Women in sports...

[Darrin]

Something tells me this thread will go over like a lead balloon, but I thought I would try it anyway. The recent Brett Favre scandal has forced some to reconsider the role of women in sports. From the comments by PTI's co-host over Hannah Storm to Cheerleaders and the attitude from some on here over women's basketball, I am led to wonder: is there any place for women in this world where they will get any respect?

[Giuseppe]

Don't judge all men on the behavior of Favre. He'd already cheated on his wife before when she was fighting breast cancer.

[monosylab1k]

Women get plenty of respect when they act like professionals. When they dress like a whore and walk around with their tits hanging out, what the hell do they expect?

if The Situation became a sports reporter but still acted like a douchebag and popped his shirt off at every opportunity, and STILL was treated and respected like a normal sports reporter, THEN there's a problem.

[Giuseppe]

Mono is right:::women by and large use what's below their neck. Men by and large use what's above their neck.

[HeatBurn305]

I remember when 'ol Cubby, Hubby, and IMex met up with Sterger twixt 18 summers ago when she had just befallen puberty, luva in the car with the chloroform rag.

tee, hee

[Giuseppe]

She smelled like a grape.

[mudyez]

I'm a womens basketball coach for nearly ten years now!


...lets start the bashing of me!!! :(

[Darrin]

Women get plenty of respect when they act like professionals. When they dress like a whore and walk around with their tits hanging out, what the hell do they expect?

if The Situation became a sports reporter but still acted like a douchebag and popped his shirt off at every opportunity, and STILL was treated and respected like a normal sports reporter, THEN there's a problem.

Are you aware of the drunken Joe Namath incident? He propositioned a sideline reporter completely covered and simply interviewing him at a game. You call that "a lot of respect?"

Are you saying that Tony Kornheiser should've made those comments about Hannah Storm because she wore a skirt on-air doing Sportscenter? He essentially called her too old for the outfit. No one ever has called him "too bald to be on TV."

Women are treated as trophies in this profession. They are treated like this which opens up jobs to be exploited for their looks. Isn't the culture to blame here somewhat?

[monosylab1k]

Are you aware of the drunken Joe Namath incident? He propositioned a sideline reporter completely covered and simply interviewing him at a game. You call that "a lot of respect?"

So the rambling, barely coherent words of a drunken man are your argument? Joe Namath was so drunk he would have made out with Al Michaels (that probably gets you all hot and bothered crofl). That's not about the lack of respect for women in the profession, that's about ESPN AND SUZY KOLBER being retarded and letting a drunk old man on the air in the first place.

Also, can I counter with Andrea Kremer obviously trying to flirt on the air with Tom Brady?

RwwA6EJSdHg

You call that behavior deserving of respect?


Are you saying that Tony Kornheiser should've made those comments about Hannah Storm because she wore a skirt on-air doing Sportscenter? He essentially called her too old for the outfit. No one ever has called him "too bald to be on TV."

Every day Tony Kornheiser wears a dress shirt and tie on the air. That's appropriate dress for the job he's in. He never goes out there in a muscle shirt, he never wears a wifebeater, He doesn't get in front of the camera wearing jean shorts, or anything that could even be remotely described as inappropriate for a person on ESPN.

Hannah Storm wearing a short skirt would absolutely be inappropriate if that skirt is put on the air. If she had more respect for herself and her profession, she would wear something more formal and conservative on the air, just like every other man on the set is wearing.

And your "bald" argument is laughably obtuse. That's part of his physical appearance that he can't change. Nobody can fault him for that. Just like nobody can fault Shelley Smith for being fat (and btw, there's an example of a woman who is respected in her profession and never does anything to lose that respect.)

If Hannah Storm has nice legs or a great rack, fine. She can't lose respect for that. But she absolutely can lose respect, and ultimately show her lack of self respect, by wearing a short skirt to show off her legs, or a low cut blouse to show off her tits.


