Preseason Game 4 (10/14/10): Spurs vs Cavs

[ace3g]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Interesting sight at shootaround: Injured Splitter taking one-legged jumpers per Chip Engelland. For guy who can't shoot, Tiago looked OK.

[GinobiliForTres]

Parker, Timmy, Manu and RJ out tonight, as I read earlier. All of them are back in San Antonio.

Also, I really wish Tiago could actually play tonight.

[ace3g]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Filed to the blog: Parker has ankle tweak http://bit.ly/a3qCVo ... and a hat tip to @aamcneill48MoH for (sort of) noticing it first.

[GinobiliForTres]

Kind of disheartening that Parker is already feeling bad.

[ace3g]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Tonight more than ever about #spurs youngsters vying for final roster spots. Pop: "I really owe them a special responsibility to see them."

[mingus]

this game on t.v. or will it be streamed?

[GinobiliForTres]

It's streamed. Spurs.com says 1200 WOAI. I'll be watching on atdhe.net.

[biziofromdowntown]

what time?

[GinobiliForTres]

It's 7:30 Eastern.

[lefty]

lol Cavs

[ace3g]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Filed to Courtside blog: How #spurs helped DeJuan Blair become "full-fledged grownup." http://bit.ly/deo3Gm

[DesignatedT]

Kind of disheartening that Parker is already feeling bad.

Its a tweeked ankle. That injury will happen to him 10 times this upcoming season just like every other basketball player. If it was a regular season game than he would be going and you wouldn't hear anything about it.

[duncan228]

View from the other side.


Preseason Game 5: Cavs vs. Spurs, Pregame Notes (http://cavs.ohio.com/2010/10/preseason-game-5-cavs-vs-spurs-pregame-notes/)
by Jason Lloyd
Ohio.com

Cavs vs. Spurs, 7:30 p.m., at Petersen Events Center, Univ. of Pittsburgh

Pregame notes:
* The Spurs are using almost all backups tonight. Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili and Richard Jefferson were given the day off and aren’t even with the team. All of them flew directly to San Antonio following the Spurs’ game in Mexico City earlier this week.

* This will count as a home game for the Cavs, but expect to see plenty of Spurs fans. Tonight is a homecoming for DeJuan Blair, who played two seasons at Pitt before leaving for the NBA.

* Neither Mo Williams nor Anderson Varejao will play tonight, although both will make the trip to Pittsburgh. Williams is still bothered by the groin injury and Varejao’s ankle isn’t quite 100 percent.

* Byron Scott isn’t sure of his starting lineup yet. He said he has the two hour bus ride over to Pittsburgh to think it over.

* The Cavs went through another strenuous practice this morning. They won’t have long to recover. They’ll shower, eat and board the bus for the game.

[mexpurs21]

So the starting lineup will look like this:

PG: George Hill
SG: James Anderson
SF: Bobby Simmons
PF: DeJuan Blair
C: Matt Bonner

My gosh, this is worst than a Summer League game :lol

[Interrohater]

At least we'll be able to get an extended look at all the 'bubble' guys. I'll be watching Bobby Simmons' footwork closely.

[phxspurfan]

Soo...LeBron-less Cavs, after a practice, with no starting lineup set in stone, without their two best players. Spurs without any of their big three. This one's gonna be a laugher.

Well, at least we won't have to see RJ brick seven more times.

[Trill Clinton]

I'm interested in seeing if Jerrells can put together another solid game. Hopefully Gee gets some run tonight as well. Blair, will have another big game since he's playing in his hometown.

[DesignatedT]

I hope there is a feed out there for this game.

[biziofromdowntown]

So who's the "star" for Cavs? JJ Hickson? that's crazy!

[Brazil]

^Mo I guess

[DPG21920]

Mo & Jamison are the stars. JJ Hickson is going to get a lot of minutes, so he should put up good numbers. He was always active and relatively productive, so the uptick in minutes all year should see his stats also increase.

Sessions will be a good test for our guys. Despite being kind of buried after getting a decent contract, he is still a pretty damn productive player overall.

I really hope Gee/Anderson get a ton of burn.

[ace3g]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
With four starters in SA, tonight's lineup in Pitt: Hill, Neal, Anderson, McDyess, Blair #spurs


Anderson at the SF spot again

[ElNono]

I hope there is a feed out there for this game.

This is what I got, but it might just turn out to be audio:

http://atdhe.net/20423/watch-san-antonio-spurs-vs-cleveland-cavaliers

http://realsportz.net/watch/32023/1/watch-cleveland-cavaliers-vs-san-antonio-spurs.html

and this is audio league pass:
http://www.nba.com/broadband/alp_schedule.html

[timvp]

Don't see how this one will be on TV ... but let's hope.

