Obama kills a man while in Oregon

[Wild Cobra]

Well...

Indirectly:

Motorcyclist who crashed on I-84 while drivers slowed to watch President Obama's motorcade dies (http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/motorcyclist_who_crashed_on_i-.html)

Now what isn't mentioned in any online news that I could find, but was in print from the local newspaper, is that the man would have likely lived if the ambulance could have got to him sooner, not being impacted my the motorcade.

[DMX7]

No wonder you're a fucking repair man.

[RandomGuy]

... and I should care because...?

[boutons_deux]

Magic Negro is 1000s of dead US military behind dubya, and 100s of 1000s of dead Muslims.

[Wild Cobra]

No wonder you're a fucking repair man.
Yes, I'm a repair man, but my expertise on the subject gives me a nice fat paycheck.

How about your job?

[Wild Cobra]

... and I should care because...?
No need really. I'm guilty of trolling here for responses.

Even though I dislike the man, I cannot say he doesn't need protection. I'm just posting a similar headline as to what the liberal media would be doing should such a think happen around president Bush's motorcade. Do you think the lefties would push that in everyone's faces or not, if this happened four years ago with a visit somewhere with president Bush?

Seriously...

What would a liberal response be?

Am I not allowed to stoop to their level? Don't you know.... I want to be like boutons!

[Steve Kerr]

Yes, I'm a repair man
:lmao

[RandomGuy]

No need really. I'm guilty of trolling here for responses.

Even though I dislike the man, I cannot say he doesn't need protection. I'm just posting a similar headline as to what the liberal media would be doing should such a think happen around president Bush's motorcade. Do you think the lefties would push that in everyone's faces or not, if this happened four years ago with a visit somewhere with president Bush?

Seriously...

What would a liberal response be?

Am I not allowed to stoop to their level? Don't you know.... I want to be like boutons!

If memory serves something eerily similar did happen during Bush's presidency.

Erk.

One of the motorcade cops got hit by a car or something.

[Wild Cobra]

:lmao
It wasn't that funny, so I must ask.

Did you forget your meds today, or are you did you smoke some good shit?

[Wild Cobra]

If memory serves something eerily similar did happen during Bush's presidency.

Erk.

One of the motorcade cops got hit by a car or something.
But was there a delayed response for medical help?

[baseline bum]

No need really. I'm guilty of trolling here for responses.

Even though I dislike the man, I cannot say he doesn't need protection. I'm just posting a similar headline as to what the liberal media would be doing should such a think happen around president Bush's motorcade. Do you think the lefties would push that in everyone's faces or not, if this happened four years ago with a visit somewhere with president Bush?

Seriously...

What would a liberal response be?

Am I not allowed to stoop to their level? Don't you know.... I want to be like boutons!

Way to call out what you perceive to be the douchebag media by acting like an even bigger one.

[fraga]

I like your topic headline...very Fox "News" ish...

[Wild Cobra]

Way to call out what you perceive to be the douchebag media by acting like an even bigger one.
Like I said, trying to act like boutons.

Aren't I doing it right? Maybe I need pointers. It's hard for me to degrade myself that much.

[boutons_deux]

"trying to act like boutons."

No way, you're way too subterrannean to reach Boutons' high-flying, forum-leading altitude.

[baseline bum]

Like I said, trying to act like boutons.

Aren't I doing it right? Maybe I need pointers. It's hard for me to degrade myself that much.

You usually make it look pretty easy.

[Stringer_Bell]

Poor WC, trying to troll for responses and ends up getting the game changed on him.

BUT! This thread could have worked it the delivery wasn't so deadpan. It's missing that wonderful liberal flavour that makes left-wing troll threads so inviting.

[ElNono]

It's clearly time to secede! :dramaquee

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No wonder you're a fucking repair man.

:lmao

[Wild Cobra]

Poor WC, trying to troll for responses and ends up getting the game changed on him.

I'm sure it works well enough. Unless people are total idiots, they see all I'm doing is what the left continually does to the right. Unsubstantiated claims of cause and effect.

[rjv]

understandably, WC merits much of what he gets but i really fail to see the correlation between repair men and stupidity. if WC is a repair man, so be it. i've known plenty of hard working repair men, mechanics, etc...

just seems a bit elitist to correlate repair men with something to be ridiculed.

carry on.

