My fiancee just left me

[ElNono]

Just don't over-analyze it, and keep your mind busy on other stuff. I know it's harder said than done right now, but it's what's going to take you through the end of this.

So, on that note, I think mono had a good post basically describing what the Mavs season is going to look like. Something along the lines of a so-so start, then some major trade for seemingly new 'weapons', a big run in March, only to fizzle in the first round once the pressure of the playoffs mount.

[NRHector]

I'm trying to encourage the guy from my personal experience.

Y'all can keep singing the 'broads' and the 'bitches' tunes, that's fine by me. I have no problem telling anybody that wants to hear it that I'm a happily married man.sorry Nono that was not my intention

[Koolaid_Man]

Fin is letter writing nothing more nothing less...he ain't fooling King Kool...if he was hurt he'd a kept that to himself...he and vulva are some scandalous bitches....

[ElNono]

Is that Artest on ABC right now?

[vy65]

imho ...

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[The TroutBum]

Haha, you fucking loser.

[Koolaid_Man]

and Kori I think the board should take up a collection and buy you a bouquet of your favorite flowers. You deserve it to say the least. I bet it never crossed the minds of the imbeciles to do something nice for you for being here for us. They talk about how their friends with you but I know for a fact I'm the first to suggest such a thing...aren't I?

[VBM]

imho....

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[silverblk mystix]

Even though you are a mavs fan-I feel for you...
but if you wanna hear some truth...here goes;

Sometimes we are a little blinded-and refuse to see.

She TOLD you the reason and you refused to believe her...it happens...it happens to the best of us.
She plainly stated-she has never been in a relationship longer than a year-she cannot give you what you want-she does not wanna be tied-she wants to be single.

Those are all true things about her-she is who she is-but you are trying to make her into your dream girl that lives in YOUR head.
Not gonna happen.
Reminds me of the guy who comes across a snake and the snake assures him he won't bite him-the dude keeps walking-snake bites him...guy asks why?
Snake says....you KNEW what I was when you saw me ...a snake..blah-blah...

I know exactly what you are going through...I was blinded a couple of times til I realized one thing----PAY ATTENTION!
Pay attention to your girl....watch her...study her...see WHO she really is...most times they will tell you...

She told you EXACTLY who she was...and after the one year or so...she did exactly what she has ALWAYS done...got bored/scared/whatever...she played her part the way she always has-because that is who she is.

Move on.

One last bit of advice;

Don't listen to people who say-stay busy...forget about it...don't think about it...immerse yourself in this-that-or the other---all WRONG.

What you need to do is UNDERSTAND.

Understand why you depended on another human being for YOUR happiness and the pain will go away. Understand why we fall for the illusion that there is a ONE person for everyone crap-and then keep going from heartbreak to heartbreak-but I am gonna keep looking because the RIGHT ONE --is out there---bullshit....
and when you begin to understand and SEE through those illusions...then you won't ever be hurt again.

A little analogy here;

A guy goes to the doctor with a pain in his stomach...doctor examines him...gives him some meds...says, ``go home...have your neighbor take these meds...and then YOU will feel better!''

Sounds absurd?

It is. But THAT is exactly what we do when we talk of love....we THINK we will feel better when and IF someone ELSE changes their behavior to suit US.

UNDERSTAND how you came to depend on another human being for your happiness and you will never,ever be in this kind of pain again.

Good luck.

[TE]

Dude, just have a few beers, read about cosmology. Wrap your head around the idea that our existence is but a grain of sand in a vastly large ocean, and trust me, it'll go away...the pain that is.

[The TroutBum]

After you sober up, you'll still be a fucking loser. Suicide is the only option at this point.

[TE]

After you sober up, you'll still be a fucking loser. Suicide is the only option at this point.

Or that.

[Oh, Gee!!]

just realize that she was already full-on fucking some dude 6 weeks before she dumped your stupid ass. grow your balls back and have fun for a change!

[The TroutBum]

Big. I'm a big Mormon shit. Proud too.


Did I mention my huge penis? It's awesome.

[DazedAndConfused]

I think the single most attractive thing for a woman is a man who has purpose and direction in his life. Figure out what yours is and make that your #1 priority, instead of pleasing a woman. You will find that this is really what a woman wants, she does not want a man who succumbs to her every need and makes pleasing her his mission in life. She wants a man that is on his own path and you will find that once you are on your path most women will genuinely be interested in helping you succeed in your goals.

A woman cannot and will not feel sustained attraction for a man she does not admire.

[Giuseppe]

Even though you are a mavs fan-I feel for you...
but if you wanna hear some truth...here goes;

Sometimes we are a little blinded-and refuse to see.

She TOLD you the reason and you refused to believe her...it happens...it happens to the best of us.
She plainly stated-she has never been in a relationship longer than a year-she cannot give you what you want-she does not wanna be tied-she wants to be single.

Those are all true things about her-she is who she is-but you are trying to make her into your dream girl that lives in YOUR head.
Not gonna happen.
Reminds me of the guy who comes across a snake and the snake assures him he won't bite him-the dude keeps walking-snake bites him...guy asks why?
Snake says....you KNEW what I was when you saw me ...a snake..blah-blah...

I know exactly what you are going through...I was blinded a couple of times til I realized one thing----PAY ATTENTION!
Pay attention to your girl....watch her...study her...see WHO she really is...most times they will tell you...

She told you EXACTLY who she was...and after the one year or so...she did exactly what she has ALWAYS done...got bored/scared/whatever...she played her part the way she always has-because that is who she is.

Move on.

One last bit of advice;

Don't listen to people who say-stay busy...forget about it...don't think about it...immerse yourself in this-that-or the other---all WRONG.

What you need to do is UNDERSTAND.

Understand why you depended on another human being for YOUR happiness and the pain will go away. Understand why we fall for the illusion that there is a ONE person for everyone crap-and then keep going from heartbreak to heartbreak-but I am gonna keep looking because the RIGHT ONE --is out there---bullshit....
and when you begin to understand and SEE through those illusions...then you won't ever be hurt again.

A little analogy here;

A guy goes to the doctor with a pain in his stomach...doctor examines him...gives him some meds...says, ``go home...have your neighbor take these meds...and then YOU will feel better!''

Sounds absurd?

It is. But THAT is exactly what we do when we talk of love....we THINK we will feel better when and IF someone ELSE changes their behavior to suit US.

UNDERSTAND how you came to depend on another human being for your happiness and you will never,ever be in this kind of pain again.

Good luck.

Seriously, food for thought, Silv.

[kamikazi_player]

I like how the first page of this thread everyone ignores lefty :lol

[ElNono]

Even though you are a mavs fan-I feel for you...
but if you wanna hear some truth...here goes;

Sometimes we are a little blinded-and refuse to see.

She TOLD you the reason and you refused to believe her...it happens...it happens to the best of us.
She plainly stated-she has never been in a relationship longer than a year-she cannot give you what you want-she does not wanna be tied-she wants to be single.

Those are all true things about her-she is who she is-but you are trying to make her into your dream girl that lives in YOUR head.
Not gonna happen.
Reminds me of the guy who comes across a snake and the snake assures him he won't bite him-the dude keeps walking-snake bites him...guy asks why?
Snake says....you KNEW what I was when you saw me ...a snake..blah-blah...

I know exactly what you are going through...I was blinded a couple of times til I realized one thing----PAY ATTENTION!
Pay attention to your girl....watch her...study her...see WHO she really is...most times they will tell you...

She told you EXACTLY who she was...and after the one year or so...she did exactly what she has ALWAYS done...got bored/scared/whatever...she played her part the way she always has-because that is who she is.

Move on.

One last bit of advice;

Don't listen to people who say-stay busy...forget about it...don't think about it...immerse yourself in this-that-or the other---all WRONG.

What you need to do is UNDERSTAND.

Understand why you depended on another human being for YOUR happiness and the pain will go away. Understand why we fall for the illusion that there is a ONE person for everyone crap-and then keep going from heartbreak to heartbreak-but I am gonna keep looking because the RIGHT ONE --is out there---bullshit....
and when you begin to understand and SEE through those illusions...then you won't ever be hurt again.

A little analogy here;

A guy goes to the doctor with a pain in his stomach...doctor examines him...gives him some meds...says, ``go home...have your neighbor take these meds...and then YOU will feel better!''

Sounds absurd?

It is. But THAT is exactly what we do when we talk of love....we THINK we will feel better when and IF someone ELSE changes their behavior to suit US.

UNDERSTAND how you came to depend on another human being for your happiness and you will never,ever be in this kind of pain again.

Good luck.

You're spot on, and ultimately these are a few of the things you learn.

The thing is, when the 'damage' is too recent, it takes time to gain the perspective to actually understand. For me, keeping my mind busy helped me not to over-analyze. I look back at it and it feels completely retarded I was winded up like that, but it was what it was, and for me it was part of the process.

[#2!]

Even though you are a mavs fan-I feel for you...
but if you wanna hear some truth...here goes;

Sometimes we are a little blinded-and refuse to see.

She TOLD you the reason and you refused to believe her...it happens...it happens to the best of us.
She plainly stated-she has never been in a relationship longer than a year-she cannot give you what you want-she does not wanna be tied-she wants to be single.

Those are all true things about her-she is who she is-but you are trying to make her into your dream girl that lives in YOUR head.
Not gonna happen.
Reminds me of the guy who comes across a snake and the snake assures him he won't bite him-the dude keeps walking-snake bites him...guy asks why?
Snake says....you KNEW what I was when you saw me ...a snake..blah-blah...

I know exactly what you are going through...I was blinded a couple of times til I realized one thing----PAY ATTENTION!
Pay attention to your girl....watch her...study her...see WHO she really is...most times they will tell you...

She told you EXACTLY who she was...and after the one year or so...she did exactly what she has ALWAYS done...got bored/scared/whatever...she played her part the way she always has-because that is who she is.

Move on.

One last bit of advice;

Don't listen to people who say-stay busy...forget about it...don't think about it...immerse yourself in this-that-or the other---all WRONG.

What you need to do is UNDERSTAND.

Understand why you depended on another human being for YOUR happiness and the pain will go away. Understand why we fall for the illusion that there is a ONE person for everyone crap-and then keep going from heartbreak to heartbreak-but I am gonna keep looking because the RIGHT ONE --is out there---bullshit....
and when you begin to understand and SEE through those illusions...then you won't ever be hurt again.

A little analogy here;

A guy goes to the doctor with a pain in his stomach...doctor examines him...gives him some meds...says, ``go home...have your neighbor take these meds...and then YOU will feel better!''

Sounds absurd?

It is. But THAT is exactly what we do when we talk of love....we THINK we will feel better when and IF someone ELSE changes their behavior to suit US.

UNDERSTAND how you came to depend on another human being for your happiness and you will never,ever be in this kind of pain again.

Good luck.

Couldn't you have gotten here sooner so people wouldn't have to read 11 full pages?:lol

I agree with the first half of what silv said especially. The truth is you know the person you've been with better than you may want to admit right now. It'll take time (if y'all stay apart that is), and during that time things like "you have an ideal version of the girl in your head" will sound like bullshit, or even worse just words. Words that float in front of you like smoke, and even if you try your hardest to grasp them they'll slip right past.

The fact is that time is the best remedy; all of the advice that is given to you in the early stages of the breakup will lie dormant for awhile, and then one-by-one each word will gain meaning in regards to your own situation.

Good luck, I know how terrible this kind of thing can be.

[JJ Hickson]

I like how the first page of this thread everyone ignores lefty :lol


Nothing new. No one pays attention to that faggot.

[Ghazi]

cliffnotes plz

[JJ Hickson]

cliffnotes plz



- Findog's fiance left him

- People showed sympathy/gave advice

- Mavs get knocked out in first round

- Jungle juice recipes

[silverblk mystix]

You're spot on, and ultimately these are a few of the things you learn.

The thing is, when the 'damage' is too recent, it takes time to gain the perspective to actually understand. For me, keeping my mind busy helped me not to over-analyze. I look back at it and it feels completely retarded I was winded up like that, but it was what it was, and for me it was part of the process.

:toast

Well, I think most of us have been there-if we have lived long enough.

The first time for me, I drowned myself in work...the good thing that came out of it though-was a little extra cash, better physical shape,etc...

The BAD thing though, was that I never understood MYSELF, instead I allowed my illusions to keep clashing against reality...trying over and over...because this time ....SHE will be the right one.

Until you get tired of your sickness and begin the long road to curing yourself.

One last thing....remember...pain is a sign that there is falseness there, most times we look at someone else when we have emotional pain....but the place to look at is in yourself...

oh....yeah I forgot....

mavs win 54 games....dirk has a good year....lose in second round of playoffs.

[namlook]

Probably the only reason I haven't completely turned into a basketcase is that a small part of me harbors hope that we can reconcile, but I'm trying to stay grounded and prepare for the worst-case scenario that she won't come around.

