a&m v mizzou

[rjv]

big game for both. i'll have some faith and say the ags finally break through with a respectable win.

ags 31
tigers 21

[coyotes_geek]

Home field helps the Ags get a W.

A&M 27
Mizzou 17

[LoneStarState'sPride]

We gotta get this win--moral victories never show up in the "W" column for some reason. Will be @ Kyle for both Midnight Yell and the game--12th Man gives the Ags the edge for a hard fought win.

TAMU: 30
mizzou: 17

[djohn14]

Well...yall are a bit biased being Aggie fans and Im biased being a Tiger fan so I guess it evens out. Im going Mizzou 34-21. The Tigers QB did get a little banged up against Colorado but he should be a go. If not Ill come back and change the pick. The Tigers back up QB (James Franklin) is very talented but is just a true Freshman. They have got him in to three or four games already this year and he looked really good after Blaine went down. Anyway, the Tigers D are is leaps and bounds better than last year all because the DBs are stepping up. The top three corners are are very good and Kenji Jackson (FS) is very solid as well. Our star DE Aldon Smith will probably be a no go but you never know. Im not too concerned about this because the line play has been pretty solid and Michael Sam and Brad Madison has stepped up well in his absence. But in my openion this game will depend on how well Mizzou runs the football. They use 3 backs (Kendial Lawrence, Devion Moore, and Henry Josey) and all brings something diffrent to the table (Lawrence-Well rounded, Moore-Power, Josey-Speed). So if they can get even one of them going the offense should click. If not, it makes it a lot easier on your D when you know whats coming every play. Should be a good game.

[DesignatedT]

Ags 35
Mizzou 24

[coyotes_geek]

But in my openion this game will depend on how well Mizzou runs the football. They use 3 backs (Kendial Lawrence, Devion Moore, and Henry Josey) and all brings something diffrent to the table (Lawrence-Well rounded, Moore-Power, Josey-Speed). So if they can get even one of them going the offense should click. If not, it makes it a lot easier on your D when you know whats coming every play. Should be a good game.

For all of A&M's ups and downs this year, the one thing they have been able to do consistently (so far) this year is stop the run. IMO if Mizzou is going to win, it's going to be through the passing game. Well, that and/or the disturbing frequency at which A&M turns the ball over.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

I've actually been much impressed with the defensive effort this entire season. Save for the bludgeonings we took in the 3rd quarter at okie lite and the first half against arky, the D has been solid enough to give the offense ample opportunities to win games. Placing both our losses squarely on the shoulders of the O.

[DesignatedT]

Defense is much improved from last year.. MUCH IMPROVED. That being said it wouldn't surprise me if this game turned into a shootout. Plus, Missouri's QB is pretty banged up from last week. If he isn't completely healthy than the Aggies should be able to win this game by a pretty good margin.

[MajorMike]

I don't know anything about Mizzou. It seems like all of the national media believe Mizzou should win this handily. atm didn't play awful against arKy, but I still don't know that arKy is that good. atm looked to play better than OSU most of that game but I still don't know how good OSU is. Mizzou killed CU but I don't think CU is that good, either. Mizzou beat an Illinois team that played Ohio down to the wire and whooped Penn State.

I would like the cult of bryan to win but I don't know how good or bad either team is. Mizzou comes in playing much better recently, IMO.

Mizzou, 31-28

[johngateswhiteley]

A&M has to, I mean has to win...period.

A&M 34
mizzou 31

[DesignatedT]

Missouri wide receiver Jerrell Jackson said there is only one way to deal with a road crowd, and it works no matter where the game is played. It's to do what Franklin couldn't do in 2006 — score early.

"It's going to be a wild game," Jackson said. "When we step out there, we plan on shutting them up, quick."

Big talk son

[LoneStarState'sPride]

This is what happened last time Mizzou came to Kyle and tried to shut the 12th Man up, "quick"

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No sound on the vid, but Jordan Peterson, the A&M DB, punched the ball out of the mizzou players' possession and out the back of the endzone, resulting in a missouri turnover. A&M eventually won the game

[DesignatedT]

12th man will be out in full force. Gig 'em WHOOP!

[djohn14]

Should be a good game. Go Mizzou! Im expecting a really good game though.

[symple19]

wow, every TAMU fan picked the Ags, big surprise

[Cant_Be_Faded]

mizzou running east-west offense to perfection on that TD

[symple19]

watching the game, and this porous Ag defense leaves me less than impressed. How is it that Arkansas wasn't able to score more points than it did?

[djohn14]

13-0 miz! Zou!

