LeBron James Trophy Case…

[Sportcamper]

The more things change, the more they stay the same…

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[BadOdor]

is that koriwhat in the picture?

[#2!]

there should be 2 mvp's in that case.

And also the coveted "America used to like me but now thinks I'm a douche" award. aka the Richard Nixon Trophy. Its not given every year, only when a national figure really fucks his own shit up.

[HarlemHeat37]

He has 2 MVP trophies..Fail..

[jdiggy0424]

In 5 years I see 2 Championships and 4 MVP's in that case.

[#2!]

In 5 years I see 2 Championships and 4 MVP's in that case.

Probably not 2 more MVPs. Its possible, but he'll be getting the "but he has so much help" line from alot of the voters now. I'd put money on 1, and you do give him 5 years to do it so its not a huge stretch, but it'll be alot harder than when he was the clear-cut "man" on his team.

[jdiggy0424]

Since the MVP voting system is so screwed up and biased i feel that in that stretch the heat will win 65+ games and Stern (because of there success and homerism towards lebron, ratings etc) will give Lebron the award at least 2 more times in that span. Voters will vote for him, and dont be suprised if he puts up numbers close to 27 10 and 8. He is going to be playing a lot of minutes and his stats will probably be inflated due to it.

[jdiggy0424]

Plus hes Lebron, and just like Kobe no matter if we love him or hate him, we love to watch him. Just ask Kobe.

[#2!]

Since the MVP voting system is so screwed up and biased i feel that in that stretch the heat will win 65+ games and Stern (because of there success and homerism towards lebron, ratings etc) will give Lebron the award at least 2 more times in that span. Voters will vote for him, and dont be suprised if he puts up numbers close to 27 10 and 8. He is going to be playing a lot of minutes and his stats will probably be inflated due to it.

I think he has a real shot at being the second guy to ever average a triple double for an entire season. He's already pretty close, and with this Heat team there are 1.) Much better players to throw passes too, and 2.) A lack of rebounding in some of their lineups which creates an opportunity for boards. Plus he's always talked about how much he likes passing. Idk that he'll have 27 ppg in this hypothetical season though.

If he does that, its a guaranteed MVP.

[Giuseppe]

The more things change, the more they stay the same…

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Miami's would be just as empty if Dallas had an ounce of gumption.

[jdiggy0424]

I think he has a real shot at being the second guy to ever average a triple double for an entire season. He's already pretty close, and with this Heat team there are 1.) Much better players to throw passes too, and 2.) A lack of rebounding in some of their lineups which creates an opportunity for boards. Plus he's always talked about how much he likes passing. Idk that he'll have 27 ppg in this hypothetical season though.

If he does that, its a guaranteed MVP.

Yeah i see that happening too. When i brought up the idea to my cousins, they just laughed at me lol. But he can rebound, pass and score. Maybe if he rebounds well and the heat become one of the better defensive teams, then he has a legitimate shot at winning a DPOY too. Maybe not both in the same season, but one or the other at least.

[Ace]

Very clever, your just so smart.

[Darrin]

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Days away from his 26th birthday...I wish I had his trophy case.

[duhoh]

lol darrin > thread.

[Ashy Larry]

not a bad collection of hardware for LeBron

[badfish22]

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Days away from his 26th birthday...I wish I had his cock in me.

[Darrin]

^^^ Nah, not my type.

[Giuseppe]

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Days away from his 26th birthday...I wish I had his trophy case.

Can ya imagine us lodgin' this shit with Kobe's name on it as a defense for being ringless?

Fuck me.

[TheMACHINE]

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Days away from his 26th birthday...I wish I had his trophy case.

Kobe says "Congrats" on the 2nd Regular Season MVP and that Bronze Medal.

http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab177/LMAOxROFL/6h0p78.jpg

[Darrin]

So, in other words his career is pretty much like Barkley's. At least Chuck can boast of winning a game in the finals.

The difference is that Lebron James is on the best team of his career and is 26-years-old to Barkley retiring at 36. Give James another ten years. Barkley was 3 years older than Lebron when he won his only two Finals games. In terms of scoring, James has a better average in all but one season that would best Barkley's second-best year. He has double the amount of MVPs, he has won 4 more games in a regular season than Barkley. I don't think it's a great comparison.