It's not going to happen. Once a woman makes a move like that you need to move on. It's painful but you will get over it in time.

Also if she does this once you can never trust her to not hold your emotions hostage like this in the future. Cut it off now and move on.

And remember this: You should never want to be in a relationship with any woman that doesn't want you.

You should also feel lucky that she did this now and not after you got married.

[silverblk mystix]

it's not going to happen. Once a woman makes a move like that you need to move on. It's painful but you will get over it in time.

Also if she does this once you can never trust her to not hold your emotions hostage like this in the future. Cut it off now and move on.

And remember this: You should never want to be in a relationship with any woman that doesn't want you.

You should also feel lucky that she did this now and not after you got married.

+1,000,000

[silverblk mystix]

Seriously, food for thought, Silv.

:toast

[Brazil]

Sorry to hear that Fin'

Best advises are
- don't drink don't smoke because it will be worst after
- don't try to fix things
- forget her
- see your buddies

what you will do because this is the way it works:
- drink
- smoke
- party
- try to fix things

best you can do is try to stay in control and don't exagerate, that is all.

time is the only medecine

[ezau]

Nam, with the goods. "What does not kill me only makes me stronger." is a truism of the highest caliber. It's over used, yes, but, it is absolutely confirmed.

Fin, you're a fine fellow. You have a good heart, and there is no better measure of a man.

Amazing advice, Cully:toast

[ezau]

It's not going to happen. Once a woman makes a move like that you need to move on. It's painful but you will get over it in time.

Also if she does this once you can never trust her to not hold your emotions hostage like this in the future. Cut it off now and move on.

And remember this: You should never want to be in a relationship with any woman that doesn't want you.

You should also feel lucky that she did this now and not after you got married.

Nam with the goods

[Leonard Curse]

Sorry to hear that Fin.
I went through a relationship like that (not as close to marriage, but severe mood swing like that, no explanations, sometimes the 'I need time on my own' BS, severe broken heart, borderline-paranoia, etc.)
When I look back at it, I'm grateful that after the ensuing pain and recovery things didn't work out. It was a learning experience and an eye opener.
My advice, stay far... far away from women like that.

My next serious relationship was a couple of years after that one, and I met a much 'simpler' person (in terms of mood swings/personal complexity), whom I made clear from the get go that communication was priority number one. If she couldn't tell me how she felt, and she kept piling shit inside, then eventually it would all come out one day and we'll be screwed by then. We built a pretty solid relationship around that, and after dating for a little over a year, we moved together. We married shortly afterwards.

I have 5 years being married (anniversary this coming Saturday), and to be honest I'm probably the happiest married man alive. Wouldn't have it any other way really. But I also understand that I found the closest thing to what I wanted/needed, and that we're 100% honest to each other. We don't hold anything back. And that's what works great for us.

Ultimately, if she feels like she can dump you but she can't look at you straight in the eyes and tell you what she really thinks or how she really feels, then that's a mammoth warning light. Stay away. I understand the pain that goes through you, and I would say: try to keep distracted. Go play some basketball, keep your mind busy at work, and let time heal you. You will come out of this with a lot better idea of what you want from a relationship, and specifically what you absolutely do not want. And I'm sure someday you'll cross roads with your match. Really wish you the best bro, because I know how painful this can be. But there's always a light at the end of the tunnel.


elnono is correct if you were meant to be with her you would still be together and if shes able to dump you like that (the person she loves) without any sort of big reason could you imagine if something did happen to effect the relationship?? she would split so fast, so its best to stay away! if you get back with her and beg it will make her lose that respect for you and also think she can do whatever she wants remember youre the man here!!

women play mind games and thats just the way they are! theyll be the first to admit theyre crazy, women obsess about characters in movies and and celebrities on tv shows anything superficial it sounds terrible but its true. women live in fantasy more than you and i can believe, when they see these movies and reality t.v shows they display the perfect guy as some mind reader who knows and gives the women her every desire lets not forget the guy is loaded some how and very handsome. this is fed to our women today and has been for many years now and like it or not this is what women believe they deserve!!! for what ?? well they think for their beauty or ya know ... what they give.

ive learned some crazy things dating beautiful women, theyre insecure and want something to complain about if theyre man does everything for them and worships the ground they walk on they lose respect for those men. thats why they are obsessed with guys that treat them like shit because they always have some sort of drama in their lives.

@findog im really sorry to hear that your going through this crap. have comfort in knowing that if your a good catch and you were a good fiance to her and she still wasnt happy. know that she will be unhappy & end up old and lonely like most of the women today. theyre so beautiful but in no time that all fades and then there left ugly, old, bitter, and lonely! just be happy and live doing things that make you happy and women will fall in place especially if your not searching for one!!

[Findog]

She plainly stated-she has never been in a relationship longer than a year-she cannot give you what you want-she does not wanna be tied-she wants to be single.

Fair enough. But she always acted happy throughout the course of our relationship. I knew she wasn't faking that. And she told me many times how I was different from all the guys that came before. She basically put the failures of her previous rel'ships on things she found lacking with her exes, not a commitment phobia. Maybe she does that with every guy she dates and I'm now finding that out the hard way. I'm not trying to bargain here and deny reality.


Understand why you depended on another human being for YOUR happiness and the pain will go away

Who says I put all of the responsibility for being happy on her? I've always believe the following: I would rather be single than be in an unsatisfying, dysfunctional, whatever relationship, but I would rather be in a fulfilling, happy relationship filled with love than be single. For the most part before she came along I think I made the best of being single. And when I was with her, she added immensely to that happiness. When your fiancee leaves you, or your parents die, or you lose your job, or whatever calamity finds you, you're not supposed to be happy about it. You're going to feel pain. My choice is whether or not I want to grieve well or grieve poorly. Whether I want to endure that pain and learn from it, and come out of it a wiser and stronger person, or whether I want to wallow in misery and engage in suffering.

[Trill Clinton]

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[Mr.Bottomtooth]

- Findog's fiance left him

- People showed sympathy/gave advice

- Mavs get knocked out in first round

- Jungle juice recipes

:lol

[Giuseppe]

My choice is whether or not I want to grieve well or grieve poorly. Whether I want to endure that pain and learn from it, and come out of it a wiser and stronger person, or whether I want to wallow in misery and engage in suffering.

You'll do it all, Fin. And there ain't nothing wrong with that.

[Giuseppe]

Vulv, we all like Fin, he's aces with us, but, there are two sides to these stories.

Fin needs a cut man in his corner, yes, but, he doesn't need "yes" men.

Am I gettin' thru to ya, big fella?

[Giuseppe]

As Silv admonished a page or two back: she did explain. Fin has just chosen to not process the information. Sometimes the mind can only handle so much pain. Many times the old lady and I argue viciously...days later it'll surface in my mind certain things that were said that I just now recall and I'll go after her afresh.

You don't have a lengthy relationship with a girl and brand her "shitty" because it's over.

[koriwhat]

I need to show my appreciation for the Jew Krew having my back tbh.

hahaha and rape juice hahahaha!


It's a struggle for the Jewish people in these times. Need to stick together imo.

whatever... ain't a struggle for my millionaire boss. he's sittin' high in the sky with the finer things in life.



We began talking marriage about 3-4 months into the relationship.

biggest mistake ever!

why are some dudes in such a rush to commit and i'm not just talking gf/bf shit either, i'm talking marriage? wtf?! my brother did the same and he's married to the ugliest, shittiest, dumbfuckin' bitch i have ever met. i dubbed that bitch "beast from the east".

anyhow, get your game on but never ever be backed by the opposition into halfcourt and think you're going to get the ball off to your 2 guard waiting for a 3 in the corner. keep your court vision on and make sure you make the right plays.

women are fuckin' crazy no matter how you spin it and they're not rational at all. maybe your chick was suckin' and fuckin' some other dudes dick and maybe she wasn't, you're wasting time thinking about such things. time fuckin' wasted. move on!

btw, the fag squad has me ballin' daily because they all seem to be a bunch of drama queens who have a bunch of shit piling up on themselves lately. shit is gettin' to the point of total hilarity. as much as yall troll me, i can take solace in my ability not to come in here and cry over some old pussy. you got problems, keep them off the internet!

fag squad! hahahahaha! thanks for the laughs.

[BUMP]

he's married to the ugliest, shittiest, dumbfuckin' bitch i have ever met. i dubbed that bitch "beast from the east".


:lmao

[koriwhat]

she shouldn't have led Fin on all the way to the point of engagement

dude... 3 to 4 months before getting engaged. 'nuff said.

[Phillip]

hahaha and rape juice hahahaha!



whatever... ain't a struggle for my millionaire boss. he's sittin' high in the sky with the finer things in life.




biggest mistake ever!

why are some dudes in such a rush to commit and i'm not just talking gf/bf shit either, i'm talking marriage? wtf?! my brother did the same and he's married to the ugliest, shittiest, dumbfuckin' bitch i have ever met. i dubbed that bitch "beast from the east".

anyhow, get your game on but never ever be backed by the opposition into halfcourt and think you're going to get the ball off to your 2 guard waiting for a 3 in the corner. keep your court vision on and make sure you make the right plays.

women are fuckin' crazy no matter how you spin it and they're not rational at all. maybe your chick was suckin' and fuckin' some other dudes dick and maybe she wasn't, you're wasting time thinking about such things. time fuckin' wasted. move on!

btw, the fag squad has me ballin' daily because they all seem to be a bunch of drama queens who have a bunch of shit piling up on themselves lately. shit is gettin' to the point of total hilarity. as much as yall troll me, i can take solace in my ability not to come in here and cry over some old pussy. you got problems, keep them off the internet!

fag squad! hahahahaha! thanks for the laughs.

[tlongII]

Ah, who gives a shit? You gotta be crazy to get married these days.

[koriwhat]

Ah, who gives a shit? You gotta be crazy to get married these days.

:tu

fuck religion, fuck politics, fuck the police, and fuck marriage!

[Giuseppe]

so you think some vague bullshit answer like "i just can't love you the right way" is a legitimate way to end an engagement?

In your mind there is no legitimate way to end an engagement.

Fin has every right to deflect her voice when she is in rejecting mode. It's natural for him to do so. It'll seep in as time goes by. When he's ready.

Relationships are messy, especially twixt Americans. We're spoiled & privileged.

This kinda reminds me of the "Good Times" episode where "James" dies down South in an automobile accident. The family finds out up in Chicago via telephone, the children are devastated. "Florida" though immediately goes into total denial and prepares for his arrival and his wake in near catatonic state. The children are in turns concerned, perplexed, and outraged at her behavior. Each tries to speak to her, but, she'll have none of it. None.

The wake takes place in the apartment in a lightly lit set, somber tones (surreal to see this on this show) slow gaits as one after another pay their respect to "Florida" and try desperately to draw her out and get her to grieve. She's adamant. She rebuffs each attempt firmly and without movement.

The guests finally leave, she tells the three children to go to their rooms that she'll clean up by herself. She begins taking dishes from the living room to the kitchen. Grabs the empty glass punch bowl at this point, turns to the kitchen, takes two steps in, stops, quivers a beat, slams the bowl to the floor shattering it, uttering in bitter, terse hatred: "dayum! dayum! dayum!"........grief is patient. It had waited on her.

[Sportcamper]

FinDog by Saturday Night...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJOuTr0BXb4&feature=related

[dickface]

XuCuohleiV0

[koriwhat]

dickface sucks and so does stepbrothers! dejavu reading like 3-4 fuckin' threads and you posting this bs youtube stepbrothers crap in all of them.

[Eric Dampier]

dickface sucks and so does stepbrothers! dejavu reading like 3-4 fuckin' threads and you posting this bs youtube stepbrothers crap in all of them.

[koriwhat]

...

found a home yet? cleveland, heat, knicks, who?

[koriwhat]

btw fin, cheer up, smoke a fat j, and get all boozed up.

[dickface]

XuCuohleiV0

[Ignignokt]

btw, the fag squad has me ballin' daily because they all seem to be a bunch of drama queens who have a bunch of shit piling up on themselves lately. shit is gettin' to the point of total hilarity. as much as yall troll me, i can take solace in my ability not to come in here and cry over some old pussy. you got problems, keep them off the internet!

fag squad! hahahahaha! thanks for the laughs.

[Muser]

stfu stepbrothers is awesome.

[koriwhat]

stfu stepbrothers is awesome.

yeah, just like the hangover right? :lol

[Muser]

Fuck yeah

[Muser]

TsFZFHzf2d8

[Giuseppe]

I'm sick to death of Ferrell though. Him & Vaughn are over exposed.

[koriwhat]

I'm sick to death of Ferrell though. Him & Vaughn are over exposed.