[symple19]

Ags look horrible. Better make some serious adjustments at halftime or else Mizzou will roll right over them

[symple19]

possibly premature, but lol homerism

[symple19]

and one more thing, lol not sold out

bunch of empty seats in the upper deck. How can you guys not sell out against a ranked team?

[symple19]

12th man will be out in full force. Gig 'em WHOOP!

so much for being out in force

[symple19]

Look. I realize that the Ags can come back, but this is a pure ass whipping so far... at home no less.

12th Man! Gig em' whoop! rofl

[symple19]

c'mon poonsie, i see you lurking. anything to say? or are you still crying about cops doing what they're legally entitled to do?

[symple19]

kick it, especially when you're on the road

[Fpoonsie]

c'mon poonsie, i see you lurking. anything to say? or are you still crying about cops doing what they're legally entitled to do?

Tha fuck? I left the room. Would you rather I talk to myself in a game thread in which "my team" isn't even playing?

[symple19]

huh? aren't you an Ag fan?

[djohn14]

Miz!

[Fpoonsie]

huh? aren't you an Ag fan?

I am, but you're not. Thus, my easily identifiable point you missed.

Regardless, A&M looks like shit.

[djohn14]

Zou!

[MajorMike]

Wow.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Well, that was grim, to say the least.

Who the fuck put a bee in your bonnet though, symple19? rofl.

[DesignatedT]

Fucking embarrassing. Jerrod sucks ass. Tannehill better start against KU

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Fucking embarrassing. Jerrod sucks ass. Tannehill better start against KU

Sherm is too stubborn. JJ will start. Only unit on this team worth a damn is the defense, and the O keeps 'em out there FAR too long...

And to think I thought this was the year we "turned the corner" :lol

[DesignatedT]

Sherm is too stubborn. JJ will start. Only unit on this team worth a damn is the defense, and the O keeps 'em out there FAR too long...

And to think I thought this was the year we "turned the corner" :lol

Don't understand how the offense went from being great to terrible in 1 year. Play calling sucks, Jerrod sucks, Receivers cant catch, O line cant block. So sick of this shit, Sherman better do something or hes fucking out also.

[The Reckoning]

how does aggie, year after year, have a top 25 recruiting class and sucks so bad. its like aggie only cares to play football for one game, and thats against Texas.

im ashamed for thinking aggie could pull this off...

[DesignatedT]

I just need the Spurs to start already. Whole fucking program is a joke. Everyone needs to go and Byrne is the first one. That fucking crook destroyed our football program and is still getting 200k pay raises when our athletic department is in debt. He and Sherman need to GTFO.

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

That was such a bad game. Offense left the defense out way too long. The only good thing about the game was the video they played during halftime asking the players which one of them spent the most time on their appearance in the locker room. shit was funny

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

Oh and if we play like that, the only game I see us possible winning is KU

[DesignatedT]

That was such a bad game. Offense left the defense out way too long. The only good thing about the game was the video they played during halftime asking the players which one of them spent the most time on their appearance in the locker room. shit was funny

:lol That was a pretty good video. I liked C-Mike "you look good, you play good"

[johngateswhiteley]

I just need the Spurs to start already. Whole fucking program is a joke. Everyone needs to go and Byrne is the first one. That fucking crook destroyed our football program and is still getting 200k pay raises when our athletic department is in debt. He and Sherman need to GTFO.

Byrne has done a great job, actually. Aside from that, the football team is a bit baffling. They are top 25 in talent year after year, but it does not translate to the field. I'm not sure how the defense can go from crap to good and the offense from pretty good to very inconsistent, in one year. JJ is struggling bad and our new D coordinator is money. Maybe its that simple

[Blake]

Sherm was a lame hire from day 1.

They played it way too safe.

[DesignatedT]

Byrne has done a great job, actually. Aside from that, the football team is a bit baffling. They are top 25 in talent year after year, but it does not translate to the field. I'm not sure how the defense can go from crap to good and the offense from pretty good to very inconsistent, in one year. JJ is struggling bad and our new D coordinator is money. Maybe its that simple

