official heat - magic thread

[rickross]

watch us do our thang out there. bosh always steps it up against dwight, see us smoke tham niggas.

lookat da sidelines ima gon be there for my boys!:king of south beach playa!

[AussieFanKurt]

Are you playing?

[Don Ready]

Are you playing?

No fat fuck can't play.

[in2deep]

this one is going to be ugly.

The Magic are a real team full of stars. Heat are Lebron, Wade and a bunch of rats from the sewer. they gonna get demolished.

[Don Ready]

Officer Ricky

http://www.marclamonthill.com/mlhblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/rickross2.jpg

[Ashy Larry]

lol @ officer ricky ......... fake fat bastard

There's only one Rick Ross ..... and he's South Central's Finest drug dealer.


http://goatmouf.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/freeway-ricky-ross-keep-it-trill-real-rick-ross.jpg


The only drug dealers better than him at that time was Ronald Reagan and Ollie North

[hater]

shut up fat bastard

[rickross]

Are you playing?

nigga i'll be comin of da bench wit a big fat burger in my hand and ima gonn shut dat pussy dwight howard down.

Son I ain't the only one wit rings on spurstalk, u shud know bout it.

[rickross]

shut up fat bastard

u mad i look mad hot on tv and all dem bitches love me? shut up scrub, don teflon in da house!:whine

[TheMACHINE]

Magic wins by 15

[MiamiHeat]

Magic wins by 15

buahahahah

classic laker fan

YOUR RUN IS OVER

[Rummpd]

Don't like either team but Magic win this one easy. Heat blantantly over-rated and soft as charmin inside.

[TheMACHINE]

buahahahah

classic laker fan

YOUR RUN IS OVER

lol 75%

[HeatTheBestEver]

watch us do our thang out there. bosh always steps it up against dwight, see us smoke tham niggas.

lookat da sidelines ima gon be there for my boys!:king of south beach playa!

nigga tell em nigga, nigga we got mothafuckin nigga LeBron and my nigga Wade who dem niggas got besides nigga 1, nigga 2, and nigga 3. Nigga we gon blow these niggas otu cause I said so nigga

we in that thang, boss. Ima be courtside too holla at me playa

[21_Blessings]

buahahahah

classic laker fan

YOUR RUN IS OVER

You sound like a Cav fan 2008-2010.

[Phil Jackson]

You sound like a Cav fan 2008-2010.

Some fan you are. You were nowhere to be found at our ring ceremony

[Don Ready]

Lol officer Ricky

http://hiphopspy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/rick-ross-corrections-officer.jpg

[hater]

Dwight is gonna rape those little bitches

[21_Blessings]

Dwight is gonna rape those little bitches

And then take it up ass in the playoffs. That's how he roll.

[Ghazi]

this one is going to be ugly.

The Magic are a real team full of stars. Heat are Lebron, Wade and a bunch of rats from the sewer. they gonna get demolished.

Name a star on the Magic besides Dwight.

[Killakobe81]

And people were complaining about the Lakers ring ceremony? All this hoopla for the opening home game?

[j.dizzle]

:lmao I only caught the last half hour. Was the whole hour dedicated to Miami? & LOL they have the NBA finals stage set up with Magic & the espn crew. This shit hilarious.

[SAtown]

This dicksucking is worse than showing the Lakers address the crowd one by one. It's sad to see the NBA become like this

[spurs_2108]

Wow do the heat deserve a 30 minute intro?

[kamikazi_player]

LOL, who thought of Phil Collins "feeling in the air tonight" as a good introduction song?

[kamikazi_player]

btw, I like how the Miami Heat were introduced.

[j.dizzle]

Hahahahaha im literally laughing out loud. First they jack Bostons song, then they have a GQ photoshoot on the bigscreen & then they end with nas "you can hate me now". Tackiest shit ive ever seen

[dbestpro]

Intro is pretty lame. From now on Miami should be referred to as Lil' LA.

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't really care who wins, should be a good game..I'll be very encouraged if Vince plays well..

[dbestpro]

Quick whistle is an ominous sign.

[j.dizzle]

Dwight should get 30 FGA's haha his post work is still pretty ugly but you can tell he can get whatever he wants

[dbestpro]

Lewis seems to always suck in big games.

[dbestpro]

Orlando needs to loosen up. Playin way too tight.

[HarlemHeat37]

Vince can't get any penetration vs. Lebron, just like Pierce couldn't..they have to become spot-up shooters..serious problems for both teams..we'll see how Orlando adjusts..

