CBSsports BREAKING NEWS: League considering contraction of lesser profitable teams

[Darthkiller]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/14168647/nba-owners-float-contraction-along-with-huge-pay-cuts



In another staggering development, CBSSports.com learned that salaries may not be the only area cut as the NBA tries to gets its financial books up to speed with the explosion in popularity the league will experience this season. A person with knowledge of the owners' discussions said the league "will continue to be open to contraction" as a possible mechanism for restoring the league to profitability.

[Darthkiller]

next season might be the last season for the:

hornets
kings
bobcats
twolves
clippers
hawks
cavs

[MannyIsGod]

I'm not buying it. You think those owners are just going to bend over for the rest of the league? Stern is posturing and thats it.

Get ready for a work stoppage. If this is the line the NBA is going to take then its inevitable.

[Girasuck]

next season might be the last season for the:

hornets
kings
bobcats
twolves
clippers
hawks
cavs

I thought the Pacers were in trouble as well.

[sananspursfan21]

this cant be right

[MannyIsGod]

That being said it would be BAD ass to cut the dead weight from the league and make the talent pool for the remaining teams better.

[Man In Black]

Oh I don't know, there are those guys who decided way back when the ABA was going to merge with the NBA that they didn't want to be bought out. Here it is. The Silna Brothers:
n the summer of 1976, with the ABA at the point of financial collapse after nine years, the six surviving franchises (the Virginia Squires went bankrupt immediately after the final season) began negotiating a merger with the NBA. But the senior circuit decided to accept only four teams from the rival league: the Nets (the last ABA champion), Denver Nuggets, Indiana Pacers and San Antonio Spurs.

The NBA placated John Y. Brown, owner of the Kentucky Colonels, by giving him a $3.3 million settlement in exchange for shutting his team down. (Brown later used much of that money to buy the Buffalo Braves of the NBA.) But the owners of the Spirits, the brothers Ozzie and Dan Silna, struck a prescient deal to acquire future television money from the teams that joined the NBA, a one-seventh share from each franchise, in perpetuity. With network TV deals becoming more and more lucrative, the deal has made the Silnas wealthy, earning them $186 million as of 2008, according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

(The NBA nearly succeeded in buying out the Silnas in 1982 by offering $5 million over eight years, but negotiations stalled when the siblings demanded $8 million over five.) The current TV deal gives the Silnas $14.57 million a season; on June 27, 2007, it was extended for another eight years, ensuring another $100 million-plus windfall for the former Spirits owners.

That right there is giving the NBA the middle finger.

http://www.indianaeconomicdigest.net/main.asp?SectionID=31&subsectionID=276&articleID=45941
This article talks about how the Pacers are tired of paying those guys.

[Giuseppe]

Manny is right, but, it would be such a blessing. You got 30 teams chasing talent enough for perhaps half that amount.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Also wants to cut all current player contracts by 1/3. Same link as above.

But what might have been low key for owners was a horror show for players. In short, as soon as the Year of the Big Three is over, Stern will look to shave players' salaries by one-third in a new CBA.

[DeadlyDynasty]

The Clippers need to gtfo already. They've done jack-shit and are an open-sore on the cock of the NBA

[Sisk]

The Clippers need to gtfo already. They've done jack-shit and are an open-sore on the cock of the NBA

I agree. Put so eloquently too.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Stern is really doing his best to tear the NBA down bit by bit. He took over during the NBA's golden age when it was flourishing, and it's gone downhill ever since.

[21_Blessings]

next season might be the last season for the:

hornets
kings
bobcats
twolves
clippers
hawks
cavs

The Clippers are actually profitable. Don't really know the numbers on the rest but the Lakers' farm team might be in trouble.

[21_Blessings]

Stern is really doing his best to tear the NBA down bit by bit. He took over during the NBA's golden age when it was flourishing, and it's gone downhill ever since.

Can't tell if this is a troll but his globalization of the sport and made it the clear cut #2 in America/World.

[boutons_deux]

20 teams max, not there's not enough talent for 30.

[Budkin]

Fuck that shit. No city deserves to lose its team. If anything move the Clips to a city that will give a fuck about them.

[Pelicans78]

Baseball is still ahead of the NBA in this country.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Baseball is still ahead of the NBA in this country.

Not to hear baseball owners tell (read: lie) about it.

Of course, the owners of the Pirates and Marlins both got exposed as fraudsters by claiming losses when both clubs were profitable...

Hmmmm... does this sound familiar at all?

I'm not buying the NBA's line about "$350-$400M in losses" per annum story. Doesn't even come close to passing the sniff test.

[21_Blessings]

Baseball is still ahead of the NBA in this country.

Funny joke.

[ducks]

so the heat get the 3 superstars signed
then the new cba stern wants is to cut pay by 1/3 so no team can compete with the heat

[MannyIsGod]

so the heat get the 3 superstars signed
then the new cba stern wants is to cut pay by 1/3 so no team can compete with the heat

Fuck, ducks makes a great point.

[Baseline]

The franchises that need to go are the Grizz, TWolves, and Raptors.

