Should pass interference be 15 yards max?

[DarrinS]

From admitted Patriots lover, Peter King's MMQB:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/10/17/mmqb/1.html


Evidently, the Jets are the first team in NFL history to benefit from a PI call.




The Jets won fair and square in Denver. Safety Renaldo Hill interfered with Santonio Holmes, slightly grabbing his facemask accidentally and affecting Holmes' ability to follow the flight of a pass late in the fourth quarter. Denver led 20-17 at the time, trying to defend a fourth-and-six desperation throw from Mark Sanchez to Holmes at the goal line. What did Sanchez and the Jets have to lose? There aren't any gimme fourth-and-six conversion plays in the playbook, and the Jets clearly figured if they flooded the secondary and tried to get it to the athletic Holmes, maybe he'd have single-coverage and could win a battle for the ball ... or he'd get interfered with, and New York would get a gift. Either way was fine. And when Hill contacted Holmes and tugged at the facemask, that was interference. A 46-yard interference call. The Jets advanced from the 48 to the two on a wing and a prayer.

Stupid. Yes, it was interference. No, it was not worthy of a 46-yard gift. For years, this had been the dumbest rule in the NFL book. Sunday was exhibit A for making interference at most a 15-yard penalty from the line of scrimmage -- not placed at the spot of the foul.





Thoughts?

[Dr. Gonzo]

If Obama wasn't so busy playing golf 50+ days out of the year he would look into this.

[Steve Kerr]

If Obama wasn't so busy playing golf 50+ days out of the year he would look into this.
:lmao

[DarrinS]

Good example of why I don't post here.

[Steve Kerr]

Good example of why I don't post here.
You keep saying "you don't post here" yet here you are.....

[monosylab1k]

From admitted Patriots lover, Peter King

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

If you paid attention to the Jets or the NFL in 2007, you'd know Peter King was incredibly critical of the Patriots for a long time. Just because he doesn't agree with the Moss/Brady HairGate incident doesn't mean he's some Patriots lover.

Faggot bandwagon Jets fan reads one article on SanchezDickLicker.com and thinks he knows which media members favor the Pats.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Maybe the liberals could quit wasting trillions on pointless job "stimulus" packages and put their efforts towards more pressing matters like the need to make the pass interference rule be a 15 yard max penalty this country would be in better shape.

[Dr. Gonzo]

But seriously, no it shouldn't.

[MannyIsGod]

Good example of why I don't post here.

Then GTFO imo. You think you'll be missed or wtf?

:lmao @ trying to hold your presence or lack there of over us.

[monosylab1k]

tbh yeah 15 yards is better than the current ruling.

But still, :lmao @ Peter King being a Patriots homer

[MannyIsGod]

TBH 15 yards is horrible. Incoming pass interference plays on purpose to stop long bombs.

PI is fine as is.

[monosylab1k]

TBH 15 yards is horrible. Incoming pass interference plays on purpose to stop long bombs.

PI is fine as is.

so incidental contact flagged as PI which puts the ball at the 1 yard line is better?

[sa_butta]

tbh 15 yards is horrible. Incoming pass interference plays on purpose to stop long bombs.

Pi is fine as is.
this.

[Dr. Gonzo]

so incidental contact flagged as PI which puts the ball at the 1 yard line is better?

Changing the rule won't make officials call it better.

[monosylab1k]

Changing the rule won't make officials call it better.

At least then, when officials completely fuck things up, it's only a 15 yard penalty, and not a guaranteed TD to one team.

Let's see how you feel if it's week 17 and the Texans need a win to get into the playoffs and they get flagged for a bullshit PI call with 5 seconds to go, and then Vince Young trucks Mario Williams for the 1 yard game winning TD run.

[DarrinS]

But still, :lmao @ Peter King being a Patriots homer


Search google images for patriots homer.

[DarrinS]

I kindof agree that getting the ball at the spot of the interference is too much of a gift.

[monosylab1k]

search google images for jets skinny and guess who shows up

http://katemate.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/rex-ryan.jpg

:lmao

[Dr. Gonzo]

At least then, when officials completely fuck things up, it's only a 15 yard penalty, and not a guaranteed TD to one team.

Let's see how you feel if it's week 17 and the Texans need a win to get into the playoffs and they get flagged for a bullshit PI call with 5 seconds to go, and then Vince Young trucks Mario Williams for the 1 yard game winning TD run.

I'll feel like whatever dumb ass committed the penalty screwed the team, not the rule.

[Dr. Gonzo]

I kindof agree that getting the ball at the spot of the interference is too much of a gift.

I thought you don't post here.

[monosylab1k]

crofl DarrinS went and hid back in the political forum

[Spurminator]

They should just make it reviewable.

[J.T.]

They should just make it reviewable.

The NFL should NEVER make flags a reviewable play

Enjoy your five and a half hour games if that ever happens

[san antonio spurs]

PI is a good rule that is just not called right. Some refs are still calling it like face guarding even though it isn't a rule anymore. Some even call incidental contact like a PI.
Making it a 15 yards penalty would allow defensive backs to just tackle the receiver to avoid a bigger gain.
I think they should make an exception and make this penalty reviewable. It changes the course of the game, so the refs should have another look at it before confirming the call. Players nowadays are so fast that it's harder to call it right.


Btw, it's true Peter King has admitted himself for liking the pats. However he's been critical of the pats when it was needed that I don't think he can be labeled a pats homer.

[san antonio spurs]

They should just make it reviewable.

I think the same thing. However this penalty should be the exception not the rule

[DesignatedT]

yes 15 yard penalty is a lot better.