[Gutter92]

Lewis seems to always suck in big games.

game 2 in the regular season

they gotta win this one, could decide if they make the playoffs or not

[dbestpro]

game 2 in the regular season

they gotta win this one, could decide if they make the playoffs or not

This game counts as much as game 82. Big game environment (of which this is) seems to always bring out the worse in Lewis.

[Dex]

Is Lebron wearing fangs?

[Double-Up]

lol at Magic sucking his teeth...fat fuck.

[ogait]

Miami seems to be happy letting Howard go 1 on 1 all the time in the post. They are protecting the 3 and avoiding penetration very well.

[BoricuaCJA]

lol, I love it when Marc Jackson said "Robin to Batman!"(LBJ to Wade) ha ha!

[HarlemHeat37]

Howard is going to win MVP, as I predicted..his jump shot looks smooth, scary..

[Killakobe81]

Dwight may not be the best player in this game he may not even be 3rd ...
but he had the best 1st quarter of anyone.

he will need more help on offense for te Magic to have a chance to win this one ...

Lebron played some real good defense at the end of that quarter ...he is a MUCH better defender than Wade ...

[AussieFanKurt]

lol at dwights technical. having a nice clap

[Killakobe81]

Is Lebron wearing fangs?

yep he is dressing up for halloween as one of the emo vampires from twilight ..

[ogait]

I thing it was fortunate for Orlando to be able to even the score. Besides Howard no one has a rhythm going in Orlando.

[Dex]

yep he is dressing up for halloween as one of the emo vampires from twilight ..

:lmao

[The Franchise]

I hate hearing Mark Jackson.

[Jelloisjigglin]

I hate hearing Mark Jackson.


Lol he's such a tool.

[Killakobe81]

I thing it was fortunate for Orlando to be able to even the score. Besides Howard no one has a rhythm going in Orlando.

indeed. and the lineup they out now is shaky on offense JJ is a spot up shooter the rest need guys to set them up. Bass looks good. always liked him.

[dbestpro]

I will be very happy when Van Gundy and Jackson move to the coaching arena.

[Killakobe81]

I will be very happy when Van Gundy and Jackson move to the coaching arena.

I agree together they suck but it's JVG ...Mark has his moments ...IMO he just gets to crazy with his praise of kobe, lebron wade etc.

[AussieFanKurt]

I will be very happy when Van Gundy and Jackson move to the coaching arena.

I do like Jackson as a commentator but all he's done this game is suck wade and lebrons dick

[dbestpro]

Arroyo made Lewis freak.

[Killakobe81]

Lewis playing like a$$ i dont trust him ...overpaid.

[ogait]

Howard is going to win MVP, as I predicted..his jump shot looks smooth, scary..

I don't want to take credit from Howard but not being double teamed and being defended by Anthony and Zilgauskas, he's just doing what he has to.

[dbestpro]

Yeah, over the back and knocking the shit out of someone is not a foul Van Gundy.

[mystargtr34]

Chris Bosh is so god damn soft... he gets bumped off his spot with or without the ball and he just refuses to fight and push back... he just gives it up by either going out to set a pick or shoot a step back fade away jumper.

[mystargtr34]

Nice defense by James Jones there.. clean block on Carter

[Killakobe81]

That was a foul a foul i hate the rotation by SVG bass gave them a lot more than Rashard ...

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't want to take credit from Howard but not being double teamed and being defended by Anthony and Zilgauskas, he's just doing what he has to.

I'm not basing it on his point totals in this game or anything, I'm basing it on the fact that his jump shot looks good and looked good for the entire preseason..

Howard with a respectable jump shot is scary..

Finally, that pussy Bosh drives..he made a living out of drawing fouls and driving in Toronto, he's been extremely soft in Miami so far..

[Killakobe81]

Everybody calling Bosh soft ... Lewis makes him look like He-man in comparison.

[Killakobe81]

Good defense by Magic in the paint. they sre sucking at the 3 point line but playing well in the paint.

[HarlemHeat37]

Ilguaskas making outside shots is huge for Miami's offense, and it makes up for the fact that he can barely move on D..however, he's fresh right now, if they don't play other bigs, he won't last until the 2nd half of the season..he looked done in Cleveland last year, so they pretty much have to limit his minutes at some point, even though he's a much better fit than Anthony..

[j.dizzle]

Chris Bosh is so god damn soft... he gets bumped off his spot with or without the ball and he just refuses to fight and push back... he just gives it up by either going out to set a pick or shoot a step back fade away jumper.
:lmao He was acting like he was top dog this summer. I dont even notice that hes on the court most of the time.

