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Gutter92
10-27-2010, 11:37 AM
Alright, I never took physics class in high school (I have taken biology, chemistry, and in place of physics, I took anatomy), so I am genuinely curious if this would be possible:

You would need to be incredibly strong to do it, if it even works.

Say I am standing in front of someone. I reach across and put my hands on their shoulders, and they do the same to me (hands on outside of shoulder). I then pick them up (this is where the incredible strength part comes in).

Would they then be able to do the same to me, and we keep doing it and get higher and higher in the air? Or would they need to be twice as strong since they would be lifting not only me, but themselves too? WOULD this even be possible?

DeadlyDynasty
10-27-2010, 11:40 AM
http://djkidrich.com/WTFII.jpg

MannyIsGod
10-27-2010, 11:57 AM
:lmao

Warlord23
10-27-2010, 12:03 PM
Are you from the same high school as koriwhat? Get some calf tats, and you will have everything that it takes to be a first-rate male secretary.

MannyIsGod
10-27-2010, 12:26 PM
My legs are so strong I can jump again after I jump while in mid air to get to a higher place. I gotta work out more so i can do a triple jump, though.

spurs_fan_in_exile
10-27-2010, 12:35 PM
I think in place of physics you took LSD.

Cry Havoc
10-27-2010, 12:45 PM
My legs are so strong I can jump again after I jump while in mid air to get to a higher place. I gotta work out more so i can do a triple jump, though.

Hey, if Sonic can do it...

koriwhat
10-27-2010, 01:00 PM
Are you from the same high school as koriwhat? Get some calf tats, and you will have everything that it takes to be a first-rate male secretary.

leave me out your dental. i've never taken a physics class before but i definitely know that's the stupidest question ever asked here at ST or anywhere.

Chachachango
10-27-2010, 01:05 PM
:lol and you got accept to Illinois University?

PakiDan
10-27-2010, 01:10 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VLIWfH-j2Fo/S7yC1NgWJ0I/AAAAAAAADHA/vQZeP1_cpTU/s1600/wtf-cat.jpg

Wild Cobra
10-27-2010, 01:21 PM
The fact that you have more pressure on your feet when you list something should be a clue.

Gutter92
10-27-2010, 01:22 PM
The fact that you have more pressure on your feet when you list something should be a clue.

What do you mean? Does that mean if you are able to pick someone up, it would be easier for them to pick you up since the pressure is on their feet, pulling them down, and reducing how much they have to pick up?

DeadlyDynasty
10-27-2010, 01:26 PM
Puh3VxlmlRs

Cyrano
10-27-2010, 01:34 PM
http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/files/2009-june/wile_e_coyote_gravity.jpg
Welcome to the Wile E. Coyote School of Physics

Gutter92
10-27-2010, 01:56 PM
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/5856/examplef.jpg (http://img823.imageshack.us/i/examplef.jpg/)

phyzik
10-27-2010, 02:00 PM
http://101tees.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/retard.gif

Jekka
10-27-2010, 02:04 PM
We need our resident life coach back.

CosmicCowboy
10-27-2010, 02:16 PM
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/5856/examplef.jpg


Is that angellove and oilboy doing the rapture dance?

ALVAREZ6
10-27-2010, 02:56 PM
I think in place of physics you took LSD.
:lol


:tu

z0sa
10-27-2010, 03:02 PM
gravity has its hands on all four shoulders, bro

PakiDan
10-27-2010, 03:39 PM
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/5856/examplef.jpg


Is that angellove and oilboy doing the rapture dance?

Oilboy!!! :lol :lol :lol :lol :tu

CuckingFunt
10-27-2010, 04:26 PM
My legs are so strong I can jump again after I jump while in mid air to get to a higher place.

Basic platformer logic.

CuckingFunt
10-27-2010, 04:29 PM
Alright, I never took physics class in high school (I have taken biology, chemistry, and in place of physics, I took anatomy), so I am genuinely curious if this would be possible:

You would need to be incredibly strong to do it, if it even works.

Say I am standing in front of someone. I reach across and put my hands on their shoulders, and they do the same to me (hands on outside of shoulder). I then pick them up (this is where the incredible strength part comes in).

Would they then be able to do the same to me, and we keep doing it and get higher and higher in the air? Or would they need to be twice as strong since they would be lifting not only me, but themselves too? WOULD this even be possible?

