View Full Version : Tea Party Candidate plays dress-up...in Nazi uniform?
Stringer_Bell
10-11-2010, 01:05 AM
http://gawker.com/5659792/meet-the-tea-party-candidate-who-plays-nazi-on-weekends?skyline=true&s=i
This is Ohio's GOP Congressional Candidate Rich Iott:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/11/article-1319438-0B8D45FF000005DC-62_468x580.jpg
"I've always been fascinated by the fact that here was a relatively small country that from a strictly military point of view accomplished incredible things. I mean, they took over most of Europe and Russia, and it really took the combined effort of the free world to defeat them. From a purely historical military point of view, that's incredible."
I wonder what him and the Tea Party Express would think of a bunch of Brown people dressing up in turbins and beards recreating Al Qaeda terror missions in the US (for weekend educational purposes and having fun recreating history, of course). AQ was also a small force that literally changed the entire world in one day...purely historical interest, my nigga!
Actually, to be fair, I hear it's possible to make the argument that Nazis weren't a bunch of bloated scum-sucking cunts...really, it wasn't the Nazis' fault, it was just Hitler's Stage-3 syphilis that is to blame. Right, WC? :rollin
Point is, the Tea Party Express can't be a cohesive national movement when so many crazy fuckers like Iott are their candidates. The Wiking Division is known for war crimes for christ's sake, and while you can't stop "historical groups" from doing this shit there's got to be some standard of intelligence if the GOP is going to let the Tea Party Express in on the action when choosing candidates. Or maybe they don't want legitimate candidates, maybe they really do want loons like Iott and Angle and O'Donnell and Palin to represent them? May the god of vaginal-only sex, fear-mongering, and low taxes without cutting the budget have mercy on us all! :bang
LnGrrrR
10-11-2010, 01:57 AM
To be honest, I agree with his quote, that what Germany accomplished militarily (and also politically) is pretty f'ing amazing. But you could say that of lots of military leaders. (Hannibal, Washington, etc etc.) That's why they're revered.
Of course, that doesn't mean I'm going to dress up as a Nazi... especially if I want to run for political office. Shoot, at least do it during Halloween, and make it something like a mad-scientist Nazi or a Zombie Nazi or some other variation.
Parker2112
10-11-2010, 12:17 PM
The "Tea Party" is a segment of voters with parallel anger, but with disparate philosophies and goals for govt.
Wild Cobra
10-11-2010, 12:27 PM
The "Tea Party" is a segment of voters with parallel anger, but with disparate philosophies and goals for govt.
We actually agree on something.
I wonder how many other pictures anyone can scrounge up of some Tea party member play acting on the side of Nazi's in a war game. Out of the millions of Tea part supporters, that's truly one in a million, or less...
It would be nice to know the real context. Is it just a game, or does he have Nazi tendencies. A picture seldom portrays the whole truth.
boutons_deux
10-11-2010, 12:29 PM
Of all the crazy shit tea baggers and their manipulators have been spewing, this Young Guns play Nazi dude is the ONLY one the Repugs are disowning.
Repugs' Big Tent is an insane asylum
Winehole23
10-11-2010, 12:30 PM
It would be nice to know the real context. Is it just a game, or does he have Nazi tendencies. A picture seldom portrays the whole truthAccording to Mr. Iott, father/son bonding. Nothing to see here.
balli
10-11-2010, 12:31 PM
I might not think this guy's overtly racist role play is indicative of the average teabagger's closet racism, but I sure think his stupidity is more or less par for the course.
Winehole23
10-11-2010, 12:34 PM
Tone deaf to the max, for sure.
Wild Cobra
10-11-2010, 12:34 PM
Of all the crazy shit tea baggers and their manipulators have been spewing, this Young Guns play Nazi dude is the ONLY one the Repugs are disowning.
Repugs' Bit Tent is an insane asylum
Ever play a game on play the bad guy? Ever play one of the most popular games ever called Grand Theft Auto?
If so, does that mean you are a criminal?
balli
10-11-2010, 12:42 PM
Ever play a game on play the bad guy? Ever play one of the most popular games ever called Grand Theft Auto?