[Killakobe81]

Ilguaskas making outside shots is huge for Miami's offense, and it makes up for the fact that he can barely move on D..however, he's fresh right now, if they don't play other bigs, he won't last until the 2nd half of the season..he looked done in Cleveland last year, so they pretty much have to limit his minutes at some point, even though he's a much better fit than Anthony..

i think they shoulsd switch put a smaller man on z like lewis useless a$$

[Killakobe81]

Qrich is ass too ... he hasnt been really good since clips he has become a 3pt chucker

[Killakobe81]

Good game though not very exciting. I would of loved to see this with noo one coming off of back2back

[HarlemHeat37]

Horrible call on Nelson..

[Killakobe81]

That was a bullshit call

[Quit Hatin']

refs just doing what they are supposed to do.

[Poirot]

Look's like someone's been working on his game during the offseason

[lefty]

Magic wins by 15
Sig bet ?

[AussieFanKurt]

Typical call for wade

[Killakobe81]

WTF why Gortat handling the ball?
Wade looks good

[DeadlyDynasty]

-Dwight Howard best player in this half
-Dwyane Wade is ridiculous
-Bosh is unspectacular
-LeBron is killing the offense

[Quit Hatin']

spoelstra's rotation is garbage

[Killakobe81]

Let the media dyck sucking begin ...Dwight, lebron and Wade pull out your schlongs ...

[ogait]

Besides Howard Magic offence has been just awful.

[j.dizzle]

Nelson & Duhon are pretty shitty PG's IMO. Orl needs a pass first PG. Nelson has had some big games but he also chucks way too much. Howard would prob avg 30 pts a game easy if he had a PG like Nash or Paul spoonfeeding him.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Let the media dyck sucking begin ...Dwight, lebron and Wade pull out your schlongs ...

if he continues playing like this the only one sucking him off will be Maverick Carter.......................or pretty much all the SAH fans.

The guy is so damn talented but when he goes in the game the offense is stagnant. Wade is insane though

[Killakobe81]

Besides Howard Magic offence has been just awful.

Heat defense has been good and the Magic ofense has been shit. howard, and bass only consistent players for Magic they need JJ back.

I must admit Lebron has improved his defense a great deal. Not DPOY, MJ or kobe when focused or Pippeen or young rodman good... but he has come a looong way props to him.

[024]

howard's bank shots were pretty surprising.

[j.dizzle]

Mr. 110 million dollar man Rashard is fuckin balllllllllllllllin. 0-3, 0 pts, 2 turnovers. If he continues to play like this then Orl will cruise to the title. Luckiest player in the league, cant believes he pulls in almost 20 a year to chuck 3's

[AussieFanKurt]

Lewis is such a dud

[Killakobe81]

Nelson & Duhon are pretty shitty PG's IMO. Orl needs a pass first PG. Nelson has had some big games but he also chucks way too much. Howard would prob avg 30 pts a game easy if he had a PG like Nash or Paul spoonfeeding him.

he is too small (nelson) and Duhon is ass crust.
there was a play where he missed dwight alone on the pnr for a lob ...but then i realized he is so small he probably missed it.

Stu scott I used to like in his old sportscenter Boo ya days ...but he has deterioated in to Ahmad Rashad now that he is a studio host for games. i hate him on MNF too.

As for Orlando tough to see them as better than the heat with Rashard and nelson as starters ...i would trade Gortat, Carter, and a first rounder to Denver for Melo and Smith

PG nelson
SG Smith
SF melo
PF Rashard
C howard

bench
PG duhon
SG Reddick
SF Pietrus
PF Bass
C anderson

Find another deal for a PG and i would like it better and you could bench JR for Pietrus for more defense.

Denver gets a center in Gortat Carter moves to SF or you can play afflalo there ...

not saying denver would do this they get no young talent so i would say no ...but i think orlando needs another reliable scorer for Dwight.

[Killakobe81]

Lewis is such a dud

As good as dwight looks ...Lewis that bad.

Dwight has been chasing blocks that is why no boards but no excuses ...

[Killakobe81]

Wade is THAT ni$$a tonight ...

[DeadlyDynasty]

Wade is THAT ni$$a tonight ...

[Purch]

Wade is THAT ni$$a tonight ...
Wade has been that ***** for his whole career.

[HarlemHeat37]

Miami is working like I imagined it..