:tu

[picc84]

Sad to think that in about 6 months time, when the mavs are knocked out of the playoffs, this thread WILL be used against him. Such is the nature of the forum.

I doubt findog will give much of a shit. But it is interesting to see a bunch of names busy in the act of console and taking time out of their normal flaming/trolling personalities, and knowing the same names will be citing this thread along with laugh emoticons in april/may.

Eh.

But all the good advice has already been said. And he's probably listening to it all, but not hearing it. Not yet. GL findog, and know that the explanation you wanted is never going to come out of her mouth. The more you try to get her to explain, the less you're going to like what she says. Take her first answer at face value, and determine for yourself what that means for you and how you move forward.

(that bitch probably was cheating though)

[Muser]

I'm sick to death of Ferrell though. Him & Vaughn are over exposed.

Vaughn fucking sucks, only film I like with him is Dodgeball but he still sucks in it. Ferrell is hit and miss, his style gets quite boring.

[Giuseppe]

know that the explanation you wanted is never going to come out of her mouth. The more you try to get her to explain, the less you're going to like what she says. Take her first answer at face value, and determine for yourself what that means for you and how you move forward.

(that bitch probably was cheating though)

I don't think she was cheating. She just started listening to her friends. I won't let Katie-girl have friends. She has her work and her shopping and her talking. That's enough.

If I were a girl I'd want a guy like Fin. A regular fellow who cared deeply for me, and was devoted to my needs. There are so many hairballs out there. Fin is just meat & potatos.

[picc84]

As usual, you're probably right Cul. Its just with women you never know, i'll be damned if the devil didn't learn lying from them. They can be so convincing with an act just like the one fin's ex wife-to-be put on, that they even convince themselves its the gods honest truth.

Now, i'm not saying I know this, or I know that, about fin's relationship. But I know a little about women. And "I need to be single" or "I need to be alone, or the swinger's favorite, "I can't love you the way you need to be loved"....those have all been code words for finding somebody else, and not havin' the guts to tell you about it, for many a fella, many a time. And vice versa, if we're being honest as men.

I'm like you Cul, I like to believe in the best of people. And for that reason i'm gonna hold out on saying Fin's girl was creeping like a snake in the grass. But it's a careful, half-sheathed optimism when it comes to the fairer folk, so i'm not gonna rule it out altogether. I'm just gonna hope that Findog finds some closure no matter the situation, with or without the explanation he's looking for.

[4>0rings]

If I were a girl I'd want a guy like Fin. A regular fellow who cared deeply for me, and was devoted to my needs. There are so many hairballs out there. Fin is just meat & potatos.
:lmao Damn at least try to hide your homo feelings.

[Giuseppe]

Picc, guys are no better at lying and cheating. We'll fuck anything that moves. What women can't understand though with us it's just the act of breaking the nut. Then it's right back to The Three Stooges or the NBA for instance.

Girls aren't like that, they're at the polar opposite. Twixt the two positions is the killing ground of relationships.

So, if she is cheating, Fin is cooked. If she's only been getting poison poured in her ear by her "friends" he may still be able to triumph here.

[silverblk mystix]

As usual, you're probably right Cul. Its just with women you never know, i'll be damned if the devil didn't learn lying from them. They can be so convincing with an act just like the one fin's ex wife-to-be put on, that they even convince themselves its the gods honest truth.

Now, i'm not saying I know this, or I know that, about fin's relationship. But I know a little about women. And "I need to be single" or "I need to be alone, or the swinger's favorite, "I can't love you the way you need to be loved"....those have all been code words for finding somebody else, and not havin' the guts to tell you about it, for many a fella, many a time. And vice versa, if we're being honest as men.

I'm like you Cul, I like to believe in the best of people. And for that reason i'm gonna hold out on saying Fin's girl was creeping like a snake in the grass. But it's a careful, half-sheathed optimism when it comes to the fairer folk, so i'm not gonna rule it out altogether. I'm just gonna hope that Findog finds some closure no matter the situation, with or without the explanation he's looking for.


I pretty much agree with both you and Cul here...

except it wasn't like the girl actually PLANNED this...she wasn't putting on an act the whole time-just to pull the rug out from under Fin...

I believe she was and is who she is-plain and simple...she unwittingly let Fin in on her past-and in doing so-pretty much spelled out exactly who she had been in her past....how she had acted in relationships....how long she had stayed,etc...

Of course-she probably believed herself and also probably HOPED that it would be different with Fin...but in the end---she ended up just reverting back to her true nature...

I did not mean to imply that Fin was less than savvy for not seeing this...in a relationship...both parties may genuinely want and hope for the best...but in doing so...usually the person that is left behind...will discover that if he had payed a little closer attention...he/she would have seen the other person and their motives a little clearer....

but one never really knows until you have been hurt BY YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING OF LOVE.

[Giuseppe]

:lmao Damn at least try to hide your homo feelings.

We all have a feminine side, 4>. I just embrace mine with Katie-girl's lingerie collection.

[TheRealCB]

There are two ways to deal with it man,

1)Stay home,drink,smoke and overthing and overanalyse the situation..There were signs,you just never noticed them..You can try recognize them now that you know..

2)Screw it,and go play some ball.It has worked for me,basketball can cure you man.


Whatever route you follow,you just don't try to be with her again,it will only make things worse :toast

[Findog]

GL findog, and know that the explanation you wanted is never going to come out of her mouth. The more you try to get her to explain, the less you're going to like what she says. Take her first answer at face value, and determine for yourself what that means for you and how you move forward.

It sucks to think that you're probably right about this.


that bitch probably was cheating though

Of course because she was so evasive and vague about it, I've thought a lot about the possibility of infidelity, or some kind of emotional affair and she's leaving me in order to proceed with the physical stuff. I did a lot of googling on women and infidelity, and she didn't really fit the profile of a cheater based on her recent behavior. If her behavior had changed, it was very subtle.

[MiamiHeat]

so what movie is Findog referencing with this thread?

maybe ive seen it but i cant remember. i watch too many films

[Giuseppe]

I got a good "small" one for ya, Heat. "The Education of Charlie Banks." Stars the kid from this Facebook movie & John Ritter's kid. It's fine fare.

Have ya got anything of merit for me, Heat?

[Giuseppe]

It's terrific. The Eisberg kid plays it honestly throughout, straight up & down.

And you're right, Luva, the direction is superb. The Ritter kid fights are sudden, the reasons not of import, they're barely revealed, before the viciousness is upon us.

And the ending scene in the playground is astounding.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

It's a rare case when you find a woman that leaves a relationship without having her next already lined up to replace her ex. Take solace in the fact that you are not alone.
Motherfuckin cosigned sons. It's been a tradition of women for years to be seeing another man well before her marriage ends. Every divorce I've ever been around the woman had her next relationship all lined up.

[ElNono]

I like films that catch you off guard like that. Still don't even know why I watched it. The soundtrack captured the essence of the film, and the actors actually fit the roles and didn't sound like they were reading a script, which is hard to find with young actors these days.

I have a couple for you that you might like.

luva the film critic... who would have thought... :lol

Two thumbs up your ass :tu :tu

[midnightpulp]

Good coming of age film. Fred Durst showed some skill directing that one.

I haven't seen it, yet. But I have a hard time believing that the hack known as Fred Durst has any actual skill. I don't doubt the film is well "directed," however. Often, a talented cinematographer, along with a capable crew of set and art designers and a healthy budget, can make a filmmaker look better than he is. We're long past the "auteur" days of the French New Wave, Cassavetes, early Scorsese, and legitimate independent film, where a filmmaker's natural talent defied the limitations of budget and name talent. Give Durst 50k, he probably makes a movie that wouldn't get a passing grade in a High School film class.

Just look at how many musicians, actors, and celebrities suddenly become "directors," with no previous filmmaking experience.

[Giuseppe]

I like films that catch you off guard like that. Still don't even know why I watched it. The soundtrack captured the essence of the film, and the actors actually fit the roles and didn't sound like they were reading a script, which is hard to find with young actors these days.

I have a couple for you that you might like.

It was a weird find for me as well. I was going thru the guide on the tv one nite when I saw it, DVR'ed for the next day. The next day I bring it up, but, they'd substituted another film in it's place. So I missed it that time. I caught it again, DVR'd it and it showed. It was so good I watched it again with the old lady.

And you're absolutely right, Luva. The kids were so good, especially in that "bar" scene toward the beginning. It was uncomfortable watching them interact, but, that is how it would've been.

[MiamiHeat]

coming of age film?

zzzzzz. fuck no.

although it does sound like something Culburn would like to watch. a nice little coming of age film, late teenage boy actor....

Culburn must have gotten blue balls thinking of what could have been with DoK's meeting.

kn22vCnOglA

[midnightpulp]

With a budget of 5mil, you won't find many directors in today's field to put forth a better film. I probably shouldn't have mentioned Durst directed the film, because If I had knew he was at the helm beforehand I would not have bothered.

Relative to Blockbusters, 5 mil is a puny budget, but for a character driven piece, that's more than enough.

The guy who shot Paranormal Activity, one of the best Horror films of '07, did so on 11 grand. I realize that it was a one location movie with essentially only two characters, but impressive nonetheless.

[ShoogarBear]

Damn, Dog, that sucks. Feel for you, bro.

What you need to do is just go and find someone to have a good time with for a while. I know a chick in the Dallas area who's in the same boat you are; maybe you two can hook up:













http://www.interbasket.net/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/dirk-nowitzki-cristal-taylors.jpg

[Latarian Milton]

you should never get close to such errantic coquettes tbh.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

Findog I am very sorry about your situation man. I can relate to your situation of a broken heart in a way.

I was engaged to my fiance for 10 months and our wedding was supposed to be next Saturday October 30th. This last February, she tells me that she was seeing someone for the past few months behind my back and that she was in love with him. She said it with no remorse. She broke off the engagement and quickly moved on with her life while I was devastated. To make matters worse, she sent me an invitation via mail last month to her wedding which will be on the day our wedding was supposed to be.


I am still recovering to this day. It has been anything but easy. Having family and friends helps as does keeping busy. Keep your head up man.

[dirk4mvp]

a Dirk Nowitzki sighting

stop the fuckin presses, tbh. Did you bring RonMexico with you?

[Trill Clinton]

I was engaged to my fiance for 10 months and our wedding was supposed to be next Saturday October 30th. This last February, she tells me that she was seeing someone for the past few months behind my back and that she was in love with him. She said it with no remorse. She broke off the engagement and quickly moved on with her life while I was devastated. To make matters worse, she sent me an invitation via mail last month to her wedding which will be on the day our wedding was supposed to be.


I am still recovering to this day. It has been anything but easy. Having family and friends helps as does keeping busy. Keep your head up man.

The nerve of that bitch...no offense.

[Latarian Milton]

Findog I am very sorry about your situation man. I can relate to your situation of a broken heart in a way.

I was engaged to my fiance for 10 months and our wedding was supposed to be next Saturday October 30th. This last February, she tells me that she was seeing someone for the past few months behind my back and that she was in love with him. She said it with no remorse. She broke off the engagement and quickly moved on with her life while I was devastated. To make matters worse, she sent me an invitation via mail last month to her wedding which will be on the day our wedding was supposed to be.


I am still recovering to this day. It has been anything but easy. Having family and friends helps as does keeping busy. Keep your head up man.

you should have never bonded your heart to such a variable thing like woman tbh.

[MiamiHeat]

come on

Dirk Nowitzki's post is a lie. that's bullshit. I refuse to believe a woman would do that, even set the wedding for the same day? lawl.

troll

[dirk4mvp]

come on

Dirk Nowitzki's post is a lie. that's bullshit. I refuse to believe a woman would do that, even set the wedding for the same day? lawl.

troll

don't question such a great poster, homo.

[Trill Clinton]

i'd have mailed it back with a note to go fuck herself

I would show up at the wedding with my new bitch just to let her know she aint shit. Then e-mail her nudes to all of her family and friends from an anonymous address.

[Latarian Milton]

the fact is most females are capricious and are never serious in love with males. as a man, what you ought to do is fuck them and leave them the fuck alone, or just simply leave them the fuck alone without giving them a fuck if you are celibate like me.

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

Findog I am very sorry about your situation man. I can relate to your situation of a broken heart in a way.

I was engaged to my fiance for 10 months and our wedding was supposed to be next Saturday October 30th. This last February, she tells me that she was seeing someone for the past few months behind my back and that she was in love with him. She said it with no remorse. She broke off the engagement and quickly moved on with her life while I was devastated. To make matters worse, she sent me an invitation via mail last month to her wedding which will be on the day our wedding was supposed to be.


I am still recovering to this day. It has been anything but easy. Having family and friends helps as does keeping busy. Keep your head up man.

holy shit brah, where the hell have you been? :wow

(I'm sure you won't even read this til like 5 months from now)

[Latarian Milton]

come on

Dirk Nowitzki's post is a lie. that's bullshit. I refuse to believe a woman would do that, even set the wedding for the same day? lawl.

troll

dirk should be feeling good & somewhat lucky that he jilted that hippo-faced bitch tbh.

