Wade Phillips: Cowboys are a better 1-4 team than other 1-4 teams

[DeadlyDynasty]

Posted by Michael David Smith on October 20, 2010 7:47 AM ET
Former Cowboys coach Bill Parcells liked to say that his teams were what their record said they were. But current Cowboys coach Wade Phillips says his team is better than its record would suggest.

"I guess we think we're a better 1-4 team than some teams that are 1-4," Phillips said. "I mean mentally. They don't think they might not win the next game. Gosh, we might not win this next one. This team thinks . . . I still think they think they're going to win this next game."

There actually aren't any other 1-4 teams in the NFL right now, so I'm not sure which teams Phillips is referring to when he says "some teams that are 1-4." But Phillips' phrasing is interesting: He says the Cowboys think of themselves as a good team, even if their record is 1-4.

But the whole point of Parcells' old saying is that it's irrelevant how good the Cowboys think they are. What matters is how good their record says they are. And their record says they're two and a half games behind the Giants and Eagles in the NFC East, and a game and a half behind the Redskins.

So with the Giants coming to town on Monday night, the Cowboys had better be right when "they think they're going to win this next game." Unless they're going to be satisfied thinking they're better than other 1-5 teams.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/20/wade-phillips-cowboys-are-a-better-1-4-team-than-other-1-4-teams/

[samikeyp]

:lmao

wow.

Yeah..no. Even if there were such a thing, being the "best" 1-4 team means only one thing....you're 1-4. There is no best or worst involved. If you are 1-4, you suck, period.

[Cry Havoc]

:lmao

wow.

Yeah..no. Even if there were such a thing, being the "best" 1-4 team means only one thing....you're 1-4. There is no best or worst involved. If you are 1-4, you suck, period.

This is true, but as an objective observer (Bears fan), I do have to say that the Cowboys have basically outplayed every team they faced.

Problem is, they haven't been able to outplay themselves thus far.

I could easily see them beating the Giants this week, crushing the Jags at home, and then beating an injury riddled Packers team to get back to 4-4. In fact, I think that's exactly what will happen. They're struggling, but they are still a very good team, and the season isn't even 1/3rd of the way over yet. There's still a lot of football to be played. The Cowboys could go 9-2 or 10-1 down the stretch.

[Blake]

what's JJ waiting for? just can the fatass already.

[samikeyp]

This is true, but as an objective observer (Bears fan), I do have to say that the Cowboys have basically outplayed every team they faced.

Problem is, they haven't been able to outplay themselves thus far.

I could easily see them beating the Giants this week, crushing the Jags at home, and then beating an injury riddled Packers team to get back to 4-4. In fact, I think that's exactly what will happen. They're struggling, but they are still a very good team, and the season isn't even 1/3rd of the way over yet. There's still a lot of football to be played. The Cowboys could go 9-2 or 10-1 down the stretch.

agreed but still, 1-4 is still 1-4 and all Wade is doing is adding to the perception that he is a buffoon.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

what's JJ waiting for? just can the fatass already.
The fatass listens to JJ and never disagrees with him. If you can do that, JJ will keep you around as long as you want.

Just like Al Davis keeps Tom the Cable guy around. He's a terrible coach, but he'll do whatever Al Davis wants.

[slick'81]

well they are 1-4 thats about it

[leemajors]

JJ said they are not a 1-4 team, :lmao

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/10/jerry-jones-cowboys-arent-a-1-.html

[rjv]

dillusional

[Cry Havoc]

well they are 1-4 thats about it

1-4 with the potential to win 8 of their next 10 is much better than 1-4 with no real shot at even getting to 5 wins on the season.

The Cowboys are outplaying themselves right now. If they can fix that, they'll make a run at a playoff spot.

[coyotes_geek]

1-4 with the potential to win 8 of their next 10 is much better than 1-4 with no real shot at even getting to 5 wins on the season.

The Cowboys are outplaying themselves right now. If they can fix that, they'll make a run at a playoff spot.

p3-eavMSBnk

[Dr. Gonzo]

I actually agree with him. They are a few boneheaded penalties away from being at least 3-2. They are a good team, just stupid.

[monosylab1k]

tbh they are a bad or two play in each game away from being 5-0. but good teams don't make those kind of bad plays every game.

[BUMP]

The Cowboys could go 9-2 or 10-1 down the stretch.


Have you seen our schedule?

[leemajors]

tbh they are a bad or two play in each game away from being 5-0. but good teams don't make those kind of bad plays every game.

this

[Blake]

tbh they are a bad or two play in each game away from being 5-0. but good teams don't make those kind of bad plays every game.

even an average coach makes sure those kind of bad plays and stupid celebrating penalties don't happen again and again.

[Blake]

The fatass listens to JJ and never disagrees with him. If you can do that, JJ will keep you around as long as you want.