If so, does that mean you are a criminal?
lol. Yeah, the Nazis are just misunderstood Mafiosos.
GMAFB.
Wild Cobra
10-11-2010, 12:57 PM
lol. Yeah, the Nazis are just misunderstood Mafiosos.
GMAFB.
I don't see much difference. Why do you?
balli
10-11-2010, 01:02 PM
I don't see much difference. Why do you?
Because I'm not a moron...
who thinks a real regime devoted to ethnic cleansing is 'not much different' from a stereotypical and fictional depiction of a Guido crime figure.
You're an idiot.
Stringer_Bell
10-11-2010, 01:12 PM
It would be nice to know the real context. Is it just a game, or does he have Nazi tendencies. A picture seldom portrays the whole truth.
I posted the link, you chose not to read it and/or investigate it further. Also, since Grand Theft Auto moved to PS2, the storylines have not been simply about killing innocents and being a gangster. If you actually played the games you'd know that instead of taking a page out of Joe LIEberman's playbook.
A standard for intelligence is what I was wondering about, how low is the bar for GOP candidates these days? Maybe he really doesn't mean any harm by recreating SS missions? Or maybe he shows up to Jewish Temples dressed like that for the lulz? Doesn't matter to me, it's the stupidity of the man that I wonder about and where the double-standard comes in when it involves "historical atrocities" because if brown people ran around doing dry-runs of 9/11 - the Tea Baggers would be crying bloody murder.
Wild Cobra
10-11-2010, 01:17 PM
What don't I understand?
"These guys don't know their history. They have a sanitized, romanticized view of what occurred."
Isn't that the same thing games like Grand Theft Auto does?
Wrong is wrong. Is something less wrong, OK?
Oh, Gee!!
10-11-2010, 02:00 PM
most voters would give the guy a pass if he only played GTA. in fact, nobody would know because nobody would care.
George Gervin's Afro
10-11-2010, 02:10 PM
Did anyone on his staff mention an admiration for Mao.....? I mean the next thing you know a certain network would play on that quote for years... luckily for this guy there isn't a dishonest 'news' netwrok to make it something it is not...
ElNono
10-11-2010, 02:11 PM
Glenn Beck will run the story so he can just mutter the word Nazi one more time.
George Gervin's Afro
10-11-2010, 02:12 PM
Glenn Beck will run the story so he can just mutter the word Nazi one more time.
nah, beck would explain the picture away..and then blame the true nazis ..the accusers.
ElNono
10-11-2010, 02:21 PM
Glenn Beck is obsessed with Hitler and Woodrow Wilson. (I'm just saying.) (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/30/AR2010093005267.html)
Kinda long, but at times comic read.
Glenn Beck is obsessed with Hitler and Woodrow Wilson. (I'm just saying.) (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/30/AR2010093005267.html)
Kinda long, but at times comic read.
Ya know, I was never really afraid of Beck until I read that article that you referenced. That is genuinely a loss of grounding. Seriously. Scarily ungrounded.
LnGrrrR
10-11-2010, 03:44 PM
What don't I understand?
Isn't that the same thing games like Grand Theft Auto does?
Wrong is wrong. Is something less wrong, OK?
Woah woah woah. Are you denying that there are differing levels of wrong here? Are you equating stealing a candy bar with, say, murder?
Glenn Beck is obsessed with Hitler and Woodrow Wilson. (I'm just saying.) (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/30/AR2010093005267.html)
Kinda long, but at times comic read.
Definitely a comic, silly attempt, with wrong facts themselves - the Dark Ages' ending being 1000 AD, for instance. Most pinpoint the true end at the invention of the printing press in the mid 1400s. I have never read anyone putting it anywhere near 1000 AD.
Not defending Beck specifically, but welcome to the political arena. Getting butthurt over someone constantly comparing a practice, person, or ideology with either a similar or contrasting one isn't exactly new to the game. This piece was a pot-stirrer, nothing more.
