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DesignatedT
10-25-2010, 06:13 PM
Baylor going into Austin ranked #25 in the nation. Texas should bounce back nice though IMO.

Horns: 31
Bears: 21

Obstructed_View
10-26-2010, 12:55 AM
I think Texas will put up two or three extra scores late to make it look worse as Baylor fades. Also, Baylor can't stop anyone.

Texas 51 Baylor 30

Winehole23
10-26-2010, 01:58 AM
Cranky orangebloods will vindictively point at the third straight home loss as justifying the end of the Garrett Gilbert era, but surely they underestimate the cold bloodedness of Mack Brown and a Texas coaching staff that understands only too well what has only just started to dawn on Hornfan:



this is a rebuilding year for Longhorn football.

Winehole23
10-26-2010, 02:08 AM
Baylor 40

t-sips 27

johngateswhiteley
10-26-2010, 02:19 AM
I just can not see t.u. losing this one, though it would be great.

t.u. 46
bears 29

LoneStarState'sPride
10-26-2010, 08:53 AM
The worst thing that could've happened to baylor was t.u. getting beat by ISU last week. bu coming in ranked just throws another log on the fire.

texas is terrible this year, but pride simply does not allow them to lose 3 straight at dkr.

t-sips 49
cubbies 17

Halberto
10-26-2010, 11:38 AM
I think Texas will put up two or three extra scores late to make it look worse as Baylor fades. Also, Baylor can't stop anyone.

Texas 51 Baylor 30

Mack Brown didn't even do that when he was trying to get into the BCS championship, so I doubt he'll do that.

I think Texas will force some turnovers and run the ball twice as often.


31-14 Texas

DesignatedT
10-26-2010, 12:17 PM
I think Baylor can keep it fairly close.

samikeyp
10-26-2010, 12:23 PM
24-21 ut

Obstructed_View
10-26-2010, 12:27 PM
Mack Brown didn't even do that when he was trying to get into the BCS championship, so I doubt he'll do that.

I think Texas will force some turnovers and run the ball twice as often.


31-14 Texas

I didn't mean to imply that Mack would run up the score, but there's a lot less pressure when you're trying to get into the BCS championship than when you're not winning in Austin. I wouldn't put it past him by any stretch. That said, Baylor will gift UT a couple of scores.

blkroadrunners
10-26-2010, 12:42 PM
Horns 35
Bears 25

dallasmavsnfuego214
10-26-2010, 03:10 PM
I think Baylor will be able to pull it off. I've been really impressed with the way they can move the ball on almost anybody. The Baylor D is still at lol Baylor levels however. This will definitely be a shootout

Baylor 42
Texas 38

coyotes_geek
10-26-2010, 04:55 PM
As much as I'd love to see Baylor pull this off, I think they'll get run.

texas - 45
baylor - 27

Blake
10-26-2010, 07:50 PM
UT 31
Baylor 10

Obstructed_View
10-26-2010, 09:32 PM
I think Baylor can keep it fairly close.

Hopefully by scoring a lot. Baylor's defense stops nobody.

RedRaider
10-27-2010, 11:12 PM
Texas D comes out fired up and beats BU.

Horns: 28
BU: 17

Cant_Be_Faded
10-27-2010, 11:35 PM
No fucking way we put up more than 30 points even on Baylor.

ISU's defense was like 200000th in the nation and we could not do shit against them and remain horrible in the red zone.

Only chance we have to win is if we somehow incorporate DJ Monroe to the offense, and the defense plays inspired ball for all 4 quarters.

Obstructed_View
10-28-2010, 06:37 AM
No fucking way we put up more than 30 points even on Baylor.

ISU's defense was like 200000th in the nation and we could not do shit against them and remain horrible in the red zone.

Only chance we have to win is if we somehow incorporate DJ Monroe to the offense, and the defense plays inspired ball for all 4 quarters.

Don't underestimate Baylor's capacity for making an offense look good. :lol

MajorMike
10-29-2010, 08:04 PM
UT completely rips Lady a new hoo-hoo and BU is lucky to win another game the rest of the year.

UT 52
BU 27 (on the strength of some late TDs)

Cant_Be_Faded
10-30-2010, 06:05 PM
Here we go.

Mista Acho. Meet. Mista Griffin.


http://ymswwc.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/ap_jackson_keith_060428_sp.jpg


TEXAS FIGHT!!!!

Cant_Be_Faded
10-30-2010, 06:17 PM
Mista Acho with 1 sack, and 1 allowed illegal forced fumble, 1 recovered fumble so far.


Hell yeah.

Cant_Be_Faded
10-30-2010, 07:00 PM
Texas gets another bullshit call. Bailed out by the refs result of review is a touchback.

leemajors
10-30-2010, 09:20 PM
you'd think they would try and get out of the bed with all the shit in it

Kermit
10-30-2010, 10:13 PM
Greg Davis is not our standard.

And apparently, neither is any other player or coach associated with the program right now. Way to go guys.

Cant_Be_Faded
10-30-2010, 10:46 PM
Silver Lining:

Mack Brown and Greg Davis are gone after this season.

