wow...fans have spoken...

[SequSpur]

There are at lfeast 4000 empty seats here at this game tonight....unbelievable

[sandman]

I guess you were speaking as well before you got handed free tickets this afternoon...

[koriwhat]

^ ha

[FromWayDowntown]

It's almost embarrassing that a home opener for a top 10 team would be so poorly attended. San Antonio sure is starting to look like a front-running basketball town.

[in2deep]

embarrasing and pathetic

move that team to a deserving city

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Wow ya'll Suck. If only I lived in SA

[Buddy Holly]

Did Sequ start this thread from his home? lol

That's like a fat person screaming about helping starving children while eating at Golden Carrol.

[Leonard Curse]

what !! wow theres no excuse for this whatsoever and with holts great deals this is sad but instead of complaining im going to do something about it.. get up off your ass spurs fans and tell people to buy tix before we lose our team or have the spurs players feel horrible.

ya know everytime ive been to a pacer game its been soooo dead i think S.A is put to sleep by indiana period. but hey its season opener and looks like all the bandwagon fans have fled good for them get the hell out of here and go back to houston or dallas

[TheDarkSide.]

:rolleyes ...it's only 1 of 82. Weren't we 10th in attendance last yea just behind boston? I doubt the figures will show less than 16,000 for tonights game

[Cant_Be_Faded]

TPark should buy a thousand tickets and give them away for free.

[falconqb1234]

too bad i live in austin. but its the first game on a wednesday against the pacers...so its expected.

[peskypesky]

embarrassed by my lame-ass hometown.

[seth210]

its the pacers...

[admiralsnackbar]

Whatever. The economy has spoken.

[smrattler]

but its the first game on a wednesday against the pacers...

[ElNono]

The economy probably had a louder voice than the people...

[DesignatedT]

should have put the stadium in a better spot.

[AussieFanKurt]

Wish I was there

[spurs1990]

San Antonio is like the poorest city in the NBA. Why do y'all think people have 50-200 bucks lying around to attend one out of 41 basketball games to fill up the Alamodome?

[TimDunkem]

should have put the stadium in a better spot.
Agreed.

[dbestpro]

San Antonio is like the poorest city in the NBA. Why do y'all think people have 50-200 bucks lying around to attend one out of 41 basketball games to fill up the Alamodome?

Maybe the poorest, but our unemployment is about half of the other major cities.

[rayray2k8]

It was against the fucking Pacers.. Are you kidding me?
You guys are gonna make a big deal about this during the first game, again I repeat, the FIRST game of the season????
The game was on KENS and was free to watch.

Don't be surprised when the Kings/Rapters/Clippers/Nets/Wolves/Warriors don't sell out the arena.
:rolleyes

[Death In June]

San Antonio is like the poorest city in the NBA. Why do y'all think people have 50-200 bucks lying around to attend one out of 41 basketball games to fill up the Alamodome?

[admiralsnackbar]

Maybe the poorest, but our unemployment is about half of the other major cities.

:lol that's some cold comfort, holmes!

[TXstbobcat]

Per ESPN: Attendance: 18,581

[LongtimeSpursFan]

should have put the stadium in a better spot.


This. Loved going to games at the Hemisfair and Alamodome. Though neither of those facilities were great for basketball I loved to go have dinner downtown then walk over to game. Or after game hanging out at one of the downtown establishments.

That being said there is no reason why one of the most successful franchises in sports should not be able to sell out a season opener at home.

[Cry Havoc]

First game, Wednesday, against the Pacers, and the economy is HORRIBLE right now. So yeah, sometimes people can't make it to a game.

I will say that the Spurs are bigger than just San Antonio, and have one of the better inter-country followings of any NBA team. So just because we didn't sell the stadium out doesn't mean that we didn't have a lot of people watching.

[Obstructed_View]

It's only October...

[rayray2k8]

Per ESPN: Attendance: 18,581

Yeah that's the thing, I was looking at the game, wasn't really all that concerned if there were enough people in the arena.