[Darrin]

Kobe says "Congrats" on the 2nd Regular Season MVP and that Bronze Medal.

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Name me MVP candidates that Lebron James has played with in his career. Name me top-five at their position players that James has played with. His best years and his best team is infront of him. Let's see what he does with it.

Mo Williams is the best teammate that he's played with. Shaquille O'Neal is Kobe's best teammate. Pau Gasol is ten times better than anyone who has suited up with Lebron.

[ace3g]

espn ESPN
LeBron James leaves Miami Heat game, walks to locker room - http://es.pn/cqjXYF

[Ashy Larry]

LeBron > Heat Index

[LkrFan]

He has 2 MVP trophies..Fail..
So does Nash. Your point is??? :lol

[LkrFan]

Name me MVP candidates that Lebron James has played with in his career. Name me top-five at their position players that James has played with. His best years and his best team is infront of him. Let's see what he does with it.

Mo Williams is the best teammate that he's played with. Shaquille O'Neal is Kobe's best teammate. Pau Gasol is ten times better than anyone who has suited up with Lebron.

I disagree Darrin. Before Pau was a Laker, he was best known as going 0-12 in the playoffs. He wasn't even a top 10 PF - until now. It must be a testament to Kobe actually making his teammates better that you and many other NBA fans have such a high regard for him. I agree, Pau is really good, but the teammates that LeHype had on his team came with bigger "names" than Gasol (i.e. Shaq, Jamison). Difference is Kobe knew how to make him better. Can't say the same for LeHype.

[#2!]

Very clever, your just so smart.

:idiot

[crc21209]

What a waste of a thread..

[Giuseppe]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/93/229524265_d496861e12.jpg?v=0

:lmao

[TheHeatIsOn]

Gasol is not 10 times better than Jamison. Let's keep it in perspective. You guys only say Lebron has no help when he loses.

Gasol is in his prime foo! while the nigga Jamison is passed that shit. See the difference mane??

[HarlemHeat37]

So does Nash. Your point is??? :lol

Um, that Lebron has trophies? LOL, man, you're such a bad poster..


I disagree Darrin. Before Pau was a Laker, he was best known as going 0-12 in the playoffs. He wasn't even a top 10 PF - until now. It must be a testament to Kobe actually making his teammates better that you and many other NBA fans have such a high regard for him. I agree, Pau is really good, but the teammates that LeHype had on his team came with bigger "names" than Gasol (i.e. Shaq, Jamison). Difference is Kobe knew how to make him better. Can't say the same for LeHype.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[LkrFan]

Um, that Lebron has trophies? LOL, man, you're such a bad poster..



:lmao:lmao:lmao

Nash = 2x MVP...with trophies! (0 Rings)
LeHype = 2x MVP...with trophies! (0 Rings)

And before Pau came to LA, he was not considered a top 10 PF. He was good, but not what he is now. There were many PFs that fans would have said were better than Pau...but they don't anymore. :toast

[Koolaid_Man]

Gasol is not 10 times better than Jamison. Let's keep it in perspective. You guys only say Lebron has no help when he loses.


here ya go luva don't worry - 2011 trophy already in there...:lol

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[Ace]

I disagree Darrin. Before Pau was a Laker, he was best known as going 0-12 in the playoffs. He wasn't even a top 10 PF - until now. It must be a testament to Kobe actually making his teammates better that you and many other NBA fans have such a high regard for him. I agree, Pau is really good, but the teammates that LeHype had on his team came with bigger "names" than Gasol (i.e. Shaq, Jamison). Difference is Kobe knew how to make him better. Can't say the same for LeHype.

Or maybe its that Kobe's Lakers are just that much more stacked compare to Gasol's Grizzlies.

[Giuseppe]

It all depends on how it's couched, rat.

[Darrin]

I disagree Darrin. Before Pau was a Laker, he was best known as going 0-12 in the playoffs. He wasn't even a top 10 PF - until now. It must be a testament to Kobe actually making his teammates better that you and many other NBA fans have such a high regard for him. I agree, Pau is really good, but the teammates that LeHype had on his team came with bigger "names" than Gasol (i.e. Shaq, Jamison). Difference is Kobe knew how to make him better. Can't say the same for LeHype.

Shaq slowed down the offense and made the Cavaliers more of a plotting team. Jamison did almost nothing because the offense asked him to just take jumpshots. Take it up with Mike Brown.