Enough with the rich old conservative coaches we need young less rich coaches who actually want to make a name for themselves.

Muschamp Era Coming :smokin

Winehole23
10-31-2010, 04:49 AM
One more year.

Old boys are cold-blooded. One more year of Mack Brown and Greg Davis's systematic de-coaching of football talent at Texas, so they can go out on top or have a chance to.

Winehole23
10-31-2010, 04:58 AM
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Winehole23
10-31-2010, 05:36 AM
OTOH, is this the year Mack hands GD his resignation papers and Belmont Hall releases a statement on GD's behalf announcing his imminent retirement?

Cant_Be_Faded
10-31-2010, 09:46 AM
I kept telling mookie after Colt's shoulder lost us the last championship that programs can die overnight.
Ohio State is the only team in recent history with the ability to constantly rebound and stay alive over time after losing high level talent.

That national championship bloading is going to haunt us for years.

Obstructed_View
10-31-2010, 04:32 PM
:elephant:elephant:elephant:elephant

Sorry, guys, but I don't get to do this very often.

:elephant:elephant:elephant:elephant

Cant_Be_Faded
10-31-2010, 04:38 PM
Baylor is a good team. Meh defense but that offense is legit. Almost every WR that touched the ball seemed capable of doing a little something after the catch, that Finley running back has a wicked burst and a good nose for the seams.

RG3 is not the athlete he was prior to surgery, it's obvious. But he can still burn you when you're sleeping on him (see the 4th quarter when Texas was trying to hold them and RG3 busted a 20 yard run out of nowhere).

RG3 always was an underrated passer and with these WR's and that RB that offense is legit. I was impressed and actually wish Baylor nothing but the best on the remainder of their schedule. Let's hope they can keep up their cohesiveness against OU and Aggie.

Nothing pisses me off more than a team that brings a good fight against UT and shits their pants like babies against OU.

DesignatedT
10-31-2010, 04:48 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao

The Reckoning
10-31-2010, 05:18 PM
i think its funny that even though UT is as bad as it's ever been, every team that beats them thinks it's some kind of bowl win (except Nebraska, lol). i guess it's a good thing.

LoneStarState'sPride
10-31-2010, 05:22 PM
Well. Fuck. A. Duck.

Did not see that coming (although I should have--hindsight 20/20 blah blah blah....). Seriously t.u.?

OTOH, congrats to Baylor--y'all officially have my attention now.

tlongII
10-31-2010, 06:32 PM
I have to admit that I'm absolutely SHOCKED that Texas is as bad as they are right now. It's mind boggling to me.

johngateswhiteley
10-31-2010, 09:18 PM
I agree, but its pretty damn funny. I hope A&M goes in there and curb stomps that ass in Austin.

Winehole23
10-31-2010, 09:32 PM
I agree, but its pretty damn funny. I hope A&M goes in there and curb stomps that ass in Austin.Beating A&M is the only good thing left for Texas this season. I hope we have something left for Texas A&M after two very likely road losses.

I see one probable win for Texas in the next four games. Hope it's against the Aggies.







(Prove me wrong, Texas football!)

Obstructed_View
11-01-2010, 01:07 PM
i think its funny that even though UT is as bad as it's ever been, every team that beats them thinks it's some kind of bowl win (except Nebraska, lol). i guess it's a good thing.

Go check the record since 1901. It IS like a bowl game for Baylor. Last time they beat UT in Waco they carried the goalpost all the way back to campus.

Sisk
11-01-2010, 02:18 PM
i think its funny that even though UT is as bad as it's ever been, every team that beats them thinks it's some kind of bowl win (except Nebraska, lol). i guess it's a good thing.

I love how every t-sip thinks this is how every team feels only about them. Every team is happy to beat any other team, especially if they're in the same conference and state.

LoneStarState'sPride
11-01-2010, 02:25 PM
Go check the record since 1901. It IS like a bowl game for Baylor. Last time they beat UT in Waco they carried the goalpost all the way back to campus.

Is BU ever going to get that on-campus stadium? Used to hate having to drive to Valley Mills to get to FCS.

Obstructed_View
11-01-2010, 02:41 PM
That's probably the next step. The campus used to look pretty ratty but they've done a good job of making all the buildings match over the last ten years. I don't know where they'd put it though; there's a river in the way. :)

The Reckoning
11-01-2010, 02:42 PM
I love how every t-sip thinks this is how every team feels only about them. Every team is happy to beat any other team, especially if they're in the same conference and state.


sorry senor, but what are the lyrics to the aggie fight song again?

so long as they remain so, you have no argument.

DesignatedT
11-01-2010, 02:48 PM
Baylor loses out tbh. Still a nice season they put together though.

Obstructed_View
11-01-2010, 03:17 PM
Any win going forward is gravy. A&M is better than UT, so it wouldn't surprise me if they don't win another game.

Sisk
11-01-2010, 03:19 PM
sorry senor, but what are the lyrics to the aggie fight song again?

so long as they remain so, you have no argument.