So basically the 1st quarter had people arriving late and in the 4th quarter people leaving with the spurs having a double digit lead....

Sounds like a typical night to me.

Here's to game win to the spurs. 81 games to go.

Gonna be a ride. :toast

[ChuckD]

I'm not paying for this shit anymore. F the Spurs

Glass houses, hobbit.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Surely this has more to do with the economy than anything else?

And then there's the team we're playing: I doubt the Pacers are high on anyone's must-see list, although I enjoyed watching them.

[gameFACE]

There are at lfeast 4000 empty seats here at this game tonight....unbelievable

but its the first game on a wednesday against the pacers...so its expected.
Very true. If it was a weekend game there would only be 3500 empty seats.

[SequSpur]

season opener fellas...should've been standing room only....

[ducks]

yes mommy

[admiralsnackbar]

season opener fellas...should've been standing room only....
And you shouldn't post garbage threads, but it is what it is.

[SequSpur]

And you shouldn't post garbage threads, but it is what it is.

you should probably kiss my ass.

[ducks]

that small thing you got?

[SequSpur]

that small thing you got?

you should probably kiss my ass also.

[admiralsnackbar]

you should probably kiss my ass.

Probably, but as this thread demonstrates, I probably won't.

[ducks]

you should probably kiss my ass also.

since your wife will not:lol:lol:lol:lol:downspin::downspin:

[SequSpur]

Probably, but as this thread demonstrates, I probably won't.

there ya go...thanks for your input.

[SequSpur]

since your wife will not:lol:lol:lol:lol:downspin::downspin:

you're absolutely stupid Ducks.

[admiralsnackbar]

there ya go...thanks for your input.

Happy to oblige.

[jimo2305]

unfortunately some ppl got shit to do on a wednesday night.. :\

[4>0rings]

So which one of you went to the game?

[rayray2k8]

<Worked

[Buddy Holly]

San Antonio is like the poorest city in the NBA. Why do y'all think people have 50-200 bucks lying around to attend one out of 41 basketball games to fill up the Alamodome?

It actually isn't. That is all.

[Trill Clinton]

smh...there were 18,852 people there and they played the Pacers. NO team sells out when they play teams like the Pacers.

[Ditty]

was pretty crazy after the game cheering down the escalator and at the top of arena with go spurs go chants. Yeah the arena looked empty, but we should be used to it fans really dont start caring until february or march.

[SequSpur]

smh...there were 18,852 people there and they played the Pacers. NO team sells out when they play teams like the Pacers.

yeah right, there were about 14k there tops...the parking lot was half full or half empty depending how you look at it...

it's the season opener...they have always sold out the season opener....

I don't think its the economy...it's the lack of excitement on this team...i still think they will do well but suit up! lol

[jjktkk]

There are at lfeast 4000 empty seats here at this game tonight....unbelievable

What did you expect? Next time don't tell everyone and their mother that your going to a Spurs game, and then we will fill the place up.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Piss poor economy + lame duck opponent (I don't care--it's Indiana) - bandwagon fans + fucking Wednesday night = shit attendance

Not that big a deal. 1 down, 81 to go!

[Dingle Barry]

should have put the stadium in a better spot.

Exactly this. It's not a problem when the economy isn't shit and there is a lot of excitement about the team or a particular game. But it is a flat out fucktarded location as far as attracting the marginal potential attendee. Its only going to get worse when we are a lottery team in a few years.

Wasnt the runner-up site by that quarry/factory/whatever further north on 35? I seem to recall the politics for choosing the 'hood was to revitalize that area, and i havent seen any evidence of that.

[biziofromdowntown]

Stern would be happy

[AlleyOopNazi]

wow... fans have spoken... this thread sucks

[Frenchise player]

It was also the first game of the World Series for the Texas Rangers, maybee that could explain some of the empty seats.