Wade- primary scorer..
Lebron- facilitator and defensive anchor..

That's how it'll have to be all year..

[024]

damn, the scary thing is that this is probably miami at only 80% potential.

[Venti Quattro]

LOL 12-0 run to start the third

[Daddy_Of_All_Trolls]

game over. back to the drawing board Orlando, good game Heat.

[Venti Quattro]

LOL 6 to 20 point lead in 3 minutes

[HarlemHeat37]

damn, the scary thing is that this is probably miami at only 80% potential.

Yup..80% is probably generous too..they're also missing their best shooter/role player..

[midnightpulp]

if he continues playing like this the only one sucking him off will be Maverick Carter.......................or pretty much all the SAH fans.

The guy is so damn talented but when he goes in the game the offense is stagnant. Wade is insane though

???

Can't agree with that. Lebron is doing a very good job this game of running the break and finding shooters and cutters within the half-court set.

Arguably, being a pseudo Magic Johnson is Lebron's true role, rather than being a scoring machine like MJ, Kobe, etc...

And Magic himself said he's running a great floor game tonight.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Miami is working like I imagined it..

Wade- primary scorer..
Lebron- facilitator and defensive anchor..

That's how it'll have to be all year..

Agreed. Their defense is great right now

[j.dizzle]

he is too small (nelson) and Duhon is ass crust.
there was a play where he missed dwight alone on the pnr for a lob ...but then i realized he is so small he probably missed it.

Stu scott I used to like in his old sportscenter Boo ya days ...but he has deterioated in to Ahmad Rashad now that he is a studio host for games. i hate him on MNF too.

As for Orlando tough to see them as better than the heat with Rashard and nelson as starters ...i would trade Gortat, Carter, and a first rounder to Denver for Melo and Smith

PG nelson
SG Smith
SF melo
PF Rashard
C howard

bench
PG duhon
SG Reddick
SF Pietrus
PF Bass
C anderson

Find another deal for a PG and i would like it better and you could bench JR for Pietrus for more defense.

Denver gets a center in Gortat Carter moves to SF or you can play afflalo there ...

not saying denver would do this they get no young talent so i would say no ...but i think orlando needs another reliable scorer for Dwight.
:lol I feel you, Orl is wasting Dwights prime if they dont go out & get a reliable 2nd option. VC & Lewis can look great in one game then disappear for the next 5. As is, Orl will always be a top 3 team in the East but nothing more.

[ogait]

4 fouls on Howard, heat playing great D and scoring in transition, 20 pts game, can't see them coming back from this.

[Quit Hatin']

looks like celtics coming out of the east again. non-issue.

[DeadlyDynasty]

lol Howard 5 fouls

[HarlemHeat37]

Howard gets more shitty defensive calls than anybody in the NBA outside of Yao and Oden, which makes his defensive impact even more amazing..

[ogait]

Fuck Nelson he only looks for his shot, shitty point guard.

[midnightpulp]

On an unrelated note: lol @ Rondo, 24 assists.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Good to see Orlando's back in ECF form

[j.dizzle]

Fuck Nelson he only looks for his shot, shitty point guard.
:lol Opposite of what Orl needs. This midget just runs around in circles & chucks.

[resistanze]

LMAO @ that technical. God the NBA is dumb.

[HarlemHeat37]

The NBA is just ridiculous..it's funny that they would use the fans as the excuse for this..which fans are complaining about player reactions?..

[midnightpulp]

David Stern is a faggot. This tech shit is ridiculous.

[picc84]

Holy shit! That was the worst tech i've ever seen. :lol

Stern :lmao

[HarlemHeat37]

Orlando could obviously use Carmelo or Chris Paul, those are usually the 2 trade scenarios you hear for them, but getting Steve Nash could be the most realistic option, especially after what he said about the Suns' chances this year..

[j.dizzle]

Somebody making bankkkkkk this year hahahaha these guys paying 2 g's a tech this year I think. Ofcourse they have a shot of Sterns gay ass when the fans are chanting "refs you suck" haha

[Jelloisjigglin]

On an unrelated note: lol @ Rondo, 24 assists.

Damn and he had a triple double too. Definitely the best player on the Celtics imo

[Venti Quattro]

LeBron bit his nails and got called for a tech

[hhml]

The NBA is run by trolls. Stern and his goonies are a joke lol.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Haslem is a perfect role player for this team. I'm happy he stayed, always been one of my favorite players in the league

[Cry Havoc]

Wade is disgusting.