"The Aggie War Hymn"

Hullabaloo, Caneck! Caneck!
Hullabaloo, Caneck! Caneck!
All hail to dear old Texas A & M,
Rally around the Maroon and White,
Good luck to the dear old Texas Aggies,
They are the boys who show the real old fight.
That good old Aggie spirit thrills us
And makes us yell and yell and yell;
So let's fight for dear old Texas A & M,
We're goin' beat you all to--
Chig-gar-roo-gar-rem!
Chig-gar-roo-gar-rem!
Rough! Tough! Real Stuff! Texas A & M!

Hullabaloo, Caneck! Caneck!
Hullabaloo, Caneck! Caneck!
Good-bye to Texas University
So long to the Orange and the White
Good luck to the dear old Texas Aggies
They are the boys that show the real old fight
"The eyes of Texas are upon you..."
That is the song they sing so well
So good-bye to Texas University
We're going to beat you all to--
Chig-gar-roo-gar-rem
Chig-gar-roo-gar-rem
Rough Tough! Real Stuff! Texas A & M!

Saw Varsity's horns off!
Saw Varsity's horns off!
Saw Varsity's horns off!
SHORT! Ay!

Varsity's horns are sawed off!
Varsity's horns are sawed off!
Varsity's horns are sawed off!
SHORT! Ayyyyyy!









Beating a rival is obviously a big deal. You're saying you're not excited when your school beats A&M? Rival victories are always the best. When it comes to Baylor beating tu in Austin, that's a big deal since it hasn't happened in... I don't even know

Also, "Texas Fight, Texas Fight,
And it's goodbye to A&M."

Obstructed_View
11-01-2010, 03:39 PM
Rival victories are always the best. When it comes to Baylor beating tu in Austin, that's a big deal since it hasn't happened in... I don't even know

13 years.

Must be a big deal getting beat by Baylor since some UT fans are hurt about it. Any conference win is a good one to me, even if I didn't root for a team that has won so few in recent years.

AFBlue
11-01-2010, 03:59 PM
That's probably the next step. The campus used to look pretty ratty but they've done a good job of making all the buildings match over the last ten years. I don't know where they'd put it though; there's a river in the way. :)

They bought land on the other side of the river, east of I-35, so it shouldn't be long before they've expanded their campus...to include a football stadium.

samikeyp
11-01-2010, 04:01 PM
I love how every t-sip thinks this is how every team feels only about them. Every team is happy to beat any other team, especially if they're in the same conference and state.

Sad to say, quite a few of my fellow Longhorns are feeling this way. Me personally, they get what they what they deserve for playing like shit. No tears shed, just disgust.

AFBlue
11-01-2010, 04:02 PM
Been deployed, so it's been hard to keep up with each game, but I'm very impressed with what the Bears have done this year. RG3 is healthy and the conference is weaker than it's been in a while, so it's kind of a perfect storm...but hey, when you've won as little as the Bears have since the creation of the big 12, you'll take it!

Also, is it just me or has Jay Finley come out of nowhere to be a home-run kind of feature back?

Obstructed_View
11-01-2010, 04:03 PM
They bought land on the other side of the river, east of I-35, so it shouldn't be long before they've expanded their campus...to include a football stadium.

Awesome. Guess that means no Ferrell Center parking though.

johngateswhiteley
11-01-2010, 05:29 PM
sorry senor, but what are the lyrics to the aggie fight song again?

so long as they remain so, you have no argument.

why do so many bring this up? its a lame argument.

1. A&M is in t.u.'s song
2. its called passion and camaraderie

...I love the spirit.

The Reckoning
11-01-2010, 06:13 PM
lmao one line to make up aggie's entire song.

im bitter because i witnessed iowa state fans cheering "ISU" in the closing minutes of the game when a UT player was down...also i have every one of my baylor friends leaving me voicemails about how bad UT sucks. not to mention all the aggies in my family going fucking nuts right now. they don't invite me to thanksgiving anymore because of it.

sure im excited when UT beats a&m, but its more of picking on a little brother. the OU game is what i get riled about (unless OU blows like no other...then i expect a win.)

what i should have said is that i find it funny that mostly every team in the Big XII (and u of arkansas) consider UT some sort of number one rival whereas UT really only gives a shit about OU and a little shit about aggie.

so aggie and arkansas are like "wait a second, UT is caring less and less about us :depressed, so let's play each other!"

brettn
11-01-2010, 06:34 PM
Also, is it just me or has Jay Finley come out of nowhere to be a home-run kind of feature back?

He had a pretty strong sophomore season. He had an ankle injury last year against UConn that basically ended his season though. He didn't come back till after RG3 went down and that obviously didn't go well.

He's a good RB though and he's definitely benefited from the more balanced offense this year and of course having RG3 in the backfield again. I just wouldn't say he's come completely out of nowhere.

Also, regarding RG3 I think it's reasonable to assume that he's lost a step or whatever after the surgery, but from what I understand he's been making a bigger effort to develop his arm and pocket presence in an attempt to make himself more NFL ready. That would explain why his first reaction doesn't seem to be to run as much this season.