[ace3g]

atdhe is just audio plus this...
You are watching San Antonio Spurs vs Cleveland Cavaliers
--NBA Pre Season - Game not televised!--

[DesignatedT]

Damn. I was hoping i could see this game.

[biziofromdowntown]

nothing

[biziofromdowntown]

A live boxscore?

[ace3g]

there will be one from yahoo, once the game starts

[ace3g]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=Aukslmw5ctTmhwZiL8EHLkK8vLYF?gid=201 0101405

[DesignatedT]

blair is about to go off in this game.

[ace3g]

Blair 2.0!!! against Hickson

[biziofromdowntown]

D. Blair makes a 14-foot jumper from the right wing

woooow

[ace3g]

Blair with a pass to Dice who gets goal tended

[ace3g]

lol Cavs triple teaming Beast 2.0

[biziofromdowntown]

Blair 2 minutes 4 points 1 bs 1 assist

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

"sounds" like pretty good chemistry early on

[DesignatedT]

Time for Anderson to show us something this game.

[mexpurs21]

Spurs 11-4 Ramon Sessions :lol

[EmantheSpursFan]

Beast

[ace3g]

Blair gets another O rebound and going to the line for 2

[Man In Black]

Anyone in Pittsburgh check the schedule?

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

so why no high five, pop?

[mexpurs21]

I dont know why i feel that Blair might get a triple-double.

[biziofromdowntown]

Neal sucks

[ace3g]

O board by Dice, pass to driving Anderson for the and1

[nbaman99]

Time for Anderson to show us something this game.

i think he just did

[Spurs Brazil]

Anderson and one

[ace3g]

CJ in for Neal

[spectator]

neal's handle must be horrible

[ace3g]

Gist in for Dice

[ace3g]

actually CJ came in for Blair

[ace3g]

k, my bad, yahoo is way off with their sub stats

[biziofromdowntown]

2 O rebs from gist

[spectator]

wow neal - 0/3 FG, 1 rb, 0 ast and at least 2 bad passes in 8 mins

hope you turn it around mate

[DesignatedT]

neal cant hit

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

how did neal get a guaranteed contract again?

[spectator]

cj with the rebound

[DesignatedT]

Jerrells
Temple
Simmons
Gist
Cousin

in now

[ace3g]

Temple hits a shot

[spectator]

and temple with the points

[mexpurs21]

how did neal get a guaranteed contract again?

They say he performs well in crunch time :bang

[spectator]

something must be wrong with our team, b/c everyone from the big 3 to the last 3 cannot sink a FT

[spectator]

temple with the defense

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

lol by jumping up and down

[ducks]

maybe spurs thought with guarantee contract he would be more confident and shot anmd make more

[biziofromdowntown]

No Gee during this 1 quarter

[spectator]

looks like the d-league from gee; does anyone have an update on why he does not play?

[biziofromdowntown]

3 rebs for Gist, does anyone know something more? No shots attempted?

[GinobiliForTres]

Well, it could be worse by 35% shooting? Seriously?

[biziofromdowntown]

Temple with 6 points

[spectator]

temple is feeling it

[ace3g]

Simmons hits a 3

[biziofromdowntown]

Looks like we have no perimeter defenders, too many 3 points for Cavs

[Libri]

Looks like we have no perimeter defenders, too many 3 points for Cavs

It wouldn't surprise me. Perimeter defense was crappy the last game.

[spectator]

still sad about malik leaving; he could have backed rj this year

[ace3g]

Simmons with a jumper, 5 pts now

[ace3g]

CJ to Gist for the layup

[biziofromdowntown]

long PT for Gist tonight

[nbaman99]

Sooo no Gee yet

[cd98]

Gee is not in the box score on Yahoo?

[ace3g]

maybe Gee plus 1st rounder to the Knicks for Chandler (Knicks want a SG), lol

[biziofromdowntown]

Long run for Gist. Lookalike he isn't the next cut

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

maybe Gee plus 1st rounder to the Knicks for Chandler (Knicks want a SG), lol

lol, indeed

[Duncan21kid]

I wanna know how Temple's lookin out there...

[biziofromdowntown]

Shit, Neal is made

[ace3g]

something is just fishy about Gee getting little time, that is the extreme of my thoughts on the situation

[DesignatedT]

Definitely something weird going on with Gee. I thought he played well in the Summer League.

[Spurs Brazil]

That guaranteed deal for Neal looks worst and worst

[objective]

just call him DNP-Gee

[ace3g]

and by now injury has to be ruled out (Spurs usually don't hide info like that)

[ace3g]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Splitter is on the bench in uniform but is not available to play. Think he just forgot his sport coat. #spurs

[Obstructed_View]

and by now injury has to be ruled out (Spurs usually don't hide info like that)

Well, I'd have believed that before they hid Hairston's injury and dumped him off on someone else.