[dirk4mvp]

dirk should be feeling good & somewhat lucky that he jilted that hippo-faced bitch tbh.

:lmao :lmao

hippo face > pickle breath

[Dirk Nowitzki]

holy shit brah, where the hell have you been? :wow

(I'm sure you won't even read this til like 5 months from now)

Outside of that other situation, I have been busy with life. Good to see you too fuego.

[Giuseppe]

Welcome, Dirk.

O & Forever!

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

Outside of that other situation, I have been busy with life. Good to see you too fuego.

Good luck with that man, hopefully a new girl rolls your way soon.

Hope to see you around some during the NBA season. Nobody makes Mav gameday threads quite like you do :lol

[Giuseppe]

The O & Forever crew.

tee, hee.

[Giuseppe]

You're all talk and a badge.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

u ever get that bipolar/depression/suicidal shit worked out? hope so

That was a whole nother situation but yes I did get it worked out. I was never suicidal though not even for what took place over the last several months.

[DeadlyDynasty]

You're all talk and a badge.

http://img.listal.com/image/1184625/500full.jpg

[DeadlyDynasty]

That was a whole nother situation but yes I did get it worked out. I was never suicidal though not even for what took place over the last several months.

meds, therapy, both?

[Giuseppe]

http://img.listal.com/image/1184625/500full.jpg

Yep, great f'in line.

[Giuseppe]

I was never suicidal though not even for what took place over the last several months.

Perhaps you should reconsider.

tee, hee.

[Dirk Nowitzki]

meds, therapy, both?

Both helped but having a support system (family, friends etc) really got me through then and now.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Both helped but having a support system (family, friends etc) really got me through then and now.

True. Having friends that won't allow you to wallow in self-pity is a plus too. As for the meds, are you still on them or was it just a short term fix?

I personally have had a couple rd's with SSRI's and I'm wholly against them for the most part. I prefer Benzos (like Klonopin), but only as a short term solution.

[Sisk]

Findog I am very sorry about your situation man. I can relate to your situation of a broken heart in a way.

I was engaged to my fiance for 10 months and our wedding was supposed to be next Saturday October 30th. This last February, she tells me that she was seeing someone for the past few months behind my back and that she was in love with him. She said it with no remorse. She broke off the engagement and quickly moved on with her life while I was devastated. To make matters worse, she sent me an invitation via mail last month to her wedding which will be on the day our wedding was supposed to be.


I am still recovering to this day. It has been anything but easy. Having family and friends helps as does keeping busy. Keep your head up man.

:(

That's totally fucked. Sorry man.

[Sisk]

I prefer Benzos (like Klonopin), but only as a short term solution.

To each his own.. but I took one Klonopin before game 4 of the '07 finals and never took one again. Just got me really tired more than anything.

[DeadlyDynasty]

To each his own.. but I took one Klonopin before game 4 of the '07 finals and never took one again. Just got me really tired more than anything.

I used to love it (don't really take them anymore outside of recreational use)...it was the perfect benzo for me. Valium, Ativan, and the others made me too drowsy. I could take one 0.5 Klonopin and go through my day anxiety-free w/o the drowsiness.

[Sisk]

I forgot to mention I passed out during the damn game. In hindsight I shouldn't have given up on it so quick and should've had half the pill like you said and try that out.. Oh well

[4>0rings]

Findog I am very sorry about your situation man. I can relate to your situation of a broken heart in a way.

I was engaged to my fiance for 10 months and our wedding was supposed to be next Saturday October 30th. This last February, she tells me that she was seeing someone for the past few months behind my back and that she was in love with him. She said it with no remorse. She broke off the engagement and quickly moved on with her life while I was devastated. To make matters worse, she sent me an invitation via mail last month to her wedding which will be on the day our wedding was supposed to be.


I am still recovering to this day. It has been anything but easy. Having family and friends helps as does keeping busy. Keep your head up man.Fuck that you need to go shoot her and her husband... now.

[Jheum Jhang]

We began talking marriage about 3-4 months into the relationship. Level of passion was pretty even; some relationships are in trouble long-term if one person is way more into the other person and that is not recipocrated.

Her behavior had not changed recently, there was no pulling away. There was nothing to indicate that the relationship was in trouble. She told me repeatedly throughout the course of the rel'ship that it was the best rel'ship she had ever been in, I was everything she ever wanted in another man, she sat her parents down and told them she wanted to marry me and explained to them how I was different from all the other guys she'd been with, and her parents wanted to meet my parents for dinner. She was raised by her mom and stepfather, and I became the first guy she ever dated that she introduced to her biological father, who she has a very arms-length relationship with.

I've got an email from her two weeks before she broke it off where she says she had a great time with me over the weekend (it was pretty mundane by our standards) and I am an amazing man. I've got another email three days before where says "I was just thinking about you. Love u :)" etc. Two weeks before the breakup she tells me that one of her friends from her wild partying days that had met me told her that she had seen some of the losers she used to date, she was lucky to have me, and she told me that she agreed. She was not behaving like somebody who had mentally checked out and was looking for the exits.

Last Saturday morning she texts me and asks to come over. We had a wedding for a friend of hers to go to that night and I texted her back since it was 10 am in the morning and pointed out that we would have several hours to kill and wanted to know how she wanted to fill that time. She texts back that she'll be over soon and then we can talk. That got my radar up. I called her four times and she refuses to answer the phone.

She comes over, sits down on the couch and the first thing she says is that she can't love me the way she thinks I need to be loved and want to be loved. I tell her that I've always felt loved by her and I've never felt like I wasn't getting what I wanted or needed from her. She says she woke up this week with a funny feeling that something didn't feel quite right and I tell her that it sounds like jitters and cold feet, those are normal feelings, the thought of marriage is scary to me as well at times, and it doesn't necessarily mean our relationship is doomed.

She says she's never been in a relationship longer than a year, that this is what she does, she can't be in a relationship right now, she needs to be single. I point out that she has told me repeatedly that before she met me, she was lonely and single, and after we became a couple, she felt incredibly happy and loved. I asked her what had changed and if she still loved me. She said she still loves me, I'm everything she ever wanted in a man, but she can't get married, she can't be in a relationship, she has to be alone. She tells me she doesn't want to waste any more of my time, she doesn't want me to go to weddings I don't have to go to and don't want to go. (By way of background, we had four weddings for friends of hers this fall. We'd already been to one, Saturday was supposed to be the second, and I had never expressed resentment over having to go to the weddings. I told her that I loved just being with her and I didn't care what we were doing). The whole thing lasted about 15 minutes and then she says she can't stay any longer and she has to leave. That was last Saturday. We've both maintained radio silence since then.

I don't know if I should have done this or not, but there will be a bouquet of Gerber daises (her favorite) arriving at her apartment tomorrow with the message "I love you. I miss you. My heart aches for you. You're my Rushmore." When I woke up today I was overcome with feelings of powerlessness and helplessness, along with missing her terribly. I'm not going to call, text or email her, that's all I'm going to do for now. I figure if I have any shot at getting her back, I need to give her some space to figure out what she really wants and if she actually misses me. If I bombard her with texts, emails and calls, she'll just retreat even further. Plus I'm a real mess right now and need to gather myself before I interact with her at all.

So, as to the accusations of cheating, when you're in a relationship with the woman that you think you're going to marry, and everything seems to be going great, and then you get blindsided with a breakup that does not include a satisfactory explanation, yeah, your mind races and you consider every possible angle, including cheating. I can't rule it out. It's inconsistent with the person I've known her to be. And if that turned out to be the case, then that would be even more painful than this thing already is, and I'd have to walk away, since how can I expect her to be faithful in a marriage when she can't be faithful at this point of our rel'ship? I suspect cold feet and jitters (we hadn't set a date but we both kinda assumed anywhere from late 2011 to early 2013), but who knows? Nothing about what she did makes any sense.

Probably the only reason I haven't completely turned into a basketcase is that a small part of me harbors hope that we can reconcile, but I'm trying to stay grounded and prepare for the worst-case scenario that she won't come around.

Hi, you like Spurs?

[Latarian Milton]

a woman is capricious like London's weather, both like a baby's face. she said she felt happy and loved when he was with you but insisted she couldn't be married to you. She really cannot get married to you because you are fated to be celibate, findog, and probably so is she.

maybe you can still love each other but that's definitely not the style of life God wants you guys to live. God make you a celibate and it would only bring you griefs and frustrations if you strive against your fate.

[ginobili's bald spot]

Findog I am very sorry about your situation man. I can relate to your situation of a broken heart in a way.

I was engaged to my fiance for 10 months and our wedding was supposed to be next Saturday October 30th. This last February, she tells me that she was seeing someone for the past few months behind my back and that she was in love with him. She said it with no remorse. She broke off the engagement and quickly moved on with her life while I was devastated. To make matters worse, she sent me an invitation via mail last month to her wedding which will be on the day our wedding was supposed to be.


I don't normally condone murder but this bitch needs to die imo

[Koolaid_Man]

DIciKDEA_5U&ob


:lol he a molester but Kell's that's my Nigga right there...Bump his shit all the time...

here's another one for mid...:lol

XLnNUK9vVS0&ob

[ploto]

She says she's never been in a relationship longer than a year, that this is what she does.

I know you feel like you got no explanation, but this is it.

I knew a guy- just a friend of a friend- but every relationship he had lasted a year. He would date the girl for a year and everything would seem great. Then, right at that mark, when I suspect it started getting more serious, he wanted it over. He never had the guts just to break up with the girl because he did not want to be the one who was seen as ending it. Instead, he would start treating the girl badly. Every time, she ended up breaking up with him, and he was off the hook both for the relationship and for the responsibility of ending it. This happened time and time again. It was what he did. One he was even engaged to.

[weebo]

Holy J almighty. Some of you guys sound like a bunch of ailing pussies.
WAH WAH WAH... My girl left me.
WAH WAH WAH... I'm still hurting.
WAH WAH WAH... I haven't recovered.

:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry:c ry:cry

What the hell happen to some of you? You're men (koriwhat?). GROW a fucking PAIR.

Findog, homie, that ho of yours is gone and she ain't coming back. Like Rick Patino once said about the "Legend"...he ain't walking through that door. Well, your bitch ain't walking through that door for you. So, get the fuck over it and get yourself a new piece. Now you know better.

And for the rest of you pussies: never fall hard for a chic but if you so do...be sure to build up a good bullpen just for times like these.

Peace.

[weebo]

What a swole fellow you are.

If it ain't the new age sensitive "man" dropping by to say hello.

Why don't you go start some bullshit thread like how your eyeliner doesn't go with your nutsack like you're prone to do.

[picc84]

i'd have mailed it back with a note to go fuck herself

I'd have mailed it back with anthrax.

[Findog]

We haven't had any contact in the two weeks since it happened. I haven't called, texted, emailed, im'd her, shown up at her apt or office.

As far as no contact after a breakup goes, I read that you can either just not contact them without any explanation, or you can tell them that you won't be contacting them and leave it up to them. So, with that in mind, I mailed her a letter that she should have gotten yesterday. I basically just said that if she feels she's better off apart than together, then I respect that, but that some of the things she said to justify it were hurtful and unnecessary. And despite that, I still love her and am open to reconciliation if she is willing to do couples counseling, but I can't wait around forever for her. And if she's not willing to do that, then we can't remain friends and we can't remain in contact.

[Trainwreck2100]

We haven't had any contact in the two weeks since it happened. I haven't called, texted, emailed, im'd her, shown up at her apt or office.

As far as no contact after a breakup goes, I read that you can either just not contact them without any explanation, or you can tell them that you won't be contacting them and leave it up to them. So, with that in mind, I mailed her a letter that she should have gotten yesterday. I basically just said that if she feels she's better off apart than together, then I respect that, but that some of the things she said to justify it were hurtful and unnecessary. And despite that, I still love her and am open to reconciliation if she is willing to do couples counseling, but I can't wait around forever for her. And if she's not willing to do that, then we can't remain friends and we can't remain in contact.

don't be such a faggot

[Gator Chomp!]

We haven't had any contact in the two weeks since it happened. I haven't called, texted, emailed, im'd her, shown up at her apt or office.

As far as no contact after a breakup goes, I read that you can either just not contact them without any explanation, or you can tell them that you won't be contacting them and leave it up to them. So, with that in mind, I mailed her a letter that she should have gotten yesterday. I basically just said that if she feels she's better off apart than together, then I respect that, but that some of the things she said to justify it were hurtful and unnecessary. And despite that, I still love her and am open to reconciliation if she is willing to do couples counseling, but I can't wait around forever for her. And if she's not willing to do that, then we can't remain friends and we can't remain in contact.

yeah..now you just look like a total loser. the fact that she hadn't contacted you in 2 weeks meant that she dumped you and already had someone else, and didn't ever intend to contact you back. now you're just "that" guy.