Women are treated as trophies in this profession.

Only when they PURPOSELY doll themselves up to look like trophies.


They are treated like this which opens up jobs to be exploited for their looks.

Robin Roberts has risen to great heights, getting her start in sports journalism, and never once did she feel the need to dress inappropriately or do anything to exploit her feminine wares. There's plenty of other female sports journalists who have done the same thing.

It's the sluts like Erin Andrews and Jen Sterger and that one Brazilian slut who give good female journalists a bad name. They whore themselves out, then get pissed when men treat them like the whores they've dressed up as. If you don't want to be treated like a whore, THEN DON'T WEAR A WHORE'S UNIFORM.

[ohmwrecker]

Most male sportscasters are bald, fat and unattractive. They dress conservatively because they should. There is nothing wrong with women in sports journalism dressing attractively. Hannah Storm looks good for her age and she dresses appropriately. These women are working in sports, not on Wall Street for chrissakes. That one chick who had the trouble in the Jets locker room is an extreme example, but she is not a respected journalist. Sports and entertainment go hand in hand. There is no rationale for women in the entertainment industry to dress conservatively. It's stupid.
Brett Farve, Ben Rothlisberger and the ilk get in trouble because they are idiots. These guys have mountains of opportunities and haven't had a real ego check since they were in high school. Two separate issues.

[ohmwrecker]

lakaluva, you've posted that clip before . . . you really relate to it, eh?

[ohmwrecker]

Not really. One comment, bro . . .

[BUMP]

http://cdn-ugc.cafemom.com/gen/resize/246/360/85/2010/10/08/11/hh/9b/pom5hmt40k1c6jl.jpg?imageId=19865908

:cry great fucking classy dressed reporter trying to do her job who just happens to be a woman :cry

[monosylab1k]

http://cdn-ugc.cafemom.com/gen/resize/246/360/85/2010/10/08/11/hh/9b/pom5hmt40k1c6jl.jpg?imageId=19865908

:cry great fucking classy dressed reporter trying to do her job who just happens to be a woman :cry

crofl, exactly!

if Jenn Sterger or whoever would dress professionally and not like they're some random skank off Jersey Shore, they'd get respect.

[ohmwrecker]

Is Jenn Sterger a reporter? I thought she was just a whore who went to Florida St. football games.

[monosylab1k]

she's a sideline reporter for the Jets. she also has done work for ESPN and ABC. If she dresses like a prostitute and then gets offended when men proposition her, she's a retarded cunt, end of story.

[xellos88330]

First impressions of people are made in the first 3 minutes of seeing them. First impression I get from that sideline reporter are thoughts of the filthy things I would do to her.

In short, "You want a story, I want to donkey punch you. Maybe we can work something out honey."

Women shouldn't get respect if they don't even respect themselves. If they are going to use their body to get ahead, then they are setting up to be looked at the same way from that point on. This is something that men have learned a long time ago.

Women will get respect once they earn it. The world has been male dominated for so long it is normalcy for a man to think they are superior. The world needs a woman who can beat the man at their own game. Hilary Clinton came close until she started sounding like a pissed off high school girl during the debates with Obama. There just aren't that many HIGHLY publicized females that are able to keep pace with men at their own game.

[Ashy Larry]

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Bitch ass Bynum was hurt in this clip as well .......:depressed

[DeadlyDynasty]

Something tells me this thread will go over like a lead balloon, but I thought I would try it anyway. The recent Brett Favre scandal has forced some to reconsider the role of women in sports. From the comments by PTI's co-host over Hannah Storm to Cheerleaders and the attitude from some on here over women's basketball, I am led to wonder: is there any place for women in this world where they will get any respect?

yeah, the kitchen.