[Libri]

CIA Pop :stirpot:

[biziofromdowntown]

So, Gee is out. The choise is between Gist n Simmons

[ace3g]

Anderson 3!!!

[biziofromdowntown]

Well, I'd have believed that before they hid Hairston's injury and dumped him off on someone else.

but Hairstons injury is not so serious. He's gonna play next week

[ace3g]

Neal with the step back jumper

[Libri]

Neal jumper!

http://www.creationsbykim.com/Images/LevelsNEW/choo-choostool.jpg

[ace3g]

San Antonio 41, Cleveland 50 halftime

[Obstructed_View]

but Hairstons injury is not so serious. He's gonna play next week

Not according to a news item today from Italy. They signed someone else to take his place because he's not ready to play.

[Obstructed_View]

Who's assigned to defend Daniel Gibson?

[biziofromdowntown]

Not according to a news item today from Italy. They signed someone else to take his place because he's not ready to play.

i'm from Italy. Malik will play next week in Euroleague match. Book it bro.

[Obstructed_View]

i'm from Italy. Malik will play next week in Euroleague match. Book it bro.

Oh, cool. Then you can probably translate this:

http://www.dotbasket.it/blog/1506/campionato-basket-maschile/serie-a-basket-gli-ingaggi-dell%E2%80%99ultim%E2%80%99ora.html

[chasky]

someone is waching the game?

who was defending Gibson? He should be waived and if was GH we are in trouble.

Blair leading the team in Points, Rebounds, ASISTS and Block. That mean poor job of the guards creating plays. Jerrels 2 asist in 10 minuts, he is Ok.

Good stats line by Anderson, Simmons and Gist.

Neal deal looks really bad.

[biziofromdowntown]

Yeap, about Hairston: Montepaschi call back Moss to replace Malik untill he'll be ready. Siena n Hairston arranged a new contract after the injury and now he is practicing with the team and expect to debut in italian championship at the end of the month

[Spurs Brazil]

CJ and Temple are better options than Neal.

I'll ask again, why the Spurs gave Neal a guaranteed deal????????????????

[biziofromdowntown]

Oh, cool. Then you can probably translate this:

http://www.dotbasket.it/blog/1506/campionato-basket-maschile/serie-a-basket-gli-ingaggi-dell%E2%80%99ultim%E2%80%99ora.html

Take a look here: http://web.legabasket.it/team/?teamid=1189. u'll see Malik into Sienas roster.

[biziofromdowntown]

BTW Jennings vs Wall 7 assist to 9 for John.

[ace3g]

3rd quarter about to start

[ivanfromwestwood]

who is the home team?

[Chomag]

So did Gee run over Pop's dog or something?

[ace3g]

Neal 3!!!

[biziofromdowntown]

Lord, finally a 3point shot from Neal

[ace3g]

another 3 for Neal!!!

[Spurs Brazil]

PDcavsinsider #Cavs F Antawn Jamison has left knee sprain, will not return. not believed to be serious. reevaluated tomorrow

[ace3g]

3 for Anderson

[Libri]

I think this season we're going to see a lot of midrange jumpers from Blair.

[Chomag]

PDcavsinsider #Cavs F Antawn Jamison has left knee sprain, will not return. not believed to be serious. reevaluated tomorrow

Good to hear nothing seems bad with him. He is a very classy player.

[biziofromdowntown]

Hill making shit during this preseason

[Spurs Brazil]

Nice to see Anderson with those triples

[Spurs Brazil]

Hill with 5 fouls already

[ace3g]

back to an 8 pt game thanks to Dice jumper

[ivanfromwestwood]

Neil is on fire

[ace3g]

Neal with a floater in the lane (10pts) now only 6 pt deficit

[Libri]

If Pop has given Anderson the green light, then he should not think twice of taking those jumpers.

[Spurs Brazil]

Blair 10rebs 4asts

[ace3g]

typical Spurs preseason so far, start off slow and then heat up in the 2nd half

[biziofromdowntown]

Guys, it's soooo strange to not read "Duncan bank shot" during a game...i won't think about when he'll retire.

[spectator]

anderson, neal and hill feeling it

[ace3g]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Blair got a haircut for his homecoming game. Bandage/gash on his nose probably mitigates effect

[spectator]

hickson is killing us

[ace3g]

Anderson to Blair to Dice for Dunk

[ivanfromwestwood]

blair needs to show he can take over the game. they should force feed him in 4th qtr. 20 20 game im calling it.

[ace3g]

Gee in!!!

[spectator]

gee sighting

[ivanfromwestwood]

Geeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[chasky]

Gee in

[biziofromdowntown]

Gee in

[DesignatedT]

Finally gee

[ace3g]

.....30 sec later, Anderson in for Gee..., lol just kidding

[Chomag]

Gee lives?

