Pledge of Allegiance, Democrat style [Archive]

ChumpDumper

10-25-2010, 12:39 PM

Here is the original pledge:

I pledge allegiance to my Flag and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Written by a socialist.

ChumpDumper

10-25-2010, 12:42 PM

It also called for this salute:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Pledge_salue.jpg

clambake

10-25-2010, 12:43 PM

that was a quick kill........don't you agree, darrin?

balli

10-25-2010, 12:43 PM

Do you admire his sweepingly idiotic generalizations? Are you tickled by his complete lack of critical or original thought? Do you just love youtube videos? DarrinS ladies and gents. The one and only. A true idiot, standing up for the viewing pleasure of rubes everywhere. He'll be here all month.

Jekka

10-25-2010, 12:47 PM

Didn't this happen in 2002? Have you been waiting for the video all this time?

ChumpDumper

10-25-2010, 12:51 PM

It seems funny that a Baptist minister wouldn't include the words "under God" in a pledge he composed, but it probably isn't.

It is funny that the usage of "under God" that was tacked on over 60 years later and over 20 years after the author's death is probably grammatically incorrect.

Mark in Austin

10-25-2010, 04:57 PM

I don't really have a problem with the pledge, but if I had a choice I would much rather be pledging allegiance to the constitution than to the flag - seems a little more important and substantial:

I pledge allegiance
to the constitution
of the Unitied States of America.

And to the Republic
created by its prose.
One nation, united,
with liberty and justice for all.

Spurminator

10-25-2010, 05:00 PM

:lmao

Spurminator

10-25-2010, 05:23 PM

Wow, this is ALL OVER the internet today.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Betty+McCollum+omits+%22Under+God%22+from+Pledge +of+Allegiance

A video from 2002. Gosh, do you think this might be some kind of organized viral campaign? I wonder if she's in a heated contest for re-election?

Get outraged!!! Rabble rabble rabble rabble

Winehole23

10-25-2010, 05:27 PM

A loyalty oath is for feudal vassals not free republican citizens. We can probably do without it.

fyatuk

10-25-2010, 10:05 PM

A loyalty oath is for feudal vassals not free republican citizens. We can probably do without it.

Agreed. I stopped saying the pledge in elementary school when I learned the definition of "pledge" and remembered we're a free country.

It's fair to apply to military or the government, but not really to the general citizenry.

Spurminator

10-25-2010, 10:39 PM

Way to do your part DarrinS. Your support for the Team is appreciated.

Winehole23

10-26-2010, 03:39 AM

It's fair to apply to military or the government, but not really to the general citizenry.Sure. Agree 100%.

Public service involves a oath of honor.

jack sommerset

10-26-2010, 07:39 AM

This guy knows what the pledge means.

LPbIls0iOnI

DarrinS

10-26-2010, 08:37 AM

Damn. Dems really hate the Pledge.

tEjRg2yyCKo

Spurminator

10-26-2010, 09:25 AM

My Patriotism is bigger than yours!

fraga

10-26-2010, 09:26 AM

Good lord...you're really reaching now...

ChumpDumper

10-26-2010, 12:35 PM

It is kind of stupid when you think about it -- pledging loyalty to a piece of cloth.

DarrinS

10-26-2010, 12:37 PM

It is kind of stupid when you think about it -- pledging loyalty to a piece of cloth.

And the Constitution is just a piece of paper.

ChumpDumper

10-26-2010, 12:47 PM

And the Constitution is just a piece of paper.Are you loyal to a piece of cloth, Darrin?

Yes or no.

Spurminator

10-26-2010, 01:20 PM

The Constitution is a document of fundamental ideas and rules whose purpose is to protect the freedoms of the citizens of this country. In THEORY, as long as the Constitution is not changed or diverted from, our freedoms and our way of life in this country remain protected.