[duhoh]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/duhoh/9432_802276713978_10706809_45662273_3701750_n.jpg

[DeadlyDynasty]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/duhoh/9432_802276713978_10706809_45662273_3701750_n.jpg

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Darrin]

she's a sideline reporter for the Jets. she also has done work for ESPN and ABC. If she dresses like a prostitute and then gets offended when men proposition her, she's a retarded cunt, end of story.

No, she's not. She was an in-stadium host for the game--interviewing fans and running games. She's not a reporter.

[DeadlyDynasty]

No, she's not. She was an in-stadium host for the game--interviewing fans and running games. She's not a reporter.

Darrin, you're going to stay a virgin if you keep up with this women's lib shit. Treat 'em rough, you get the muff.

[Darrin]

Darrin, you're going to stay a virgin if you keep up with this women's lib shit. Treat 'em rough, you get the muff.

:rollin I'm a virgin?!?

:rollin I need tips on how to get women?

:lmao

[DeadlyDynasty]

:rollin I'm a virgin?!?

:rollin I need tips on how to get women?

:lmao

Wasn't it you with the "is it bad to be 20-something and still a virgin" thread?
If not I apologize...

[Darrin]

Wasn't it you with the "is it bad to be 20-something and still a virgin" thread?
If not I apologize...

No, that wasn't me. I posted in there, but I was just encouraging the guy to either hook-up or own it and stop bitching.

[Will Hunting]

Lookit fuckstick, getting railed in the ass by your boyfriend doesn't count as losing your virginity.

[Darrin]

Lookit fuckstick, getting railed in the ass by your boyfriend doesn't count as losing your virginity.

I count all sexual acts with people. And no matter how you slice it, I'm not a virgin.

[Sisk]

So the rambling, barely coherent words of a drunken man are your argument? Joe Namath was so drunk he would have made out with Al Michaels (that probably gets you all hot and bothered crofl). That's not about the lack of respect for women in the profession, that's about ESPN AND SUZY KOLBER being retarded and letting a drunk old man on the air in the first place.

Also, can I counter with Andrea Kremer obviously trying to flirt on the air with Tom Brady?

RwwA6EJSdHg

You call that behavior deserving of respect?



Every day Tony Kornheiser wears a dress shirt and tie on the air. That's appropriate dress for the job he's in. He never goes out there in a muscle shirt, he never wears a wifebeater, He doesn't get in front of the camera wearing jean shorts, or anything that could even be remotely described as inappropriate for a person on ESPN.

Hannah Storm wearing a short skirt would absolutely be inappropriate if that skirt is put on the air. If she had more respect for herself and her profession, she would wear something more formal and conservative on the air, just like every other man on the set is wearing.

And your "bald" argument is laughably obtuse. That's part of his physical appearance that he can't change. Nobody can fault him for that. Just like nobody can fault Shelley Smith for being fat (and btw, there's an example of a woman who is respected in her profession and never does anything to lose that respect.)

If Hannah Storm has nice legs or a great rack, fine. She can't lose respect for that. But she absolutely can lose respect, and ultimately show her lack of self respect, by wearing a short skirt to show off her legs, or a low cut blouse to show off her tits.



Only when they PURPOSELY doll themselves up to look like trophies.



Robin Roberts has risen to great heights, getting her start in sports journalism, and never once did she feel the need to dress inappropriately or do anything to exploit her feminine wares. There's plenty of other female sports journalists who have done the same thing.

It's the sluts like Erin Andrews and Jen Sterger and that one Brazilian slut who give good female journalists a bad name. They whore themselves out, then get pissed when men treat them like the whores they've dressed up as. If you don't want to be treated like a whore, THEN DON'T WEAR A WHORE'S UNIFORM.


Preach!

[thispego]

I count all sexual acts with people. And no matter how you slice it, I'm not a virgin.

rofl

[Warlord23]

I go back a couple of years so I must say that I find it ironic coming from a Dallas Mavericks fan. I started watching during the 1990-91 season. Pre-Dirk, actually Pre-Dirk making a difference, you should know that feeling well.