[Trainwreck2100]

also she was probably laughing her ass off as she read the letter

[IronMexican]

Dirk Nowitski(poster) story makes me want to never take a girl serious.

[Trainwreck2100]

Dirk Nowitski(poster) story makes me want to never take a girl serious.


the fact that it was on the same date means she probably used the exact same reservations, as they made for his wedding. If i was him i would have staked my claim on those places

[monosylab1k]

We haven't had any contact in the two weeks since it happened. I haven't called, texted, emailed, im'd her, shown up at her apt or office.

As far as no contact after a breakup goes, I read that you can either just not contact them without any explanation, or you can tell them that you won't be contacting them and leave it up to them. So, with that in mind, I mailed her a letter that she should have gotten yesterday. I basically just said that if she feels she's better off apart than together, then I respect that, but that some of the things she said to justify it were hurtful and unnecessary. And despite that, I still love her and am open to reconciliation if she is willing to do couples counseling, but I can't wait around forever for her. And if she's not willing to do that, then we can't remain friends and we can't remain in contact.

that sucks man. I haven't really said anything about your situation yet, but I feel terrible for you.

tbh I think the best thing to do is pretend she never existed. In your mind that will never happen, but as far as what you do in your everyday life, live it like you never met her. I went through something somewhat similar, though we never were at the point of getting engaged. It's going to kick your ass every single day for at least 6 months. But imo the best thing to do is just say "fuck it", accept it as a life experience, and move on with your life like she was never a part of it. Eventually it will get better.

tbh I'd take back the "open to reconciliation" part. If someone is capable of hurting you that badly, she doesn't deserve any part of your life, even if she regrets it later. Don't EVER take her back. I know right now in the moment you don't agree with me, but it's the best thing.

[SomeCallMeTim]

yeah..now you just look like a total loser. the fact that she hadn't contacted you in 2 weeks meant that she dumped you and already had someone else, and didn't ever intend to contact you back. now you're just "that" guy.

So?

I see post after post in this thread concerned with how Findog "looks" if he does anything other than kick this girl to the curb.

Why are so many people concerned with how they "look"? What does he really lose by making himself clear to someone whom he obviously cares for?

Even if the odds are small that a reconciliation is possible, only a fool would say they are zero. And I will never fault a guy for trying in good faith to keep something good together. Love requires risk. No risk, no love. Though I take it from quite a few responses in this thread that many guys here are not interested in risk nor love.

[Findog]

that sucks man. I haven't really said anything about your situation yet, but I feel terrible for you.

tbh I think the best thing to do is pretend she never existed. In your mind that will never happen, but as far as what you do in your everyday life, live it like you never met her. I went through something somewhat similar, though we never were at the point of getting engaged. It's going to kick your ass every single day for at least 6 months. But imo the best thing to do is just say "fuck it", accept it as a life experience, and move on with your life like she was never a part of it. Eventually it will get better.

tbh I'd take back the "open to reconciliation" part. If someone is capable of hurting you that badly, she doesn't deserve any part of your life, even if she regrets it later. Don't EVER take her back. I know right now in the moment you don't agree with me, but it's the best thing.

I can't take her back like this didn't happen. I don't trust her right now to not do it again. That's why I would insist on couples counseling. In the meantime, I have nothing to do but look forward and not worry about what she's doing.

[monosylab1k]

tbh it looks like I have another password to change.

[monosylab1k]

I can't take her back like this didn't happen. I don't trust her right now to not do it again. That's why I would insist on couples counseling. In the meantime, I have nothing to do but look forward and not worry about what she's doing.

You can't take her back under any circumstances, man. But it's good that you're trying to move past it all.

[Halberto]

Instead of giving you a lecture about how you fucked up like everyone else is, I want to tell you one thing: women hate vulnerability and are very insecure themselves. Since I first got to college I've approached every woman this way and 90% of the time I used it for my benefit. If you still want her back, find someone new and don't reach out to her. She'll eventually find out through friends, facebook or whatever. She'll get curious to see who the rebound is and once she does it'll plant a seed that will eventually fuck with her head. It doesn't matter how less attractive the new one is, all that matters is that you look happier without her and it will drive her insane. It's stupid, but women are children so you need to act like one sometimes.

[Findog]

You can't take her back under any circumstances, man. But it's good that you're trying to move past it all.

I have a car again. Do you have a regular pickup time at UT-D?

[Findog]

Instead of giving you a lecture about how you fucked up like everyone else is, I want to tell you one thing: women hate vulnerability and are very insecure themselves. Since I first got to college I've approached every woman this way and 90% of the time I used it for my benefit. If you still want her back, find someone new and don't reach out to her. She'll eventually find out through friends, facebook or whatever. She'll get curious to see who the rebound is and once she does it'll plant a seed that will eventually fuck with her head. It doesn't matter how less attractive the new one is, all that matters is that you look happier without her and it will drive her insane. It's stupid, but women are children so you need to act like one sometimes.

I took her off my facebook, because I don't need to be looking at her profile and I don't want her to know what I'm up to. And other than the letter, I haven't called, texted, emailed, whatever.

The idea for the letter came from here:

http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/relationships/no-contact-rule-46556.html

I chose Option 1.

[monosylab1k]

I have a car again. Do you have a regular pickup time at UT-D?

I'm not regular, but I like to go Thursdays around 7-ish. Not sure if I can go this week, but I do get out there at least a couple times every month. Check your PM's in a few minutes

[Mono's understudy]

I agree with mono

[monosylab1k]

I agree with mono

crofl I know who you are

[koriwhat]

couples counseling? a letter in the mail? just drop it man and move on.

shit sucks... life's a bitch... move on to the next chick.

[Phillip]

tbh make sure you get everything you can off your chest first about the whole situation. i think your letter was a good idea, especially letting her know that you felt that she may have handled it in an uncool manner, and if you have anything else to say, try doing so, but in a dignified manner (beating the shit out of her, cussing her out, or something rash like that doesnt count, but im sure you are smart enough not to do something like that. i said it in the case i overestimated you and you end up being a fucking dumbass like koriwhat or someone like that), so that you have as few regrets about it as possible down the road when you look back. the "i wish i had..." thoughts could end up kicking your ass, so make sure you think with a clear state of mind about anything that you know about yourself that may bite you in the ass in the future that you may be able to handle right now.

[Phillip]

couples counseling? a letter in the mail? just drop it man and move on.

shit sucks... life's a bitch... move on to the next chick. or in my case, the next dude!

lol MAV FAG!!!!

fify

needed more fag

[Phillip]

So?

I see post after post in this thread concerned with how Findog "looks" if he does anything other than kick this girl to the curb.

Why are so many people concerned with how they "look"? What does he really lose by making himself clear to someone whom he obviously cares for?

Even if the odds are small that a reconciliation is possible, only a fool would say they are zero. And I will never fault a guy for trying in good faith to keep something good together. Love requires risk. No risk, no love. Though I take it from quite a few responses in this thread that many guys here are not interested in risk nor love.

I agree with this. Even if it doesnt end up working out, at least down the road he can look back, knowing he tried his best to make it work, and can live better with himself, instead of in regret.

[Leetonidas]

I agree with mono

There he is :lol

[monosylab1k]

so someone who can pull this kind of bullshit out of the blue deserves a second chance? :lmao

tbh Findog if you ever get back with this chick, you are the fool here. but I know ur smarter than that.

[Mack BrownTurdFagGit]

I agree with this. Even if it doesnt end up working out, at least down the road he can look back, knowing he tried his best to make it work, and can live better with himself, instead of in regret.

i don't know what it is but i feel you dumped smegma on me when I invited you over to have a 3some with me and LaMarcus Bryant and you declined asshole:madrun

yeah yeah America/basement/calf tats/fag! per the usual

[monosylab1k]

If this was just some BF/GF shit, then yeah maybe reconciliation is okay. But she agreed to marry him, she made a commitment to him, and then out of the blue pulls this crap? Fuck her. If she ever comes back, it's only cuz she thinks she has Findog by the balls and can control everything.

[Phillip]

so someone who can pull this kind of bullshit out of the blue deserves a second chance? :lmao

tbh Findog if you ever get back with this chick, you are the fool here. but I know ur smarter than that.

not saying she deserves it, or that he should get back with her. just saying he should at least do what he can to say he tried his best to make it work, so he has no regrets about it on his own end. some people wont let those kinds of thoughts turn into regrets for themselves, some will. everyone is different. findog may be one of those who does, especially judging by the fact that he sent the letter in the first place. if he didnt send it, obviously he wouldnt be worried in the least bit about such thoughts bugging him down the road.

[SomeCallMeTim]

so someone who can pull this kind of bullshit out of the blue deserves a second chance? :lmao

tbh Findog if you ever get back with this chick, you are the fool here. but I know ur smarter than that.

"Deserve's got nothing to do with it."

Love doesn't take into account a wrong suffered. Maybe that makes a person a "fool" and I do believe in boundaries, including a "point of no return" -- but I don't think that's been crossed here. YMMV.

And -- believe it or not -- people do make mistakes, learn from them, and change. It's called growing up, maturing, taking responsibility, etc. Not everyone does it. Some do.

Quite a few of us wouldn't even exist were every relationship based on the black-and-white rules you seem to favor.

[BUMP]

It's pretty much been said over 100 times in here, but I feel there's no way you can go back to that and the best is to forget about it completely. Yeah it was shameful at first, but fuck it we've all had super embarrassing moments and the sooner you forget about it the sooner you move on. It's already been 2 weeks, so it's pretty much over.

[Leetonidas]

After reading through this...it's interesting to see how everyone puts their differences aside when someone needs some serious advice (well, not everyone, I saw plenty "stop being a faggot" posts :lol ). I will just go ahead by saying that it sucks, I feel for you, we've all been in a similar situation and time is the only thing that will make it better. You just have to live your life. Once you start enjoying things again and she is out of your life long enough, you won't even remember what she did to make it better. Just keep yer head up. :tu

[Phillip]

After reading through this...it's interesting to see how everyone puts their differences aside when someone needs some serious advice (well, not everyone, I saw plenty "stop being a faggot" posts :lol ). I will just go ahead by saying that it sucks, I feel for you, we've all been in a similar situation and time is the only thing that will make it better. You just have to live your life. Once you start enjoying things again and she is out of your life long enough, you won't even remember what she did to make it better. Just keep yer head up. :tu

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faggot

[Leetonidas]

Knew that shit was coming. :lmao

[koriwhat]

fify

needed more fag

shit... if you want me to call you a fag i can, it's easy to do.

btw, thinking it was a good idea for him to send love letters to a chick who dumped his ass and is most likely fuckin' some other dude already and has been. hahaha!

what are you 12? that's not a good idea at all.

[Jose Canseco]

so someone who can pull this kind of bullshit out of the blue deserves a second chance? :lmao

tbh Findog if you ever get back with this chick, you are the fool here. but I know ur smarter than that.

+1 just like Sammie's dumbass staying with Ronnie

[Phillip]

shit... if you want me to call you a fag i can, it's easy to do.

btw, thinking it was a good idea for him to send love letters to a chick who dumped his ass and is most likely fuckin' some other dude already and has been. hahaha!

what are you 12? that's not a good idea at all.

love letters are one thing. but getting personal feelings off his chest and trying his best to do all he can in his power to make it work, is a completely different ballpark, you fucking dumbass.

[koriwhat]

love letters are one thing. but getting personal feelings off his chest and trying his best to do all he can in his power to make it work, is a completely different ballpark, you fucking dumbass.

yeah, i'm the dumbass who wants fin to "make it work" with a chick who straight up clowned his ass from the get go and took off when the time was right. you're looking more and more like a pussy by the day.

[JoeTait75]

If Fin wants to "make it work" he'll do everything he can to ignore this chick. Writing her, calling her, acknowledging her in any way is completely counter-productive. I know this from hard experience.

[HarlemHeat37]

While I agree with the point that "looking stupid" shouldn't matter here and that love does require risk, I don't agree with sending the letter..I actually did something similar when I was 16, and it didn't work at all, and I felt like a complete bitch..ever since that, I've hardened a lot in my relationships with females..

Luckily, I learned this at a young age..that failed relationship got me arrested and facing charges..I even became friends with her a few years later, but I learned to give up and accept when the relationship is over..I have learned the signs and when to get out..a lot of these girls turn out to be gaping, even though we're scared to look at the depth of the hole, past the puddles..

Another important point is that even if you guys do get back together, there's a good chance that things will never be the same..you'll always wonder why she left you, and she probably won't want to talk about it, which in itself, will cause fights..you'll always wonder whether another guy was involved..it'll never leave your head IMO, even if you think it might..you would have to be a really, really mature man to forget it..

