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ElNono
10-07-2010, 10:04 PM
If you had to make a decision to cut one guy after this game, which guy would that be?

I'll try to make one of these after each game.

Pauleta14
10-07-2010, 10:06 PM
Bonner

Oink Oink
10-07-2010, 10:10 PM
Penny

ohmwrecker
10-07-2010, 10:11 PM
Gist.

He was outplayed by Koozahn who is a sure bet for the Toros.

ElNono
10-07-2010, 10:12 PM
Shit, I missed Penney... he wasn't in the list in Spurs.com... oh well, he'll be in the next list if he's still around. Sorry.

ohmwrecker
10-07-2010, 10:13 PM
Cousin, Gist, Jerrells and Penney are all going to be cut.

anonoftheinternets
10-07-2010, 10:13 PM
myself :cry ....

http://www.thedailygreen.com/cm/thedailygreen/images/emo-cow.jpeg

DPG21920
10-07-2010, 10:14 PM
Are we judging based off of this one game? Or do we take into account all that we know about the player and team needs as well.

If it is solely this game: Temple

If it is all things considered: Simmons

spectator
10-07-2010, 10:14 PM
i would only keep neal and temple, but i guess we should have a 6th big to warm the bench, so we'll have to wait and see if croissant is better than gist. both have + and -. croissant got killed by hill in the first half; gist proved he had no 1-on-1 post game.

ElNono
10-07-2010, 10:16 PM
Are we judging based off of this one game? Or do we take into account all that we know about the player and team needs as well.

If it is solely this game: Temple

If it is all things considered: Simmons

Whatever you feel like, really. I'm hoping to do this after every game because you get a fresh impression.

LoneStarState'sPride
10-07-2010, 10:17 PM
Penney

ohmwrecker
10-07-2010, 10:19 PM
If it is all things considered: Simmons

Really? Very interesting . . .

He didn't look good tonight, but who of Cousins, Gist, Jerrells and Penney makes it over Simmons?

ElNono
10-07-2010, 10:20 PM
Really? Very interesting . . .

He didn't look good tonight, but who of Cousins, Gist, Jerrells and Penney makes it over Simmons?

If you're taking just today's game, I would take Cousins and Jerrells over him.
CJ played good D and I feel we're going to need more of that than offense.

ohmwrecker
10-07-2010, 10:23 PM
If you're taking just today's game, I would take Cousins and Jerrells over him.
CJ played good D and I feel we're going to need more of that than offense.

I was very impressed with Cousins, but I'm reasonably sure they will develop him in Austin. Jerrells played good tonight, but there is a logjam at his position.

jestersmash
10-07-2010, 10:24 PM
Penny

Sorry but your opinion is wrong. To suggest that Penney did the worst out of that group is laughable. You must not even watch these games.

Penney's not super amazing, I'm not trying to hype him up here, but to suggest that he was the worst tonight of that group is laughably ignorant.

ElNono
10-07-2010, 10:26 PM
I was very impressed with Cousins, but I'm reasonably sure they will develop him in Austin. Jerrells played good tonight, but there is a logjam at his position.

If we're going to keep Simmons just for shits and giggles, just leave the spot open and see if we can trade for somebody come January. I don't want another centerpiece getting minutes out there.

DPG21920
10-07-2010, 10:26 PM
Really? Very interesting . . .

He didn't look good tonight, but who of Cousins, Gist, Jerrells and Penney makes it over Simmons?


If you're taking just today's game, I would take Cousins and Jerrells over him.
CJ played good D and I feel we're going to need more of that than offense.


I was very impressed with Cousins, but I'm reasonably sure they will develop him in Austin. Jerrells played good tonight, but there is a logjam at his position.

I was comparing it more to players at his position fighting for a spot. For the shooting, I would keep Penney over him. The defense between the two is a wash for me.

For upside and defense, I would keep Gee over Simmons.

For overall game, I would keep Neal over Simmons.

I just don't see a spot for him overall considering his age and upside.

Oink Oink
10-07-2010, 10:29 PM
Sorry but your opinion is wrong. To suggest that Penney did the worst out of that group is laughable. You must not even watch these games.

Penney's not super amazing, I'm not trying to hype him up here, but to suggest that he was the worst tonight of that group is laughably ignorant.