Also, yes, this is possible.

So long as neither party looks down.

And it is especially helpful if this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfDqR4fqIWE) is playing in the background.

The Reckoning
10-27-2010, 06:44 PM
My legs are so strong I can jump again after I jump while in mid air to get to a higher place. I gotta work out more so i can do a triple jump, though.


actualy thats what long jumpers and triple jumpers do...thats why they do that bicycle motion in mid air.

Dex
10-27-2010, 06:49 PM
For the sake of humanity, let this be a troll thread.

Gutter92
10-27-2010, 06:57 PM
For the sake of humanity, let this be a troll thread.

Care to give a reason why this is not possible? Theoretically it should be.

Dex
10-27-2010, 07:04 PM
Care to give a reason why this is not possible? Theoretically it should be.

http://files.sharenator.com/tactical_facepalm_Facepalm_collection-s480x352-82174-580.jpg

Actually, no, theoretically it shouldn't. There is a little thing called gravity that you seem to fail to consider.

Even if your friend had the physical strength to lift you, after having been lifted by you, his feet would immediately fall back to the earth as soon as your feet left it. Regardless of whether you can support the weight of each other, one or the other must be supporting the weight of both of you against Earth's gravity. Goes back to that whole action and reaction thing.

Or do you really think that once you lift your friend off the ground, he is going to magically be able to float in the air and lift you higher? Or that his internal lifting strength is somehow going to counteract the external influence of gravity?

It doesn't matter how much beefcake your friend eats; you're never going to escape Newton's laws.

HighLowLobForBig-50
10-27-2010, 07:08 PM
lever, FTW

Gutter92
10-27-2010, 07:31 PM
http://files.sharenator.com/tactical_facepalm_Facepalm_collection-s480x352-82174-580.jpg

Actually, no, theoretically it shouldn't. There is a little thing called gravity that you seem to fail to consider.

Even if your friend had the physical strength to lift you, after having been lifted by you, his feet would immediately fall back to the earth as soon as your feet left it. Regardless of whether you can support the weight of each other, one or the other must be supporting the weight of both of you against Earth's gravity. Goes back to that whole action and reaction thing.

Or do you really think that once you lift your friend off the ground, he is going to magically be able to float in the air and lift you higher? Or that his internal lifting strength is somehow going to counteract the external influence of gravity?

It doesn't matter how much beefcake your friend eats; you're never going to escape Newton's laws.

How much would you have to be able to lift to counteract gravity? Is it in the hundreds of pounds, or thousands?

His feet wouldn't immediately touch the floor; there would be a .5 sec interval in between, where he would be lifting me up (in that time, if he is fast enough), so after t he initial lift, neither of our legs should touch the floor again until we stop.

MannyIsGod
10-27-2010, 08:27 PM
Dude you're onto something here

easjer
10-27-2010, 10:11 PM
God, I needed this laugh today.

fraga
10-27-2010, 10:16 PM
http://cdn3.knowyourmeme.com/i/6515/original/jesus-facepalm-facepalm-jesus-epic-demotivational-poster-1218659828.jpg?1248715819

resistanze
10-27-2010, 10:17 PM
:lol Excellent troll thread.

Dex
10-27-2010, 10:24 PM
How much would you have to be able to lift to counteract gravity? Is it in the hundreds of pounds, or thousands?

His feet wouldn't immediately touch the floor; there would be a .5 sec interval in between, where he would be lifting me up (in that time, if he is fast enough), so after t he initial lift, neither of our legs should touch the floor again until we stop.

http://pics.livejournal.com/tekmagika/pic/001fbxrr

There's no way of debating this if you refuse to acknowledge the basic laws of physics. It doesn't matter how much physical power your body is capable of exerting; gravity is still going to impart its force on you. If anything, when you friend tries to lift you after you've lifted him, his power is just going to become centrifugal force and spin you both on your vertical axis. Either way, gravity is still going to pull you back down to earth, so you're just gonna land on your feet or on your ass.

I hate to disappoint you, but its not going to work. If you would like to know for sure, do some pushups, conduct a science experiment, and try it out with a friend.

Gutter92
10-27-2010, 10:25 PM
This would be a more accurate picture of what I mean, the other one only had "step 1" and it didn't continue.