Sisk
11-01-2010, 06:43 PM
lmao one line to make up aggie's entire song.

im bitter because i witnessed iowa state fans cheering "ISU" in the closing minutes of the game when a UT player was down...also i have every one of my baylor friends leaving me voicemails about how bad UT sucks. not to mention all the aggies in my family going fucking nuts right now. they don't invite me to thanksgiving anymore because of it.

sure im excited when UT beats a&m, but its more of picking on a little brother. the OU game is what i get riled about (unless OU blows like no other...then i expect a win.)

what i should have said is that i find it funny that mostly every team in the Big XII (and u of arkansas) consider UT some sort of number one rival whereas UT really only gives a shit about OU and a little shit about aggie.

so aggie and arkansas are like "wait a second, UT is caring less and less about us :depressed, so let's play each other!"

:lmao:lmao:lmao

yJJEyyZadJQ

How quickly you forget.. always acting like yall have won every game this last decade. A&M is the reason the Big 12 is even around still.. t-sip bitching that A&M wanted to leave to the SEC threatening yall wouldn't even play us.. :lol:lol

But we're butthurt? :rollin

"If you leave we wont play you anymore :cry:cry:cry:cry"

The Reckoning
11-01-2010, 07:03 PM
How quickly you forget.. always acting like yall have won every game this last decade. A&M is the reason the Big 12 is even around still.. t-sip bitching that A&M wanted to leave to the SEC threatening yall wouldn't even play us..



bullshit. now youre just speculating. UT negotiated to bring in cash flow for ou, aggie, and itself. you know damn well UT is the reason why the Big XII stuck together. like i said, it's like a big brother, little brother relationship.

Sisk
11-01-2010, 07:31 PM
bullshit. now youre just speculating. UT negotiated to bring in cash flow for ou, aggie, and itself. you know damn well UT is the reason why the Big XII stuck together. like i said, it's like a big brother, little brother relationship.

:lmao

Thanksgiving 2010

MajorMike
11-01-2010, 07:45 PM
Look, I hate to give anyone else credit, but everyone else but aggy sees it - the rest of the B12 did exactly what UT told them to. After Neb was going to go, CU was worried about getting left out in the whole P10 deal, so they jumped the gun.

UT was joined at the hip with OSU and uo; Dodds promised Holder he would not leave him and Boren and Hargis pledged to do what the other one did. Once the P10 said that UT could not have their own network, the deal with them was over.

Meanwhile, back at the cult, atm was pissed because UT was running the show and that they would forever be in their burnt orange shadow, so they intertained moving to the SEC. If you read insider accounts, it was never anything for real more than talk, as the SEC actually wanted uo and not atm. However that was enough to make the media frenzy look like atm was as good as gone (the same media that reported that OSU and ttek had already accepted spots to the P10).

B12 was staying regardless of what atm did, but when they were told they would get some of the CU/NU money they came back like a cockroach to spilled honey. Their AD is so far in debt that there was no way they could have afforded the penalties moving to the SEC. In reality, the only reason they entertained going to the SEC was because they knew if the B12 folded they wouldn't have to pay. Their mind was made up for them when the B12 announced it would stay together and they were able to call themselves saviors in their own mind, when the rest of the world just shakes their head and says, "Sad" when they do it.

Obstructed_View
11-01-2010, 07:46 PM
Yeah A&M and UT don't have a rivalry or anything, but they take over a Baylor thread. :lol

Cant_Be_Faded
11-01-2010, 07:54 PM
hahahahahaha aggies are living it up right now


What is funny is that even with Tannyhill taking snaps, all this UT abysmal play actually insures the fact that we will destroy A&M come Thanksgiving. Instead of that game being A&M's bowl game, the tables will be turned and it's going to be OUR bowl game. Instead of your players playing like their lives depend on beating UT, it will be OUR players playing like their futures depend on beating aggie.

UT sucking this much ass bodes bad for A&M only a blind homer with no sense of history would think otherwise.

Had UT not won at Nebraska, I wouldn't be saying this. But its no doubt the talent is there to be at least DECENT. This abysmal piss poor play is the coaches losing the team. But one thing those kids will get up for is the thought about being humiliated by Aggie.

LOL

DesignatedT
11-01-2010, 08:49 PM
Look, I hate to give anyone else credit, but everyone else but aggy sees it - the rest of the B12 did exactly what UT told them to. After Neb was going to go, CU was worried about getting left out in the whole P10 deal, so they jumped the gun.

UT was joined at the hip with OSU and uo; Dodds promised Holder he would not leave him and Boren and Hargis pledged to do what the other one did. Once the P10 said that UT could not have their own network, the deal with them was over.

Meanwhile, back at the cult, atm was pissed because UT was running the show and that they would forever be in their burnt orange shadow, so they intertained moving to the SEC. If you read insider accounts, it was never anything for real more than talk, as the SEC actually wanted uo and not atm. However that was enough to make the media frenzy look like atm was as good as gone (the same media that reported that OSU and ttek had already accepted spots to the P10).