1990-91: 28-54
1991-92: 22-60
1992-93: 11-71
1993-94: 13-69
1994-95: 36-46
1995-96: 26-56
1996-97: 24-58
1997-98: 20-62
1998-99: 19-31

I actually lopped off a losing season because Dirk was impressive the second-half of the 1999-00 season and they beat some good teams that year. If you're counting that's 10 seasons of losing and missing the postseason. My Pistons have never gone longer, in their entire history, than 6. I've never seen more than 3 consecutive losing seasons. The Pistons have known no worse season than 20 wins, the Mavericks, in my time of watching the NBA have 3 seasons at or below that mark.

But that's ancient history. I know what it's like to see my team win a Championship. I know what it's like to see them in the Conference Finals six consecutive years spanning 3 coaches, with and without Ben Wallace. I don't know what it's like to have an MVP, but I also don't know what it's like to watch a 67-win team flame-out in the first round. The Pistons got close to doing that in 2003, but they came back from 3-1 deficit and they only had an 8-game difference (because of a late-season losing streak by the Magic, it was about 4 games) between them and their opponent.

The biggie is that I haven't fallen for the preseason hype that my team, not happy with their standing in the NBA, could make a big jump next year. They won't. They are bad and I've seen them to prove it. On the other hand, the Dallas Mavericks winning the NBA Finals is as likely as my Pistons to do it.

[Warlord23]

I went to the scrimmage today. I was impressed by the Blue team which was comprised of Austin Daye, Greg Monroe, Ike Diogu, Tracy McGrady, Ben Wallace, and Will Bynum. Bynum scored the last points during the 20-2 drill (20 points on layups in 2 minutes) on an emphatic dunk that got me moving. He also dunked again during the scrimmage. Daye was good, but I didn't think he was the most impressive. That belonged to Bynum.

The white team we can waive. Stuckey still gets lost coming off screens, drives to the hole looking for contact and not knowing where he is. Jonas has lost his shot. Jason Maxiell only had one good moment, meeting Monroe at the rim. Rip Hamilton was going half-speed, Tayshaun Prince did nothing, and Terrico White has proved to be a lot of hype--Bynum definitely looked like the most athletic guy out there. That other Hamilton guy should be the first to leave camp. He did nothing.

From what I saw, I think Bynum is the starter at point guard by the end of the season. I think Ben Wallace is back in the lineup and Greg Monroe is a project. He looked unsure of himself and a little light in terms of strength. When the Pistons showcased him, he was okay. He had 3 guys on him at one point and tried make a move resulting in a turnover, and he had another shot met at the rim with Maxiell. He really relied upon Ben Wallace to tell him where to be, and Wallace was there to help. But man did he look raw.

T-Mac, who was on the blue team, can't jump. I don't see him doing a lot here, although all the knowledge of T-Mac is still in that body. He made some good moves, he just doesn't have any explosion on that jumper.

[Warlord23]

It's about social rejection. This is a student at a major university which means that he's had to bust his rump to get there and he's looking to impress someone. That's a lot stress and you can become hypersensitive to how things will look in the future, to trying to keep all the doors open. Failure and losing is not something that is accepted with that kind of pressure. You have to be a well-rounded student. He's also young and so losing is new to him, especially something like this. And he does see it as a loss. Hell, President Clinton couldn't handle this type of situation.

This culture of a lack of acceptance drives me nuts because it kills people!!! I won't live and let live until that stops because the opposing view comes with a body count. To quote someone out of context in a USA Today article on this incident with the angle of social media slamming everyone for living online, "Would it have made a difference if he were with a woman?"

The answer to that question is yes. He would gain more social status for that. This is something that follows him. He's looking to impress people. His self-esteem is tied to how he's perceived in school. It was devastating. It would be for anyone in his position. Would we all take the leap off the bridge? No. But we would need support at that time in friends and family. If they reject him, it makes it easier to do it.