Gasol was getting 20-10-2 as a starter in Memphis. He didn't have a team around him. His greatness was realized, the rest of the team wasn't around him.

[Ace]

It all depends on how it's couched, rat.

Troll keep on trolling

[Giuseppe]

And you keep on snitchin', fink.

[Ace]

And you keep on snitchin', fink.

Link?

[Giuseppe]

I don't links. It's my religion. But, both you & Vulv ratted me out, and ya's know it.

Tattletales!

[Sportcamper]

The biggest basketball story this year is that Lebron James is joining Chris Bosh and Dwayne Wade in Miami... You know the saying: if you can't take the Heat, join them...

[Sportcamper]

LeBron James is set to release his own line of headphones... The sound quality is amazing as it has no ring...

[Sportcamper]

In Miami, LeBron should be able to do what he does best...drive the lane..unless, of course, he gets behind a senior with his turn signal on...

[TheMACHINE]

Name me MVP candidates that Lebron James has played with in his career. Name me top-five at their position players that James has played with. His best years and his best team is infront of him. Let's see what he does with it.

Mo Williams is the best teammate that he's played with. Shaquille O'Neal is Kobe's best teammate. Pau Gasol is ten times better than anyone who has suited up with Lebron.


ok lets look at the 2010 squad which Lebron got the #1 winning record

Lebron's teamates:
Shaquille O'Neal - All Star, MVP, Finals MVP
Big Z - All Star
Antawn Jamison - All Star
Mo Williams - All Star

Kobe's teamates:
Gasol - All-Star
Ron Artest - All Star


BTW, did you think the Cavs were gonna get eliminated in the 2nd round before the playoffs started?

[TheMACHINE]

Shaq slowed down the offense and made the Cavaliers more of a plotting team. Jamison did almost nothing because the offense asked him to just take jumpshots. Take it up with Mike Brown.

Gasol was getting 20-10-2 as a starter in Memphis. He didn't have a team around him. His greatness was realized, the rest of the team wasn't around him.


lol @ the excuses.....


Your first paragraph shows that Lebron couldnt even play with great players.

Your second paragraph shows that Kobe made players around him better.

[21_Blessings]

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Not bad for a guy that will be remembered as an underachieving 2nd fiddle.


.Lebron wishes he had Kobe's trophy case.
:lobt: :lobt: :lobt: :lobt: :lobt: :lobt2:
:rollin :rollin :rollin

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Did "Each Day Offers Potential" seriously show a pic of that bronze medal like it was an accomplishment?

[21_Blessings]

Did "Each Day Offers Potential" seriously show a pic of that bronze medal like it was an accomplishment?

Losing to a backwater country like Greece is hard damn work.

[Ace]

I don't links. It's my religion. But, both you & Vulv ratted me out, and ya's know it.

Tattletales!

Of course you don't, cause then you'd actually have to prove the nonsense you spill.

[Darrin]

ok lets look at the 2010 squad which Lebron got the #1 winning record

Lebron's teamates:
Shaquille O'Neal - All Star, MVP, Finals MVP
Big Z - All Star
Antawn Jamison - All Star
Mo Williams - All Star

Kobe's teamates:
Gasol - All-Star
Ron Artest - All Star


BTW, did you think the Cavs were gonna get eliminated in the 2nd round before the playoffs started?

No, but I didn't expect the 67-win Mavericks to flame out in the first round or the 64-win Detroit Pistons to miss the NBA Finals. Sometimes teams are hotter than others and they simply lose.

Shaquille O'Neal -- 37-years-old.
Zydrunas Ilgauskas -- 34-years-old.
Antawn Jamison -- 33-years-old with multiple knee injuries.


O'Neal was washed up. The Suns tried to rely on him and didn't get very far with the same squad that made the Conference Finals last season. Antawn Jamison's best days are behind him.

Let me paint in hyperbole: If Joe Dumars and Isiah Thomas were pulled off the street and signed by the Pistons, would they have a better chance to win an NBA Championship than Chauncey Billups and Richard Hamilton because they won 2 Finals MVPs and 2 Championships between them? You have to consider where these players were in their careers.

At this point, I would take Lamar Odom over any of the players you mentioned.

Mo Williams wasn't an All-Star before he played with Lebron. Doesn't that defeat the theory that he doesn't make teammates better?