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2289/example1l.jpg

Dex
10-27-2010, 10:26 PM
Oh well, why didn't you just say so. Of course that would work. :rolleyes

Gutter92
10-27-2010, 10:28 PM
http://pics.livejournal.com/tekmagika/pic/001fbxrr

There's no way of debating this if you refuse to acknowledge the basic laws of physics. It doesn't matter how much physical power your body is capable of exerting; gravity is still going to impart its force on you. If anything, when you friend tries to life you after you've lifted him, his power is just going to become centrifugal force and spin you both on your vertical axis. Either way, gravity is still going to pull you back down to earth, so you're just gonna land on your feet or on your ass.

I hate to disappoint you, but its not going to work. If you would like to know for sure, do some pushups, conduct a science experiment, and try it out with a friend.

Yea, I realize gravity is the biggest force working against you. Theoretically, why would this not be possible if the two people are strong enough? How does NASA launch their shuttle's if gravity would just stop it from going up? I realize that EVENTUALLY you'd need to come back down, hell you learn that shit in 4th grade "What goes up must come down", but surely if you were strong enough it would be possible, if even for a short time?

Gutter92
10-27-2010, 10:46 PM
Here's something else I'm curious about. I remember a few weeks back, someone said something about how magnets work.

Would this be possible, if the magnetic attraction was strong enough?

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8309/magnetcar.jpg

The car should be going forwards infinitely, as the magnet would continue pulling forward

tlongII
10-27-2010, 10:56 PM
I don't know if Gutter92 is a troll or not, but he sure is funny! :lol

pawe
10-27-2010, 11:52 PM
http://4chanarchive.org/images/275737435/1285770551123.jpg

http://4chanarchive.org/images/275737435/1285770439742.png

http://4chanarchive.org/images/275737435/1285770501880.jpg

http://4chanarchive.org/images/275737435/1285770860310.png

Useruser666
10-28-2010, 08:25 AM
This thread reminds me of that big seatbelt/seesaw scare of the late 80's.

heatluva
10-28-2010, 10:47 AM
each man would have to be powerful enough to thrust the other upward as a speed faster than that of gravity, imho

DarkReign
10-28-2010, 12:13 PM
each man would have to be powerful enough to thrust the other upward as a speed faster than that of gravity, imho

Great thread, funny, too. But...

Ummmm, no.

Strength has nothing to do with this little non-thought experiment.

Dex did a good job of explaining the principle. Action/Reaction. Think of doing this little Ballet of Brilliance in space, even without gravity pulling you down.

It still doesnt work because no matter how strong/fast you lift your less-than-intelligent friend, the same force is being applied to you, the Amateur Astronaut. As you lift, your butt-buddy rises only half the lift distance because you (the lifter) descend by half the lift distance. There is a theoretical way of "swimming" in zero gravity, but it would require a non-human physiology or a suit of incredible proportions (has to do with the natural curve of space-time and exploiting its inherent weaknesses).

Throw gravity's unyielding effect on things (ie Earth) and you have to contend with its impact on inertia. An object at rest, stays at rest unless acted upon by an outside force (7th grade science class, right there). In this non-instance, the outside force is gravity and the objects are the two future leaders of the world embracing each other.

The magnet picture is a good one, too.

Gutter92
10-28-2010, 12:20 PM
Great thread, funny, too. But...

Ummmm, no.

Strength has nothing to do with this little non-thought experiment.

Dex did a good job of explaining the principle. Action/Reaction. Think of doing this little Ballet of Brilliance in space, even without gravity pulling you down.

It still doesnt work because no matter how strong/fast you lift your less-than-intelligent friend, the same force is being applied to you, the Amateur Astronaut. As you lift, your butt-buddy rises only half the lift distance because you (the lifter) descend by half the lift distance. There is a theoretical way of "swimming" in zero gravity, but it would require a non-human physiology or a suit of incredible proportions (has to do with the natural curve of space-time and exploiting its inherent weaknesses).

Throw gravity's unyielding effect on things (ie Earth) and you have to contend with its impact on inertia. An object at rest, stays at rest unless acted upon by an outside force (7th grade science class, right there). In this non-instance, the outside force is gravity and the objects are the two future leaders of the world embracing each other.

The magnet picture is a good one, too.

So how exactly do space shuttles lift off from earth? Because the force is strong enough, no? That's why I am asking; shouldn't it be possible if the two people are strong enough, much like the space shuttle?

