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monosylab1k

10-05-2010, 08:26 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101004/en_nm/us_superman

Meaning the movie will be entirely in slow motion and boring as hell.

leemajors

10-05-2010, 08:34 AM

not looking good. maybe it will have a mass of flying owls

monosylab1k

10-05-2010, 08:35 AM

I just love how every Snyder movie is advertised as "visionary" which is code for "he loves pointless slow motion shots"

CuckingFunt

10-05-2010, 08:36 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101004/en_nm/us_superman

Meaning the movie will be entirely in slow motion and boring as hell.

Or littered with CGI owls.
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8366/hooleposter.jpg

CuckingFunt

10-05-2010, 08:37 AM

not looking good. maybe it will have a mass of flying owls

Dammit. Knew I shouldn't have taken the time to get a picture.

benefactor

10-05-2010, 08:38 AM

Or littered with CGI owls.
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8366/hooleposter.jpg
I took my daugther to this over the weekend. It was completely predictable, but I've sat through much, much worse from a kids movie perspective.

Cock-n-balls

10-05-2010, 08:50 AM

That owl movie is an actual movie?

Spurminator

10-05-2010, 09:23 AM

Yeah that's cool and all but you missed the biggest news.

Goyer is writing the script, which, like "Superman Returns," is rumored to have a connection to Richard Donner's "Superman" films. In this case, it's the villain, General Zod.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i7b035dcf5d2c2ea748943e504d1d5404
ZOD!!!

http://www.bite.ca/bitedaily/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/terence-stamp-general-zod-c10101814.jpg

Spurminator

10-05-2010, 09:25 AM

Or, I guess under Snyder's direction it would be
ZZZZZZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHD!!!

TDMVPDPOY

10-05-2010, 09:27 AM

why are the villains in superman series are lame man....

MiamiHeat

10-05-2010, 10:45 AM

another superman?

so is this another reboot, 2-3 years after the failed superman returns reboot?

or a sequel to that reboot?

spurs_fan_in_exile

10-05-2010, 10:53 AM

"This is madness!"
"Madness? THIS IS SMALLVILLE!"

monosylab1k

10-05-2010, 11:15 AM

another superman?

so is this another reboot, 2-3 years after the failed superman returns reboot?

or a sequel to that reboot?

this is the reboot after the reboot. it's like how The Situation puts on The Shirt Before The Shirt except not at all.

BlairForceDejuan

10-05-2010, 11:20 AM

Snyder is probably the only guy they could have hired to get me to see a Superman movie.

DC is weaksauce but Snyder will bring the goods.

monosylab1k

10-05-2010, 11:23 AM

Snyder is probably the only guy they could have hired to get me to see a Superman movie.

DC is weaksauce but Snyder will bring the goods.

by "the goods" do you mean characters devoid of any real emotion and lots and lots of slow motion?

Blake

10-05-2010, 11:33 AM

Snyder is probably the only guy they could have hired to get me to see a Superman movie.

DC is weaksauce but Snyder will bring the goods.

Superman moving at lightspeed moving in slow motion seems to me would be the bads

it also seems to me Snyder would have been better at bringing the goods doing a dark Batman movie

I guess at least we don't have George Clooney bringing the uglies to batman any more.

Obstructed_View

10-05-2010, 11:57 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101004/en_nm/us_superman

Meaning the movie will be entirely in slow motion and boring as hell.

...and will likely feature Superman in a newly designed outfit where he is bare chested and oiled up.

CubanMustGo

10-05-2010, 12:02 PM

T H I S

I S

K r y p t a a a a a a a a a a a a n!

MannyIsGod

10-05-2010, 12:33 PM

by "the goods" do you mean characters devoid of any real emotion and lots and lots of slow motion?

If he makes another sex scene like the one in Watchman it'll be worth it.

Booharv

10-05-2010, 12:42 PM

I've never read the Watchmen comic books and heard kind of mixed reviews going in, and I ended up really liking Watchmen. Probably my low expectations and lack of knowledge of how good the comic was supposed to be helped. But I thought the psychology of the Dr. Manhattan character was interesting and the Comedian was pretty badass.

Spurminator

10-05-2010, 01:12 PM

If he makes another sex scene like the one in Watchman it'll be worth it.

I was just thinking that. We're long overdue for a gratuitous Superman/Lois love scene.

Spurminator

10-05-2010, 01:13 PM

I actually liked the way Snyder framed the shots and slow-motion in Watchmen to mirror the graphic novel. He may have done the same thing with 300, but since I hadn't read 300 when I saw it, I found it annoying in that film.

Mark in Austin

10-05-2010, 02:15 PM

Interesting. His next movie coming out is an original story called Suckerpunch (http://www.cruelfilms.com/), and looking at the trailer it will either be one of the most batshit crazy yet insanely cool movies released or just an unintelligible mess:

XSIetIg7O3M

Seriously. An insane asylum, samurai, world war 1 trenches, dragons, gangsters, and a burlesque show? If he can pull this off why not give him a shot at Superman?

Ed Helicopter Jones

10-05-2010, 02:48 PM

If he makes another sex scene like the one in Watchman it'll be worth it.