Byrne has helped other sports at the university no doubt but at the same time i dgaf about our Equestrian team. We are a football school and get less out of our players than any other school in the nation. Byrne has destroyed our football program while taking advantage of the most loyal fans in college football by increasing ticket prices at the same time. Then we finally get rid of Fran who was BB hire to begin with and we do what? Give an unproven college coach with no other offers a guaranteed 7 year contract. In over 2 years Sherman is 13-18 (3-15 against teams with winning records) at A&M- the worst start to a coaching career we have ever had. He has also lost 12 straight games on national TV. Our football program is 45-47 under Byrne. That is simply unacceptable. I dont care how the other sports are doing when our football is this embarrassing. The greatest part is were not even half way through Sherman's contract. What if Sherman ends up winning 1 more game this season which at this point seems possible... we end up 4-8 or 5-7. Is this acceptable? Does Sherman deserve another year? Well if we decide no than it is going to cost us over 7 million to buyout his 7 year guaranteed contract that BB ponied up. I am rooting for Sherman, and am hoping he can turn it around I really am. I have been watching this shit for too long and its time for a change. As a current student these people need to start being held accountable. I don't expect Byrne to be here past this year (expect a retirement coming) and I hope Sherman can somehow turn it around but I don't see anything better than a 6-6 season this year giving his grand total to (4-8, 6-6, 6-6) worse than fran.

and If JJ is the 1 big problem we have (which it isn't) than move his ass to the bench. I'm done making excuses for this team until I see some fucking effort and accountability taking place in house. Byrne has got to go.

Here are some notable goodies Sherman has been able to accomplish in just 2 years as our coach

- Loss to Arkansas State
-66 point loss to OU at home
-20 point loss to Baylor
-40 point loss to tu
-62-14 loss to Kansas state
-65-10 loss to OU

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Byrne has helped other sports at the university no doubt but at the same time i dgaf about our Equestrian team. We are a football school and get less out of our players than any other school in the nation. Byrne has destroyed our football program while taking advantage of the most loyal fans in college football by increasing ticket prices at the same time. Then we finally get rid of Fran who was BB hire to begin with and we do what? Give an unproven college coach with no other offers a guaranteed 7 year contract. In over 2 years Sherman is 13-18 (3-15 against teams with winning records) at A&M- the worst start to a coaching career we have ever had. He has also lost 12 straight games on national TV. Our football program is 45-47 under Byrne. That is simply unacceptable. I dont care how the other sports are doing when our football is this embarrassing. The greatest part is were not even half way through Sherman's contract. What if Sherman ends up winning 1 more game this season which at this point seems possible... we end up 4-8 or 5-7. Is this acceptable? Does Sherman deserve another year? Well if we decide no than it is going to cost us over 7 million to buyout his 7 year guaranteed contract that BB ponied up. I am rooting for Sherman, and am hoping he can turn it around I really am. I have been watching this shit for too long and its time for a change. As a current student these people need to start being held accountable. I don't expect Byrne to be here past this year (expect a retirement coming) and I hope Sherman can somehow turn it around but I don't see anything better than a 6-6 season this year giving his grand total to (4-8, 6-6, 6-6) worse than fran.

and If JJ is the 1 big problem we have (which it isn't) than move his ass to the bench. I'm done making excuses for this team until I see some fucking effort and accountability taking place in house. Byrne has got to go.

Money. Every fucking word. I give BB props for strengthening our other sports. But at the end of the day, this is Texas and football is our marquee sport. Allowing Byrne to hide behind the strength of programs not central to the school is akin fans of KU or Duke allowing their AD's to bolster other programs while their vaunted hoops programs fall to ruin. It simply wouldn't fly there, and it shouldn't in College Station, either.

[coyotes_geek]

Sherm was a lame hire from day 1.

They played it way too safe.

This.

Sherm needs to go.

[djohn14]

Hey now give Missouri some credit...They are a good team. But yea Jerrod isnt very good. He can keep plays alive by scrambling and hes a physical speciman....just not much of a football player.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Hey now give Missouri some credit...They are a good team. But yea Jerrod isnt very good. He can keep plays alive by scrambling and hes a physical speciman....just not much of a football player.

Oh absolutely. I don't think any of us Aggies are doing Mizzou a disservice here. They came ready to play, shut up the 12th Man right out the gate like they said they wanted to do, and generally kicked our Aggie asses up and down our own field all afternoon.

My problem comes with the way we responded. Complete lack of focus/intensity. Instead of attempting to answer, our team collectively curled up into the fetal position. That's a problem. It's one thing to get your ass beat when you're playing hard--it sucks, but I won't criticize it. On the other hand, getting blown out and the team acting like there was little amiss and they had all the time in the world to get back into the game is inexcusable. That points to piss poor coaching.

Like I said, props to Mizzou--they were clearly the better team. I just want to see some fight out of these "fightin'" Texas Aggie players.

[johngateswhiteley]

I have enjoyed the overall success of A&M athletics, and think Byrne should be judged, mainly, on that. I will not deny the current state of the football program, but we have not been good for quite some time. When Franchione left, the program was not in the best situation...and Fran was a sought after coach. Anyone can make a mistake. I'm not happy with the football program, but I try to be patient.