Just like Al Davis keeps Tom the Cable guy around. He's a terrible coach, but he'll do whatever Al Davis wants.

yeah, I guess that's why Campo is still around. He would have no problem shining JJ's shoes and wiping his ass after a bad dinner at Taco Bueno.

[Cry Havoc]

even an average coach makes sure those kind of bad plays and stupid celebrating penalties don't happen again and again.

Whereas some coaches (Lovie Smith) are the cause of bad plays. :depressed

[MannyIsGod]

tbh they are a bad or two play in each game away from being 5-0. but good teams don't make those kind of bad plays every game.

TBH there's a long list of teams who are a bad play or two in each game from being good teams. That doesn't mean shit.

The only thing worse than hitting bottom is deluding yourself you haven't and not changing anything.

I'm sure these same people will think the Cowboys are the best 2-8 team if it comes to that.

[Obstructed_View]

TBH there's a long list of teams who are a bad play or two in each game from being good teams. That doesn't mean shit.

The only thing worse than hitting bottom is deluding yourself you haven't and not changing anything.

I'm sure these same people will think the Cowboys are the best 2-8 team if it comes to that.

Agreed. They're exactly as 1-4 as every other team in the history of sports with that record. It's amazing how they just assume they're going to win games when they aren't really taking any responsibility for what's happened so far.

[AlleyOopNazi]

Jerry still thinks they are superbowl bound. haha hittin the booze early I see

[Death In June]

I think Wade still has one of the best winning percentages of any cowboys headcoach, and has won 1 more playoff game than any cowboys head coach in the last 12 years. Offense and defense are both ranked in the top ten. Just sayin'. People tend to forget the turd filled seasons the cowboys faced year after year.

[samikeyp]

Jerry still thinks they are superbowl bound. haha hittin the booze early I see


Oh I guarantee they are still Super Bowl bound.







every team in the league gets tickets. ;)

[samikeyp]

I think Wade still has one of the best winning percentages of any cowboys headcoach, and has won 1 more playoff game than any cowboys head coach in the last 12 years. Offense and defense are both ranked in the top ten. Just sayin'. People tend to forget the turd filled seasons the cowboys faced year after year.

Which is all well and good but the only stat that matters is 1-4.

[Blake]

Whereas some coaches (Lovie Smith) are the cause of bad plays. :depressed

what sucks for Chicago is that Lovie had the bears in a SB so he gets a little more of a pass for bad play calling.

the Cowboys had no business running and tossing the ball around on the last play of the game like that. Just bad.

[Blake]

I think Wade still has one of the best winning percentages of any cowboys headcoach, and has won 1 more playoff game than any cowboys head coach in the last 12 years. Offense and defense are both ranked in the top ten. Just sayin'. People tend to forget the turd filled seasons the cowboys faced year after year.

thanks to turd filled rosters that included juggernaut players like quincy, troy hambrick, testaverde, bledsoe, and drew henson.

[dirk4mvp]

I'd like to know which 8 out of the next 10 teams the Cowboys are going to beat (potentially).

[Blake]

Mon, Oct. 25 N.Y. GIANTS W
Sun, Oct. 31 JACKSONVILLE W
Sun, Nov. 7 @ Green Bay W
Sun, Nov. 14 @ N.Y. Giants W
Sun, Nov. 21 DETROIT W
Thu., Nov. 25 NEW ORLEANS W
Sun, Dec. 5 @ Indianapolis W
Sun, Dec. 12 PHILADELPHIA W
Sun, Dec. 19 WASHINGTON W
Sat, Dec. 25 @ Arizona W
Sun, Jan. 2 @ Philadelphia W

[dirk4mvp]

all they do is W, tbh.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I think Wade still has one of the best winning percentages of any cowboys headcoach
This is one of the dumbest arguments possible. He has a high win % because he took over a team that was already playoff caliber, and as a 3-4 defensive coach he inherited a defense that had a ton of good 3-4 personnel. He had to do very little rebuilding as the coach, he got to come in and focus on winning with a team that was capable of winning.

No matter how you slice it Wade Phillips is a terrible coach.

[Cry Havoc]

Mon, Oct. 25 N.Y. GIANTS W
Sun, Oct. 31 JACKSONVILLE W
Sun, Nov. 7 @ Green Bay W
Sun, Nov. 14 @ N.Y. Giants W
Sun, Nov. 21 DETROIT W
Thu., Nov. 25 NEW ORLEANS W
Sun, Dec. 5 @ Indianapolis L
Sun, Dec. 12 PHILADELPHIA W
Sun, Dec. 19 WASHINGTON W
Sat, Dec. 25 @ Arizona W
Sun, Jan. 2 @ Philadelphia L

I don't think the above is out of the question. Beating the Giants twice will be tough, but I think they are extremely overrated right now as a team.