I didn't say he was the worst just think he has the least potential.

dbestpro
10-07-2010, 10:29 PM
Jerrells really has no realistic ability to help this team. If it comes to a point where he plays significant minutes we are already in the tank. Temple is still working back from an injury just like Anderson so I give them both a pass. I still want to see more from Gist, Cousins, and Gee. I feel like we already know what Jerrells max is going to be.

ohmwrecker
10-07-2010, 10:36 PM
I was comparing it more to players at his position fighting for a spot. For the shooting, I would keep Penney over him. The defense between the two is a wash for me.

For upside and defense, I would keep Gee over Simmons.

For overall game, I would keep Neal over Simmons.

I just don't see a spot for him overall considering his age and upside.

I am just hoping he is out of shape and was having an off night. I'm not advocating keeping him, but I would think that they give a legit NBA guy another opportunity or two and see if he can revive that talent.
Penney can shoot, but those looks aren't going to get easier and I can see him being a real liability on D.
As far as I am concerned Gee and Neal are making the squad.

baseline bum
10-07-2010, 10:49 PM
Bonner

ALVAREZ6
10-07-2010, 10:50 PM
Bonner

SpursRulez4eVeR
10-07-2010, 10:52 PM
temple looked terrible tonight but i would say gist

MaNu4Tres
10-07-2010, 11:00 PM
Spurs need to be all over the Melo deal to bring Chandler in if it ever transpires.

The Masterpiece should be cut by the end of preseason.

DespЏrado
10-07-2010, 11:05 PM
another write in for Bonner.

JustinJDW
10-07-2010, 11:05 PM
Jerrells. He literally has no shot of making this team and due to his style of play, he is useless to us. Why are we even keeping this guy around? Cut him.

Fabbs
10-07-2010, 11:07 PM
bonner
+ 1,000,000,000

slick'81
10-07-2010, 11:08 PM
i didnt see the game but yeah bonner lol

Don'tCallMeBubbles
10-07-2010, 11:20 PM
myself :cry ....

http://www.thedailygreen.com/cm/thedailygreen/images/emo-cow.jpeg

The cow's on to something Spurfan.

It's already October.

JR3
10-07-2010, 11:30 PM
Simmons no question. He looked like he didn't belong in the NBA anymore. Gist was my second choice.. but I'm not ready to give up on him.. he has a better upside.

JR3
10-07-2010, 11:31 PM
Oh yeah, where is Penney? He would be my first choice. But I guess we are assuming he is a lock already to get cut first.

ducks
10-07-2010, 11:32 PM
duncan

Don'tCallMeBubbles
10-07-2010, 11:32 PM
Bobby Simmons is a hell of a guy. He's a legend with my Clippers. He won the Most Improved Player of the Year award with us.

But mostly, he had good weed.

ElNono
10-07-2010, 11:32 PM
Oh yeah, where is Penney? He would be my first choice. But I guess we are assuming he is a lock already to get cut first.


Shit, I missed Penney... he wasn't in the list in Spurs.com... oh well, he'll be in the next list if he's still around. Sorry.

BackHome
10-07-2010, 11:35 PM
I thought Gist played pretty good defense but tried to hard on offense. I think if he just focused on rebounding, and setting picks he would look much better.

elemento
10-08-2010, 01:27 AM
Considering only this game Temple easily. He was terrible.

analyzed
10-08-2010, 01:40 AM
On Penny.. we're not looking for guy to be a star on even a major rotation guy. but some one who can contribute in the limited minutes given him. Penny might be able to that (a no error , decently efficient guy) i'm not sure you can get that from Gist or Gee. You're bascilly rolling the dice anytime you put those guys in , even for limited minutes



I didn't say he was the worst just think he has the least potential.

Chomag
10-08-2010, 03:49 AM
Bonner and RJ, both are useless.

Rummpd
10-08-2010, 06:56 AM
Bonner please!

easy7
10-08-2010, 07:34 AM
Bonner

hater
10-08-2010, 08:14 AM
Matt Bonner

hater
10-08-2010, 08:16 AM
LMAO didn't know most ppl put Bonner too. dude is useless. and so is RJ btw tbh

DrSteffo
10-08-2010, 08:28 AM
All of them and RJ, Hill, Bonner...

dbestpro
10-08-2010, 09:58 AM
Penny is a smaller version of Bonner.

Obstructed_View
10-08-2010, 11:00 AM
As badly as Temple played, the last person I want to cut after last night is Jerrells. As badly as Hill ran the offense, there's certainly no logjam of point guards on this team.

ohmwrecker
10-08-2010, 11:09 AM
As badly as Temple played, the last person I want to cut after last night is Jerrells. As badly as Hill ran the offense, there's certainly no logjam of point guards on this team.