B12 was staying regardless of what atm did, but when they were told they would get some of the CU/NU money they came back like a cockroach to spilled honey. Their AD is so far in debt that there was no way they could have afforded the penalties moving to the SEC. In reality, the only reason they entertained going to the SEC was because they knew if the B12 folded they wouldn't have to pay. Their mind was made up for them when the B12 announced it would stay together and they were able to call themselves saviors in their own mind, when the rest of the world just shakes their head and says, "Sad" when they do it.

Not sure where you were going with this but if Texas did indeed jump ship to the pac "16" (which 1 reason they didn't was because A&M wasn't on board) than A&M would not have joined them.

Yes, obviously if Texas didn't agree to stay in the Big12 than it would have all crumbled but A&M played a major role in keeping Texas committed to the Big12. I am not saying that A&M was the only reason they decided to stay committed to the big12 but they were definitely influential when we told Larry Scott and the p10 no thanks.

and yes, you are right about A&M not being able to afford the exit penalty $ but if the big 12 dissolved which would have happened if Texas went to the p16 than A&M would have gone to the SEC. Obviously both programs (not 1 more than the other) felt it was not a good idea to split it all up just yet.

Sisk
11-01-2010, 09:41 PM
Look, I hate to give anyone else credit, but everyone else but aggy sees it - the rest of the B12 did exactly what UT told them to. After Neb was going to go, CU was worried about getting left out in the whole P10 deal, so they jumped the gun.

UT was joined at the hip with OSU and uo; Dodds promised Holder he would not leave him and Boren and Hargis pledged to do what the other one did. Once the P10 said that UT could not have their own network, the deal with them was over.

Meanwhile, back at the cult, atm was pissed because UT was running the show and that they would forever be in their burnt orange shadow, so they intertained moving to the SEC. If you read insider accounts, it was never anything for real more than talk, as the SEC actually wanted uo and not atm. However that was enough to make the media frenzy look like atm was as good as gone (the same media that reported that OSU and ttek had already accepted spots to the P10).

B12 was staying regardless of what atm did, but when they were told they would get some of the CU/NU money they came back like a cockroach to spilled honey. Their AD is so far in debt that there was no way they could have afforded the penalties moving to the SEC. In reality, the only reason they entertained going to the SEC was because they knew if the B12 folded they wouldn't have to pay. Their mind was made up for them when the B12 announced it would stay together and they were able to call themselves saviors in their own mind, when the rest of the world just shakes their head and says, "Sad" when they do it.

Are you mad because ou/tu/A&M all are getting paid $20 million?

Sisk
11-01-2010, 09:42 PM
Yeah A&M and UT don't have a rivalry or anything, but they take over a Baylor thread. :lol

:lol

Seriously..

MajorMike
11-01-2010, 10:17 PM
Are you mad because ou/tu/A&M all are getting paid $20 million?

LOL, ok; you let me know as soon as atm gets that 20 mil... sucker.

"COLLEGE STATION — The Big 12 Conference promised Texas A&M $20 million annually starting in 2012-13, and the Aggies intend to collect, A&M president R. Bowen Loftin said Wednesday.
“A key part of Texas A&M's decision to remain in the Big 12 earlier this summer was the commissioner's commitment that Texas A&M would receive a minimum of $20 million annually in future conference distributions,” Loftin said in a statement. “We remain committed to the conference and fully anticipate that the Big 12 will honor its commitment to Texas A&M.”

And what happens if the Big 12 doesn't honor its $20 million pledge? A high-ranking A&M official said late Wednesday that every legal avenue would be explored first, with the potential of bolting for the Southeastern Conference coming after."

Beebe promised them 20 mil because it is after the tv deal gets redone and he is really hoping each school gets over 20. uo and UT know better, that's why they turned down their portion of the exit money, to which atm said, hell no we need money.

Good luck with that. Maybe its a ploy in 3 years to fake going to the SEC, who doesn't really want you anyway, so you can come back and make people think you are relevant.

MajorMike
11-01-2010, 10:18 PM
and yes, you are right about A&M not being able to afford the exit penalty $ but if the big 12 dissolved which would have happened if Texas went to the p16 than A&M would have gone to the SEC. Obviously both programs (not 1 more than the other) felt it was not a good idea to split it all up just yet.



The whole point is atm keeps selling themselves as the savior; they didn't save crap, you just said it yourself. It was already a done deal once P10 turned UT Network down and Beebe said UT could do it that UT stayed. atm fans trying to say that them coming back to the B12 saved the B12 is so far from the truth that makes me want to look for Morgan Fairchild, your lovely wife.

The Reckoning
11-01-2010, 10:50 PM
:lmao

DesignatedT
11-01-2010, 10:51 PM
The whole point is atm keeps selling themselves as the savior; they didn't save crap, you just said it yourself. It was already a done deal once P10 turned UT Network down and Beebe said UT could do it that UT stayed. atm fans trying to say that them coming back to the B12 saved the B12 is so far from the truth that makes me want to look for Morgan Fairchild, your lovely wife.