[Cry Havoc]

"Peter Kendall Gunderson, 59, seemingly failed to notice that rush-hour traffic ahead of him was slowing as he maneuvered a 2000 Yamaha motorcycle toward the 33rd Avenue overpass just after 5:50 p.m."

Donorcycle. Darwin candidate. Since when do you not pay attention to traffic while you're in a car, to say nothing of a motorcycle?

Massive WC fail here. He ran into the back of a car. His own damn fault.

Also, since when does a 59 year old own a 2000 Yahama? Wtf? :wow

[MannyIsGod]

No wonder you're a fucking repair man.

:lmao

[Blake]

No need really. I'm guilty of trolling here for responses.

Even though I dislike the man, I cannot say he doesn't need protection. I'm just posting a similar headline as to what the liberal media would be doing should such a think happen around president Bush's motorcade. Do you think the lefties would push that in everyone's faces or not, if this happened four years ago with a visit somewhere with president Bush?

Seriously...

What would a liberal response be?

Am I not allowed to stoop to their level? Don't you know.... I want to be like boutons!



Officer Escorting Bush Motorcade Dies in Crash
Monday, August 27, 2007

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — A Rio Rancho police officer died Monday after crashing his motorcycle while riding in a motorcade as President Bush prepared to leave the city following a fundraiser for Sen. Pete Domenici.

Officer Germaine Casey, 40, was rushed to an Albuquerque hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

.....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294813,00.html

was it conservative or liberal media that posted this headline?

did the lefties push it in your face in 2007?

[johnsmith]

:lmao

Not to stick up for WC here, but what is it that you do for a living again?

[coyotes_geek]

understandably, WC merits much of what he gets but i really fail to see the correlation between repair men and stupidity. if WC is a repair man, so be it. i've known plenty of hard working repair men, mechanics, etc...

just seems a bit elitist to correlate repair men with something to be ridiculed.

carry on.

No doubt. Pretty good pay and a job that can't be outsourced. Being a repair man is a pretty good gig for those who can get it.

[Wild Cobra]

"Peter Kendall Gunderson, 59, seemingly failed to notice that rush-hour traffic ahead of him was slowing as he maneuvered a 2000 Yamaha motorcycle toward the 33rd Avenue overpass just after 5:50 p.m."

Donorcycle. Darwin candidate. Since when do you not pay attention to traffic while you're in a car, to say nothing of a motorcycle?

Massive WC fail here. He ran into the back of a car. His own damn fault.

Also, since when does a 59 year old own a 2000 Yahama? Wtf? :wow
If you actually read what I wrote, I attributed the death (and so did the local papers) to the delay of medical attention. The delay was because of the motorcade.

[Wild Cobra]

was it conservative or liberal media that posted this headline?

did the lefties push it in your face in 2007?

Again, was this guys medical attention delayed?

Why can't you liberals acknowledge and respond to a specific point?

[Blake]

If you actually read what I wrote, I attributed the death (and so did the local papers) to the delay of medical attention. The delay was because of the motorcade.

He died because of a fiery motorcycle crash into the back end of a camaro. There's no guarantee he would have made it even had the ambulance been there seconds after the crash.

[Blake]

Again, was this guys medical attention delayed?

Why can't you liberals acknowledge and respond to a specific point?

If you actually read what you wrote, I repsonsed with semi-rhetorical questions to these specific points/questions:


I'm just posting a similar headline as to what the liberal media would be doing should such a think happen around president Bush's motorcade. Do you think the lefties would push that in everyone's faces or not, if this happened four years ago with a visit somewhere with president Bush?

Seriously...

What would a liberal response be?



such a thing basically did happen.

the story was posted by the conservative media.

I don't recall a liberal response and apparently you don't either.

You are terrible at trolling.

[z0sa]

This entire thread, in terms of the OP's title, and concept, is so incredulously indicative of mental retardation that I am suddenly afraid WC is the most successful troll in ST, and maybe internet history.

[Wild Cobra]

such a thing basically did happen.

But not because medical attention was delayed.

[Wild Cobra]

This entire thread, in terms of the OP's title, and concept, is so incredulously indicative of mental retardation that I am suddenly afraid WC is the most successful troll in ST, and maybe internet history.
Wow...