As for JJ, he has been the main problem, imo. His accuracy is atrocious and appears to have worsened after the back to back 4 interception games. Mentally or physically, he is not all there. The o-line is not the best, but I'm not hanging it on them.

[DesignatedT]

Just sayin'... even if we wanted to buy Sherman out right now it would be close to $8 million dollars to do so and we still owe fran about $4 million dollars. Our athletic department is already close to 20 million in debt and whoever is recklessly throwing this kind of money around and giving 7 year contracts up front should be held accountable. (byrne) So he turned some sports around... that's great and the next AD should look to keep that going and build on that but he has torn this football program apart and that is not only the most popular sport among fans but also our main source of income for our athletic department.

[johngateswhiteley]

Just sayin'... even if we wanted to buy Sherman out right now it would be close to $8 million dollars to do so and we still owe fran about $4 million dollars. Our athletic department is already close to 20 million in debt and whoever is recklessly throwing this kind of money around and giving 7 year contracts up front should be held accountable. (byrne) So he turned some sports around... that's great and the next AD should look to keep that going and build on that but he has torn this football program apart and that is not only the most popular sport among fans but also our main source of income for our athletic department.

I was not up to date on the 7 year contract, if true, which is absurd.

[DesignatedT]

I was not up to date on the 7 year contract, if true, which is absurd.

Sherman got a guaranteed 7 year contract worth 1.8 million annually. Lets just hope he can turn it around. If JJ is indeed the problem than Sherman needs to move him to the bench and give Tannehill a shot. It starts this weekend at Kansas.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Sherman got a guaranteed 7 year contract worth 1.8 million annually. Lets just hope he can turn it around. If JJ is indeed the problem than Sherman needs to move him to the bench and give Tannehill a shot. It starts this weekend at Kansas.

If JJ sucks again, he shouldn't make it past halftime. RT gets PT. If JJ is brilliant and we're blowing 'em out in the 3rd, take out JJ and put in RT. Either way, RT must start getting some real in-game experience.

Oh, and for the record, I love JJ--but part of why he was ready to go when McGee left was because he was given a shot to actually play (not just give handoffs) before he took over the reins of the offense full time. And perhaps ironically, many of the same people calling for Tannehill now were screaming for JJ a few years ago.

When the offense is struggling, the most popular player on the team is always the backup QB :lol

[DesignatedT]

If JJ sucks again, he shouldn't make it past halftime. RT gets PT. If JJ is brilliant and we're blowing 'em out in the 3rd, take out JJ and put in RT. Either way, RT must start getting some real in-game experience.

Oh, and for the record, I love JJ--but part of why he was ready to go when McGee left was because he was given a shot to actually play (not just give handoffs) before he took over the reins of the offense full time. And perhaps ironically, many of the same people calling for Tannehill now were screaming for JJ a few years ago.

When the offense is struggling, the most popular player on the team is always the backup QB :lol

Definitely. It seems Sherman is scared to throw Tannehill out there. I love JJ also but its evident that he isn't the same QB as last season. The shoulder surgery he had this summer obviously hurt him for the worse and his confidence level is at an all time low. If this continues than Tannehill has to get in the game. This doesn't mean JJ has to be benched the whole year either. There are teams that use 2 quarterbacks much like Florida last year and for example, Nebraska last week who saw Martinez struggle against Texas and put in the backup.

It's just a shitty situation were in really and it shouldn't be this way at all. I'm hoping Manziel can come in and make an immediate impact next year.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

How bad would things be if the Aggie Nation had gone to the SEC?

[symple19]

How bad would things be if the Aggie Nation had gone to the SEC?

:lmao:lmao they would be last in the west

[symple19]

and the worst team in the whole conference other than Vandy, perennially :lol

[DesignatedT]

Most Aggies were willing to acknowledge that the transition to the SEC would be rough. We would definitely be a lower tier program for a good while before becoming relevant in that conference but look at Arkansas as a prime example. They were nothing spectacular when they first joined the conference and now look at them. If they can be a force in that conference than A&M with the right people in charge could be a force in any conference, we are right in the middle of the best recruiting hole in all of college football. It's a shame how mediocre we have been for the past decade all due to retarded hires/fires and extensions.

[DesignatedT]

How bad would things be if the Aggie Nation had gone to the SEC?