[GinobiliForTres]

we were down 6, but now we're down 12 again. Hmmmmm.

[biziofromdowntown]

Our Dleague team is in

[Libri]

So Gee is given a quarter to show that he belongs on the team? It could be that the Spurs have already made a decision on Gee, whatever that might be.

[ace3g]

Gee going to the line for 2

[ace3g]

but even if they already had a decision made on him, I'd still want to see how he plays with some of the main players for a game

[TimDunkem]

I've felt he's been a lock since the SL. I think Pop is just trying to get a good look at the other players.

[DesignatedT]

gee with a couple free throws.

[Russ]

Looking at the stats from this game is like seeing (forgive me) pigs at the trough.

It is like trying to judge a player's ability by looking at his scoring average on the worst team in the league. You don't find the best player, you find the player who is most comfortable profitting in an uncompetitive situation.

[ceperez]

Now playing:


Jerrells
Temple
Gee
Gist
Cousins

Hmmm....

[ace3g]

Temple gets a block that goes off a Cav and out of bounds, Spurs ball

[ivanfromwestwood]

temple with the block

[ace3g]

Cousin with a layup

[mingus]

hopefully they have highlights of this game on nba.com, shit.

i wanna see more of Anderson's and Neal's stroke. i also wanna see more of Anderson's defense.

looks like Anderson can shoot, which is great and expected. if Neal can be an Eddie House type player, where he can come in and light it up, he'd be great. for whatever reason the Spurs historically but esp over the last couple of years have gone one some serious scoring droughts in games. if forget which game but last year against Dallas in the playoffs they went on a huge drought and then they had an even worse one against Pheonix in game 3 i think. i think the plan for Mason was to be that guy when he came to the Spurs. he did a great job of that at first (and we were looking damn good btw), but then he sucked and the Spurs lacked enough offense. basically, the value of someone that's able to hit open shots cannot be overestimated.

but back to Anderson... if he can be Jaredy Dudley type player for the Spurs, it'd be awesome. Dudley isn't an elite defender on the level of Battier or Ariza but he makes superstars work. obviously, he has a higher offensive potential than Dudley.

[Spurs Brazil]

PDcavsinsider #Cavs guard Anthony Parker out with sprained right ring and middle fingers. Xrays negative. Will not return.

[spectator]

you can tell this unit lacks playing time together - defense is aweful

[ace3g]

Gee still in to start the 4th

[mingus]

who is this gee guy everone keeps talking about. can someone breifly some up his game for me because i don't know who he is. thanks

[ace3g]

Gist with the jumper

[ivanfromwestwood]

i think the plan for Mason was to be that guy when he came to the Spurs. he did a great job of that at first (and we were looking damn good btw), but then he sucked. mason's problem was mental. he probably was a lurker on spurstalk. lol

[biziofromdowntown]

So Gist made a jump shot...

[ace3g]

Alonzo Gee, SG/SF, who played for the Toros for a couple of years, exploded there; even had some good games with the Wizards last season; played for the Spurs summer league team, played well there as well.

He is like RJ in that he is more of a attacking player then he is a shooter, but has good percentages from 3.

That is the weird thing, most thought he would get some decent minutes during the preseason

[spectator]

cavs scrubs beating spurs scrubs

[mingus]

mason's problem was mental. he probably was a lurker on spurstalk. lol

no i honestly just think Mason is a shitty basketball player (relative to the NBA of course). remember, he had one good season of shooting before he came to SA. that's it. he was by no means an established shooter in this league before that one good season he had with Washington.

i went to a Spurs game last year and saw him warming up... he sucks he dribbled the ball of his leg and the the ballboy had to get it for him. ballboys are supposed to rebound for your ass. dude sucks.

[biziofromdowntown]

not a good start of 4 for Gist

[ace3g]

CJ for 3

[ivanfromwestwood]

gee should start over jeff. build his confidence. watch him become the next coming of SJax. thats what pop did in 03 and he was clutch in playoffs.

[spectator]

this is embarrassing

[biziofromdowntown]

Gist is fouling himself out

[spectator]

gee should start over jeff. build his confidence. watch him become the next coming of SJax. thats what pop did in 03 and he was clutch in playoffs.


ivan, you bulgarian? i had a roommate with that name from bg.

[Obstructed_View]

Yeap, about Hairston: Montepaschi call back Moss to replace Malik untill he'll be ready. Siena n Hairston arranged a new contract after the injury and now he is practicing with the team and expect to debut in italian championship at the end of the month

Awesome. Thank you. :toast

[ace3g]

69-90

[Blackjack]

this is embarrassing

:rollin

[ivanfromwestwood]

no i honestly just think Mason is a shitty basketball player (relative to the NBA of course). remember, he had one good season of shooting before he came to SA. that's it. he was by no means an established shooter in this league before that one good season he had with Washington.

i went to a Spurs game last year and saw him warming up... he sucks he dribbled the ball of his leg and the the ballboy had to get it for him. ballboys are supposed to rebound for your ass. dude sucks.yea i guess he did suck. at first with parker and gino out, mase looked clutch. he was among the top 3pt shooters that year and even attended the 3pt contest that year.