ElNono
10-11-2010, 05:20 PM
Definitely a comic, silly attempt, with wrong facts themselves - the Dark Ages' ending being 1000 AD, for instance. Most pinpoint the true end at the invention of the printing press in the mid 1400s. I have never read anyone putting it anywhere near 1000 AD.
From Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages):
Starting and ending dates varied: the Dark Ages were considered by some to start in 410, by others in 476 when there was no longer an emperor in Rome, and to end about 800, at the time of the Carolingian Renaissance under Charlemagne, or to extend through the rest of the 1st millennium.
Not defending Beck specifically, but welcome to the political arena. Getting butthurt over someone constantly comparing a practice, person, or ideology with either a similar or contrasting one isn't exactly new to the game. This piece was a pot-stirrer, nothing more.
Completely agree. That's why I said you need to take it with a comic angle.
I don't think Beck is as crazy as he portrays himself, or as crazy as described. He obviously knows what brings the money in, and that's exactly what he's going to pound on.
Wild Cobra
10-11-2010, 05:28 PM
Woah woah woah. Are you denying that there are differing levels of wrong here? Are you equating stealing a candy bar with, say, murder?
Not at all. I'm actually pointing out these are games. Games are not real. If we are to judge someone by one violent game that pretends to kill, shouldn't the same standard hold to another game that involves killings?
From Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages):
Starting and ending dates varied: the Dark Ages were considered by some to start in 410, by others in 476 when there was no longer an emperor in Rome, and to end about 800, at the time of the Carolingian Renaissance under Charlemagne, or to extend through the rest of the 1st millennium.
Also from wikipedia: Originally, the term characterized the bulk of the Middle Ages as a period of intellectual darkness between the extinguishing of the light of Rome, and the Renaissance or rebirth from the 14th century onwards.[4] This definition is still found in popular usage,[1][2][5]
Although I am perhaps "off" in the exact dating, the Dark Ages has long been known as a roughly 1000 year period from 400-1450 AD, approximately. Now termed more loosely as part of the "Middle Ages."
Either way, I don't think he presented his facts clearly enough to call Beck out on them.
As for the comic piece, I think we're both on the same page. it's a post like EVAY's that alarms me: why buy so eagerly into such a piece? It was mostly a scathing commentary on his programming, not much else.
Crookshanks
10-11-2010, 06:28 PM
The guy does re-enactments - there's nothing to this story. In order to have a historically correct re-enactment, someone has to play the bad guy.
clambake
10-11-2010, 06:32 PM
The guy does re-enactments - there's nothing to this story. In order to have a historically correct re-enactment, someone has to play the bad guy.
clearly, he's not playing. he's got that "just gassed a bunch of jews" laughter on his face.
ElNono
10-11-2010, 06:40 PM
Also from wikipedia: Originally, the term characterized the bulk of the Middle Ages as a period of intellectual darkness between the extinguishing of the light of Rome, and the Renaissance or rebirth from the 14th century onwards.[4] This definition is still found in popular usage,[1][2][5]
Although I am perhaps "off" in the exact dating, the Dark Ages has long been known as a roughly 1000 year period from 400-1450 AD, approximately. Now termed more loosely as part of the "Middle Ages."
Either way, I don't think he presented his facts clearly enough to call Beck out on them.
Don't get me wrong, I was merely presenting a reference that I found that call for that era. I'm not really a connoisseur in that part of history, and I don't intend to pass for one.
As for the comic piece, I think we're both on the same page. it's a post like EVAY's that alarms me: why buy so eagerly into such a piece? It was mostly a scathing commentary on his programming, not much else.
Confirmation bias? I think Beck does play the Nazi card way too much and at time unreasonably so, but ultimately he's free to say whatever he wants.
The joke isn't on him or his critics, but those that take the bait, hook and sinker on both sides.
Wild Cobra
10-11-2010, 07:03 PM
The guy does re-enactments - there's nothing to this story. In order to have a historically correct re-enactment, someone has to play the bad guy.
Correct. You don't have to be a bad guy in video games though. That is a choice that I understand less.
clambake
10-12-2010, 09:57 AM
he said he admired hitler......and people dress up as the character they want to be.
he didn't dress up as anne frank.