[Obstructed_View]

So a guy who posts regularly on a Spurs forum didn't buy Spurs opening night tickets and is bitching about people that didn't buy tickets? And ducks is the stupid one?

[to21]

San Antonio is like the poorest city in the NBA. Why do y'all think people have 50-200 bucks lying around to attend one out of 41 basketball games to fill up the Alamodome?Link?

[hater]

LMAO at ppl blaming the economy

what happened to the economy in Portland, LA, Oklahoma, and all the other NBA cities that was sold out????

[703 Spurz]

San Antonio is like the poorest city in the NBA. Why do y'all think people have 50-200 bucks lying around to attend one out of 41 basketball games to fill up the Alamodome?

What? Stubhub has 3 dollar tickets for the game against the Hornets. Section 222, Row 22.

Don't tell me people can't afford to go to these games

[tmtcsc]

Ticket prices have spoken.

[TheDarkSide.]

http://content.usatoday.com/sportsdata/basketball/nba/game/Pacers_Spurs/2010/10/27

Attendance was 18,581..lot of people probably got there late.

[Cane]

Hard to trust Sequ when it comes to facts and numbers or anything tbh.....

[ATXSPUR]

San Antonio is like the poorest city in the NBA. Why do y'all think people have 50-200 bucks lying around to attend one out of 41 basketball games to fill up the Alamodome?

Alamodome? This is the first time I've been here since I went into a drunken coma after we got swept by the Suns, but I didn't think I missed THAT much.

[TwelveGs210]

I agree, I know it wasn't the most high profile home opener. We will really get a chance to judge on saturday night, it's a weekend so most people dont work Sunday. There should be no excuse for that many empty seats, especially in the lower levels. Once the momentum builds and we start racking up wins, fan interest will go up, and the seats will start filling again. regardless that doesn't hide the fact that we are showing signs of being a front-running city. These same people with shoe polish on their back windows, and Spurs flags flying out of every window in the car, won't show the same support until they think were well on our way to dethroning the Lakers. Sad. Bad economy or not, Spurs tickets are WAAAAAAY more affordable than Football tickets, no excuse for that crap.

[easjer]

It was also the first game of the World Series for the Texas Rangers, maybee that could explain some of the empty seats.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

[gospursgojas]

What? Stubhub has 3 dollar tickets for the game against the Hornets. Section 222, Row 22.

Don't tell me people can't afford to go to these games

Great.

What about the 10 bucks to park? 10 bucks in gas to get way the fuck over there? 10 bucks for sodas if you so happen to get thirsty?

[The_Worlds_finest]

Yeah Let me go pick some money from the tree, so I can get decent seats that make me want to actually go. Until then, Im watching at home on my 46" hd.

[nkdlunch]

Hard to trust Sequ when it comes to facts and numbers or anything tbh.....

/thread

he said 4000, it was probably more like 400 and ppl were still filing in.

it's Sequ ppl.
:downspin:

[Sausage]

I was there and the arena was packed. Don't know where Sequ got his information.

[hater]

I was there and the arena was packed. Don't know where Sequ got his information.

where else is he gonna get his info? from his buddies Jack Daniels and Jimmy Bean

[MannyIsGod]

Great.

What about the 10 bucks to park? 10 bucks in gas to get way the fuck over there? 10 bucks for sodas if you so happen to get thirsty?

Not to mention in this economy people can't even afford 3 bucks at times. Its shitty but its whats going on right now.

[phxspurfan]

The first game of the world series says hello.

[BanditHiro]

/thread

he said 4000, it was probably more like 400 and ppl were still filing in.

it's Sequ ppl.
:downspin:

what is with this Sequ guy what makes him tick why does he say the things he say? has he always been this way?

[blkroadrunners]

What? Stubhub has 3 dollar tickets for the game against the Hornets. Section 222, Row 22.

Don't tell me people can't afford to go to these games

You also have a service fee and a delivery fee which is more than the ticket.