[JudynTX]

Mon, Oct. 25 N.Y. GIANTS W
Sun, Oct. 31 JACKSONVILLE W
Sun, Nov. 7 @ Green Bay W
Sun, Nov. 14 @ N.Y. Giants W
Sun, Nov. 21 DETROIT W
Thu., Nov. 25 NEW ORLEANS W
Sun, Dec. 5 @ Indianapolis W
Sun, Dec. 12 PHILADELPHIA W
Sun, Dec. 19 WASHINGTON W
Sat, Dec. 25 @ Arizona W
Sun, Jan. 2 @ Philadelphia W

:lmao @ beating the Eagles twice.

[Blake]

all they do is W, tbh.

when they played against Vince, it was a win-win.

[Blake]

:lmao @ beating the Eagles twice.

a possible third time if they meet in the playoffs.

[kamikazi_player]

Mon, Oct. 25 N.Y. GIANTS W
Sun, Oct. 31 JACKSONVILLE W
Sun, Nov. 7 @ Green Bay W
Sun, Nov. 14 @ N.Y. Giants W
Sun, Nov. 21 DETROIT W
Thu., Nov. 25 NEW ORLEANS W
Sun, Dec. 5 @ Indianapolis W
Sun, Dec. 12 PHILADELPHIA W
Sun, Dec. 19 WASHINGTON W
Sat, Dec. 25 @ Arizona W
Sun, Jan. 2 @ Philadelphia W

:lol that's a little too much. I'd say we lose to GB, Ind, and one of the Phil matchups, probably the last one to make it sweet.

[ShoogarBear]

I would pay Wade's salary to keep him as Cowboys' coach.

[IronMexican]

:lol that's a little too much. I'd say we lose to GB, Ind, and one of the Phil matchups, probably the last one to make it sweet.

9-7? No.

[Roddy Beaubois]

:lmao @ beating the Eagles twice.

jesus....

[dirk4mvp]

a sports take from judyintx, ladies and gents.

[kamikazi_player]

9-7? No.

As best case scenario, yes
Worse case? hell they can be 4-12 if they keep playing like they are right now.

[dbreiden83080]

Not really

They basically suck this year..

[Roddy Beaubois]

Can this guy polejack George St. Pierre any harder?

[dbreiden83080]

Can this guy polejack George St. Pierre any harder?

I can try

If you like...

I threw my Dirk avvy in the trash along with the other garbage..

[badfish22]

I can try

If you like...

I threw my Dirk avvy in the trash along with the other garbage..

wow

[Steve Kerr]

I can try

If you like...

I threw my Dirk avvy in the trash along with the other garbage..
Great comeback spurs/yankees/mmgay fan.

[dbreiden83080]

Great comeback spurs/yankees/mmgay fan.

The fact that you would remember i am a Yanks fan when it has been like 2 years since i talked Yanks on this forum doesn't say anything good about you fella...

[Steve Kerr]

Wtf I remember how butthurt you got about Steinfaggot dying, dont front nigga, stick to what you're good at wrestling with dudes in spandex.

[dirk4mvp]

I can try

If you like...

I threw my Dirk avvy in the trash along with the other garbage..

Are you taking a beginner's course from lefty?

[Obstructed_View]

Well, at least the Cowboys are better than other 1-5 teams. I'm praying somebody asks him about that in the press conference.

[slick'81]

1-5 ftw!!!

[MannyIsGod]

Well, at least the Cowboys are better than other 1-5 teams. I'm praying somebody asks him about that in the press conference.

:lmao that would be fucking epic.

[ShoogarBear]

:lmao that would be fucking epic.

I hope you're happy now. I gotta scramble for a substitute QB for FL.

[4>0rings]

:lmao thread full of win

[DeadlyDynasty]

if jacobs can lose one more fumble I win by a half point

[Obstructed_View]

:lmao that would be fucking epic.

I'm hoping someone asks him how many scores he needs when he's down by 18 points.

[MannyIsGod]

I hope you're happy now. I gotta scramble for a substitute QB for FL.

:lmao

Serves you right. Don't worry Farve is hurt for me too but somehow I think thats a blessing in disguise and I get Vick back the week after next.

[ShoogarBear]

Eli is my second string, but he's got a bye next week.

And of course, Romo is on the "can't cut" list, at least until they put him on IR. :bang

[J.T.]

:lmao

Serves you right. Don't worry Farve is hurt for me too but somehow I think thats a blessing in disguise and I get Vick back the week after next.

lol i have favre and vick as well, i think we already talked about that.

favres about to get cut outright from my team. my draft qbs were favre and orton and ortons been doing fine for me since vick injury even if his team is doin shit like gettin blowed up by the raiders.

romo injury just put me in firm control of 2nd place in my league. there's three of us tied for 1st at 5-1 and somehow i'm 3rd b/c i have the lowest ff points of the 3 even though i beat the first place guy head to head in week 1. i just passed 2nd place in total ff points and play #1 again week after next. primed to take control of my league just gotta play the waiting game.