To say it had no influence on the big12-2 staying intact couldn't be further from the truth also. It definitely had an impact.

and stop talking like oklahoma state is any more "relevant" than we are. at least we had enough balls to go explore different opportunities instead of just bowing down and slobbin on the cock of tu.

Sisk
11-01-2010, 10:51 PM
LOL, ok; you let me know as soon as atm gets that 20 mil... sucker.

"COLLEGE STATION — The Big 12 Conference promised Texas A&M $20 million annually starting in 2012-13, and the Aggies intend to collect, A&M president R. Bowen Loftin said Wednesday.
“A key part of Texas A&M's decision to remain in the Big 12 earlier this summer was the commissioner's commitment that Texas A&M would receive a minimum of $20 million annually in future conference distributions,” Loftin said in a statement. “We remain committed to the conference and fully anticipate that the Big 12 will honor its commitment to Texas A&M.”

And what happens if the Big 12 doesn't honor its $20 million pledge? A high-ranking A&M official said late Wednesday that every legal avenue would be explored first, with the potential of bolting for the Southeastern Conference coming after."

Beebe promised them 20 mil because it is after the tv deal gets redone and he is really hoping each school gets over 20. uo and UT know better, that's why they turned down their portion of the exit money, to which atm said, hell no we need money.

Good luck with that. Maybe its a ploy in 3 years to fake going to the SEC, who doesn't really want you anyway, so you can come back and make people think you are relevant.

I'm fucking with you. Big 12 isn't going to be able to pay that, and it's almost inevitable that the Aggies will be in the SEC. I just had to talk some shit. :downspin:

DesignatedT
11-01-2010, 10:59 PM
The whole point is atm keeps selling themselves as the savior; they didn't save crap, you just said it yourself. It was already a done deal once P10 turned UT Network down and Beebe said UT could do it that UT stayed. atm fans trying to say that them coming back to the B12 saved the B12 is so far from the truth that makes me want to look for Morgan Fairchild, your lovely wife.


Us getting promised the same amount of $ than tu and OU should indicate that there was a definite possibility of us leaving for another conference. Considering how we have performed in the last decade it is beyond hilarious how we are going to get the same amount of $ as those progams (who have been competing for national championships) while the rest of the big 12 took a back-seat to us "irrelevant" aggies.

leemajors
11-02-2010, 08:37 AM
To say it had no influence on the big12-2 staying intact couldn't be further from the truth also. It definitely had an impact.

and stop talking like oklahoma state is any more "relevant" than we are. at least we had enough balls to go explore different opportunities instead of just bowing down and slobbin on the cock of tu.

which, after fiddling around, you did anyway

LoneStarState'sPride
11-02-2010, 09:01 AM
which, after fiddling around, you did anyway

No, "fiddling around" is what y'all did.

"We're going to the Big 10"

"Check that, we're going to the Pac 10"

"Oh, and we want our own TV network"

"You better come with, Aggies, or we won't play you no more"

"Aggie, what are you doing, don'tcha wanna play?"

"Who's that you're talking to? That's not the SEC commish, is it?"

"SEC isn't interested in Aggie, world! Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"

"AlRIGHT, we was just playin', y'all--$$$ all around, on us, ok gang?"

"ZOMG WE SAVED THE BIG 12!" :clap:clap

Duff McCartney
11-02-2010, 10:00 AM
Being an OU fan I'm gonna be the voice of some reason...and I'll say this..there's no way Mack Brown is going to be gone from Texas in the next 5 years.

Hello Bob Stoops has choked more times than Mack Brown has the past decade and they still have him around.

I'm surprised Texas sucks so bad. I figured with Gilbert getting that experience in the NC game, they'd be alot better than they are now. But I think the problem is that Texas is not tough at all. UCLA came in and punched them in the mouth and they didn't know how to react.

Fpoonsie
11-02-2010, 11:10 AM
hahahahahaha aggies are living it up right now


What is funny is that even with Tannyhill taking snaps, all this UT abysmal play actually insures the fact that we will destroy A&M come Thanksgiving. Instead of that game being A&M's bowl game, the tables will be turned and it's going to be OUR bowl game. Instead of your players playing like their lives depend on beating UT, it will be OUR players playing like their futures depend on beating aggie.

UT sucking this much ass bodes bad for A&M only a blind homer with no sense of history would think otherwise.

Had UT not won at Nebraska, I wouldn't be saying this. But its no doubt the talent is there to be at least DECENT. This abysmal piss poor play is the coaches losing the team. But one thing those kids will get up for is the thought about being humiliated by Aggie.

LOL

I'm confused. Was this post an attempt to STRENGTHEN Reck's argument that TX doesn't care nearly as much about A&M as A&M does them?

leemajors
11-02-2010, 01:59 PM
No, "fiddling around" is what y'all did.

"We're going to the Big 10"

"Check that, we're going to the Pac 10"

"Oh, and we want our own TV network"

"You better come with, Aggies, or we won't play you no more"

"Aggie, what are you doing, don'tcha wanna play?"