[Obstructed_View]

I like it the way it is. Never change the rules because the officials can't do their job. Being able to tackle a guy on a long pass if you're worried about getting beat is a cop-out.

[J.T.]

tbh the only rules that should ever be changed are ones that improve player safety. i'm fine with big hits but not if they cause injuries that lead to former players only being able to say "huck it chuck it FOOTBALL!!!!" when they're in their sixties. but if you get hit and break a shoulder or tear something then that's what you get for playing football.

[dirk4mvp]

search google images for jets skinny and guess who shows up

http://katemate.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/rex-ryan.jpg

:lmao

:lmao you think he wants to tall to the ball coach efter det one?

[pawe]

If the rule is changed, they take away a team's weapon. It's not their fault they paid big money for WRs who can jump ball ala Fitzgerald and the CB is dumb enough to realize the team is desperate to be in FG range.
I also dont want the CBs hacking and grabbing my 1WR because he lacks the speed and anticipation to keep up with him.


If they even consider changing it, make the PI reviewable and give the refs the option of calling a 15 yd penalty if the PI is deemed intentional/desperate yardage by chucking it down field OR spot the ball where the foul was committed when it is reviewed unintentional.

[vander]

15? hell I'd make it 10! what a joke, this will turn into soccer/basketball pretty soon, teams will start actually trying to draw PI calls, tell their WRs to make contact and flop.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

IMO it shouldn't be so black and white. Most of the time it should just be 15 yards, but they should have something like "blatant pass interference" as a spot of the foul enforcement when the defender is obviously intentionally interfering because he was beat.

[samikeyp]

I'd like to see it at 15.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

15 yards max would be ideal, IMO.

Honestly though, I'd like to see the old 5 yd unintentional, 15 yd intentional facemask penalty brought back.

[FlavoredIcecream]

The NFL should NEVER make flags a reviewable play

Enjoy your five and a half hour games if that ever happens

How would that make games five and a half hours? If you made it so you can have unlimited reviews then it would make it 5 1/2 hours :lol

You only get 2 challenges per game and 3 if you win the previous 2. I wouldn't have a problem with making certain penalties reviewable.

But I like PI's the way they are.

[MannyIsGod]

Those of you saying make it two tierd are being really stupid, imo. If the current rule can't be interpreted by officials why on earth do you want to make it a harder judgement? The rule is fine as is. Yeah, sometimes teams get hosed by a bad call but thats not on the rule.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Those of you saying make it two tierd are being really stupid, imo. If the current rule can't be interpreted by officials why on earth do you want to make it a harder judgement? The rule is fine as is. Yeah, sometimes teams get hosed by a bad call but thats not on the rule.
I have no problem with how the current rule is, my only beef is these spot of the ball fouls that occur on interference when the receiver had a small chance at making the catch regardless.

[MannyIsGod]

So what? The defensive backs shouldn't interfere. Its like in basketball where a defender bails out an offensive player in a bad spot with a foul.

The advantage should go to the offense.

I also don't have a problem with making PI reviewable.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

The advantage should go to the offense.
Not in my book.

You say they "shouldn't interfere" as if every time a D-back interferes he makes a conscious decision to do so and could have easily avoided it. There's incidental contact that's flagged as interference all the time.

[Blake]

15 yards sounds good to me. College football has it right again.

Just like they have it right, or at least better, regardng overtime play

[MannyIsGod]

Not in my book.

You say they "shouldn't interfere" as if every time a D-back interferes he makes a conscious decision to do so and could have easily avoided it. There's incidental contact that's flagged as interference all the time.

Yeah, no. IF a defensive back can't play defense without bumping the receiver while the ball is in the air then thats on the defensive back for committing interference.

[Spurminator]

The only way I might adjust the rule is making it so the ball is placed on the 2 or 3 yard line instead of the 1, if the interference occurs in the end zone. Make it less of an automatic touchdown. But I would never change it to a 15-yard penalty.

[pawe]

I agree that the offense should get the advantage but there is still the unintentional PI. Those over the shoulder passes where contact with the DB would really be unintentional because the DB doesnt even know where the ball is.
Penalty should be as it is, I dont want to see defeated DBs grabbing WRs.

[Blake]

Yeah, no. IF a defensive back can't play defense without bumping the receiver while the ball is in the air then thats on the defensive back for committing interference.

but it doesn't seem fair when offensive pass interference is just a 10 yard penalty.

seems to me that the opposite would be to push the ball backwards the distance it was thrown.

[Obstructed_View]

but it doesn't seem fair when offensive pass interference is just a 10 yard penalty.

seems to me that the opposite would be to push the ball backwards the distance it was thrown.

Offensive pass interference is a ten yard penalty and loss of whatever happened on the play. Miles Austin was penalized the entire distance of the play, six points and ten yards when he pushed off.

[Blake]

Offensive pass interference is a ten yard penalty and loss of whatever happened on the play. Miles Austin was penalized the entire distance of the play, six points and ten yards when he pushed off.

he wasn't penalized the entire distance of the play because it wasn't a play.

that's no different than a defender interfering, catching the ball and going the other way for 6.

[Obstructed_View]

he wasn't penalized the entire distance of the play because it wasn't a play.

that's no different than a defender interfering, catching the ball and going the other way for 6.

Um, exactly. When the play is called back, you lose the result of the play. I'm not sure how we're disagreeing here.

[Blake]

Um, exactly. When the play is called back, you lose the result of the play. I'm not sure how we're disagreeing here.

Um, you responded to my post. If you need me to slow down these fast moving words for you, let me know.