* just added Watchman to my Netflix list *

dickface

10-05-2010, 03:02 PM

Medvedenko

10-05-2010, 04:39 PM

It's a great choice and I welcome him donning the director's cape and actually doing something interesting with Superman.

What I'm more intrigued by is that Nolan is producing with a script by his bro and David Goyer. If you don't know....they wrote Dark Knight and Batman Begins.

benefactor

10-05-2010, 05:20 PM

If he makes another sex scene like the one in Watchman it'll be worth it.
I doubt that will happen. I just don't see them making an R-rated Superman.

MannyIsGod

10-05-2010, 05:23 PM

Yeah you're likely right about that.

AmericanPsycho

10-05-2010, 05:31 PM

When is Wonder Woman coming out?

leemajors

10-07-2010, 08:58 AM

if this is true, it's hilarious. Aaronovsky passed over because he likes to get things right and they need production to start in 2011 to avoid lawsuits. Snyder will direct anything:

http://io9.com/5657139/darren-aronofsky-offered-wolverine-2-wasnt-given-superman-because-the-scripts-a-mess

Drachen

10-07-2010, 09:28 AM

leemajors

10-07-2010, 10:48 AM

Let me ask, do yall really not like 300, or is it that considering the entire body of work of this director, you don't like him because he uses the same tricks over and over again. (as in 300 was great, but then when you saw Watchmen it pissed you off that it was the exact same format with different words)

I didn't really care for 300, it was boring. It would have been better animated. I thought Spartacus: Blood and Sand was way better, though equally cheesy.

Spurminator

10-07-2010, 10:51 AM

Let me ask, do yall really not like 300, or is it that considering the entire body of work of this director, you don't like him because he uses the same tricks over and over again. (as in 300 was great, but then when you saw Watchmen it pissed you off that it was the exact same format with different words)

I saw 300 first and didn't like it. When I saw Watchmen, I recognized the similar style but thought it was much more effective for that film.

CuckingFunt

10-07-2010, 10:58 AM

I liked 300. I've actually liked several of Snyder's films, and am looking forward to Sucker Punch.

I'm convinced the writing will continue to be the problem in making a good Superman film, though. No matter the director they choose, writers need to stop trying to give us a young Superman and an origin story. Yawn. We've had umpteen seasons of "Smallville" to satisfy whatever audience there is for that. And, seriously, is there anyone alive on this planet who doesn't know the Superman origin story? At least well enough to give a general synopsis? No. Make him older, go dark, cast Jon Hamm as Supes. Otherwise, be prepared for cheesy flop-ville.

Jokes and cheesy owls aside, Nolan and Snyder are really the only things about this reboot that even remotely interest me.

Spurminator

10-07-2010, 11:18 AM

I've seen him brought up before, but I agree Jon Hamm would be a perfect Superman. He has the comedic chops to pull off Clark Kent and the uber-masculinity needed for Superman.

TDMVPDPOY

10-07-2010, 11:39 AM

theres also going to be a spiderman reboot, fkn lame...

why is marvel allowing reboots when the original were a success, we dont need reboots or just go straight to dvd....

MannyIsGod

10-07-2010, 11:40 AM

Spurminator

10-07-2010, 11:50 AM

I don't know if I want to see a Superman with a drinking problem or a gratuitous violent streak.

I guess it makes sense for him to have some daddy issues... But the historical appeal of Superman has always been that he's such a freaking good guy. If it needs to be darker, perhaps the world around him should be darker - sort of a Gotham setting. Maybe Lois could be a little more of an Angelina Jolie type.

I'm thinking "Last Temptation of Superman" stuff. He has his demons, but he's not an asshole or a sympathetic bad guy, and he's not ultimately self-destructive.

leemajors

10-07-2010, 11:54 AM

Darker is almost always better for superhero films.

I still get a bad feeling when every studio wants to reboot every franchise "darker" just because of batman begins and dark knight.

hitmanyr2k

10-07-2010, 11:57 AM

theres also going to be a spiderman reboot, fkn lame...

why is marvel allowing reboots when the original were a success, we dont need reboots or just go straight to dvd....

Tobey Maguire isn't getting any younger so they're trying to inject new blood into the series. Sam Raimi had his run and I wouldn't mind seeing another take on Spider-man. I just hope they're not going to follow the Smallville teenybopper formula for these movies.

Spurminator

10-07-2010, 11:59 AM

I just hope they're not going to follow the Smallville teenybopper formula for these movies.

Doubt it. They tried it with Superman Returns and it didn't work.

Mark in Austin

10-07-2010, 02:28 PM

A couple more thoughts after the initial reaction:

My concern with Snyder is that I thought he was TOO deferential to the source material in Watchmen - one of the darkest comic adaptations yet. The movie didn't have any energy to me at all - it didn't draw me into the story. I felt like I was watching a documentary or a comic page by page or frame by frame, not a movie whose energy and story should flow from scene to scene. (And I think that of the few changes that were made, one of the main ones fails completely: transforming Viedt, supposedly the smartest person in the world that in the comic was portrayed as a well managed public image concealing a danger simmering below the surface, into an effete glam-rockesque enigma whose personality/look doesn't match up with his motivations or skills.)