Well we would have the same record as we have now and would probably end up with the same overall record we will end up this year in the big 12. Best we do this season is 7-5, worse is 4-8 which are all possibilities at this point. Fucking embarrassing but not any worse tbh

[johngateswhiteley]

How bad would things be if the Aggie Nation had gone to the SEC?

not as bad as if they joined the Pac-10.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Most Aggies were willing to acknowledge that the transition to the SEC would be rough. We would definitely be a lower tier program for a good while before becoming relevant in that conference but look at Arkansas as a prime example. They were nothing spectacular when they first joined the conference and now look at them. If they can be a force in that conference than A&M with the right people in charge could be a force in any conference, we are right in the middle of the best recruiting hole in all of college football. It's a shame how mediocre we have been for the past decade all due to retarded hires/fires and extensions.

Allow me to submit LSU to the discussion as well. No, they weren't a perennial doormat, but their once-proud football program had lost a step or two when they joined the SEC. Then 2003 rolls around and the shitty BCS does it's thing.....

Point is, if you stink, you're going to stink in any conference. SEC teams playing each other week in and week out, however, definitely makes them stronger in the long run. People practically worship the ground SEC teams walk on, because they know those squads have been in battle week in and week out.

It's just ridiculous that we haven't been able to find any stability in the past decade. I grew up watching Aggie football, and we had some DAMN good squads in the 90s (80s as well, but my memory doesn't extend back that far).

I will say I believe the pieces are in place--the Tim DeRuyter hire is making a big impact on the defensive end, as anyone who's followed our typically porous secondary can attest. Plus, you've got Aggie great Dat Nguyen coaching the inside linebackers (my bro is an ILB--the D doesn't get to take a down off in practice. Problem is, they never get a decent blow during games, either).

Sorry, was rambling a little. Bottom line: we need a shakeup NOW. No more excuses. We don't have to blow up the entire coaching staff, but we've got to get someone in here that can get our teams in the right mindset to play, because we've had huge issues with preparedness and overall will to win for far too long.

[DesignatedT]

Sherman has got to change 2 things immediately.

1. His play calling has to change, whatever he's been doing hasn't been working and he desperately needs to realize this. Like you said above, the defense is out there way to long and there were times last week where less than a minute went off the clock while we had the ball before we sent them back out there. He has to find a way to pick up first downs and keep the time of possession up.

2. It seems Jerrod is going to start again, this should be his last chance. We are playing the worst opponent left on our schedule that Baylor beat 55-7. If he can't get it done against this team than its time for a new QB immediately. Especially if he starts turning the ball over.

[Blake]

2. It seems Jerrod is going to start again, this should be his last chance. We are playing the worst opponent left on our schedule that Baylor beat 55-7. If he can't get it done against this team than its time for a new QB immediately. Especially if he starts turning the ball over.

I have a hard time believing that JJ won't start against Tech in two weeks, even if he has a bad game this Saturday.

[DesignatedT]

I have a hard time believing that JJ won't start against Tech in two weeks, even if he has a bad game this Saturday.

You're probably right unless we lose to Kansas. Than Sherman will have no choice IMO.

[K-State Spur]

Look at Arkansas as a prime example. They were nothing spectacular when they first joined the conference and now look at them.

That's really not true. Arkansas won ALL their 13 conference titles and 1 MNC all as a member of the SWC. In fact, they won 2 out of the last 4 SWC championships before they jumped to the SEC. They did have 2 bad years leading up to the maneuver, but that had more to do with hiring Crowe than their current conference state.

As for what has happened since, Arkansas has had a grand total of ONE 10 win season in all their SEC years. Don't let their current top 25 ranking fool you - the Razorbacks have been a COLOSSAL disappointment since changing conferences.

Now, the SEC jump was obviously a great move for them from a revenue perspective, but it clearly has not provided them with any significant gains in on-field success.

[Blake]

You're probably right unless we lose to Kansas. Than Sherman will have no choice IMO.

if A&M loses to Kansas, Sherman should fire himself.

[Blake]

That's really not true. Arkansas won ALL their 13 conference titles and 1 MNC all as a member of the SWC. In fact, they won 2 out of the last 4 SWC championships before they jumped to the SEC. They did have 2 bad years leading up to the maneuver, but that had more to do with hiring Crowe than their current conference state.

As for what has happened since, Arkansas has had a grand total of ONE 10 win season in all their SEC years.

Now, the SEC jump was obviously a great move for them from a revenue perspective, but it clearly has not provided them with any significant gains in on-field success.

this.

It's not true at all.

Arkansas was a regular national power like USC, UT, and Florida are today.

The 69 game between UT and Ark is one of the greatest games of all time.