[Darrin]

Not bad for a guy that will be remembered as an underachieving 2nd fiddle.


:lobt: :lobt: :lobt: :lobt: :lobt: :lobt2:
:rollin :rollin :rollin

Give him six more years. You are comparing a 26-year-old to a 32-year-old with 198 playoff games under his belt. One of those is assumed and it's a heavy assumption. The other five come with a caveat--he lost badly to both the Pistons in 2004, while shooting 33% in the 4 losses, and to the Boston Celtics in 2008, with a 35-point blowout in game six and they blew a lead in LA, let the Celtics take a 3-1 series lead. That's with playing for Phil Jackson and having Karl Malone, Gary Payton, Shaquille O'Neal or Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom as teammates.

[TheMACHINE]

No, but I didn't expect the 67-win Mavericks to flame out in the first round or the 64-win Detroit Pistons to miss the NBA Finals. Sometimes teams are hotter than others and they simply lose.



So are you saying that the Cavs underachieved to your expectations?

[Darrin]

So are you saying that the Cavs underachieved to your expectations?

Yes, but that doesn't mean that it's a referendum on a 26-year-old and his ability to lead a team. One, he's young. Two, he's not the coach. Three, he's not the GM. Four, he bolted for basketball reasons because the team was strapped for cash and what would that team look like in two years?

[TheMACHINE]

Yes, but that doesn't mean that it's a referendum on a 26-year-old and his ability to lead a team. One, he's young. Two, he's not the coach. Three, he's not the GM. Four, he bolted for basketball reasons because the team was strapped for cash and what would that team look like in two years?

ok so let me get this straight...You think the Cavs have a crappy team, yet they got the best record twice in a row...

To top all that, you also thought they underacheived and should have gotten past the 2nd round, yet you think that Lebrons teammates sucks.

Wow...thats alot of expectations on a team that sucks.

Gee, you must have expected the Mavericks, OKC, Boston and San Antonio to win it all since thier team is more stacked then the Cavs right. :rolleyes

[TheGreatest23]

It's simple really. Lebron cant lead a team, thats why he bolted to be second fiddle.

[erikuff]

So are you saying that the Cavs underachieved to your expectations?

TheMACHINE, you are an idiot. According to you, the 2004 Lakers team with Malone (2x MVP), Payton (9x allstar), Shaq and Kobe was the biggest disappointing team in NBA history? And that pays a testament to Kobe's legacy: couldn't even win with these 4 "superstars" on his team. :rolleyes

[TheGreatest23]

He cant lead a team, thats why needed Kobe to get him a Gold Medal.

[TheMACHINE]

TheMACHINE, you are an idiot. According to you, the 2004 Lakers team with Malone (2x MVP), Payton (9x allstar), Shaq and Kobe was the biggest disappointing team in NBA history? And that pays a testament to Kobe's legacy: couldn't even win with these 4 "superstars" on his team. :rolleyes

yes..that was a disapointment.

But i ask you this genius. Was it Kobe's team or Shaq's?

[erikuff]

He cant lead a team, thats why needed Kobe to get him a Gold Medal.

Give him a team with a relevant star or two.... Er, Cleveland couldn't do that.

[TheGreatest23]

Give him a team with a relevant star or two.... Er, Cleveland couldn't do that.

You're right. Give Lebron a Finals MVP next to him and another top 10 player in Bosh so he can win. lol

[TheGreatest23]

TheMACHINE, you are an idiot. According to you, the 2004 Lakers team with Malone (2x MVP), Payton (9x allstar), Shaq and Kobe was the biggest disappointing team in NBA history? And that pays a testament to Kobe's legacy: couldn't even win with these 4 "superstars" on his team. :rolleyes

it definatley took a hit in Kobe's legacy, but he made up for it when he rang 2 more.

[erikuff]

You're right. Give Lebron a Finals MVP next to him and another top 10 player in Bosh so he can win. lol

Sounds like what Jordan got and similar to what Kobe has had right?

[TheMACHINE]

Sounds like what Jordan got and similar to what Kobe has had right?

Kobe had another "finals MVP" next to him these past 2 years?

[erikuff]

yes..that was a disapointment.

But i ask you this genius. Was it Kobe's team or Shaq's?