[Blackjack]

Awesome. Thank you. :toast

:tu

Thanks, bizio. :toast

[Spurologist]

how has Gary Neal looked?

[Obstructed_View]

At least Blair has been there to pick up some of the long rebounds from all those missed jumpshots.

[ivanfromwestwood]

ivan, you bulgarian? i had a roommate with that name from bg.

no sir. west side san antonio born and raised:flag:

[ivanfromwestwood]

how has Gary Neal looked?not bad. hit two 3's early in the 3rd.

[spectator]

:rollin

considering it's scrubs vs. scrubs, i would say the statement is valid.

defense is ludicrous, shooting is atrocious

[ElNono]

That's our depth??

WE STACKED!!!!11!

[Spurs Brazil]

JMcDonald_SAEN

Gee was probably better off when he wasn't playing. Rough, rough quarter for him.

[Russ]

no sir. west side san antonio born and raised:flag:

So you must live some place with the word "west" in it? :)

[Spurs Brazil]

JMcDonald_SAEN

Not sure we learned much about #spurs tonight except they're better w/ Duncan, Parker, Manu, RJ

[ace3g]

Gee blocked by Green

[Trill Clinton]

JMcDonald_SAEN

Gee was probably better off when he wasn't playing. Rough, rough quarter for him.

Just reading between the lines it looks like Gee won't make the Spurs roster.

[Libri]

JMcDonald_SAEN

Not sure we learned much about #spurs tonight except they're better w/ Duncan, Parker, Manu, RJ

It doesn't look like any of the Spurs' scrubs stood out.

[ace3g]

simmons for 3

[ivanfromwestwood]

So you must live some place with the word "west" in it? :)what a coincidence. makes perfect sense. thanks:toast

[mingus]

stat that stood out for me was Anderson with only six shots.

[spectator]

i don't understand what happened from the 3rd qtr when we were only 6 points down

[ace3g]

It doesn't look like any of the Spurs' scrubs stood out.

I'd say Simmons, Neal, Anderson, and Temple played well (ofcourse with no video it is hard to tell and can't make an accurate judgment)

[HarlemHeat37]

Very disappointed in Alonzo Gangster..tough to make a read on his status though..

[spectator]

i really wished i had seen the game; i wonder if hickson was beasting the beast or if he got his points from somewhere else

[ace3g]

the problem for Gee is although he has ton of athleticism and skill; he isn't a good ball handler (not even decent) and that really hurts in the NBA

[Obstructed_View]

i don't understand what happened from the 3rd qtr when we were only 6 points down

Die by the long jumpshot.

[spectator]

by the numbers, i would say decent game from temple, hill, anderson and mcdyess

wow 59% FT for the spurs - missed 9 shots

[ace3g]

San Antonio 80, Cleveland 106 Final

[MaNu4Tres]

I'd say Simmons, Neal, Anderson, and Temple played well (ofcourse with no video it is hard to tell and can't make an accurate judgment)

From what it looks like, Neal needs a lot of shots (volume shooter) to put up respectable production for a bench player. Which makes his 10 points kind of fools gold (13 attempts).

[spectator]

can you imagine how badly we would have lost if they hadn't been resting lebron?

oh, wait!

[Libri]

I'd say Simmons, Neal, Anderson, and Temple played well (ofcourse with no video it is hard to tell and can't make an accurate judgment)

It seems that Temple played better.

I still give a slight edge to Jerrells over Temple for the 3rd pg position.

[galvatron3000]

From what it looks like, Neal needs a lot of shots (volume shooter) to put up respectable production for a bench player. Which makes his 10 points kind of fools gold (13 attempts).

he shot well from long range which tells me he only needs to be on the court with Duncan or Splitter and not trying to create for himself or other, play the Steve Kerr role and pass instead of shooting unless you are open at the 3.

[galvatron3000]

It seems that Temple played better.

I still give a slight edge to Jerrells over Temple for the 3rd pg position.

over a 6'6/6'7 guard who DEFENDS and plays multiple positions and can shoot the three, nah.

[spectator]

over a 6'6/6'7 guard who DEFENDS and plays multiple positions and can shoot the three, nah.

this

[Libri]

over a 6'6/6'7 guard who DEFENDS and plays multiple positions and can shoot the three, nah.

So far, he hasn't showed it in preseason.

[Spurologist]

not bad. hit two 3's early in the 3rd.