[HarlemHeat37]

Boston was lucky that Flash was rusty as fuck in his 1st game:lol..

[DeadlyDynasty]

omg sick move by Wade....any doubt who's team this is?

[Cry Havoc]

Haslem is a perfect role player for this team. I'm happy he stayed, always been one of my favorite players in the league

Very underrated.

[Cry Havoc]

Anyone who thinks the Heat isn't scary as a team needs to watch this game. Holy crap. They're humiliating Orlando.

[Cry Havoc]

55 through 3.

I suspect there will be very little Laker smack talk after this game.

[024]

to be fair, howard does have 5 fouls. he should be in there getting the boards.

[Purch]

Lol at Wade or Lebron being sidekicks to anyone.

It's more like Batman-Superman

[mystargtr34]

omg sick move by Wade....any doubt who's team this is?

No doubt.. LeBron IMO.

[Cry Havoc]

omg sick move by Wade....any doubt who's team this is?

:lmao at Laker fans sucking Wade's dick to denigrate Lebron.

The most desperate, ego-driven fanbase in all of sports.

[midnightpulp]

Miami's defense is legit. One thing to consider, however, is that it's still early in the season, so it's doubtful they can sustain this kind of energy over 82 games. But if they summon up this effort in the post-season, they will represent the East, despite a relatively weak frontline. The type of defense they're showing here will skullfuck Allen and Paul Pierce.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol Only Laker fan gives a fuck about that..all they do is bring down Gasol to elevate Kobe anyways, this is what they're accustomed to..

[Jelloisjigglin]

:lmao at Laker fans sucking Wade's dick to denigrate Lebron.

The most desperate, ego-driven fanbase in all of sports.

Wow...somehow you came to this conclusion based on that comment? What an imagination you have.

[sexinthatsx]

I think this game was designed to purposely humiliate Stan Van Gundy for those comments he made when Bosh and James signed with the Heat.

[TinTin]

Lmao did big z just show the Tech sign

[Cry Havoc]

Miami's defense is legit. One thing to consider, however, is that it's still early in the season, so it's doubtful they can sustain this kind of energy over 82 games.

It really depends on their conditioning. The Spurs were able to maintain defensive intensity over 82 games*.



* Minus about 50 damn 3rd quarters.

[Quit Hatin']

hold up.

[TinTin]

What if Lebron starts dancing again?

[Venti Quattro]

:lmao at Laker fans sucking Wade's dick to denigrate Lebron.

The most desperate, ego-driven fanbase in all of sports.

San Antonio Heat fan starting to trash talk. Non-issue

[HarlemHeat37]

Bosh's defense has been outstanding in the last 2 games..Anthony and Bosh have both been very good at defending the p&r so far..

[Quit Hatin']

o ya


as you all know, I left the bandwagon AFTER they won the title, which doesn't make sense, but I didn't like the team they had, and I started to dislike Wade, because of all the Jordan hype..

but now as they struggled early, I started getting the Heat feeling back, and when they got Eddie Jones, that sparked shit for me..so they're my Eas team with SA as my West team..

I've also gained my respect for Wade back, because of all the hype other players are getting..I think he's the 2nd best player in the NBA, next to Kobe, and his game is a lot more complete than guys like Arenas and Melo who are getting hyped, and he can close out games a lot better than that choker Lebron..


http://www.basketbrains.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1391

[picc84]

Magic sure look good blowing out those crappy teams.

[j.dizzle]

LOL you know whats sad, Orl could of used Vince Carter in the 2nd half hahaha. I feel bad that Orl has to rely on Lewis to score points & play defense

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lmao at Laker fans sucking Wade's dick to denigrate Lebron.

The most desperate, ego-driven fanbase in all of sports.

So, by your rationale is it safe to assume that you're polishing LBJ's pud by hastily jumping to his defense?:rollin

[mystargtr34]

Heat defense has been good and the Magic ofense has been shit. howard, and bass only consistent players for Magic they need JJ back.

I must admit Lebron has improved his defense a great deal. Not DPOY, MJ or kobe when focused or Pippeen or young rodman good... but he has come a looong way props to him.

Lol come on LeBron has a bigger impact on that side of the court than Kobe did.

[Cry Havoc]

So, by your rationale is it safe to assume that you're polishing LBJ's pud by hastily jumping to his defense?:rollin

Get real, Laker fan. This isn't about me, this is about you and your obsession with LeBron.

How many threads have I made about LeBron? 0. How many threads have Laker fan made or mentioned LeBron in after 1 game of the regular season?