"Who's that you're talking to? That's not the SEC commish, is it?"

"SEC isn't interested in Aggie, world! Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"

"AlRIGHT, we was just playin', y'all--$$$ all around, on us, ok gang?"

"ZOMG WE SAVED THE BIG 12!" :clap:clap

UT was looking into feasible options and conferences that would take them in a heartbeat.

leemajors
11-02-2010, 02:14 PM
it's irrelevant anyway, hopefully they get some more teams in.

The Reckoning
11-02-2010, 02:22 PM
I'm confused. Was this post an attempt to STRENGTHEN Reck's argument that TX doesn't care nearly as much about A&M as A&M does them?


no not all at. cbf goes into mid-season crises when UT isnt up to par. it happens.

MajorMike
11-02-2010, 03:16 PM
To say it had no influence on the big12-2 staying intact couldn't be further from the truth also. It definitely had an impact.

and stop talking like oklahoma state is any more "relevant" than we are. at least we had enough balls to go explore different opportunities instead of just bowing down and slobbin on the cock of tu.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4107/5040323781_81bf0a582a_b.jpg

SpursNextRomanEmpire
11-02-2010, 05:45 PM
I'm confused. Was this post an attempt to STRENGTHEN Reck's argument that TX doesn't care nearly as much about A&M as A&M does them?

:lol exactly

Kermit
11-02-2010, 05:47 PM
Are you mad because ou/tu/A&M all are getting paid $20 million?

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Not happening.

Obstructed_View
11-02-2010, 05:57 PM
Who gives a fuck? Baylor's gonna beat both of them this year.

<<<trying to get thread back on track.

LoneStarState'sPride
11-02-2010, 06:42 PM
UT was looking into feasible options and conferences that would take them in a heartbeat.

So when t.u. does it, it's ok, but when A&M does it, it's "fiddling around"?

Um-hmm, ok, sure :lol.

Sorry, Obstructed_View. I really am looking forward to going to Waco for the game in a couple weeks!

Kermit
11-02-2010, 06:59 PM
Who gives a fuck? Baylor's gonna beat both of them this year.

<<<trying to get thread back on track.

:depressed

Blake
11-02-2010, 07:02 PM
Who gives a fuck? Baylor's gonna beat both of them this year.

<<<trying to get thread back on track.

Tech > Baylor

if anyone gives a fuck besides me/

Obstructed_View
11-02-2010, 07:06 PM
Tech > Baylor

if anyone gives a fuck besides me/

I watched that game. Tech was really good. Very little defense from either team though. Kind of one of those "first to punt loses" kind of outings.

Obstructed_View
11-02-2010, 07:07 PM
So when t.u. does it, it's ok, but when A&M does it, it's "fiddling around"?

Um-hmm, ok, sure :lol.

Sorry, Obstructed_View. I really am looking forward to going to Waco for the game in a couple weeks!

I may head out there too. I like both teams but would like to see Baylor have one good season before their talent's all gone.

MajorMike
11-02-2010, 07:15 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Not happening.

Yeah; one more thing that the rest of the world knows the truth about yet aggy thinks they know better otherwise.

LoneStarState'sPride
11-02-2010, 07:46 PM
I may head out there too. I like both teams but would like to see Baylor have one good season before their talent's all gone.

Been at every A&M-baylor game since '04. Hard to rival the atmosphere at FCS, what with all the Aggies trying to take over the stadium. This year should be one of the best Battles on the Brazos yet, from a fan perspective.

Cant_Be_Faded
11-02-2010, 08:09 PM
My bad. We shall continue the rivalry in a thread elsewhere.

Can't wait to see Baylor against OU and Ag.

johngateswhiteley
11-03-2010, 02:33 AM
we know 2 things...

1) capn'mike is one cynical & negative dude

2) this is one of the softest t.u. teams I've ever seen; I'd be surprised if they beat A&M

...when A&M beat t.u. back to back, they weren't great, but they weren't soft. thus, I don't see them rising to the occasion.

MajorMike
11-03-2010, 12:23 PM
we know 2 things...

1) capn'mike is one cynical & negative dude


lol. jgw calling me cynical and negative is like Stalin saying Hitler was, 'a really bad dude.'

DesignatedT
11-03-2010, 12:32 PM
lol. jgw calling me cynical and negative is like Stalin saying Hitler was, 'a really bad dude.'

so you're hitler?

Blake
11-03-2010, 01:31 PM
we know 2 things...

1) capn'mike is one cynical & negative dude

2) this is one of the softest t.u. teams I've ever seen; I'd be surprised if they beat A&M

...when A&M beat t.u. back to back, they weren't great, but they weren't soft. thus, I don't see them rising to the occasion.

I'll be surprised if jgw ever picks a college skin.

Obstructed_View
11-03-2010, 02:34 PM
so you're hitler?

And Godwin's law is confirmed again.

DesignatedT
11-03-2010, 03:33 PM
And Godwin's law is confirmed again.