Trainwreck2100
10-12-2010, 10:16 AM
he said he admired hitler......and people dress up as the character they want to be.
he didn't dress up as anne frank.
who the fuck would want to be anne frank?
clambake
10-12-2010, 10:19 AM
who the fuck would want to be anne frank?
maybe someone that doesn't admire hitler.
Crookshanks
10-12-2010, 10:33 AM
Libs are desperate and are reaching for anything they can to stop the avalanche - but it's not going to work.
clambake
10-12-2010, 10:35 AM
yeah, picking a guy that admires hitler is a real quality choice.
George Gervin's Afro
10-12-2010, 10:41 AM
yeah, picking a guy that admires hitler is a real quality choice.
in conservtaives mind's a hitler admirerer is better than a lib!
Oh, Gee!!
10-12-2010, 10:52 AM
The guy does re-enactments - there's nothing to this story. In order to have a historically correct re-enactment, someone has to play the bad guy.
it's not a case of "sorry, but you have to be the SS soldier."
"awww man, again?"
it's a case of this guy admiring the Nazis and dressing up as way of commerating and honoring them. Big difference.
if that doesnn't bother you, fine. but don't minimize what he's willingly taking a part in. His behavior is offensive to a large number of people, and it will probably cause him to lose the election (if he even had a chance to begin with).
boutons_deux
10-12-2010, 11:22 AM
So Crooky, what EXACTLY are the Repug morans gonna do when they ski in on that avalanche?
Restore America?
Take Back Our Freedoms?
:lol
Don't go Joe Wilson and other chickenshit tea baggers on us and refuse to answer questions, or run away from the press.
clambake
10-12-2010, 11:26 AM
So Crooky, what EXACTLY are the Repug morans gonna do when they ski in on that avalanche?
Restore America?
Take Back Our Freedoms?
:lol
Don't go Joe Wilson and other chickenshit tea baggers on us and refuse to answer questions, or run away from the press.
skanks admires hitler. is there really anything else she needs to say?
she's getting closer to god.......through hitler.
Wild Cobra
10-12-2010, 11:53 AM
he said he admired hitler......and people dress up as the character they want to be.
he didn't dress up as anne frank.
I thought he indicated he admired some of Hitler's achievements. That's not the same as admiring the man. Hitler is responsible for many good things in German. The VW Beetle and the Autobahn system just being two of them.
I think president Clinton was one of the best leaders we ever had. That doesn't mean I agree with his policies or like him.
Wild Cobra
10-12-2010, 11:56 AM
in conservtaives mind's a hitler admirerer is better than a lib!
No, Hitler's socialism before he took a hard genocidal curve is closer to liberal policies.
http://www.eyeonannapolis.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/obamahitler1.bmp
clambake
10-12-2010, 12:03 PM
wow....using hitler to support the right-wing.
Oh, Gee!!
10-12-2010, 12:06 PM
I thought he indicated he admired some of Hitler's achievements. That's not the same as admiring the man. Hitler is responsible for many good things in German. The VW Beetle and the Autobahn system just being two of them.
I think president Clinton was one of the best leaders we ever had. That doesn't mean I agree with his policies or like him.
remember that time when Clinton got all crazy and tried to wipe out an entire race? I was a big supporter until that happened.
boutons_deux
10-12-2010, 12:10 PM
Hitler is responsible for many good things in German. The VW Beetle and the Autobahn system just being two of them.
So now you are FOR strong government and its intervention in the private sector?
clambake
10-12-2010, 12:11 PM
I thought he indicated he admired some of Hitler's achievements. That's not the same as admiring the man. Hitler is responsible for many good things in German. The VW Beetle and the Autobahn system just being two of them.
he didn't dress up as a road sign or herbie the love bug. he dressed as a commander of a division that lined up jews and slaughtered them.
I think president Clinton was one of the best leaders we ever had. That doesn't mean I agree with his policies or like him.
hitler to clinton comparison. lol
Oh, Gee!!