If I have mental retardation, what would you call the majority of posters here who are worse than me?

[Blake]

But not because medical attention was delayed.

what exactly were the injuries to this motorcycle rider?

what is the exact amount of time needed to get a man from the scene of this particular accident to the hospital with these particular injuries to save him from dying?

[Blake]

Wow...

If I have mental retardation, what would you call the majority of posters here who are worse than me?

majority?

:lol

[clambake]

you are a self admitted bipolar.

run with it.....and entertain us.

[Gutter92]

Oh, he killed someone...well, seeing he is a man in power, I predict only probation.

[baseline bum]

Wow...

If I have mental retardation, what would you call the majority of posters here who are worse than me?

I'd call them by their names: DarrinS and Yonivore.

[Gutter92]

I'd call them by their names: DarrinS and Yonivore.
:lol

[Winehole23]

Wow...

If I have mental retardation, what would you call the majority of posters here who are worse than me?Pre-tards? :lmao

[ElNono]

I'd call them by their names: DarrinS and Yonivore.

:lol

[Cry Havoc]

Wow...

If I have mental retardation, what would you call the majority of posters here who are worse than me?

You're obviously intelligent, but sometimes you say really unintentionally hilarious stuff, WC.

I mean, come on, you even admitted you weren't really serious with this thread, yet you're defending it in places. :lol

[possessed]

:lmao

LAWL!!!!!!!!!!!111 HE WERKS FOR A LIVING!

ROTFLMFAO :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Gutter92]

LAWL!!!!!!!!!!!111 HE WERKS FOR A LIVING!

ROTFLMFAO :lmao :lmao :lmao
:lmao

[Wild Cobra]

what exactly were the injuries to this motorcycle rider?

what is the exact amount of time needed to get a man from the scene of this particular accident to the hospital with these particular injuries to save him from dying?
No dammit, to the scene. There was no medical attention in time because of the motorcade.

[Blake]

No dammit, to the scene. There was no medical attention in time because of the motorcade.

the crash happened Wednesday at 6p.m. and he was pronounced dead on Thursday morning, dammit.

Exactly what medical attention was he denied that could have saved his life?

What is the specific time needed to get to a person with these types of injuries?

[Wild Cobra]

the crash happened Wednesday at 6p.m. and he was pronounced dead on Thursday morning, dammit.

Exactly what medical attention was he denied that could have saved his life?

What is the specific time needed to get to a person with these types of injuries?
When an ambulance is delayed to the scene of a serious accident, the likelihood of survival diminishes. Just that simple. If you cannot understand that simple concept, then I give up.

[Cry Havoc]

When an ambulance is delayed to the scene of a serious accident, the likelihood of survival diminishes. Just that simple. If you cannot understand that simple concept, then I give up.

We call that situation "Unfortunate circumstances", not "Obama's fault".

[Wild Cobra]

We call that situation "Unfortunate circumstances", not "Obama's fault".
If you reread my OP, does it really come across as me blaming him? I was pointing out liberal absurdity by doing the same, only I never insistent it was Obama's fault. Yes, it's an unfortunate circumstance. I implied in a later post, that if a man died under the same circumstances for a Bush motorcade, the liberals would be all over him killing a man.

Do you disagree it would have been treated differently for a different president?

Now don't go back to that other example cited. He didn't have the same delayed ambulance to the scene.

[George Gervin's Afro]

If you reread my OP, does it really come across as me blaming him? I was pointing out liberal absurdity by doing the same, only I never insistent it was Obama's fault. Yes, it's an unfortunate circumstance. I implied in a later post, that if a man died under the same circumstances for a Bush motorcade, the liberals would be all over him killing a man.

Do you disagree it would have been treated differently for a different president?

Now don't go back to that other example cited. He didn't have the same delayed ambulance to the scene.

No, liberals would not call/ imply bush is a killer in this scenerio..

[Wild Cobra]

No, liberals would not call/ imply bush is a killer in this scenerio..
OK, we agree our opinions differ here.

[Cry Havoc]

If you reread my OP, does it really come across as me blaming him?