Summers
10-28-2010, 12:42 PM
So how exactly do space shuttles lift off from earth? Because the force is strong enough, no? That's why I am asking; shouldn't it be possible if the two people are strong enough, much like the space shuttle?

Oh, Jiminy Cricket. I assume you're either still trolling, still on an acid trip, or eight years old. But, whatever, I'm in. The space shuttle lifts off because it supplies continuous thrust against gravity. It doesn't jump or provide push with one good blast of force. You know those giant tanks that get dropped into the ocean as soon as the shuttle makes it out of the atmosphere? Those are giant tanks that used to be full of frozen fuel and they are spent because they have just provided a crapload of continuous thrust against the force of gravity.

In your thought experiment, as soon as you lift your friend up in the air, he has no way of providing force against gravity because his feet are in the air. The two of you are a unit with a center of gravity probably somewhere between you and, as a unit, are being pulled down by gravity. As soon as he lifts your feet off the ground, there is nothing supporting your weight, so gravity pulls your center of gravity down. He may be able to lift you above his head before you both hit the ground, but in doing so he sinks closer to the ground, not just due to gravity, but due to shifting your collective center of gravity upward. Your center of gravity, as a unit, cannot defy the force of gravity unless some thrust is provide AFTER the second person's feet lift off the ground. You could jump while he pulls you up, but your center of gravity can only reach as high as the thrust provided.

Summers
10-28-2010, 12:44 PM
each man would have to be powerful enough to thrust the other upward as a speed faster than that of gravity, imho

No. See above.

Gutter92
10-28-2010, 12:54 PM
Oh, Jiminy Cricket. I assume you're either still trolling, still on an acid trip, or eight years old. But, whatever, I'm in. The space shuttle lifts off because it supplies continuous thrust against gravity. It doesn't jump or provide push with one good blast of force. You know those giant tanks that get dropped into the ocean as soon as the shuttle makes it out of the atmosphere? Those are giant tanks that used to be full of frozen fuel and they are spent because they have just provided a crapload of continuous thrust against the force of gravity.

In your thought experiment, as soon as you lift your friend up in the air, he has no way of providing force against gravity because his feet are in the air. The two of you are a unit with a center of gravity probably somewhere between you and, as a unit, are being pulled down by gravity. As soon as he lifts your feet off the ground, there is nothing supporting your weight, so gravity pulls your center of gravity down. He may be able to lift you above his head before you both hit the ground, but in doing so he sinks closer to the ground, not just due to gravity, but due to shifting your collective center of gravity upward. Your center of gravity, as a unit, cannot defy the force of gravity unless some thrust is provide AFTER the second person's feet lift off the ground. You could jump while he pulls you up, but your center of gravity can only reach as high as the thrust provided.

So it wouldn't work no matter how strong we are? Even unrealistically strong? One persons feet would always have to be on the ground to lift? This makes sense if this is the case; thanks for explaining

The Reckoning
10-28-2010, 01:05 PM
trolling sucks if the material isnt original

Dex
10-28-2010, 01:59 PM
http://4chanarchive.org/images/275737435/1285770860310.png

This is my favorite.

Energy crisis: solved.

lint
10-28-2010, 02:03 PM
trolling sucks if the material isnt original

+1

RandomGuy
10-28-2010, 02:05 PM
Alright, I never took physics class in high school (I have taken biology, chemistry, and in place of physics, I took anatomy), so I am genuinely curious if this would be possible:

You would need to be incredibly strong to do it, if it even works.

Say I am standing in front of someone. I reach across and put my hands on their shoulders, and they do the same to me (hands on outside of shoulder). I then pick them up (this is where the incredible strength part comes in).

Would they then be able to do the same to me, and we keep doing it and get higher and higher in the air? Or would they need to be twice as strong since they would be lifting not only me, but themselves too? WOULD this even be possible?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=57&pictureid=323

Sisk
10-28-2010, 02:28 PM
This would be a more accurate picture of what I mean, the other one only had "step 1" and it didn't continue.

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2289/example1l.jpg

:lmao:lmao

Sisk
10-28-2010, 02:32 PM
trolling sucks if the material isnt original

Yeah. Here I was all impressed with Gutter's ability to suck this entire forum in.. Then I see pawe's post and it's all ruined.
:depressed

Dex
11-08-2010, 07:57 PM
http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/trollphysicurdoingitrongp1.gif

These guys almost had it, but they were doing it wrong.