Sometimes, you really just have to accept that something is over, it's essential..

[Jose Canseco]

If Fin wants to "make it work" he'll do everything he can to ignore this chick. Writing her, calling her, acknowledging her in any way is completely counter-productive. I know this from hard experience.

Each situation is different. Ignoring her can just be just as counter-productive even if she still cares. Because different people respond differently to something like that. One girl might start missing a guy who is ignoring her. With another girl, ignoring her might be the perfect thing for her to get him out of her head and make it easier for her to move on.

All depends on her. Overdose almost always is a bad thing. But doing little things to remind her you're thinking of her, as long as it's not over the top or too much, isn't always a bad thing.

[JoeTait75]

Each situation is different. Ignoring her can just be just as counter-productive even if she still cares. Because different people respond differently to something like that. One girl might start missing a guy who is ignoring her. With another girl, ignoring her might be the perfect thing for her to get him out of her head and make it easier for her to move on.

All depends on her. Overdose almost always is a bad thing. But doing little things to remind her you're thinking of her, as long as it's not over the top or too much, isn't always a bad thing.

I don't necessarily disagree with this. But it's a really, really fine line. One thing I believe most women have in common is that they are very uncomfortable with anything they see as weakness and vulnerability in men. They might say they want men to show emotion and express their feelings, but for the most part that's bullshit.

[Killakobe81]

While I agree with the point that "looking stupid" shouldn't matter here and that love does require risk, I don't agree with sending the letter..I actually did something similar when I was 16, and it didn't work at all, and I felt like a complete bitch..ever since that, I've hardened a lot in my relationships with females..

Luckily, I learned this at a young age..that failed relationship got me arrested and facing charges..I even became friends with her a few years later, but I learned to give up and accept when the relationship is over..I have learned the signs and when to get out..a lot of these girls turn out to be gaping, even though we're scared to look at the depth of the hole, past the puddles..

Another important point is that even if you guys do get back together, there's a good chance that things will never be the same..you'll always wonder why she left you, and she probably won't want to talk about it, which in itself, will cause fights..you'll always wonder whether another guy was involved..it'll never leave your head IMO, even if you think it might..you would have to be a really, really mature man to forget it..

Sometimes, you really just have to accept that something is over, it's essential..

I only have had one similar experience, with my HS girl. I stayed faithful (for the most part in college) when I got out I realized i needed a break, she granted it. And she waited around for me, but it was never the same after. In fact, near the end she wanted a "break" ..so we started to see other people. We were not engaged at the time, but had started to talk about it. She told me she never wanted to have kids (deal breaker for me) but the truth was she had feelings for another guy, didnt want to cheat and didnt have the heart to tell me the truth. Now, at the time we had a place together in Northridge and were moving to Granda hills when it finally ended (thank God i didnt sign the lease for that TownHouse).
After a few months, (like many said on here) once i started dating, she broke things off with her new guy and tried to get me back. We went on a few "dates" and fell back in to a intimate relationship for a while ...but she wanted a second chance (which I was not completely opposed to because I still had love for her) but she insisted that for it to work, we had to become exclusive again which I refused.

I felt we had both realized something was not right even though we loved each other. And that is why we both stopped things at different times BEFORE we got engaged. She was hurt because she had finally figured things out and what she wanted ...but it was too late i had figured things out too I still lover but I was ready to move on.

The point of me sharing is:
1. yes it hurts to have someone you care for cut things off especially if they found someone else.
2. Because she broke it off and I ultimately resisted complete reconciliation, I found my wife ... so there maybe something better out there.
3. She just recently got married and has a son. No we are not "friends" but we interact on Facebook once in a while. She seems happy, good for her.
4. even though i spent part of the best years of my life in that relationship and we did not get married ...i have no regrets. We went to Hawaii, Vegas and had some fun times ..it was life experiences that helped shape me as man.

Don't live with regrets. If you want to still give it a go, do so. If not, chalk it up to a life experience, that will help you with your next relationship. But it doesnt have to make you cold but be cautious. Don't punish the next chick because of what this one did. Many young men do that, punish great women for anothers misdeeds and lose the good ones that follow (women sometimes do the same but they are more romantic and hopeful) and in the end finally settle for something less when they are able to let go.

Good luck man, love sucks sometimes ...but it's worth it.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I took her off my facebook, because I don't need to be looking at her profile and I don't want her to know what I'm up to. And other than the letter, I haven't called, texted, emailed, whatever.

The idea for the letter came from here:

http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/relationships/no-contact-rule-46556.html

I chose Option 1.

Very smart, fb is almost unavoidable these days. I was madly in love w/ my ex (and still am to a certain extent), but I never "un-friended" her on facebook. Last weekend I saw her facebook page and she's engaged to some other guy now. I feel destroyed and haven't been myself since. I'm honestly considering therapy now. As others have said, just go on with your life like she never existed...it's a near-impossible task, but dwelling on the past will only create a sense of false-hope and inevitable crippling depression.

[Findog]

Very smart, fb is almost unavoidable these days. I was madly in love w/ my ex (and still am to a certain extent), but I never "un-friended" her on facebook. Last weekend I saw her facebook page and she's engaged to some other guy now. I feel destroyed and haven't been myself since. I'm honestly considering therapy now. As others have said, just go on with your life like she never existed...it's a near-impossible task, but dwelling on the past will only create a sense of false-hope and inevitable crippling depression.

She's still friends with my parents and one of my friends. I might ask them to delete her too. I'm staying off facebook for the time being, I don't need the temptation to look at her now limited profile.

[DeadlyDynasty]

She's still friends with my parents and one of my friends. I might ask them to delete her too. I'm staying off facebook for the time being, I don't need the temptation to look at her now limited profile.

Your family will do it w/o asking why. If he/she is a true friend, i'm sure they'd do it in a heartbeat if you asked. Just avoid contact altogether. It takes time bro, especially if you're attached. Sonya (my ex) and I officially broke up in March, and I didn't really start to get over it till August (when I moved). What made it impossible was the fact that I was a City of Pittsburgh paramedic and we would take most of our patients to UPMC Presby Hospital, where she was a nurse in the ER. It was indescribable how much it hurt running into her time and time again, which is the sole reason I uprooted my life there and moved back down to Miami (that, and the weather). Still, I never deleted her from FB, and when I saw her pics and "engaged" status just last week I became claustrophobic and all those "what if" thoughts came rushing back. I feel so fucking stupid cause this hurts like hell.

Please bro, no more letters, emails, drunk-dials, texts, facebook, ANYTHING. If you both like to go to the same starbucks or movie theatre or whatever, find new ones. Turn the page, or else the pain stays.

[Giuseppe]

Nothing is more sickly sweet than heart break & ache. And for the guy it twinges in the sexual longings, almost to a medicinal level, driving one near mad with derision, desire & torment.

Poor Fin.

[HeatBurn305]

Kathy-girl tried to separate from 'ol Hubby, and I gave her the chloroform rag from behind;:::::then *POOF* I realized my pecker wasn't up to par like it used to be.

tee, hee

[midnightpulp]

Kathy-girl tried to separate from 'ol Hubby, and I gave her the chloroform rag from behind;:::::then *POOF* I realized my pecker wasn't up to par like it used to be.

tee, hee

:lol

[Giuseppe]

Oh, we've had some knock down dragouts in 40 years of love & hate. She's never understood the need for me to nut at the signing of the treaties.

tee, hee.

[midnightpulp]

Kathy-girl tried to separate from 'ol Hubby, and I gave her the chloroform rag from behind;:::::then *POOF* I realized my pecker wasn't up to par like it used to be.

tee, hee

http://oi52.tinypic.com/30ikhs9.jpg

[Giuseppe]

^ I wonder if she has panties on under there?

tee, hee.

[midnightpulp]

^ I wonder if she has panties on under there?

tee, hee.

It's your drawing.

Does she?

[Giuseppe]

Of course not.

[ploto]

Even though i spent part of the best years of my life in that relationship and we did not get married ...i have no regrets. We went to Hawaii, Vegas and had some fun times ..it was life experience that helped shape me as man.

Don't punish the next chick because of what this one did.

Two great comments.

First, do not act like it never happened. It did happen and it had an impact on who you are. Learn from it and remember it.

Secondly, do not make other people pay for what she did, including yourself.

[midnightpulp]

^ I wonder if she has panties on under there?

tee, hee.

Shaved? Or au natch?

[Giuseppe]

Just the tiniest of triangles at the top of the mons veneris.

[The Gemini Method]

What's left to be said that hasn't already been said? Most of us have been through a situation like this and it varies in how one should deal with it. There are some great pieces of advice and the most important one I have seen towards the end is the, 'don't treat the next chick like the previous one.' That is very important and it is easier to do when you're prepared to move on from the last one. Whoa, mons veneris used in a sports forum--that's why this site owns.

[La Mont]

She's still friends with my parents and one of my friends. I might ask them to delete her too. I'm staying off facebook for the time being, I don't need the temptation to look at her now limited profile.

there's no actual "friendship" in the virtual world, my friend. you can be friend with the mods of spurstalk but you may still get banned only if you manage to piss off someone of them.

RIP dok and m>s.

[Killakobe81]

Two great comments.

First, do not act like it never happened. It did happen and it had an impact on who you are. Learn from it and remember it.

Secondly, do not make other people pay for what she did, including yourself.

an even better summary ..short but sweet. :toast

[Findog]

I feel better knowing I'm not Brent Barry :downspin:

[Giuseppe]

Ugh, I thought it was a reconciliation announcement.

[Findog]

Ugh, I thought it was a reconciliation announcement.

Nope. I haven't heard from her. I'm getting on with my life. Can't worry about that which I don't control.

[YoungB]

I don't get the Brent Barry reference?

[024]

I don't get the Brent Barry reference?
oh man, you're missing out on the spurs forum.

[MavDynasty]

Good to see you back Fin, where have you been?

[TinTin]

Very smart, fb is almost unavoidable these days. I was madly in love w/ my ex (and still am to a certain extent), but I never "un-friended" her on facebook. Last weekend I saw her facebook page and she's engaged to some other guy now. I feel destroyed and haven't been myself since. I'm honestly considering therapy now. As others have said, just go on with your life like she never existed...it's a near-impossible task, but dwelling on the past will only create a sense of false-hope and inevitable crippling depression.

+1 I know exactly what you mean when you talk about seeing her facebook page :lol After a while, you'll look back on it and wonder how easy it was to get over it

[NRHector]

S7MuwPlOiNQ

[DeadlyDynasty]

Nope. I haven't heard from her. I'm getting on with my life. Can't worry about that which I don't control.

Good to hear, brosef. You back in the game or are you still sitting a few more plays out?

[DeadlyDynasty]

+1 I know exactly what you mean when you talk about seeing her facebook page :lol After a while, you'll look back on it and wonder how easy it was to get over it

yeah, shoulda never checked it out in the first place. was like a swift kick in the nuts:lol

[Findog]

Good to hear, brosef. You back in the game or are you still sitting a few more plays out?

My birthday is early February. I'm working on getting myself emotionally ready to date again around that time. Nobody is going to want to get involved with somebody a month removed from an engagement. I've had a lot of time to think about this and intellectually I understand it and what happened, but emotionally I'm not even close to being over her and being over this. Emotionally it's still incomprehensible to me.

She basically has trust, intimacy and commitment issues when it comes to being in a long-term committed relationship. Her biological father abandoned her mom when she was pregnant, her mom has been married three times, her older sister told her that she married her brother in law for security and not love. By being the breaker-upper, she avoids potentially being hurt and gets to be in complete control. Leaving me is not the issue, but the way she did it. Everybody I've talked to, including my therapist, believes she is a perfect example of emotional instability. She's useless to me in a relationship anyways if she can't overcome and address those issues.

There is a window open for her to come to her senses and for us to work through this in counseling, but I have to assume the breakup is permanent and I'll never hear from her again. I've got to own and live my life, have goals and achievements to work towards. If she comes back, I have her and my achievements. If she doesn't, I have my achievements and eventually somebody else more deserving of me. When it comes down to it, do I really want to be with somebody who would rather take the easy way out and hurt me than deal with her problems? I would never have done to her what she did to me.

On a macro level, I understand she has an emotional complex when it comes to fear of abandonment, intimacy and commitment, but on a micro level I don't understand this and never will.

[DeadlyDynasty]

My birthday is early February. I'm working on getting myself emotionally ready to date again around that time. Nobody is going to want to get involved with somebody a month removed from an engagement. I've had a lot of time to think about this and intellectually I understand it and what happened, but emotionally I'm not even close to being over her and being over this. Emotionally it's still incomprehensible to me.