:lol

Homeland Security
11-03-2010, 04:05 PM
Look, I hate to give anyone else credit, but everyone else but aggy sees it - the rest of the B12 did exactly what UT told them to. After Neb was going to go, CU was worried about getting left out in the whole P10 deal, so they jumped the gun.

UT was joined at the hip with OSU and uo; Dodds promised Holder he would not leave him and Boren and Hargis pledged to do what the other one did. Once the P10 said that UT could not have their own network, the deal with them was over.

Meanwhile, back at the cult, atm was pissed because UT was running the show and that they would forever be in their burnt orange shadow, so they intertained moving to the SEC. If you read insider accounts, it was never anything for real more than talk, as the SEC actually wanted uo and not atm. However that was enough to make the media frenzy look like atm was as good as gone (the same media that reported that OSU and ttek had already accepted spots to the P10).

B12 was staying regardless of what atm did, but when they were told they would get some of the CU/NU money they came back like a cockroach to spilled honey. Their AD is so far in debt that there was no way they could have afforded the penalties moving to the SEC. In reality, the only reason they entertained going to the SEC was because they knew if the B12 folded they wouldn't have to pay. Their mind was made up for them when the B12 announced it would stay together and they were able to call themselves saviors in their own mind, when the rest of the world just shakes their head and says, "Sad" when they do it.
Look, everybody knows that given a choice, the SEC schools would prefer to have Texas and Oklahoma as western additions. That's a no-brainer. But Texas made clear over and over again that it has no interest in joining the SEC because it believes that academically the SEC is beneath it. And Oklahoma has made it clear that it views itself as part of a tandem with Texas. So, the SEC can't get its first choices. So be it.

The reason Texas A&M is attractive as a Plan B/C is not because there is anything particularly winsome about Aggie football. From a competitive standpoint, all a Texas A&M addition would mean is that Vanderbilt and Kentucky would have a bona fide opportunity for an easy conference win every few years.

No, the attractive part about Texas A&M is simply that it is a very large school in Texas, which means the following:
1) Improved recruiting in Texas for SEC powers
2) Large, affluent fan base
3) Increased exposure in #5 media market Dallas
4) Increased exposure in #10 media market Houston

Of course Texas delivers all these in a much bigger way than A&M does, and Oklahoma delivers some of them as well, and both of them have a superior brand to that of A&M, but while you can't always get what you want, if you try sometimes, you'll find you get what you need.

Texas A&M is also "culturally" a good fit for the SEC because it would help make schools like Arkansas and Mississippi State feel sophisticated.

A similar dynamic would work in geographic expansion on the eastern front, where the SEC in a perfect world would rather have North Carolina, but probably would have to settle for something like NC State.

Homeland Security
11-03-2010, 04:07 PM
Oh, and I can't believe I live in a world where TCU and Baylor have the two best football teams in the state of Texas.

LoneStarState'sPride
11-03-2010, 06:32 PM
Look, everybody knows that given a choice, the SEC schools would prefer to have Texas and Oklahoma as western additions. That's a no-brainer. But Texas made clear over and over again that it has no interest in joining the SEC because it believes that academically the SEC is beneath it. And Oklahoma has made it clear that it views itself as part of a tandem with Texas. So, the SEC can't get its first choices. So be it.

The reason Texas A&M is attractive as a Plan B/C is not because there is anything particularly winsome about Aggie football. From a competitive standpoint, all a Texas A&M addition would mean is that Vanderbilt and Kentucky would have a bona fide opportunity for an easy conference win every few years.

No, the attractive part about Texas A&M is simply that it is a very large school in Texas, which means the following:
1) Improved recruiting in Texas for SEC powers
2) Large, affluent fan base
3) Increased exposure in #5 media market Dallas
4) Increased exposure in #10 media market Houston

Of course Texas delivers all these in a much bigger way than A&M does, and Oklahoma delivers some of them as well, and both of them have a superior brand to that of A&M, but while you can't always get what you want, if you try sometimes, you'll find you get what you need.

Texas A&M is also "culturally" a good fit for the SEC because it would help make schools like Arkansas and Mississippi State feel sophisticated.

A similar dynamic would work in geographic expansion on the eastern front, where the SEC in a perfect world would rather have North Carolina, but probably would have to settle for something like NC State.

Blah blah blah.

t.u. didn't want to go to the SEC because they didn't want such a tough row to hoe to get to the MNC. The competition on the west coast simply isn't on par with texas--why would they sacrifice a chance at that for the sake of slugging it out with Florida, Bama, Georgia, and the like week in and week out?

That's a pretty myopic view of college sports anyway. So A&M had a rough decade in football. LSU was down when they went to the SEC. Arkansas had fallen on tougher times as well. Don't show your ignorance and believe that A&M has been and will always be a bottom feeder--college sports are too fickle and cyclical for that (see, texas university at austin, 2010 season). For the same reasons A&M would help the SEC from an image and a cultural standpoint, the SEC would benefit A&M with access to even more fertile recruiting ground. It works both ways.

DesignatedT
11-03-2010, 07:05 PM
Not to mention Texas A&M would immediately be able to compete in every other sport not named Football.