The flag is a symbol. It can stay the same regardless of what rights and liberties are protected for us. We could fall to Fascists or Communists and the flag could remain exactly as it is now. It holds no power and does not inherently protect any of our liberty.

The Pledge is basically indoctrination to mindless patriotism. It's not really harmful, but it's not necessarily valuable either except as a hot button for people who want to bicker about how and when it is performed every, oh, two years around this time.

ChumpDumper

10-26-2010, 01:23 PM

Darrin pledges unwavering fealty to a poly-cotton blend.

clambake

10-26-2010, 02:33 PM

darrin types with his hand over his heart.

ChumpDumper

10-26-2010, 02:38 PM

More accurately over his shirt, to which he also declares his fidelity and obedience.

clambake

10-26-2010, 02:39 PM

i picture his shirt as being a tommy bahama knockoff.

ChumpDumper

10-26-2010, 02:42 PM

He has a patent on those.

Stringer_Bell

10-26-2010, 04:24 PM

Would it have been better in the eyes of the Idiocracy if she just lied and pledged allegiance to a country "under God." She clearly omitted the phrase, but that's hardly "anti-American." It's dumb as fuck to go after this woman for not swearing "under God," that shit reminds me more of Muslim theorcracies than American.

Week after week, "conservatives" find ways to make our country look worse and worse.

DarrinS

10-26-2010, 06:23 PM

ChumpDumper

10-26-2010, 06:26 PM

Are you loyal to a piece of cloth, Darrin?

Yes or no.

Summers

10-26-2010, 08:04 PM

Damn. Dems really hate the Pledge.

tEjRg2yyCKo

If we're extrapolating sweeping generalizations based on one-minute videos... Damn. Republicans really can't spell.

DarrinS

10-26-2010, 08:43 PM

If we're extrapolating sweeping generalizations based on one-minute videos... Damn. Republicans really can't spell.

What are you talking about?

MannyIsGod

10-26-2010, 08:50 PM

What are you talking about?

English is hard.

Summers

10-26-2010, 09:06 PM

What are you talking about?

He misspelled the name of his own state... for which he is seeking office. Jus' sayin'.

CuckingFunt

10-26-2010, 09:36 PM

I pledge allegiance to Jasper Johns...

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3179/sw1413.jpg

Wild Cobra

10-26-2010, 11:03 PM

This guy knows what the pledge means.

LPbIls0iOnI
Yes, I always loved his work, and his pledge. Too bad so many people from within want to destroy this nation.

Wild Cobra

10-26-2010, 11:05 PM

i picture his shirt as being a tommy bahama knockoff.
What do you do with your off hand? Never using capitals, what are you doing?

Winehole23

10-27-2010, 01:02 AM

Yes, I always loved his work, and his pledge. Too bad so many people from within want to destroy this nation. The libruls, the queers and the GOT-dam democrats done ruined damn near everything, didnt they?

Winehole23

10-27-2010, 01:14 AM

Our young continue to swear out oaths of honor at schools which inculcate nationalism in lieu of other reliable instruction -- or possibly even contrary to the values of the involved adults.

Ain't technocracy great?

Stringer_Bell

10-27-2010, 01:24 AM

And Liberals make our country look better and better.

:lmao

I agree with your reaction, and I should have put a clause in my post like "not that Liberals are any better," but I figured most people know I don't play the one-sided game. Still, for being the people running on "values," the GOP and its proxies are shit out of "values" at this point. I don't know what Liberals run on, can't say I pay enough attention but I assume "Hey, at least we're not Republicans" works for most people with a brain and know they only have a choice between left or right.

Yes, I always loved his work, and his pledge. Too bad so many people from within want to destroy this nation.

I like it too, but the start of his recitation sounds pretty fucking socialist to me. I don't see anything wrong with it, but people that cry blood out of their eyes any time they hear the word "socialist" and "unity" and "america" in the same speech...they might have some trouble wrapping their pin-sized heads around it.