:tu don't really mind him being a volume shooter as long as his FG% is good and he keeps the D honest. We really need a constant 3 point threat.....something that was clearly missed last season.

[spectator]

So far, he hasn't showed it in preseason.

idk man, he looked better tonight + adding recovering from injury + solid last year => still ahead of cj

however, i would say that pop will wait until the end of pre-season for making the decision b/c it's close; if temple keeps up this type of game, i think he will be chosen

[Obstructed_View]

It seems that Temple played better.

I still give a slight edge to Jerrells over Temple for the 3rd pg position.

I'm still thinking they aren't an either/or situation anymore. CJ can run the team and defend, and Temple has the potential to defend guys that nobody else on the team can. Might see both kept for a while until Temple has a chance to catch up.

[MaNu4Tres]

Don't understand how some people think Neal is worthy enough to get quality minutes in the regular season.

The guy is not a NBA player.

[galvatron3000]

So far, he hasn't showed it in preseason.

He proved last year in regular season, he is only going to play spot minutes at best waiting on someone to get injured at worst and at the moment recovering from an injury. If Jerrels gets hurt I expect him to come back worse too. I'd take the proven player who adds some dimension and can cover other positions if others get hurt thus adding/keeping size. I like Temple at the backup point at his size, just for defense and shooting. Jerrells is a volume scorer who can't run the team, although he has improved when things get rough, I would expect him to revert whereas Temple came in replacing a star guard when things were rough and played well. You can never overlook stuff like that just like when Simmons hit that shot the other night, everyone was saying they wanted him out but I expected him to be poised. I watch things others don't and I expected him to be okay based on what I was seeing from him. It's not just speed and quickness but smarts and demeanor.

[Obstructed_View]

One might suggest that "I watch things others don't" = "I see what I want to see."

[galvatron3000]

One might suggest that "I watch things others don't" = "I see what I want to see."

no, because the evidence or proof was provided with results. to see what you want suggests making things up, which I did not. Now I could have been wrong in my assessment but in the case of what occurred the other night, the evidence speaks for itself. Although, I understand where you are coming from it can only be applied if I was making up stuff that wasn't happening sorta like what the commentators do while watching games.

[Obstructed_View]

no, because the evidence or proof was provided with results. Everyone to see what you want suggests making things up, which I did not. Now I could have been wrong in my assessment but in the case of what occurred the other night, the evidence speaks for itself. Although, I understand where you are coming from it can only be applied if I was making up stuff that wasn't happening sorta like what the commentators do while watching games.

So Simmons is great because he hit a basket at the end of a game he stunk up, Jerrells can't run the team even though he's been doing it since summer league, Temple is great because he played great last May. You're picking and choosing from that much data in order to take small pieces from random times to justify your perspective. I call that seeing what you want to see. The simple fact is what Libri said: He hasn't been showing anything so far.

[Libri]

He proved last year in regular season, he is only going to play spot minutes at best waiting on someone to get injured at worst and at the moment recovering from an injury. If Jerrels gets hurt I expect him to come back worse too. I'd take the proven player who adds some dimension and can cover other positions if others get hurt thus adding/keeping size. I like Temple at the backup point at his size, just for defense and shooting. Jerrells is a volume scorer who can't run the team, although he has improved when things get rough, I would expect him to revert whereas Temple came in replacing a star guard when things were rough and played well. You can never overlook stuff like that just like when Simmons hit that shot the other night, everyone was saying they wanted him out but I expected him to be poised. I watch things others don't and I expected him to be okay based on what I was seeing from him. It's not just speed and quickness but smarts and demeanor.

Temple did well last season but based on preseason performance, so far, I give the edge to Jerrells. Preseason performance has to count for something.

[galvatron3000]

So Simmons is great because he hit a basket at the end of a game he stunk up, Jerrells can't run the team even though he's been doing it since summer league, Temple is great because he played great last May. You're picking and choosing from that much data in order to take small pieces from random times to justify your perspective. I call that seeing what you want to see. The simple fact is what Libri said: He hasn't been showing anything so far.

No, you're making me say something I never said. Who said Simmons was great? I said I expected a mature level head in the game from Simmons when everyone was callling for him to be pulled and he sank a shot after stinking it up. That was the point but other things went into that obviously unnoticed by the masses. Not a problem to me. I understand why they wanted him out but if you go back and read the comments you;'ll see I was commenting for Pop to leave him in.

My assessment of Temple in comparison to Jerrells is Temple is proven and recovering and Jerrells is playing well of late it really doesn't matter per se who is kept because of the role they are expected to play so my thing is I'd keep Temple for defense, size and ability to play multiple position. These are facts.Whether he plays well or Jerrells fizzle out are unknown but he obviously play well statistically.

Now that's not seeing what I want thats just an opinion. It will not be proven or disproven because one or both will most likely be cut.