10-12-2010, 12:11 PM
He killed a bunch of people, but where would we be without the VW?
clambake
10-12-2010, 12:18 PM
a few weeks ago, skanks said americans need to get closer to god.
just another member of the phony christian club.
George Gervin's Afro
10-12-2010, 12:46 PM
No, Hitler's socialism before he took a hard genocidal curve is closer to liberal policies.
http://www.eyeonannapolis.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/obamahitler1.bmp
comparing nazis to liberals... shocking!
LnGrrrR
10-12-2010, 12:58 PM
Not at all. I'm actually pointing out these are games. Games are not real. If we are to judge someone by one violent game that pretends to kill, shouldn't the same standard hold to another game that involves killings?
Yeah, I agree with your overall point. But if I planned on running for office, I sure would think twice before putting on a Nazi outfit, game or not.
And there are also different levels of involvement. Playing a video game is obviously not as involved as dressing up and acting it out. That's why people who LARP (live action roleplay) are much bigger nerds than video gamers. :lol
LnGrrrR
10-12-2010, 01:01 PM
Correct. You don't have to be a bad guy in video games though. That is a choice that I understand less.
It's fantasy WC. I can't kill people in real life, so I play a game. (And in fact, many people who play GTA and those types of games are just killing in an abstract way, to accomplish their mission/goal or to score points. Not many kids are killing hookers etc because they want to do that in real life; they're just testing the boundaries of the games, as nearly all video gamers do.)
Wild Cobra
10-12-2010, 01:19 PM
remember that time when Clinton got all crazy and tried to wipe out an entire race? I was a big supporter until that happened.
Yes, I'll bet you fantasized about that.
Wild Cobra
10-12-2010, 01:21 PM
Yeah, I agree with your overall point. But if I planned on running for office, I sure would think twice before putting on a Nazi outfit, game or not.
And there are also different levels of involvement. Playing a video game is obviously not as involved as dressing up and acting it out. That's why people who LARP (live action roleplay) are much bigger nerds than video gamers. :lol
And since people fall into such silly notions of why to vote for someone or not, most good Americans refuse to enter the political arena.
Is that really something we should judge people over?
I guess I'm among the only ones who find the actual topic at hand a non-issue.
Dressing up as a Nazi is politically incorrect, but I don't even see a swastika. There is such a thing as guarded admiration - many throughout history have respected their opposition's tactics and strategy, even if their cause was extremely unjust.
The candidate looks like he's in North African gear, a sort of ode to Rommel.
Wild Cobra
10-12-2010, 01:33 PM
I guess I'm among the only ones who find the actual topic at hand a non-issue.
Dressing up as a Nazi is politically incorrect, but I don't even see a swastika. There is such a thing as guarded admiration - many throughout history have respected their opposition's tactics and strategy, even if their cause was extremely unjust.
The candidate looks like he's in North African gear, a sort of ode to Rommel.
I don't see it as an issue either. I just have a hard time (not really) believing people here can be so short sighted and bigoted.
boutons_deux
10-12-2010, 01:58 PM
Nazi Re-enactor Just Tip of the Iceberg: The GOP’s Long History with Nazi Allies
Iott says the group chose the Wiking division in part because it fought on the Eastern Front, mainly against the Russian Army, and not U.S. or British soldiers. The group’s website includes a lengthy history of the Wiking unit, a recruitment video, and footage of goose-stepping German soldiers marching in the Warsaw victory parade after Poland fell in 1939. The website makes scant mention of the atrocities committed by the Waffen SS, and includes only a glancing reference to the “twisted” nature of Nazism. Instead, it emphasizes how the Wiking unit fought Bolshevist Communism:
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/Paul_H_Rosenberg/Belant--GOP-Nazis-5.jpg
The last thing that current-day resesntment cheerleaders–from Beck on down–want is for folks to start poking into the past, and laying out exactly how they (not liberals) are the ones with specific, historical connections with Nazi Germany, and the greatest death panels of all time.
http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/10/12/nazi-re-enactor-just-tip-of-the-iceberg-the-gops-long-history-with-nazi-allies/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=alternet#
Oh, Gee!!