[wontstartdumbthreads]

San Antonio is like the poorest city in the NBA. Why do y'all think people have 50-200 bucks lying around to attend one out of 41 basketball games to fill up the Alamodome?

The top ten poorest cities in the U.S. based on median household income (NBA cities only):
#1 Detroit
#2 Cleveland
#3 Miami
#9 Memphis

Ten poorest cities in U.S. based on % living below poverty level (NBA cities only):
#1 Detroit
#4 Cleveland
#5 Miami
#8 Milwalkee
#9 Philadelphia

But maybe you meant poorest city in terms of interior defense.

[FromWayDowntown]

Sequ's absolutely right about the number of empty seats. I was there, and upstairs, there were whole rows in multiple sections that were empty. The Spurs may have been able to declare the game a sell out on paper, but I'd be shocked if that arena was 75% full in reality, even after the late stragglers got there.

I've been to hundreds of games at the AT&T Center and to every home opener in that building; the crowd last night was comparable to mid-week game in January against a horrible team. I've never before seen an opener with so many empty seats.


But it is a flat out fucktarded location as far as attracting the marginal potential attendee. Its only going to get worse when we are a lottery team in a few years.

Wasnt the runner-up site by that quarry/factory/whatever further north on 35? I seem to recall the politics for choosing the 'hood was to revitalize that area, and i havent seen any evidence of that.

The location sucks, but that is the location because Bexar County had to step in to get the building done and, therefore, had to put it on County property. In 1999, the Spurs tried to work the deal for this building with the City of San Antonio and proposed a number of locations for construction, including a plot of land next to the Alamodome and an abandoned quarry. But the City government insisted upon tying a number of far more controversial proposals to the Arena proposal in that election and the Spurs were understandably concerned that funding for the arena might be defeated by those who would rally in opposition to the other proposals.

Left without a means to have a public vote on arena funding and a looming threat that the team would move, the County government stepped in and made the proposal that was eventually put before the voters and passed. But the County could not propose the construction of its building on City property and the most logical plot of County-owned land for building the arena was the plot next to the Freeman Coliseum, which is county property.

Thus, we're stuck with a building where it is because it became the only viable plan for keeping the Spurs here in 1999.

[JoshO501]

Looks like i might be able to get some good seats this year for my annual spurs trip.

[Barfunk]

Man, I really hope the Spurs don't get moved to another city when they become a lottery team.

[jb4g]

Exactly this. It's not a problem when the economy isn't shit and there is a lot of excitement about the team or a particular game. But it is a flat out fucktarded location as far as attracting the marginal potential attendee. Its only going to get worse when we are a lottery team in a few years.

Wasnt the runner-up site by that quarry/factory/whatever further north on 35? I seem to recall the politics for choosing the 'hood was to revitalize that area, and i havent seen any evidence of that.

the other site was the area that NEISD Hero's Stadium occupies today. Would have been a great site with the access to 35 and Wurzbach Pkwy. But it got built in the hood in the name of "economic revitalization" and has only attracted a beauty salon and a tattoo parlor :lol

[dbestpro]

The most ballyhood team in the NBA (Heat) did not sell out in Philadelphia and they have not sold out for their home opener, as of yet. Fan attendance remains an issue of cost and a tight economy throughout the league.

[robino2001]

Sequ's absolutely right about the number of empty seats. I was there, and upstairs, there were whole rows in multiple sections that were empty. The Spurs may have been able to declare the game a sell out on paper, but I'd be shocked if that arena was 75% full in reality, even after the late stragglers got there.

I've been to hundreds of games at the AT&T Center and to every home opener in that building; the crowd last night was comparable to mid-week game in January against a horrible team. I've never before seen an opener with so many empty seats.

Totally agree, but the visiting team had a lot to do with it too, I think. This was the crappiest opener since we opened against Indiana 8 or so years ago if I remember correctly (completely off the top of my head though). That's because the Spurs have traditionally been one of the big name teams getting a decent matchup for national TV.