She basically has trust, intimacy and commitment issues when it comes to being in a long-term committed relationship. Her biological father abandoned her mom when she was pregnant, her mom has been married three times, her older sister told her that she married her brother in law for security and not love. By being the breaker-upper, she avoids potentially being hurt and gets to be in complete control. Leaving me is not the issue, but the way she did it. Everybody I've talked to, including my therapist, believes she is a perfect example of emotional instability. She's useless to me in a relationship anyways if she can't overcome and address those issues.

There is a window open for her to come to her senses and for us to work through this in counseling, but I have to assume the breakup is permanent and I'll never hear from her again. I've got to own and live my life, have goals and achievements to work towards. If she comes back, I have her and my achievements. If she doesn't, I have my achievements and eventually somebody else more deserving of me. When it comes down to it, do I really want to be with somebody who would rather take the easy way out and hurt me than deal with her problems? I would never have done to her what she did to me.

On a macro level, I understand she has an emotional complex when it comes to fear of abandonment, intimacy and commitment, but on a micro level I don't understand this and never will.

<---February 4th:toast

From what you've just said it's unquestionably abandonment issues. The girl I was telling you about earlier--she's similar in that she's always been the one to break off relationships--including ours. She's older than me too, but it never felt like there was a big age gap. When she was 15 she chose to live with her father when her parents got divorced, and the Dad ended up shooting himself 2 years later for reasons still unknown. Since then she's been able to have long term relationships (including ours), but she broke all of them off either right before engagement or marriage. She told me about a guy she was engaged to 3-4 years ago and how they were vacationing in Jamaica as a hurricane was about to hit. While they were on the beach she said something to him like "If this is it, am I the last face you wanna see." She hinted that they both agreed "no," and that was that. That's a pretty cold question to ask somebody and I should've been warned when she told me that story. Either way, she's got serious abandonment/daddy issues.

Sorry for the diatribe man, but it sounds like you're maintaining a level head through all this which is a feat unto itself--seriously, this kinda heartbreak can fuck you up for months. The saddest situation though lies with her, b/c unless she faces her demons she's ultimately gonna end up alone.

It's smart to assume the break-up is permanent, that will only help you move on faster--but believe me bro--you will definitely hear from her again. Might not be for months, perhaps years, but she will pop up again. Good luck

[BRHornet45]

son let me guess ... she left you for a brotha?

[KapitanTutan]

did she left you for tony parker?

[BRHorent's son]

son let me guess ... she left you for a brotha?

Where's mommy been the last few days? Is she still hanging out with that Tyson Chandler guy?

[Findog]

<---February 4th:toast

From what you've just said it's unquestionably abandonment issues. The girl I was telling you about earlier--she's similar in that she's always been the one to break off relationships--including ours. She's older than me too, but it never felt like there was a big age gap. When she was 15 she chose to live with her father when her parents got divorced, and the Dad ended up shooting himself 2 years later for reasons still unknown. Since then she's been able to have long term relationships (including ours), but she broke all of them off either right before engagement or marriage. She told me about a guy she was engaged to 3-4 years ago and how they were vacationing in Jamaica as a hurricane was about to hit. While they were on the beach she said something to him like "If this is it, am I the last face you wanna see." She hinted that they both agreed "no," and that was that. That's a pretty cold question to ask somebody and I should've been warned when she told me that story. Either way, she's got serious abandonment/daddy issues.

Sorry for the diatribe man, but it sounds like you're maintaining a level head through all this which is a feat unto itself--seriously, this kinda heartbreak can fuck you up for months. The saddest situation though lies with her, b/c unless she faces her demons she's ultimately gonna end up alone.

It's smart to assume the break-up is permanent, that will only help you move on faster--but believe me bro--you will definitely hear from her again. Might not be for months, perhaps years, but she will pop up again. Good luck

You can't fix other people, only they can help themselves. I can't drag her to a therapist, or a doctor to check for a chemical imbalance. It hurts to see somebody you care and love about in pain and there is nothing you can do to help them. I thought about going to her mom, but her mom knows her better than anybody and can no more tell her what to do than I can.

And you're not the first person to tell me that I will hear from her again someday under the guise of being regretful about how things ended. In the meantime I've got to get on with my life.

[Johnny RIngo]

The man speaks the truth.

The male sex has become such a pussy nowadays that you wonder who really is the female in the relationship. I've thought about this a lot and we've become the "bottom" of the relationship that if you're anything more than that, you're a chauvinist pig.

That's probably why women have become such huge whores as well.

Doesn't help that the movie studios try to feed us this bullshit image where the male is supposed to desperately pine over the girl after being dumped by her. Lot of these films cater to the warped fantasies of women. My Sassy Girl(Korean version-haven't seen the remake) for example. The BF is so damned whipped in that movie-he's slapped, humiliated, forced to walk in her high heels, dumped by her and STILL worships the ground she walks on. Ridiculous.

[MmP]

Man I really don't know Findog but reading one of his last post I admire the maturity (despite still being hurt obviously) that you describe the whole situation. I hope you can bounce back man.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I just heard from a mutual friend up in Pittsburgh that my ex is getting married a day after my birthday (Feb. 5th)...I don't even know what to think of that :lol
Who gets married in February?

[monosylab1k]

I just heard from a mutual friend up in Pittsburgh that my ex is getting married a day after my birthday (Feb. 5th)...I don't even know what to think of that :lol
Who gets married in February?

people trying to get into that wedding dress before the baby bump shows up and everybody knows they're about to give birth to a bastard.

[DeadlyDynasty]

people trying to get into that wedding dress before the baby bump shows up and everybody knows they're about to give birth to a bastard.

Yeah I thought about that but I just don't see it (not this soon anyways). But nothing really surprises me anymore, that would be the icing on the cake.

[leemajors]

I just heard from a mutual friend up in Pittsburgh that my ex is getting married a day after my birthday (Feb. 5th)...I don't even know what to think of that :lol
Who gets married in February?

Venue rental prices and plane tickets/honeymoon packages are notoriously low in winter. That and what mono said.

[koriwhat]

man, what a sad thread... but it makes me laugh my ass off every time i visit it.

[Findog]

She broke radio silence today after 92 days to email asking for her bike back. I feel sick.

[Findog]

Also my grandfather died last Thursday, funeral is Tuesday. She is coming by Wednesday night to get the bike. She left me two days after we put my dad in a rehab facility for alcoholism. When he got out he was as bad as ever. This has been the worst three months of my life. That email tonight was the final nail in the coffin.

[koriwhat]

She broke radio silence today after 92 days to email asking for her bike back. I feel sick.

dude... move on and stop airing your shit out here on ST.

not trying to be a dick but it's time to do both of what i just suggested.

[koriwhat]

Also my grandfather died last Thursday, funeral is Tuesday. She is coming by Wednesday night to get the bike. She left me two days after we out my dad in a rehab facility. When he got out he was as bad as ever. This has been the worst three months of my life. That email tonight was the final nail in the coffin.

good luck to you man!

[koriwhat]

btw, fuck her bike! i'd ask for storage money... if she doesn't have any, then sell that shit or throw it out. fuck that cold bitch.

[Kori Ellis]

Also my grandfather died last Thursday, funeral is Tuesday. She is coming by Wednesday night to get the bike. She left me two days after we put my dad in a rehab facility for alcoholism. When he got out he was as bad as ever. This has been the worst three months of my life. That email tonight was the final nail in the coffin.

Sorry about your grandfather and your father.

As for the girl, you have to know you are better off without her. When you give the bike back, really try to let go. I know it's rough but things are going to get better. Sometimes, life goes through cycles where you stay in a down/bad period for what seems like forever. You'll rebound from it and be fine.

[Trainwreck2100]

after 60 days its your bike tbh

[koriwhat]

after 60 days its your bike tbh

:tu

no fuckin' doubt!

[ElNono]

Also my grandfather died last Thursday, funeral is Tuesday. She is coming by Wednesday night to get the bike. She left me two days after we put my dad in a rehab facility for alcoholism. When he got out he was as bad as ever. This has been the worst three months of my life. That email tonight was the final nail in the coffin.

Sorry to hear that, man.

Hope you get through this rough patch and can bounce back soon. Sometimes a bunch of stuff piles up and it seems insurmountable, but you have to keep fighting and you'll get over the hump.

[jestersmash]

Your life doesn't sound as bad as the 4 year old toddler that got run over by an ice cream truck in our town the other week. Little guy never even had the opportunity to experience the pain of loss which is arguably worse. Someone out there always has it worse. You should take solace in that fact.

And as for dealing with problems in general my father always told me this -

If there aren't any solutions to your problems, there's no point in crying over them/letting them consume you.

If there are solutions to your problems, spend some time every day crafting and working towards said solutions. Crying in this case is merely a waste of time.

It's really a win-win situation. If there are no solutions to your problems, then there's rationally no point in being depressed about it. If there are solutions to your problems, then there's rationally no point in wasting any time crying over them. Spend time carefully and methodically determining what you can do to solve said problems and work towards that goal.

There's only one girl I've ever loved in my life. We had been childhood friends growing up. We formally dated through high school and through most of college (7 years). One night (while on a trip to Vegas) I found out she had cheated on me, and instead of confronting her about it immediately I started drinking heavily while we were out with some mutual friends. In a drunken range I lost it and just started verbally harassing her to the point where she was in tears. I didn't just break up with her, I gave her the verbal thrashing of her life apparently - much of which I don't even remember. I really drank myself into a rage that night.

After being friends from kindergarten and after having been with her for so long, we completely shut off contact with each other after that night (our flights home were early the following morning). I haven't spoken to her or heard from her in 2 years come March 19, 2011. Haven't been interested in any girl since. Haven't even dated any girl since. Haven't had a sip of alcohol since that night, albeit I never was a heavy drinker.

Point is - don't do what I did. You never want to leave on those kinds of terms with a woman. It'll fester and eat at your soul. Not a day goes by that I wish I'd handled that situation differently.

This woman asked for something back - respond courteously, respond politely, but at the same time don't ever harbor any fantasies of getting back with her. That's yet another mistake I made and, my friends might argue, it's a mistake I'm still making to this day. It's pathetic. Don't be pathetic like me. Good luck man.

[erikuff]

fuck your life OP

[Yorae]

Welcome to the findog saga......

[DeadlyDynasty]

February's just a couple weeks away, man...time to get back out there.

[BUMP]

Hi Fin,

I always seem to experience the same problem as you. All the bad events seem to come at the same time and it can seemingly overwhelm you if you let it. Just remember to take it all one day at a time, otherwise you can go crazy just thinking about it all. You can't deal with Friday, until you take on Thursday. Cheesy ass cliche, but it will definitely help.

[BillWalton]

Funny how the team someone roots for changes everything

If this was a Spurfan, Bump would be pestering/copy and pasting the guy til he committed suicide

[u4lakers14]

read the thread.

honestly, she is the worst kind of flake,,,,,,,the kind that does not seem to be a flake.

stick your chest out, take it on the chin, and even if it kills you, smile when she last looks at you walking away, then be born again.

[koriwhat]

i wouldn't even reply to her stupid fuckin' email... fuck that bitch!

you ain't got no storage fee money = i ain't got your bike bitch

[HarlemHeat37]

This shit genuinely angers me, tbh..you'll bounce back though, Fin..we all act tough and hard on the outside, but when it comes to females, all bets are off..

[Findog]

read the thread.

honestly, she is the worst kind of flake,,,,,,,the kind that does not seem to be a flake.

stick your chest out, take it on the chin, and even if it kills you, smile when she last looks at you walking away, then be born again.


I'm going to be pleasant and courteous even though it kills me on the inside. I can't let on how much I've hurt.

[Findog]

Sorry about your grandfather and your father.

As for the girl, you have to know you are better off without her. When you give the bike back, really try to let go. I know it's rough but things are going to get better. Sometimes, life goes through cycles where you stay in a down/bad period for what seems like forever. You'll rebound from it and be fine.

My head knows I'm better off. My heart is another story. Hate having to start over. I know people drift apart and fall out of love, but to do quickly go from "I love you, I want to marry you, this is the best r/l I've ever been in" and be sincere, to wanting me out of your life, that is not normal or healthy. She had a lot of wonderful qualities for me to fall in love with her, but it hurts to have to look at somebody you loved so deeply in a new and less flattering light, and mourn the loss of who you thought she was.

[Findog]

This shit genuinely angers me, tbh..you'll bounce back though, Fin..we all act tough and hard on the outside, but when it comes to females, all bets are off..

Oh I've felt a lot of anger. I didn't mistreat her, and the feedback throughout our time together was "you're the one, etc." so what should I have done differently? She definitely flakes out and freaked out on me.

[koriwhat]

hey atleast she didn't lie to the cops and tell them you beat her over and over again just because you(me) told her you didn't want her no longer because she's a cheat.

at least you weren't close to being thrown in jail for absolutely nothing.

you live and you learn man... tomorrow is always just around the corner and life goes on, change is inevitable.

