FkLA
10-07-2010, 04:10 AM
Right off the bat I want to say Welcome to the good-spirited Better Robin debate. Please, only pure basketball reasoning to back up your opinion. No agendas, baby.
Scottie Pippen/ Kobe Bryant
Better #2 Guy?
Defensive Rebounding = Scottie
Man to man defense (very important keeps pressure of #1 guy) = Scottie
Team defense = Scottie by a mile
For those wondering, Scottie is also a 6 time champ trumping Kobe's 5 (or 2/3/4 depending on your source)*.
Scottie has never NOT gotten past the 1st round, much less NOT gotten past the regular season
Scottie won 3 in a row for the Bulls
Scottie then went on to win 3 in a row with the Bulls AGAIN
Scottie is 6 for 6 in the Finals
Scottie was the much better teammate, Top 20-30 player ever yet had no problem deferring to MJ
Am I saying it's a landslide? No not entirely, Kobe has a great resume with his four titles as a Robin**, although it may certainly seem like Scottie had the better career going off of the FACTS.
-Kobe was the better scorer (which doesn't make up for everything else Scottie is better at). Kobe averaged a couple more points than Scottie. This makes much more sense when you look a little deeper though. Something to remember is that Kobe got a lot of his points from simply being the trigger happy explosive scorer we all know, hardly ever getting his points off of the triangle offense itself. Not to mention he averaged about 10.75 more FGA than Scottie did for his career. Not chopping his legs off here, just stating a fact. :-)
-Bryant played in a more historic franchise with a winning tradition, yet Scottie was the better winner.
*00' Duncan was injured giving Kobe and the Lakers a free path to title.
02' is widely considered a sham, as it saw the Lakers receive 47 FTs in a 4th qtr of Game 7 against the Sacramento Royals.
09' Yao Ming out for Houston, Jameer Nelson for the Magic, Kevin Garnett for Boston, Manu Ginobili for the Spurs...lets just say the stars alligned themself for the Los Angeles Luckers.
**09' is not included, as it saw Kobe Bean Bryant lead a team to a title as a #1 for the first, and to this date, only time. Thanks in large part to facts previously stated but he lead the Lakers that year nonetheless. Note:00-03 were included as it saw him masterfully play Robin to Shaq's Batman. As was '10 where he was Robin to MVPau's Batman.
Scottie Pippen/ Kobe Bryant
Better #2 Guy?
Defensive Rebounding = Scottie
Man to man defense (very important keeps pressure of #1 guy) = Scottie
Team defense = Scottie by a mile
For those wondering, Scottie is also a 6 time champ trumping Kobe's 5 (or 2/3/4 depending on your source)*.
Scottie has never NOT gotten past the 1st round, much less NOT gotten past the regular season
Scottie won 3 in a row for the Bulls
Scottie then went on to win 3 in a row with the Bulls AGAIN
Scottie is 6 for 6 in the Finals
Scottie was the much better teammate, Top 20-30 player ever yet had no problem deferring to MJ
Am I saying it's a landslide? No not entirely, Kobe has a great resume with his four titles as a Robin**, although it may certainly seem like Scottie had the better career going off of the FACTS.
-Kobe was the better scorer (which doesn't make up for everything else Scottie is better at). Kobe averaged a couple more points than Scottie. This makes much more sense when you look a little deeper though. Something to remember is that Kobe got a lot of his points from simply being the trigger happy explosive scorer we all know, hardly ever getting his points off of the triangle offense itself. Not to mention he averaged about 10.75 more FGA than Scottie did for his career. Not chopping his legs off here, just stating a fact. :-)
-Bryant played in a more historic franchise with a winning tradition, yet Scottie was the better winner.
*00' Duncan was injured giving Kobe and the Lakers a free path to title.
02' is widely considered a sham, as it saw the Lakers receive 47 FTs in a 4th qtr of Game 7 against the Sacramento Royals.
09' Yao Ming out for Houston, Jameer Nelson for the Magic, Kevin Garnett for Boston, Manu Ginobili for the Spurs...lets just say the stars alligned themself for the Los Angeles Luckers.
**09' is not included, as it saw Kobe Bean Bryant lead a team to a title as a #1 for the first, and to this date, only time. Thanks in large part to facts previously stated but he lead the Lakers that year nonetheless. Note:00-03 were included as it saw him masterfully play Robin to Shaq's Batman. As was '10 where he was Robin to MVPau's Batman.