10-12-2010, 02:00 PM
I don't see it as an issue either. I just have a hard time (not really) believing people here can be so short sighted and bigoted.
short-sighted and bigoted would be jumping to conclusions about a picture without any context or explanation. In this case we have the context needed to conclude certain things about Mr. Iott. He has admitted his regard for Nazis, and has shown his enthusiasm for their miltary conquests by using his spare time to dress up like a SS soldier and reconstruct their victories.
clambake
10-12-2010, 02:05 PM
some people thinking genocide wasn't a military objective is lol.
Wild Cobra
10-12-2010, 02:23 PM
Nazi Re-enactor Just Tip of the Iceberg: The GOP’s Long History with Nazi Allies
Iott says the group chose the Wiking division in part because it fought on the Eastern Front, mainly against the Russian Army, and not U.S. or British soldiers. The group’s website includes a lengthy history of the Wiking unit, a recruitment video, and footage of goose-stepping German soldiers marching in the Warsaw victory parade after Poland fell in 1939. The website makes scant mention of the atrocities committed by the Waffen SS, and includes only a glancing reference to the “twisted” nature of Nazism. Instead, it emphasizes how the Wiking unit fought Bolshevist Communism:
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn312/Paul_H_Rosenberg/Belant--GOP-Nazis-5.jpg
The last thing that current-day resesntment cheerleaders–from Beck on down–want is for folks to start poking into the past, and laying out exactly how they (not liberals) are the ones with specific, historical connections with Nazi Germany, and the greatest death panels of all time.
http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/10/12/nazi-re-enactor-just-tip-of-the-iceberg-the-gops-long-history-with-nazi-allies/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=alternet#
OK, Paul Rosenberg has five graphics inserts on his page from a book titled "Reagan, Remorse and Revisionist History."
Care to place any of that in context, or are you assuming the worse?
Oh, Gee!!
10-12-2010, 02:26 PM
why does WC feel compelled to minimize to the point of non-existence the fact that a Republican candidate uses his spare time and money to dress up like a Nazi SS Soldier?
LnGrrrR
10-12-2010, 02:30 PM
And since people fall into such silly notions of why to vote for someone or not, most good Americans refuse to enter the political arena.
Is that really something we should judge people over?
I'm not talking about whether people SHOULD judge or not. In this case, I don't think it's a big deal.
I think you'll see alot of the old PC standards die out when it comes time for Millenials to come into office... pretty much everyone has put out some dirt on themselves online.
coyotes_geek
10-12-2010, 02:37 PM
I guess I'm among the only ones who find the actual topic at hand a non-issue.
Dressing up as a Nazi is politically incorrect, but I don't even see a swastika. There is such a thing as guarded admiration - many throughout history have respected their opposition's tactics and strategy, even if their cause was extremely unjust.
The candidate looks like he's in North African gear, a sort of ode to Rommel.
I'm there with you. Not a big deal. Of course that won't stop the resident blue team puppets from feigning a bunch of outrage because it involves someone on red team.
clambake
10-12-2010, 02:37 PM
lol people singing the praises of hitler just to protect their little ohio nazi.
exactly where is rock bottom?
Wild Cobra
10-12-2010, 02:37 PM
why does WC feel compelled to minimize to the point of non-existence the fact that a Republican candidate uses his spare time and money to dress up like a Nazi SS Soldier?
I just find it a non-issue. You guy's are simply falling pray to an October Surprise.
clambake
10-12-2010, 02:39 PM
I just find it a non-issue. You guy's are simply falling pray to an October Surprise.
you mean like "surprise, he's a nazi"?
if its just a surprise.......why are you pimping hitler?
Wild Cobra
10-12-2010, 04:56 PM
you mean like "surprise, he's a nazi"?
if its just a surprise.......why are you pimping hitler?
If you say so. Believe as you like. You nearly always jump to the wrong conclusions anyway. I know that as an absolute fact.
clambake
10-12-2010, 05:39 PM
lol people singing the praises of hitler just to protect their little ohio nazi.
exactly where is rock bottom?
doobs
10-12-2010, 06:08 PM
What about Civil War reenactors who dress up as confederate soldiers? I'm sure some politician has done that.
clambake
10-12-2010, 06:10 PM
which side slaughtered jews? north or south?