[Giuseppe]

It's difficult to have a contrast to this that would lessen your grief. Only your own demise at this point would provide such a "relief." You've been touched and no amount of rationalizing is going to grant you absolution here. Listening to us demonize her won't do the trick either. She's not a monster. She just rejected you. Her humanity only makes it that much more difficult.

[koriwhat]

It's difficult to have a contrast to this that would lessen your grief. Only your own demise at this point would provide such a "relief." You've been touched and no amount of rationalizing is going to grant you absolution here. Listening to us demonize her won't do the trick either. She's not a monster. She just rejected you. Her humanity only makes it that much more difficult.

:tu

[Ignignokt]

koriwhat, you'e such a faggot, no one wants your trailerpark Joey mann advice.

[koriwhat]

iggy, you're a bitch and there ain't no denying it. there's no doubt in my mind you've been sheltered enough by your family that you think you have balls enough to call others out on the net behind your monitor. grow up motherfucker and stop spamming homeboys thread already just cause you hold some sort of immature internet grudge against me.

[silverblk mystix]

Also my grandfather died last Thursday, funeral is Tuesday. She is coming by Wednesday night to get the bike. She left me two days after we put my dad in a rehab facility for alcoholism. When he got out he was as bad as ever. This has been the worst three months of my life. That email tonight was the final nail in the coffin.

Findog;
Sorry about your losses...but...

You are looking at this the wrong way...

The last 3 months have been one hell of a test..but they were a great opportunity to show what you are made of...and you are still here, still standing-so to speak.

Give yourself some credit...you haven't been defeated...you survived and will continue to do so.

You lived a lifetime....BEFORE...you met this girl...and there is a LIFETIME ahead for you....WITHOUT this girl.

How was it possible that you lived your life so well BEFORE even meeting this girl....simple;

because ...

WE COME INTO THIS WORLD ALONE AND WE LEAVE ALONE.

She is not one of the main items on the list for your survival...she is someone who entered your life...taught you something...and it is up to you now to take that lesson and move on.

There will be others...and someday you will look back on this and think to yourself...``I am so glad she did what she did because it allowed me to move on in my life and accomplish.....A,B,C,D,etc.... and it allowed me to meet and fall in love again with (new girl -X) someone new and be happier than I ever would have been with her.''

This was not the final nail in the coffin..this was just an opportunity for some closure....but beware...you should NOT even be there when she picks it up...trust me...she is a DRUG that you CANNOT handle right now...and it would not be surprising at all if she has another agenda....(like messing with your heart again). Who needs a fuckin' bike anyway-it is nothing but a pretext for the real reason.

Do the smart thing and tell her you are busy and tell her to grab the item and then just avoid her---otherwise she may reel you right back in...

You are 3 months into a COLD TURKEY program...and this could set you back again....

DO YOU want to have to start all over cold turkey again AFTER she lets you down again...because she has proven to be a snake and she will not turn into a trustworthy person because you fantasize her being trustworthy and place her on a pedestal again...

You are a smart guy...think it over and avoid her for your own good.

As far as the home life...maybe you need to getaway solo for awhile...leave home and family and go out and have yourself an adventure or two...you ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE for taking care and trying to deal with an alcoholic parent...it is not in your power to fix....

get on the road and find yourself while you are young...be like KEROUAC for awhile...hit the road and live....nothing is stopping you from living---EXCEPT your readiness to accept defeat and allow things and people to kill your spirit...

sometimes...

you gotta just say---FUK IT!

AND


go out into the fuckin' wild...walk the earth and live off the fat of the fuckin land and find some adventure and transport yourself into a better place...put on a brand new mind....develop a taste for the new and you will discover a very exciting world out there....

Do it.

[Findog]

Silverblk,

You are right. My friend actually has the bike, not me. I asked him to handle it and he didn't want to. I just hope she keeps it brief and on the bike only. She already has a bike, this is her backup bike.

[Giuseppe]

Perhaps its a ruse to come back, Fin.

[Findog]

Perhaps its a ruse to come back, Fin.

I really doubt it. If that were the case, she would not be borrowing her moms van to retrieve it.

[Giuseppe]

Yeah, that's not good.

Well, its only right that you not farm the return out to others. Look eye, don't reproach and perhaps flog the log a half-hour before arrival. It'll mellow you out. Either that, or, stick your finger down your throat. A gag reflex is a great stress breaker.

[ploto]

...it hurts to have to look at somebody you loved so deeply in a new and less flattering light, and mourn the loss of who you thought she was.

When you see her now, if you do, remember this. Look at her for real- for who she is and how she treated you- and not for who you thought she was. It seriously will make you feel better than you think.

Last time I saw my ex, I barely even recognized him. Not that he has really changed that much in physical appearance, he probably looks the same to the world, but through my eyes, he looks like a completely different person, because to me he is.

Good luck and my condolences.

[dunkman]

It's not the end of the world. . .

[nkdlunch]

man up and stop looking pathetic already....

[BlackSwordsMan]

If cubby ever left me I don't know what I would do.

[Venti Quattro]

9VWV6aIZrNk

[Giuseppe]

If cubby ever left me I don't know what I would do.

Our allegiance to one another is forever, Swords.

You stood up for Cubby in his darkest hour. The Princess was threatening me with an ELE.

Swords

[DMC]

Lucky bastard

[Giuseppe]

Lucky bastard

:lol

Women, you can't live with 'em.

You can't live with 'em.

[TheRealCB]

So I was 18 months with my girlfriend,but I started feeling something was going on about two months ago...I started asking her if anything was going on she said no,that everything was ok and that she loved me...Then one day she texts me and says "you have your book in my house" and that's when I realised it was all over...I said "yeah,why'd you say that though?" She didn't reply and then I texted again asking if that was it.. She said she didn't know and she felt bad....All in all I went to her place and hugged her,told her I loved her and she said that so was she..

A week after, she says it's over and although she loves she just wants to be alone..Not my fault,she said..

It's been almost a month since that happened and every day that passes I realise how much I love her and how hard it is to live without her..I tried talking to her twice,but she continued saying she can't be with anyone at this point..

At first I thought "ok,now that I'm single it's gonna be lot's of sex and no problems now"... But after hitting 2 girls in the first week,now I just don't wanna talk to anyone..All I do is play basketball (so I can think of something else for 2 hours a day)...

Don't even know why I'm saying all this to you guys...But I had to speak to someone..

[i MAke GOod POlls]

i thought it was Findog bumping this useless thread again. Then we would have to read another one of his longass replies followed by 9-10 tedious posts giving stupid advice that he probly won't ready anyway

[tlongII]

When a girl says it's over, it's over. Deal with it. Sounds like teenage angst in here.

[Giuseppe]

So I was 18 months with my girlfriend,but I started feeling something was going on about two months ago...I started asking her if anything was going on she said no,that everything was ok and that she loved me...Then one day she texts me and says "you have your book in my house" and that's when I realised it was all over...I said "yeah,why'd you say that though?" She didn't reply and then I texted again asking if that was it.. She said she didn't know and she felt bad....All in all I went to her place and hugged her,told her I loved her and she said that so was she..

A week after, she says it's over and although she loves she just wants to be alone..Not my fault,she said..

It's been almost a month since that happened and every day that passes I realise how much I love her and how hard it is to live without her..I tried talking to her twice,but she continued saying she can't be with anyone at this point..

At first I thought "ok,now that I'm single it's gonna be lot's of sex and no problems now"... But after hitting 2 girls in the first week,now I just don't wanna talk to anyone..All I do is play basketball (so I can think of something else for 2 hours a day)...

Don't even know why I'm saying all this to you guys...But I had to speak to someone..

You have to give her legitimate time & space. You've no other choice. Don't beseech her now for an answer, whether it be positive or negative. Leave her alone. Your wish to [have this misery culminated] must be ignored.

And don't fuck other people in the interim. It's not going to relieve your misery. Just jackoff. Fucking is complex. Jacking off is pure & unencumbered. You must relieve the stress, and mark time. If it gets unbearable, wash your hands and stick your finger down your throat, activating your gag reflex. That will instantly cause you to sweat cleanly, and your stomach to smooth out the knot.

You'll know in your mind's eye when the time is right to approach her for a final disposition of your relationship. And you deserve that disposition. Look eye, keep your ears open and your mouth shut. Listen to what is being said to you. Guys are bullshitters. Women tell the story. Nothing is wasted. She'll tell it. You may not like it, but, you deserve to hear it.

[WeNeedLength]

You have to give her legitimate time & space. You've no other choice. Don't beseech her now for an answer, whether it be positive or negative. Leave her alone. Your wish to [have this misery culminated] must be ignored.

And don't fuck other people in the interim. It's not going to relieve your misery. Just jackoff. Fucking is complex. Jacking off is pure & unencumbered. You must relieve the stress, and mark time. If it gets unbearable, wash your hands and stick your finger down your throat, activating your gag reflex. That will instantly cause you to sweat cleanly, and your stomach to smooth out the knot.

You'll know in your mind's eye when the time is right to approach her for a final disposition of your relationship. And you deserve that disposition. Look eye, keep your ears open and your mouth shut. Listen to what is being said to you. Guys are bullshitters. Women tell the story. Nothing is wasted. She'll tell it. You may not like it, but, you deserve to hear it.

Damn Dr. Phil of the NBA forum is in the building. Gagging yourself really is a solution to relieve stress? Weird shit man...:lol

[Nick Manning]

When a girl says it's over, it's over. Deal with it. Sounds like teenage angst in here.

tlong with all the answers. u still 55 and single, brah?

[LnGrrrR]

You have to give her legitimate time & space. You've no other choice. Don't beseech her now for an answer, whether it be positive or negative. Leave her alone. Your wish to [have this misery culminated] must be ignored.

And don't fuck other people in the interim. It's not going to relieve your misery. Just jackoff. Fucking is complex. Jacking off is pure & unencumbered. You must relieve the stress, and mark time. If it gets unbearable, wash your hands and stick your finger down your throat, activating your gag reflex. That will instantly cause you to sweat cleanly, and your stomach to smooth out the knot.

You'll know in your mind's eye when the time is right to approach her for a final disposition of your relationship. And you deserve that disposition. Look eye, keep your ears open and your mouth shut. Listen to what is being said to you. Guys are bullshitters. Women tell the story. Nothing is wasted. She'll tell it. You may not like it, but, you deserve to hear it.

I thought you were supposed to come back AFTER the All-Star break.

[Giuseppe]

I thought you were supposed to come back AFTER the All-Star break.

Don't start, Ln. I had a legit point with Che in the ELE Thread. He originally said "after the ASB."....I said "until the ASB." I asked for clarification and he said I could come back today.

[LnGrrrR]

Don't start, Ln. I had a legit point with Che in the ELE Thread. He originally said "after the ASB."....I said "until the ASB." I asked for clarification and he said I could come back today.

:lol Fair enough. I'm just checking assholes. :toast

You missed the Cle loss... but that's probably for the best.

[Giuseppe]

:lol Fair enough. I'm just checking assholes. :toast

You missed the Cle loss... but that's probably for the best.

Just one of many such losses this season.

There is no easy way out of it.

But, the "world" will get smaller when the playoffs start. The game will slow down markedly and Rasheed's aforementioned "bootie holes be gettin' tight" will be doing so once again.

[LnGrrrR]

Just one of many such losses this season.

There is no easy way out of it.

But, the "world" will get smaller when the playoffs start. The game will slow down markedly and Rasheed's aforementioned "bootie holes be gettin' tight" will be doing so once again.

Yup. All in all, the loss will matter little come playoff time. It's just a blip.

Of course, it's a blip that deserves ridicule. :lol

[Giuseppe]

Yup. All in all, the loss will matter little come playoff time. It's just a blip.

Of course, it's a blip that deserves ridicule. :lol

And I was appalled at the amount of ridicule and downright savagery that took place after the game, Ln. I was here to look and it was heartrending.

[LnGrrrR]

And I was appalled at the amount of ridicule and downright savagery that took place after the game, Ln. I was here to look and it was heartrending.

Don't act like it wouldn't have been different with your crew if the C's had lost to some degenerate team.

You may not talk a big game Cully, but those you run with certainly do. You can't praise Kool for coming in full of bravado, and then regret it when he gets it punched in the gut.

[tlongII]

tlong with all the answers. u still 55 and single, brah?

Duh!

[Findog's Ex Fiancee]

Where is my fucking bike?! Geez let it go already!

[Findog]

tlong with all the answers. u still 55 and single, brah?

He's right though. Female dumpers are different from male dumpers. When they're done, they're done. Male dumpers sometimes recycle their exes.

[Findog]

And don't fuck other people in the interim. It's not going to relieve your misery.

Yeah, I did that and it didn't work. I felt like shit afterwards. Guiseppe speaks the truth.