[galvatron3000]

Temple did well last season but based on preseason performance, so far, I give the edge to Jerrells. Preseason performance has to count for something.

I just can't discount a guy coming back from an injury and is now starting to play well is all and has proven to be a quality player. I am not discounting Curtis' play just not quick to dump Temple based on the current situation is all I'm saying. If Curtis was drop 6-7 dimes a game then I'd sing a different song but I see Temple being a more valuable asset down the line, just my thinking.

[Rito3d30]

This game is so bad that
nba.com don't even want to show us the freaking highlights.....

[#2!]

Temple's ball handling is pretty shoddy, but his stats were better than Curtis's in every category tonight. I don't trust Garrett Temple as a PG right now, even 3rd string. He needs to prove his worth as an above average defender, and improve his ball handling skills as much as he can.

[dbestpro]

Okay, you have a 6-1 guard who has never proven himself in the regular season getting the nod because he is slightly better than an injury recovering player who is 6-6 and has proven his worth on the court during the regular season, without any discernible age difference.

Like the monkey said in Planet of the Apes. "Right."

[#2!]

This game is so bad that
nba.com don't even want to show us the freaking highlights.....

I don't think there were any cameras there.

[ElNono]

Spurs shot a better percentage from 3 (39%) than from 2 (37%)... probably a brick-fest out there tonight...

[galvatron3000]

Spurs shot a better percentage from 3 (39%) than from 2 (37%)... probably a brick-fest out there tonight...

No size in the middle, no double teams to play out of, just jacking shots, probably lots of late rushed shot clock shots too but they got some minutes and the starters got some rest. start the season already:lol

[TD 21]

This is why you don't have this many unproven, fringe players on your team, particularly when you're a team with championship aspirations.

It's only four games, but let's face it, not a single one of the wing options has stood out. The only one at all who's surprised has been Jerrells and no offense to him, but he was the last guy the Spurs needed (and probably were hoping) would do so.

It looks like it's going to come down to what I presumed it would initially (barring a trade or surprise waiver wire option) and that is, Anderson. He's going to have to have a Matthews/Lee type rookie season for this team, because the other options are bordering on atrocious.

[ducks]

duncan and the rest of the starters make the rest look much better

[Manufan909]

no sir. west side san antonio born and raised:flag:

On the playground is where I spent most of my days.:downspin:

[ace3g]

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/ap/da/fullj.8458ae162e740e5af25ce2a8233a526c/0febace1623e4ac3a948b6c1cd940636.jpg

[ElNono]

I don't know what Tiago will bring, but so far it looks like we're going to rely heavily again on the Big 3 to get those 50 or so wins to get into the playoffs again. Hopefully all 3 have a great start of the season and we can make a run early. It looks like it's going to take some time for the bench to really start playing at the level this team needs.

[ivanfromwestwood]

On the playground is where I spent most of my days.:downspin: :lmao

[ceperez]

I don't know what Tiago will bring, but so far it looks like we're going to rely heavily again on the Big 3 to get those 50 or so wins to get into the playoffs again. Hopefully all 3 have a great start of the season and we can make a run early. It looks like it's going to take some time for the bench to really start playing at the level this team needs.

Truly dissapoint to realize that None of these players can really take over a game.

All good role players but no all stars here.

[anakha]

Truly dissapoint to realize that None of these players can really take over a game.

All good role players but no all stars here.

I really hope you were being sarcastic, otherwise http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-ughh.gif

[Bruno]

Looks like Temple is back in the business to get a roster spot. On the paper and given Spurs roster, I rather have Temple than Jerrells.

[Maddog]

Looks like Temple is back in the business to get a roster spot. On the paper and given Spurs roster, I rather have Temple than Jerrells.

I would tend to agree- also last year he did a solid job- though I might argue for keeping both.
From what I have seen (very little) and read (stats impressions etc.)
I would probably cut Neal, Gee and probably Gist
Cousin? don't know he's big and has decent stats might be worth a year in Austin

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Looks like Temple is back in the business to get a roster spot. On the paper and given Spurs roster, I rather have Temple than Jerrells.

If it comes down to a choice, I agree. Defense>>>>>>>>>>>Everything else. The fact that anyone's even talking about Jerrells shows how bad the point guard situation is on this team, and the Spurs should be ashamed of themselves for that.

[#2!]

If it comes down to a choice, I agree. Defense>>>>>>>>>>>Everything else. The fact that anyone's even talking about Jerrells shows how bad the point guard situation is on this team, and the Spurs should be ashamed of themselves for that.

It probably has to come down to a choice given the limited spots available. If the Spurs decide to keep Curtis Jerrells, then it seems redundant to add another guard to the rotation since the Spurs just added James Anderson, and unfortunately guaranteed Neal's contract.