Winehole23

10-27-2010, 01:25 AM

We weren't nearly nationalistic enough for a christian socialist of the early 20th century and our grandparents and great-grandparents apparently agreed with him, so we are forever saddled with the clunky loyalty oath he devised to keep us all in line.

Winehole23

10-27-2010, 01:29 AM

Three thumbs down to the sentimental recrudescence (http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=19827) of liege law. Srsly.

Wild Cobra

10-27-2010, 02:15 AM

The libruls, the queers and the GOT-dam democrats done ruined damn near everything, didnt they?
Just those who insist on the government obtaining "other people's money" for their cause.

Winehole23

10-27-2010, 03:10 AM

That's very chastely and moderately expressed, amigo. Thanks for preserving the genial tone. :tu

Winehole23

10-27-2010, 03:13 AM

Tangent the tangent. Why not?

RandomGuy

10-27-2010, 07:35 AM

Too bad so many people from within want to destroy this nation.

Yes, and they have a political party even. I believe it is called the Republican Party or something.

:p:

RandomGuy

10-27-2010, 07:41 AM

And Liberals make our country look better and better.

:lmao

People who measure how the US is perceived in the rest of the world can actually put a dollar value in terms of trade dollars per % point of approval.

Conservative unilateralists such as John Bolton and company, really did a number on US popularity in the rest of the world.

While you might not particularly care what the rest of the world thinks of the US, if you were running an exporting company trying to crack into a foreign market it would suddenly be a rather crystal clear cause/effect.

RandomGuy

10-27-2010, 07:43 AM

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You do know that the League of Women voters is not party affiliated, don't you?

(shakes head)

Conservafail.

fyatuk

10-27-2010, 07:58 AM

Yes, and they have a political party even. I believe it is called the Republican Party or something.

There are several of them... Republican Party, Democratic Party, Libertarian Party, Green Party. Basically anything with Party in it's name (except maybe Pizza Party, but that does contribute to the growing obesity problem, so I'd say even them). ;)

Vote the Man/Woman/Thing from the Abyss, not the Party!

DarrinS

10-27-2010, 08:07 AM

People who measure how the US is perceived in the rest of the world can actually put a dollar value in terms of trade dollars per % point of approval.

Conservative unilateralists such as John Bolton and company, really did a number on US popularity in the rest of the world.

While you might not particularly care what the rest of the world thinks of the US, if you were running an exporting company trying to crack into a foreign market it would suddenly be a rather crystal clear cause/effect.

China loves us now.

DarrinS

10-27-2010, 08:07 AM

You do know that the League of Women voters is not party affiliated, don't you?

(shakes head)

Conservafail.

That's kinda the point.

RandomGuyFail

RandomGuy

10-27-2010, 08:30 AM

China loves us now.

Do you think the data showing that US popularity is directly related to trade levels is wrong?

RandomGuy

10-27-2010, 08:32 AM

That's kinda the point.

RandomGuyFail

The title of the thread implies something about the Democratic party, yes or no?

You tell me, what is the thrust of the OP. Use your own words, so I can understand what it is you are trying to say.

TeyshaBlue

10-27-2010, 09:20 AM

The title of the thread implies something about the Democratic party, yes or no?

You tell me, what is the thrust of the OP. Use your own words, so I can understand what it is you are trying to say.

An irrational OP cannot be clarified. Darrinfail.

Cry Havoc

10-27-2010, 09:35 AM

This guy knows what the pledge means.

LPbIls0iOnI

I wonder what Mr. Skelton would think of Fox News's hate-filled fear-mongering spin doctrine that they inject into their daily programming.

My guess is, that fundamental desire to break from unity, to form a chasm in the American populace, to segment people and turn the public into a "you vs. me" black and white baseline would anger him far, far more than any omittance of a couple of words from a comparatively meaningless pledge to a flag.

The importance of principles and actions would likely far outweigh the attention to repeated ceremony in his eyes. But of course, that's just silly conjecture on my part.