[Quit Hatin']

get real, san antonio heat fan. this is about your obsession with kobe, lakers, and laker fans.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Get real, Laker fan. This isn't about me, this is about you and your obsession with LeBron.

How many threads have I made about LeBron? 0. How many threads have Laker fan made or mentioned LeBron in after 1 game of the regular season?

Yet you felt compelled to jump to his defense when there was no need to...
Why? just curious...

[ElNono]

What's Lebroom doing out there with a 26 point lead?

[Cry Havoc]

Yet you felt compelled to jump to his defense when there was no need to...
Why? just curious...

Because someone made an inane, pointless comment like, "this is obviously Wade's team".

I enjoy laughing at Laker fan when they show a general lack of NBA knowledge. So how old was Kobe when he played Jordan in Washington again? :lol

[DeadlyDynasty]

Because someone made an inane, pointless comment like, "this is obviously Wade's team".


Is that why Wade's a captain and Lebron is not? Who out of the big 3 was drated by Miami? Are you really that obtuse to argue this point? If you wanna disregard all that (which I'm sure you will, because it basically destroys any argument you have) and go by stats, who is the leading scorer on this team?



I enjoy laughing at Laker fan when they show a general lack of NBA knowledge. So how old was Kobe when he played Jordan in Washington again? :lol

Care to explain what you're getting at here? I think you have me confused with another Laker fan.
You're not very good at this are you?

[Gutter92]

I Who out of the big 3 was drated by Miami?

Uh...since Fisher is a leader in LA...

who between Kobe and Fisher was drafted by LA?

:toast

[DeadlyDynasty]

Uh...since Fisher is a leader in LA...

who between Kobe and Fisher was drafted by LA?

:toast

"El Presidente"

[midnightpulp]

Deadly is a good fan. He's not a faggot like Quit Hatin', TheMachine, Cobbler, Koolaids, and the other usual suspect frontrunners.

[icem]

damn the heat are adjusting and becoming scary much more quickly than i anticipated

[Venti Quattro]

Miami's going to be very scary at home.

[Killakobe81]

Lol come on LeBron has a bigger impact on that side of the court than Kobe did.

Are you serious? Lebron started playing defense ... what last season?
No need to exaggerate Lebron has a chance at GOAT staatus but in the Olympics who guarded the best player ...let me know and get back to me.

[midnightpulp]

Are you serious? Lebron started playing defense ... what last season?
No need to exaggerate Lebron has a chance at GOAT staatus but in the Olympics who guarded the best player ...let me know and get back to me.

I don't think he worded it correctly. Presently, Lebron is a better defender. When he's dialed in, he's arguably the best perimeter defender in the league.

Real talk, no trolling, Kobe's overall defensive impact is greatly exaggerated. Many "experts," (I use the term loosely, but it is what is) have stated he's been making the NBA defensive teams primarily out of reputation. He locks down late in the 4th, sure, but Kobe often plays average defense before he goes into "doberman" mode.

It's understandable, he's an offensive player first, a defensive player second, so he needs to wisely distribute his energy throughout the game, but Kobe hasn't played consistent, elite level defense since '00.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I don't think he worded it correctly. Presently, Lebron is a better defender. When he's dialed in, he's arguably the best perimeter defender in the league.

Real talk, no trolling, Kobe's overall defensive impact is greatly exaggerated. Many "experts," (I use the term loosely, but it is what is) have stated he's been making the NBA defensive teams primarily out of reputation. He locks down late in the 4th, sure, but Kobe often plays average defense before he goes into "doberman" mode.

It's understandable, he's an offensive player first, a defensive player second, so he needs to wisely distribute his energy throughout the game, but Kobe has played consistent, elite level defense since '00.

I agree here. LeBron has always had the tools to be a great defender, but he never really applied himself till 2008-09. When his head is in the game, he's damn near impossible to score on.

[Venti Quattro]

LeBron will have that opportunity now because he's got two people who can take offensive chores off his hands.

[midnightpulp]

I agree here. LeBron has always had the tools to be a great defender, but he never really applied himself till 2008-09. When his head is in the game, he's damn near impossible to score on.

All that's left for this dude is a post game. Wonder if he'll ever develop one?

[DeadlyDynasty]

All that's left for this dude is a post game. Wonder if he'll ever develop one?

eventually, he's too skilled not to

[midnightpulp]

LeBron will have that opportunity now because he's got two people who can take offensive chores off his hands.

