


Damn. I miss that place.

[Blake]

Damn. I miss that place.

is that where they sell the 459 calorie burger and fry combo?

[DarrinS]

is that where they sell the 459 calorie burger and fry combo?

You're like some kind of ramora that's permanently attached to my nutsack.

[Blake]

You're like some kind of ramora that's permanently attached to my nutsack.

do you often have ramoras attaching themselves to your nutsack?

maybe you should throw them a 459 burger fry combo to get them off

[TeyshaBlue]

do you often have ramoras attaching themselves to your nutsack?

maybe you should throw them a 459 burger fry combo to get them off

*googling Ramora*


:wow:wow:wow

[LnGrrrR]

*googling Ramora*


:wow:wow:wow

NSFW eh? :lol

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao

Ramora fail.

[DarrinS]

And, for the fuckturds that keep busting my balls on the calorie numbers:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1041265.ece





Tormented by nutritionists who worry about expanding waistlines and shareholders who fret about flattening sales, the fast-food chain is launching its biggest menu revolution in 30 years and making a grab for the £445 million-a-year prepared salad market.

By the end of this month, customers at the 1,235 McDonald’s restaurants will be offered the choice of adorning their grilled chicken salad with Caesar dressing (and croutons) or the lighter option of a drizzle of balsamic dressing.

However, anyone hoping that salad is the slimming option should read the nutritional information on the McDonald’s website, which reveals that simply switching from burger to salad will not help to shed the pounds.

A chicken Caesar salad with dressing and croutons contains 425 calories and 21.4g of fat, compared with 253 calories and 7.7g of fat in a standard hamburger. Add a portion of fries to your burger and the calorie count climbs to 459, but is still less fatty than the salad at 16.7g.

[MannyIsGod]

So you found numbers you liked and used them with realizing what you were using? No one is saying your numbers are wrong, they're simply pointing out you're comparing an adults salad to the same hamburger and fries that comes in a fucking happy meal.

I can't believe you think posting that article somehow changes why everyone is busting your (ramora coated) balls. Wait, check that, I can believe it.

[LnGrrrR]

Eh, I can see why DarrinS posted it, but when you think about it, is there anyone in the world who goes to McDonald's and just orders one of their regular hamburgers? Anyone? Heck even the meal has two in there.

[MannyIsGod]

I can see why he posted it too. He thought he was going to blow us all away with his brilliant statistic but as you pointed out who fucking eats that other than kids?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Well DarrinS being butthurt about an ad that negatively portrays burgers makes it rather obvious he's as fat as the other Republicans on this site.

[Blake]

And, for the fuckturds that keep busting my balls on the calorie numbers:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1041265.ece


the fast-food chain is launching its biggest menu revolution in 30 years and making a grab for the £445 million-a-year prepared salad market.


sounds like a big salad market.

I bet 459 calories is huge for a British burger.

continent fail.

[DarrinS]

Well DarrinS being butthurt about an ad that negatively portrays burgers makes it rather obvious he's as fat as the other Republicans on this site.

lol 5'10 180

[LnGrrrR]

lol 5'10 180

I don't see why that's inherently funny.

[DarrinS]

I don't see why that's inherently funny.

Dude called me fat.

[LnGrrrR]

Dude called me fat.

Do you think weighing 180 lbs at 5'10" is fat?

[DarrinS]

Do you think weighing 180 lbs at 5'10" is fat?


Hardly.

[TeyshaBlue]

I don't see why that's inherently funny.

180...that's my left leg.:lmao




No, I aint that fat.:ihit

[LnGrrrR]

Hardly.

Ah wait, you're 180 at 5'10". Misunderstood.