Wild Cobra
10-12-2010, 07:04 PM
What about Civil War reenactors who dress up as confederate soldiers? I'm sure some politician has done that.
I was thinking of bringing up the same point, or even SCA activities. I doubt it matters to those who have such closed minds though. I do find it funny to see him and others spout the continuous assumptions, being biased against what it is, especially for someone so antisemitic himself.
For the record,I too think this activities were stupid. That said, it's nothing I would hold against him without evidence showing his stated purpose is a lie. His words are acceptable to me.
Nobody is perfect.
George Bush has his own vocabulary.
John Kerry threw someone elses medals away.
Al Gore invented the internet...
It's fun to make fun of people over silly things, but is it really that important?
Wild Cobra
10-12-2010, 07:04 PM
which side slaughtered jews? north or south?
Who treated blacks like property, and disposed of them at will?
clambake
10-12-2010, 07:09 PM
Who treated blacks like property, and disposed of them at will?
the founding fathers
George Gervin's Afro
10-13-2010, 08:15 AM
I doubt it matters to those who have such closed minds though. I do find it funny to see him and others spout the continuous assumptions, being biased against what it is, especially for someone so antisemitic himself.
Oh the irony....
Oh, Gee!!
10-13-2010, 08:47 AM
What about Civil War reenactors who dress up as confederate soldiers? I'm sure some politician has done that.
they probably catch hell from black voters, just like a Nazi sympathizer might catch hell from Jewish voters.
BlairForceDejuan
10-13-2010, 11:42 AM
The guy does re-enactments - there's nothing to this story. In order to have a historically correct re-enactment, someone has to play the bad guy.
Careful. You might overload the graspers with common sense.
Wild Cobra
10-13-2010, 11:59 AM
Careful. You might overload the graspers with common sense.
Yes, but it's fun doing so.
clambake
10-13-2010, 12:24 PM
yeah, it will just cost him the election.
Wild Cobra
10-13-2010, 12:32 PM
yeah, it will just cost him the election.
It just might. that's why I referred to it as an October Surprise.
clambake
10-13-2010, 01:09 PM
i don't find it surprising.
George Gervin's Afro
10-13-2010, 01:35 PM
Careful. You might overload the graspers with common sense.
Sincerely,
The crowd who tried to make Obama's past associations an issue in the 2008 election
RandomGuy
10-13-2010, 01:44 PM
Dude seems to be more of a history nerd than anything else.
I think if one were to ask him, he would probably readily acknowledge the um, shortcomings, of the National Socialist Workers Party.
(haven't finished reading the thread yet)
Dude seems to be more of a history nerd than anything else.
I think if one were to ask him, he would probably readily acknowledge the um, shortcomings, of the National Socialist Workers Party.
(haven't finished reading the thread yet)
Agreed. I think the main problem here is he's running for office and trying to garner votes - dressing up as a nazi seems like the wrong move, from a PR standpoint.
Wild Cobra
10-13-2010, 02:28 PM
Dude seems to be more of a history nerd than anything else.
I think if one were to ask him, he would probably readily acknowledge the um, shortcomings, of the National Socialist Workers Party.
(haven't finished reading the thread yet)
Yes, if anyone went to the website, they have this:
Disclaimer: This page or anyone involved in its creation, or members of reenactment groups listed here, are in no way affiliated with real, radical political organizations (i.e., KKK, Aryan Nation, American Nazi Party, etc.) and do not embrace the philosophies and actions of the original NSDAP (Nazi party), and wholeheartedly condemn the atrocities which made them infamous. May the victims of this unspeakable horror rest in peace. As we portray the German combat soldier, we are only interested in recreating his daily life, furthering our understanding of what it took to be a soldier, and at the same time having fun reliving history. We honor the men (and women) who really experienced the war, and we salute their courage and loyalty to put their lives on the line in defense of their native soil, no matter what nationality or government.
clambake
10-13-2010, 03:16 PM
that disclaimer is hilarious.
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