Anderson's defense has been adequate, and beyond that when playing the 2nd/3rd stringers. That being said, if the Spurs decide to keep Jerrells then the only way for Temple to stay with the team is to prove, indisputably, that he is the Spurs' best perimeter defender.

[duncan228]

Preseason: Cleveland Cavaliers 106, San Antonio Spurs 80 (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/)
by Andrew A. McNeill
48 Minutes of Hell

If Tuesday night’s preseason game against the Los Angeles Clippers (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2010/10/12/san-antonio-spurs-los-angeles-clippes-preseason-mexico-city/) had few takeaways for the San Antonio Spurs, Thursday night’s 106-80 loss to the Cleveland Cavaliers had even less. Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili and Richard Jefferson all flew back to San Antonio after the Spurs’ game against the Clips. This left the Spurs with a young and inexperienced roster to test out on DeJuan Blair’s homecoming trip to Pittsburgh.

And the final score shows that. San Antonio was competitive for about two-and-a-half quarters. And then they weren’t. After three quarters, the Spurs were down 79-62.

So what did we learn this game? Well, not much.

Keep reading → (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/2010/10/14/2010-preseason-san-antonio-spurs-cleveland-cavaliers-pittsburgh/#more-10181)

[ChumpDumper]

I learned that the Spurs' scrubs really are scrubs.

[duncan228]

Some Pop quotes.

Cleveland Cavaliers coach Byron Scott was right choice, Spurs' Popovich says (http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/10/post_12.html)
Mary Schmitt Boyer, The Plain Dealer

San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich had nothing but good words for former Cavs coach Mike Brown and General Manager Danny Ferry, as well as new coach Byron Scott.

Popovich hired Brown as an assistant in San Antonio in 2000.

"He's a good friend," Popovich said. "Mike did a fantastic job while he was in Cleveland. But in this business, circumstances often dictate what happens. Sometimes the circumstances have more to do with a coach's dismissal than anything he did as far as being a coach is concerned.

"He'll land someplace if he decides to get back in because he is a very good coach and a very good man, and he knows how to handle people."

Asked whether he thought Scott was the right coach for the Cavaliers now, Popovich said: "Yeah, I really do. He's got the kind of experience I think is probably necessary considering the situation where some things have to be put back together again, confidence has to be built. You have to have somebody who's got the experience to know what is necessary to put that together again, and he has that kind of experience."

Ferry, who played for the Cavs and Spurs and started his front-office career in San Antonio, has rejoined the Spurs as vice president of basketball operations, and Popovich said it was "fantastic" to have him back, although he thinks Ferry likely will get another job soon.

"The humor level rises," Popovich said with a smile. "The sarcasm level rises. The fun, the enjoyment of the game rises. The only sad part is he's not going to be there long. I try not to think about that because it's so much fun to have him back."

Welcome home: Popovich also had great things to say about former Pittsburgh star DeJuan Blair, who started at center for the Spurs on Thursday. After playing in Mexico City earlier this week, Popovich sent Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker and Richard Jefferson back to San Antonio to rest.

"He's doing very well," Popovich said of Blair. "He's a hard worker, quick learner, very passionate about the game, wants to be a great player. What more can I ask? He has really worked hard to reduce his body fat, a significant difference from last year. It was a necessary thing, part of the process of being as good as he could possibly be. He deserves a lot of credit for the discipline he employed to get to where he is now."

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It probably has to come down to a choice given the limited spots available. If the Spurs decide to keep Curtis Jerrells, then it seems redundant to add another guard to the rotation since the Spurs just added James Anderson, and unfortunately guaranteed Neal's contract.

Anderson's defense has been adequate, and beyond that when playing the 2nd/3rd stringers. That being said, if the Spurs decide to keep Jerrells then the only way for Temple to stay with the team is to prove, indisputably, that he is the Spurs' best perimeter defender.

That is a self-imposed limit. I'd really prefer both of them be kept until someone better becomes available. Some regular season games would be a great chance to watch them.

[#2!]

That is a self-imposed limit. I'd really prefer both of them be kept until someone better becomes available. Some regular season games would be a great chance to watch them.

It is, but until they do otherwise I have to go off of what the FO is saying. I agree that the Spurs need to pick up some better pieces (at more than one backup position) to be serious contenders. I still think that if Temple is not considered a backup PG then he will be a hindrance to the playing time of James Anderson, who I feel is more talented, thus harder to replace, than Garrett Temple.

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I'd prefer specialized role players than trying to force guys to do things they aren't good at.

[BackHome]

I was really dissapointed in the free agents that were brought over somehow I thought we would have done better? For some unknown reason I just thought our need was at SF and that the Spurs would invite at least four or five guys who played SF and were at least over 6'5 tall to try out for the team.