[ChuckD]

Man, I really hope the Spurs don't get moved to another city when they become a lottery team.

Seattle only moved because their arena sucked and their lease was up. IIRC, part of the deal for the last round of renovations of the ATT on the taxpayers was a 5 year extension of their original 25 year lease. That should take them to 2032.

[silverblackfan]

Sad to see. Too bad I live in Seattle, but I will be seeing the Spurs @ home against the Magic next month! Just doing my part.

[EricB]

Seattle only moved because their arena sucked and their lease was up. IIRC, part of the deal for the last round of renovations of the ATT on the taxpayers was a 5 year extension of their original 25 year lease. That should take them to 2032.

If you dont rent a car, hotel or anything else, said taxpayer pays jack squat.

[TheDarkSide.]

was it mentioned also that a lot of people here(idk why?) are rooting for the rangers in the world series, i think ksat12 had a segment on what game they will be watching and people were saying theyd be switching back and forth

[spurs1990]

The top ten poorest cities in the U.S. based on median household income (NBA cities only):
#1 Detroit
#2 Cleveland
#3 Miami
#9 Memphis

Ten poorest cities in U.S. based on % living below poverty level (NBA cities only):
#1 Detroit
#4 Cleveland
#5 Miami
#8 Milwalkee
#9 Philadelphia

But maybe you meant poorest city in terms of interior defense.

Wow ok. Nice stats. Let me rephrase poorest city that doesn't have a 75% black population.

[Sean Cagney]

the economy probably had a louder voice than the people...

lol but true..........

[Creepn]

Wow ok. Nice stats. Let me rephrase poorest city that doesn't have a 75% black population.

The only city on that list that is over 75% black is Detroit. So what now?

[Leonard Curse]

the only reason i believed sequ, is b/c i saw all the empties on tv, but like i said every pacer game ive ever been to has had terrible turnouts so im hoping it was just that

[Leonard Curse]

im glad the spurs org is smart, theyre not going to panic like others unless it gets ridiculous. remember guys SA players call us the greatest fans in the nba so it sucks to see the turnout.

i also understand alot of ppl just cant afford going to games and getting a decent seat its not cheap. Another point is that pop always has started his seasons slow and careless so im sure alot of avrg spurs fans dont know the new season emphasis....and all of SA's little bullshit we live for here at ST

you guys realize that were fanatics in here dont you? lets just make that real clear gentlemen!! :wakeup

[to21]

Wow ok. Nice stats. Let me rephrase poorest city that doesn't have a 75% black population.Wow.

Why don't you go back and edit your post, including the part about the Spurs playing in the Alamodome?

Dumbass.

[TwelveGs210]

Wow ok. Nice stats. Let me rephrase poorest city that doesn't have a 75% black population.
lol, that was cold

[Spursone]

Maybe some of us enjoy watching the game in High Def on our 52 inch LCD flat screen, Pioneer Elite 7.1 Receiver, Cable-with hard drive, and 8 speaker surround with Polk and Definitive Technology. Beer, snacks, free parking, what a deal! I'm thinking of selling tickets to view at my house!

Chill, have fun, it's only game 1! :lobt2::flag:

[TwelveGs210]

Wow ok. Nice stats. Let me rephrase poorest city that doesn't have a 75% black population.
Sounds like this guy is basing his stats off watching "The First 48" because watching that show would lead you to beleive the only white people in the city are cops.

[dbestpro]

Maybe some of us enjoy watching the game in High Def on our 52 inch LCD flat screen, Pioneer Elite 7.1 Receiver, Cable-with hard drive, and 8 speaker surround with Polk and Definitive Technology. Beer, snacks, free parking, what a deal! I'm thinking of selling tickets to view at my house!