Depends on how you wanna look at Kobe's legacy. Failed to deliver with a monster team like that, or was just one of the 4 and Shaq was the ringleader, which means he rode those first 3 of his.

[erikuff]

Kobe had another "finals MVP" next to him these past 2 years?

Did the word similar lose meaning in the English dictionary in the last few minutes?

[TheMACHINE]

Depends on how you wanna look at Kobe's legacy. Failed to deliver with a monster team like that, or was just one of the 4 and Shaq was the ringleader, which means he rode those first 3 of his.

To each his own....you just proved that you are biased. Give credit to Shaq for winning and blame Kobe for losing right?

[TheMACHINE]

Did the word similar lose meaning in the English dictionary in the last few minutes?

Either you are a "MVP" or you are not. You're not very good at being decisive.

[SanAntonioHeat]

Give him a team with a relevant star or two.... Er, Cleveland couldn't do that.

erikuff, please send me your address. I shall send you a "welcome gift basket" for joining our fanbase.

[TheGreatest23]

Did the word similar lose meaning in the English dictionary in the last few minutes?


Either you are a "MVP" or you are not. You're not very good at being decisive.

tomatoes, potatoes.....same thing. :lmao

[erikuff]

To each his own....you just proved that you are biased. Give credit to Shaq for winning and blame Kobe for losing right?

Says the guy who doesn't consider age when looking at a team.
However you wanna put it.
- kobe won 3 titles as the man, and just failed on one attempt with the best team he's had.
or
- kobe was second fiddle for his first 3, and didn't lead the losing allstar team

[TheMACHINE]

Says the guy who doesn't consider age when looking at a team.
However you wanna put it.
- kobe won 3 titles as the man, and just failed on one attempt with the best team he's had.
or
- kobe was second fiddle for his first 3, and didn't lead the losing allstar team

or Kobe was second fiddle for 3 titles...failed in one with the best team he's ever had, then won two more titles with a lesser cast then his 3 first ones.

Im not biased like you...i aint cutting out FACTS to help support my case.

[TheNextGen]

Take erikuff out of the SA Heat fan base. He making us look bad with his whacked arguements.

Not even sure if he is trolling or not. LMAO!

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Three, he's not the GM.
Actually he was, he could approve/disapprove any trade involving Cleveland.

[ohmwrecker]

Take erikuff out of the SA Heat fan base. He making us look bad with his whacked arguements.

Not even sure if he is trolling or not. LMAO!

I thought all you SA Heat people were trolls.

[#2!]

To each his own....you just proved that you are biased. Give credit to Shaq for winning and blame Kobe for losing right?

I remember it wasn't just fans saying that 04 was Kobe's year to start taking over the team. They spoke of it on TV during the finals that year.

[TheMACHINE]

I remember it wasn't just fans saying that 04 was Kobe's year to start taking over the team. They spoke of it on TV during the finals that year.

yah...must be easy to take over a team with veteran leaders like Shaq, Gary Payton and Karl Malone. :rolleyes

[DeadlyDynasty]

erikuff, please send me your address. I shall send you a "welcome gift basket" for joining our fanbase.

I hope you got those baskets on back-order...I'm sure plenty more SAH fans are out there.

[Darrin]

ok so let me get this straight...You think the Cavs have a crappy team, yet they got the best record twice in a row...

To top all that, you also thought they underacheived and should have gotten past the 2nd round, yet you think that Lebrons teammates sucks.

Wow...thats alot of expectations on a team that sucks.

Gee, you must have expected the Mavericks, OKC, Boston and San Antonio to win it all since thier team is more stacked then the Cavs right. :rolleyes

One, I didn't say they suck. I said they don't have the same level of talent as the Lakers during Kobe Bryant's five Championship teams. To have the record, despite the weak Conference, indicates they should do more in the postseason, not the way the talent plays together or how it looks on paper or how that relates to the talent around Bryant.

[erikuff]

I hope you got those baskets on back-order...I'm sure plenty more SAH fans are out there.

Glad to see i stirred things up a bit :stirpot:

EDIT:


yah...must be easy to take over a team with veteran leaders like Shaq, Gary Payton and Karl Malone. :rolleyes

What happened to Phil? :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol I bet TheMachine actually believes what he's written in this thread..

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lol I bet TheMachine actually believes what he's written in this thread..

did your gift basket come with the unsalted or honey-roasted nuts?