Well, I can pretty much guarantee that G-Hill will not be that bad very often and I still like what Temple showed us last year, but yeah, he was awful.

Still, Hill/Anderson/Gee/Neal/Penney/Jerrells/Temple = logjam

How many potential backup guards do the Spurs need?

Obstructed_View
10-08-2010, 11:26 AM
Well, I can pretty much guarantee that G-Hill will not be that bad very often and I still like what Temple showed us last year, but yeah, he was awful.

Still, Hill/Anderson/Gee/Neal/Penney/Jerrells/Temple = logjam

How many potential backup guards do the Spurs need?

Understood, but guarantees have nothing to do with the point of the thread, which is: What would you do based on the Rockets game?

I've got no problem cutting some of the swingmen, but there is not a logjam of point guards. One could make a rather convincing case that the Spurs don't have a single traditional PG on the roster. You can't just give the ball to anyone and expect the offense to run. See Mason, Roger. That said, it will probably happen; we currently have a front office that seems to think the team can make up for what they've lost defensively by hitting more three pointers.

ohmwrecker
10-08-2010, 11:34 AM
Understood, but guarantees have nothing to do with the point of the thread, which is: What would you do based on the Rockets game?
If that is indeed the point of the thread, then the better question would be, "Who performed the worst in the first preseason game?".

The answer: Garrett Temple

Are you willing to cut Temple based solely on last night's peformance?



I've got no problem cutting some of the swingmen, but there is not a logjam of point guards. One could make a rather convincing case that the Spurs don't have a single traditional PG on the roster. You can't just give the ball to anyone and expect the offense to run. See Mason, Roger. That said, it will probably happen; we currently have a front office that seems to think the team can make up for what they've lost defensively by hitting more three pointers.

I'm glad I don't need to plead that case.

yavozerb
10-08-2010, 11:43 AM
Penny is a smaller version of Bonner.

Maybe so...I guess your looking for smaller versions of TD? not sure what your looking for in an outside shooter

Obstructed_View
10-08-2010, 11:47 AM
Are you willing to cut Temple based solely on last night's peformance?


I'm already on record saying I wouldn't cut a point guard, and the Rockets game reinforced that sentiment. Temple can stink it up for another game or two before I start thinking about cutting him, and he's still probably the last one I make. If somebody wants Temple or CJ's spot on the roster, and it's my call, they're gonna have to give me a reason. That said, I'm also watching the wire to see who other teams are letting go.


I'm glad I don't need to plead that case.

:lol That makes two of us.

mingus
10-08-2010, 12:18 PM
i never bought that Hill was a pg. he can't run it properly because he doesn't set people up at this point in his career. it takes him away from what he's good at, which is scoring of the dribble and get set-up by other people for threes. i'd like to see more of Manu at back-up point.

DrSteffo
10-08-2010, 01:02 PM
Well the guard rotation come play off time will be TP, Hill, Manu and some other guy a few minutes: temple or neal or anderson. Manu can play pg with Hill no problem.

ElNono
10-08-2010, 03:13 PM
i never bought that Hill was a pg. he can't run it properly because he doesn't set people up at this point in his career. it takes him away from what he's good at, which is scoring of the dribble and get set-up by other people for threes. i'd like to see more of Manu at back-up point.

Agreed. He's a SG... I know Pop has tried hard to turn him into a PG, but I don't see it. He just doesn't have that kind of feel for the game (at least yet), IMO.

ElNono
10-08-2010, 03:15 PM
I see CJ is leading here right now...

I'll just say that I like what he did on defense. Right now, I don't think the Spurs problems really hinge on the offensive power, so to me the priority is to find people that can actually play some D. That's why I wouldn't cut him after this first game.

anonoftheinternets
10-08-2010, 03:37 PM
man its sad that everyone picked CJ, he played pretty well out there.

Obstructed_View
10-08-2010, 03:40 PM
CJ seemed to figure some things out during Summer League, and by the end he was playing really solid defense, was taking care of the ball and was really running the offense. The only knock against the guy is that he's a chucker. Too many Spurs fans vote on crap like this and never actually watched the players involved.

beachwood
10-08-2010, 03:59 PM
No matter how good Jerrells is, he's playing for a spot on another team right now. We're stocked up on guards. If he was 3pt specialist, then maybe he'd have a chance.

Kirk Penney all the way.

Obstructed_View
10-08-2010, 05:12 PM
The Spurs need point guards and defenders way more than they need another guy who can jack up threes.