Which is why I'm really hoping Suckerpunch is damn great. I've heard great things about the action and visual style of his animated film Legends of the Guardians. That would be Snyders last two films leading up to Superman that are dynamic stories.

The problem with Superman Returns wasn't that it wasn't dark enough. It wasn't interesting enough. A Lex Luthor retread story? Really? And really that's my same criticism with Snyder's Watchmen adaptation. I read Moore's story and I was completely absorbed by it. I watched the adaptation and was bored. In a lot of ways, Watchmen and Superman Returns were the same movie to me: A visually striking movie I wanted to like but upon watching never got me involved in the story and ultimately left me wanting... something else. More character / motivation development? Better pacing? Better energy? Something was off.

I really don't care how dark Superman is. Just make it interesting, and be true to the essence of the character. I don't care if you put an "S" on his chest or give him a red cape. But he needs to have a code he struggles with and ultimately sticks with like Nolan gave Batman. Nolan realized that in order for the story to work it has to be grounded in reality, no matter how fantastic some parts of the story are. For Superman, it think that means we need to see the internal struggle trying to reconcile being raised as a "normal" American kid with normal parents and having God-like abilities. To me that is the magic of the first two Christopher Reeve movies - he managed to make Superman interesting; the audience could identify with the character. Singer paid homage to the wrong part of Donner's movies. He focused on the same Lex Luthor plot line and pretty visuals. Instead he should have focused on Clark/Superman's human journey.

Superman is by nature not as dark a character as Batman, so to me the trick isn't just to make Superman darker. It's to make Clark/Superman an interesting character the audience will identify with.

TDMVPDPOY

10-07-2010, 02:57 PM

Superman is by nature not as dark a character as Batman, so to me the trick isn't just to make Superman darker. It's to make Clark/Superman an interesting character the audience will identify with.

as in a fagot emo in spiderman 3 with the emo look?

seriously superman isnt interesting, the villains are lame

BlairForceDejuan

10-07-2010, 05:08 PM

by "the goods" do you mean characters devoid of any real emotion and lots and lots of slow motion?

It's Superman brah. "Oh no! Not kryptonite!!! Must...reach...sun." Epic emotional conundrums right there for sure.

The action scenes in 300 were pretty epic. Snyder brings a unique visionary angle that I enjoy.

leemajors

10-07-2010, 05:40 PM

as in a fagot emo in spiderman 3 with the emo look?

seriously superman isnt interesting, the villains are lame

Stupid. You haven't read/seen much Superman. Luthor is overdone in movies, but he's far from lame. Darksied, Bizzaro, Brainiac, Doomsday, Zod...

CuckingFunt

10-07-2010, 07:11 PM

Just to be clear, when I suggested going dark it wasn't because I necessarily want to see a belligerent Superman with track marks. I just meant as opposed to teenybops and candy colors.

Mister Sinister

10-07-2010, 07:27 PM

Needs some Darkseid. Also, fuck yes, Zod.

hitmanyr2k

10-07-2010, 07:36 PM

I really don't care how dark Superman is. Just make it interesting, and be true to the essence of the character. I don't care if you put an "S" on his chest or give him a red cape. But he needs to have a code he struggles with and ultimately sticks with like Nolan gave Batman. Nolan realized that in order for the story to work it has to be grounded in reality, no matter how fantastic some parts of the story are. For Superman, it think that means we need to see the internal struggle trying to reconcile being raised as a "normal" American kid with normal parents and having God-like abilities. To me that is the magic of the first two Christopher Reeve movies - he managed to make Superman interesting; the audience could identify with the character. Singer paid homage to the wrong part of Donner's movies. He focused on the same Lex Luthor plot line and pretty visuals. Instead he should have focused on Clark/Superman's human journey.

Superman is by nature not as dark a character as Batman, so to me the trick isn't just to make Superman darker. It's to make Clark/Superman an interesting character the audience will identify with.

That's one thing that I liked about Spider-man 2 (the only Spider-man movie Raimi made that I really liked). He made Peter Parker the kind of everyman he was supposed to be and showed the consequences of him being a superhero...can't hold on to jobs, can't pay the bills, living in a shitty apartment, not being able to keep up with school, etc. Anyone that's had to work their way through college and been through a shitty job economy knows that kind of thing can wear on you when it starts piling on.

Mister Sinister

10-08-2010, 03:54 AM

That's one thing that I liked about Spider-man 2 (the only Spider-man movie Raimi made that I really liked). He made Peter Parker the kind of everyman he was supposed to be and showed the consequences of him being a superhero...can't hold on to jobs, can't pay the bills, living in a shitty apartment, not being able to keep up with school, etc. Anyone that's had to work their way through college and been through a shitty job economy knows that kind of thing can wear on you when it starts piling on.

Too bad we never got to see the consequences of mixing blondes, bridges, and Norman Osborn.

CuckingFunt

10-10-2010, 12:48 AM

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