Yeah. Lebron needs to be the all-tool guy for this team. Wade should be the primary option, Lebron the playmaker and primary defender.

Good averages for Lebron would be 19p, 9a, 7r, 50%, while playing defense like a motherfucker and only dominating the offense when necessary (if Wade's on the bench, etc...).

[picc84]

lol at everyone who thought lebron will average a trip dub with this team. If Wade and Bosh never handle the ball at all that might happen.

[Killakobe81]

I don't think he worded it correctly. Presently, Lebron is a better defender. When he's dialed in, he's arguably the best perimeter defender in the league.

Real talk, no trolling, Kobe's overall defensive impact is greatly exaggerated. Many "experts," (I use the term loosely, but it is what is) have stated he's been making the NBA defensive teams primarily out of reputation. He locks down late in the 4th, sure, but Kobe often plays average defense before he goes into "doberman" mode.

It's understandable, he's an offensive player first, a defensive player second, so he needs to wisely distribute his energy throughout the game, but Kobe hasn't played consistent, elite level defense since '00.

I agree Lebron has a way more consistent impact on the game defensively. But if i need one stop not sure he would be my choice. My point is I think you are overrating how good he is and i dont agreeKobe hasnt been an elite defender since 2000 I agree he has got defensive awards off of reputation ...
But Kobe played great defense after 2000 that is a lot of exaggeration

[crc21209]

:lol So where are all those people here who were sayin the Magic were going to spank that Miami ass?

[midnightpulp]

I agree Lebron has a way more consistent impact on the game defensively. But if i need one stop not sure he would be my choice. My point is I think you are overrating how good he is and i dont agreeKobe hasnt been an elite defender since 2000 I agree he has got defensive awards off of reputation ...
But Kobe played great defense after 2000 that is a lot of exaggeration

I never said he didn't. I'm talking elite level, Bowen, Artest territory. He can play elite in stretches, but I don't think his performance on the defensive end has merited first team selections year after year.

Lakersground post from way back in '05 from a Lakers fan:

"but my basis of kobe being a overrated defender is watching the games. Don't get me wrong, kobe is a great defender, when he wants to be. I understand he has to carry the offense, but I definitely see his defense slip alot, whether it's from conserving energy or what not. He gambles to much, and plays the lanes to much. Especially the last 2 years. He needs to concentrate on staying with his man more. Again, he can be as good a defender as anyone, and he was 3-4 years ago. But as of now, it's mostly from his past reputation that he's considered a great defender."

And nothing has really changed much from '05. Again, it's not a knock on him. Jordan was really the only SG who was elite on both ends. Kobe's an elite offensive player and a strong defender, but not the best perimeter defender in the league, or of his era, like 21_Blessings and a few other Kobe fanboys have claimed.

[Killakobe81]

I never said he didn't. I'm talking elite level, Bowen, Artest territory. He can play elite in stretches, but I don't think his performance on the defensive end has merited first team selections year after year.

Lakersground post from way back in '05 from a Lakers fan:

"but my basis of kobe being a overrated defender is watching the games. Don't get me wrong, kobe is a great defender, when he wants to be. I understand he has to carry the offense, but I definitely see his defense slip alot, whether it's from conserving energy or what not. He gambles to much, and plays the lanes to much. Especially the last 2 years. He needs to concentrate on staying with his man more. Again, he can be as good a defender as anyone, and he was 3-4 years ago. But as of now, it's mostly from his past reputation that he's considered a great defender."

And nothing has really changed much from '05. Again, it's not a knock on him. Jordan was really the only SG who was elite on both ends. Kobe's an elite offensive player and a strong defender, but not the best perimeter defender in the league, or of his era, like 21_Blessings and a few other Kobe fanboys have claimed.

I conceded some of the first teams were NOT wrranted for sometimesy defense ...but i also dont think Lebron is playing Bowen artest defnse yet either ...yet.

[Killakobe81]

I never said he didn't. I'm talking elite level, Bowen, Artest territory. He can play elite in stretches, but I don't think his performance on the defensive end has merited first team selections year after year.

Lakersground post from way back in '05 from a Lakers fan:

"but my basis of kobe being a overrated defender is watching the games. Don't get me wrong, kobe is a great defender, when he wants to be. I understand he has to carry the offense, but I definitely see his defense slip alot, whether it's from conserving energy or what not. He gambles to much, and plays the lanes to much. Especially the last 2 years. He needs to concentrate on staying with his man more. Again, he can be as good a defender as anyone, and he was 3-4 years ago. But as of now, it's mostly from his past reputation that he's considered a great defender."