"Re: Obama kills a man while in Oregon"


I implied in a later post, that if a man died under the same circumstances for a Bush motorcade, the liberals would be all over him killing a man.

Do you disagree it would have been treated differently for a different president?

Uh, yes, I disagree. I'm not going to blame Bush because some idiot wasn't paying attention while riding his donorcycle around.

Can you not at least admit that there are much more important matters to be discussing, or at least complaining about? You're just painfully transparent here. It reminds me of those iPod threads, where you all were desperately trying to dig anything up you could to sling at him.

Hasn't Obama given you plenty of ammo thus far? Making a thread like this is like turning down AK-47s in favor of water pistols. It's a non-issue and you would be best served by moving on and spending your time on things that matter.

[Blake]

When an ambulance is delayed to the scene of a serious accident, the likelihood of survival diminishes. Just that simple. If you cannot understand that simple concept, then I give up.

how do you know he was going to survive at all?

[Wild Cobra]

how do you know he was going to survive at all?
The local reports. The Oregonian is a liberal biased paper too.

[Winehole23]

A link to the local reports would be nice.

[Wild Cobra]

A link to the local reports would be nice.
I looked before posting, but didn't find it. The online version I found was different than the hardcopy I read.

Here's their site if you want to look:

Oregonian (http://www.oregonlive.com/)

[Blake]

If you reread my OP, does it really come across as me blaming him?

lol thread title


I implied in a later post, that if a man died under the same circumstances for a Bush motorcade, the liberals would be all over him killing a man.

dammit, a motorcycle cop DID die in a similar instance in a Bush motorcade in 2007, dammit.

goddammit, I asked you if the liberals were all over it. You obviously don't know, godfuckindammit.


Do you disagree it would have been treated differently for a different president?

Until proven otherwise, there is no reason to make such an assumption unless you are a polarized nutjob.


Now don't go back to that other example cited. He didn't have the same delayed ambulance to the scene.

What was the response time for this current incident?

What was the response time for the cop killed in 2007?

Why is it that the cop in 2007 still died, even though you are claiming that the ambulance response time was better?

Were the injuries perfectly identical in both cases?

What would have been the appropriate response time to save the man's life for this current incident?

[Winehole23]

@WC: You could transcribe the hard copy. Bet it's not that long.

[Wild Cobra]

lol thread title

It's called a teaser. The rest is explained.

[Blake]

I looked before posting, but didn't find it. The online version I found was different than the hardcopy I read.

Here's their site if you want to look:

Oregonian (http://www.oregonlive.com/)

so you really don't know if he was going to survive or not.

are you trying to be a troll or are you going to fall back into the standard WC line of "I just know what I saw/heard/read and I don't have the time to spend to back it up. You look it up if you don't believe me."

[Wild Cobra]

@WC: You could transcribe the hard copy. Bet it's not that long.
The paper was at work, and would be gone now. I don't subscribe to it. I work tonight, but I'll bet it will be gone. It was last weeks paper, and we never have a weeks worth. Only three days tops.

[Blake]

@WC: You could transcribe the hard copy. Bet it's not that long.

he's going to claim he's too busy to back up the claim.

[Blake]

It's called a teaser. The rest is explained.

That's not a teaser. It's a lie.

You've explained the rest very poorly. You say you are just trolling but then you obviously really aren't.

Looks to me that when you posted this thread, you really felt (apparently still feel) that Obama is indirectly responsible for this man's death.

[Wild Cobra]

That's not a teaser. It's a lie.

You've explained the rest very poorly. You say you are just trolling but then you obviously really aren't.

Looks to me that when you posted this thread, you really felt (apparently still feel) that Obama is indirectly responsible for this man's death.
Believe as you want. I don't care what bigots like you think.

Bye.

[Blake]

Believe as you want. I don't care what bigots like you think.

Bye.

bigot? :lol

You're even more full of lies and misinformation than normal today.

You have failed to answer yet again what the approprate response time should have been in order to save his life.

I believe you stated that ambulance reponse time was delayed because of Obama's motorcade, implying that he is indirectly responsible.

I believe you will continue to fail to answer the question(s) regarding proper response time.

I also believe that in the future, your hate for Obama and the liberals will directly cause you to post mean, hateful and bigoted posts against liberals.

I believe your good bye will be short lived.