The league would not miss any of those teams one iota.

If you want an even number, then add the Hornets to the list. Chris Paul will be gone after this year anyway, and George Shinn is a disgrace.

[DeadlyDynasty]

The franchises that need to go are the Grizz, TWolves, and Raptors.

The league would not miss any of those teams one iota.

If you want an even number, then add the Hornets to the list. Chris Paul will be gone after this year anyway, and George Shinn is a disgrace.

I disagree about the T-Wolves tbh. Raptors, Grizzlies, Clippers, and Nets can all go and nobody would notice.

[Darthkiller]

there is no way the warriors get contracted, one of the oldest franchise in one of the biggest market( bay area) .

[21_Blessings]

Fuck, ducks makes a great point.

Well not really. If the owners get their way -- shorter contracts/non-guaranteed money means they can rebuild quite a bit faster and more efficiently.

[Cry Havoc]

That being said it would be BAD ass to cut the dead weight from the league and make the talent pool for the remaining teams better.

I disagree. You can field 30 good NBA teams, just not 30 or even 10-12 power teams.

The NBA needs a hard salary cap. Look how competitive football is. Is their talent pool "diluted" despite having 3+ times as many players per team?

The New Orleans Saints turned a team around in 3 years. Can you imagine if 3 years from now, the Clippers or Pacers had a shot at a title? Would those teams have half-empty stadiums if the crowd that there was a chance for a turnaround on the horizon? I mean, why would you even want to go to a Raptors game these days? They aren't going to win the title in the next 5-8 years, minimum. Basically if you have nothing else to do, you don't mind seeing your team lose, AND you have disposable income, you might go to see the Raps play. There's no buzz on the sports talk about them in the local city. There's no fan support, because they know any talent they have is leaving to richer climes.

Now imagine if they could afford to keep a star (because they don't have to pay him $25,000,000 a season) and actually build around him. Suddenly the team is making runs to the semis and even a couple of conference Finals. Fans increase as they see they might have a shot at winning a title. Team gets more money. Suddenly they are helping the NBA, not hurting it.

Now look at the NFL. What team (especially this year) didn't have a shot at going 5-0 to start the season if they would have made fewer mistakes? What team doesn't have a chance to win a title in 3-4 years? Every single team could conceivably make a title run or at least get deep in the playoffs with good management and signings.

The NBA's system sucks. It's actually worse than baseball, because baseball is random enough that you can go out and sign all big names and they could all have horrible seasons. Basketball, you basically know what you're getting.

The league doesn't need fewer teams. They need to give smaller market teams a chance to matter.

Can you imagine if Boston got Tim Duncan? You would have 3 teams from 1991 to 2010 that won the title every year, the Bulls, Lakers, and Celtics (oh, look at that, the three largest markets in America... what an equal opportunity NBA we have!). The Heat would never had a chance in a Duncan-powered East. The 2004 Pistons might have been able to make a run, but that still leaves us with 3 teams winning 19 titles and a 4th winning one.

And you're arguing the NBA needs to allow those teams to be even stronger? Come on, man.

Fuck contraction. Can you imagine if the NFL had decided to contract the Rams in 1998? Or the Saints in 2003? How about those shitty Arizona Cardinals that never won a playoff game in forever?

Yeah, all those teams went to the Super Bowl. Just about the only teams that haven't made runs in the past decade or so are the Lions and Browns. If you think it's a coincidence that football is suddenly the most popular sport in America by miles and the fans realize that their team has a shot to win it all almost any given year, well, I don't know what else to say.

[DAF86]

Fuck, ducks makes a great point.

Not really, the less teams are in the league, the more condensed the talent will be among the other teams.

[Cry Havoc]

Just for the record, I called for a contraction around this time last year, kinda.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132567&highlight=contraction

On the other hand, I'm all for contracting the Trailblazers and giving the Spurs all of their players. :tu

[DMX7]

CBS sports is never right.

[duncan228]

Stern concedes contraction could be on table (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=txstern)
By Brian Mahoney

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=txstern

[Leonard Curse]

The Clippers need to gtfo already. They've done jack-shit and are an open-sore on the cock of the NBA

:lmao:vomit:

[Leonard Curse]

now people arent making fun of those folks who used to warn about the NEW WORLD ORDER in every thing we are being globalized and america has become so stupid and chicken shit that no one fights for anything anymore!!!

you guys ever heard of the north american union bill passed and signed by bush?? probably not look it up!! so this just falls right into place with whats going on with the rest of the world.

they have to have sports or else what is going to distract the masses while they pass unconstitutional laws ??!?!?! thats why theyll be no lock out there i said it dammit

[024]

man, i bet stern is going to tear apart the cavs and raptors in the east and just give a random team like the heat lebron james and chris bosh. as for the west, he'll probably get rid of the grizzlies and send pau gasol to the lakers. oh wait...

[BlairForceDejuan]

That being said it would be BAD ass to cut the dead weight from the league and make the talent pool for the remaining teams better.

This. I hope it happens even though it won't.