And nothing has really changed much from '05. Again, it's not a knock on him. Jordan was really the only SG who was elite on both ends. Kobe's an elite offensive player and a strong defender, but not the best perimeter defender in the league, or of his era, like 21_Blessings and a few other Kobe fanboys have claimed.

Oh and LOL quoting lakersground i have an account there some good posters but a bunch of Kobe cocksucker and kobe haters why you think i post here more often than there?

[midnightpulp]

Oh and LOL quoting lakersground i have an account there some good posters but a bunch of Kobe cocksucker and kobe haters why you think i post here more often than there?

He's spot on with that observation, though.

[Killakobe81]

He's spot on with that observation, though.

he made some good points but i also think MJ was overrated on defense too in fact Kobe plays like MJ after the baseball on defense ...but everyone acts like MJ was on pippen's level as a perimeter defnder his whole career which is bull but whatever.

Back to my point Lebron can be artest/Bowen question is will he?

[midnightpulp]

he made some good points but i also think MJ was overrated on defense too in fact Kobe plays like MJ after the baseball on defense ...but everyone acts like MJ was on pippen's level as a perimeter defnder his whole career which is bull but whatever.

Back to my point Lebron can be artest/Bowen question is will he?

Probably not over the course of 82 games, but in the playoffs, he definitely needs to be Bowen/Artest. He can, but it's up to him.

[MiamiHeat]

Boston is fucking lucky Wade was rusty, the team just had a bad game due to it being their first game.

and even then, they barely beat Miami.

Miami is going to beat Boston next time they meet.

[Booharv]

Chris Bosh is a pair of goggles away from being a homeless man's Horace Grant so far this season.

[Johnnysee]

Boston is fucking lucky Wade was rusty, the team just had a bad game due to it being their first game.

and even then, they barely beat Miami.

Miami is going to beat Boston next time they meet.


For MiamiHeat:


http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134492



http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135942



http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147754

[MiamiHeat]

I have a few more than those, brah. You forgot one of the best ones, PTCruiser thread.

[daspurs]

I have a few more than those, brah. You forgot one of the best ones, PTCruiser thread.

BREH .. your a hoe

[MiamiHeat]

BREH .. your a hoe

UM > Cowboys

[Johnnysee]

I have a few more than those, brah. You forgot one of the best ones, PTCruiser thread.

So you made all those stories up as a "joke"? Why did you delete your whole post in the thread where you cheated on your girl? It seems you were embarrassed and had hope no one would quote your post.

[MiamiHeat]

So you made all those stories up as a "joke"? Why did you delete your whole post in the thread where you cheated on your girl? It seems you were embarrassed and had hope no one would quote your post.

:lmao:lmao

[Cane]

Hard to find excuses for the Magic's effort, not like they're tired since its their 2nd game of the season and they didn't play heavy minutes from destroying the Arenas-less Wizards. This was a game that the Magic FO were really preparing for, lol @ SVG and Otis shit talking over the summer...something about coaches and GM's talking shit when they haven't won a ring seems pathetic. Particularly Otis after all the questionable contracts and deals they've given.

While the Heat's defense was incredibly impressive their shot selection was shitty since they shot so many long jumpshots...imo thats what opposing teams want to happen rather than give 'em points in the paint.

Dwight looks better offensively but tonight showed when he focuses on that end he sacrifices way too much on the other and time will tell if he's got a respectable jumper or if that shit was basically luck. I can see why Stan Van Gundy had limited his touches in the past since they need Dwight to focus on defense and rebounding --- no one on their team comes close in those areas.

Magic need a legitimate star thats a playmaker and can create his own shot but I don't see it happening considering the Magic's assets and their history (Wince, Shard, etc). Jameer looks like a horrible fit next to Dwight and they have too many roleplayers with the same skills and none of them can really penetrate the lane or pass well. I don't think Melo or Igoudala really addresses both their passing and shot creation problems but they would be an upgrade...crazy that even with one of those players that the Magic still wouldn't have enough...a healthy CP3 and D-will seem like much better fits but good luck getting those franchises to deal 'em.

[MiamiHeat]

Miami's offense needs a lot of work and I am still hoping that Spoelstra will not need to be fired....

[Johnnysee]

:lmao:lmao

That is your response? Well that was easy. It's nice to know you talk a big game, but that you are a pathetic loser in real life. If you did make that up, that makes your life even more pathetic.