Chill, have fun, it's only game 1! :lobt2::flag:

This really has a lot to do with it. The game is better entertainment from home than it is in the upper decks. It's hard to justify paying for a ticket, fighting with traffic, paying for parking, setting next to a lady whose girth invades your space, while sitting in a seat designed for people who are 5-5 150, while trying to find a safe place for your popcorn, as you squint to watch the game, and end up watching the jumbotron so you can see what's really going on.

[kskonn]

Maybe some of us enjoy watching the game in High Def on our 52 inch LCD flat screen, Pioneer Elite 7.1 Receiver, Cable-with hard drive, and 8 speaker surround with Polk and Definitive Technology. Beer, snacks, free parking, what a deal! I'm thinking of selling tickets to view at my house!

Chill, have fun, it's only game 1! :lobt2::flag:

Hey, I have a 96in 1080 P with projector, with Definitive Technology all the around, 7.1, monster remote etc... but I still went to the game! But I definitely know where you are coming from.

There were empty seats, but I think it had more to do with people who had tickets just not going vs. tickets not getting sold. Afterall it was the pacers and it was a pretty boring game. I guess we will have to see how the season progresses.

[Trill Clinton]

Wow ok. Nice stats. Let me rephrase poorest city that doesn't have a 75% black population.


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[AlleyOopNazi]

Who gives a shit! Sales figures show they sold out, thats all that matters. Place could be empty as long as the tickets are sold.

[Spurs Brazil]

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2010/10/29/seats-still-available-for-big-threes-miami-debut-tonight/
Seats still available for ‘Big Three’s’ Miami debut tonight

The Heat box-office still had more than 400 unsold seats for the opener, and a Heat spokeswoman said she does not expect any sellouts at home for the rest of the season thanks to late releases of tickets by the team.

[wontstartdumbthreads]

Sounds like this guy is basing his stats off watching "The First 48" because watching that show would lead you to beleive the only white people in the city are cops.

I think you called it. Spurs1990 is basing his "stats" on network television shows. He probably still thinks that all black kids are just kindhearted scamps that play music in junkyards and deliver moral lessons with their songs.

[LeCrab]

the arena was empty tonight... spurs have bad crowds all the time before the all-star break.. but this was bad

[#2!]

the arena was empty tonight... spurs have bad crowds all the time before the all-star break.. but this was bad

Cleavland without Lebron isn't going to attract much. The place was still pretty loud throughout despite some empty seats, and uninspiring opponent.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Damn, a real shame. There are probably 100,000 of us here in other countries who would gladly fill those seats, but the American economy is in a downward spiral weighed down by debt and people know it. Under those circumstances people tend to hold onto their cash.

Hopefully, it will make it easier for me to find playoff tickets next April... ;)

[TheDarkSide.]

this is such a dumbass thread. were 13th in attendance and it would take years of dwindling at the bottom to be relocated. :rolleyes

[DesignatedT]

it will start picking up once football ends and the games start to have meaning.

[BanditHiro]

it will start picking up once football ends and the games start to have meaning.

add to the fact that the spurs are looking more and more like serious contenders, i would say it will start to fill up more...

[Danny.Zhu]

the arena was empty tonight... spurs have bad crowds all the time before the all-star break.. but this was bad


• Maybe there are more Texas A&M and Baylor football fans among Spurs fans than I thought. But here’s something that left me scratching my head, considering typical attendance patterns and the Spurs’ quick start . You would have thought that a team playing its best basketball in more than two years playing on a Saturday night would have no trouble packing its arena. But not so for the Spurs, who attracted a season-low 16,982 fans to the game Saturday night.

After drawing sellouts for the first two games against Indiana and New Orleans, the Spurs failed to sell out in their next three games before drawing a capacity crowd against Chicago last Wednesday. Saturday night’s attendance was the first time the Spurs failed to attract at least 17,000.

But I would expect that to change Monday night when Dwight Howard and the Magic come to town. And if they don’t sell out for that game, there might be something tremendously significant in that trend. by Tim Griffin

[100%duncan]

If I live in SA I'll watch every spurs game