Tony Parker has signed a multi-year contract extension.

[MaNu4Tres]

The best thing is that the Spurs didn't have to overpay and Parker has contract in line with being one of the top players at his position. It works for both sides. :tu

Exactly.

I was wrong about Parker's side wanting too much money ( that was my initial assumption).

I never believed Spurs would pay Parker max money, and at that same time I never thought Parkers side would agree to the type of deal he did agree to. Which is why I'm very surprised and happy that it worked out for everyone so soon.

[Pauleta14]

Whatever the new CBA becomes, this deal will also help the spurs FO for the futures negociations (Hill, Blair or free agents)!!

[ElNono]

Great stuff... I was pretty sure they were gonna get it done, but didn't think it would happen this early. $12.5m/season is truly a bargain for a player like TP. :tu

[Nathan89]

I was just about to bump my trade g.hill if tony resigns thread but I decided against it. I for one am all for trading g.hill but I would probably wait until the off-season. I would definitely be open to it and if the right offer came along I wouldn't hesitate.

[ElNono]

It's too early to tell given the looming CBA changes, but the Spurs actually get a $1m discount and if you run the numbers with the same CBA structure that we have now, they would have been under the lux tax line again next season, right?

EDIT: Dice would need to come off the books for that, and it's a player option, not team option.

[objective]

I'm pleased.

And shocked that he signed so cheap. I thought a reasonable expecatation would just have been a continuation of the 10% raises in his current contract, but he took quite a bit less. I was wrong about that.

[nbaman99]

4 year 50 mill, totally worth it. Great work by Spurs FO again. Gospurs go

[Pauleta14]

I'm pleased.

And shocked that he signed so cheap. I thought a reasonable expecatation would just have been a continuation of the 10% raises in his current contract, but he took quite a bit less. I was wrong about that.


Actually, he DID have a pay raise in a way,

His actual contract is 66M$/6 years = 11M$/year

Next contract will be 50M$/ 4 years = 12,5M$/year

[objective]

Actually, he DID have a pay raise in a way,

His actual contract is 66M$/6 years = 11M$/year

Next contract will be 50M$/ 4 years = 12,5M$/year

i'm talking about the raises from year to year.

in 2010-11, shamsports has him at 13.5

basketball reference has him getting 1.05 raises the last couple of seasons.

a four year straightline continuation of where he is this year would be 4 years and like 63 million

[Chieflion]

Nice contract.

[Penya]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
There is ESPN. There is Internet. There is Twitter. There is telegraph. And yet, Tim Duncan hadn't heard of TP's extension until just now.

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Tim Duncan said he was hoping Parker contract talks had lingered longer: “That way I could mess with him. Now, I can’t do that.” #spurs

:lol

[SenorSpur]

I never expected the Spurs to offer him max money. Obviously, Tony was well aware of and honest about his value and didn't expect one either. Knowing how forthright and direct the Spurs are, I'm sure this wasn't an issue. Now TP is happy and the Spurs have a contract that isn't an albatross to the franchise. The Spurs show again, why they are THE most astute FO in sports.

[Killakobe81]

Congrats spur fans. But if i am a team with space Hill is my target. you can offer him a starting job in a media friendly town. i dont think he is a true PG ... but i like him a lot he would be good in the triangle. Hell IF im the clips i take him over Baron ...

[lefty]

I wanted to make it "short"...

But to answer you, I didn't mention those two teams, because they are so much "way over the cap", with not enough cap room next summer, that they were not even relevant in term of "prospection"...

I thought about it, but I don't see anyway Tony could have joined any of those teams... The only way was a sign and trade, but do you really imagine Pop accepting to trade Tony to the Lakers?

Feel free to prove me wrong! :toast
Tony to the Lakers ?

THAT would have fucked us :lol

[Killakobe81]

Great fron-office. the Lakers arent the only team that can get players to sign for less(artest/Odom) not a bad contract.

[dbestpro]

Congrats spur fans. But if i am a team with space Hill is my target. you can offer him a starting job in a media friendly town. i dont think he is a true PG ... but i like him a lot he would be good in the triangle. Hell IF im the clips i take him over Baron ...

This is true, which makes Hill a trade target for whatever holes develop as the season progresses. If he stays with the team for the season, then he could get moved for a high draft pick.

[pjjrfan]

Great news, Ididn'twant to see Tony in another uniform. I'm still going to ride his ass whenever he has a bad game, but bottom line I love him being a spur.

[Brazil]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157434

This is the article and thread that caused so much heartburn, doubt, discussion and misunderstanding.

that was a great thread

[Brazil]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
There is ESPN. There is Internet. There is Twitter. There is telegraph. And yet, Tim Duncan hadn't heard of TP's extension until just now.

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Tim Duncan said he was hoping Parker contract talks had lingered longer: “That way I could mess with him. Now, I can’t do that.” #spurs

:lol

Tim is priceless

[mattyc]

Just brilliant news. People love to hate on TP but he's a star and will be fundamental once TD and Manu retire. I really hope we see TP retire a one club player. Great move from the FO and will remove alot of speculation from the media to allow the team to focus on winning.

[carina_gino20]

Great news. :)

[rascal]

Not at all surprising. I said all along as long as Pop is with the spurs Parker will also be.

[Josepatches_]

Now it's time to trade his ass.

[Pauleta14]

i'm talking about the raises from year to year.

in 2010-11, shamsports has him at 13.5

basketball reference has him getting 1.05 raises the last couple of seasons.

a four year straightline continuation of where he is this year would be 4 years and like 63 million


I agree and understood you the 1st time!

That's why I said "in a way" (on the global contract)... :toast

[peskypesky]

GREAT FUCKING NEWS!!!!!!!! So glad that Tony's going to do the right thing and stay with the Spurs.

[lefty]

Hopefully TP will focus on basketball during the next Spurs game

[bresilhac]

Congratulations Tony. You have put up with a lot of bs leading up to this signing and you're worth every dime of the contract without a doubt. Have a great season and more power to you.

[analyzed]

$ 12 M a year for four years is just about right. I'm fine with this. If it was anything close to a max contract over 5 years that would have been a different story

[jag]

I'm amazed how every thread turns into an RJ pissing contest. It's like Scola 2.0.

I heard about Tony's contract earlier today and it's pretty unbelievable. I always hoped he would resign but i assumed we wouldn't hear anything till much later in the season. Hell of a deal.

I wonder if the Spurs think they can turn Hill into a full time SG. He's too talented to be a backup PG, yet he's just not built for the starting PG spot. I really hope they keep Hill around, because you know if he sees quality (starting) minutes with another team he's gonna blow up.

[duncan228]

Harvey's view.

Buck Harvey: Parker secure — for now (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2010/10/30/buck-harvey-parker-secure-for-now/)

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2010/10/30/buck-harvey-parker-secure-for-now/

[diego]

I'm impressed, to me this says a lot of what kind of person and player tp is. too bad people will still bitch when he plays for his nt

[bigfan]

I think Tony took less money than he might have gotten someplace else because:
-he appreciates being on a quality team that is the best run and coached in the league;
-he's still gonna make a ton of money $50 million isnt chickenfeed;
-no Texas income taxes;
-wife is from SA;
-big new house in SA and moving is a huge pain in the ass for anybody;
-SA likes to keep good players around long term, David, Tim and Manu will retire as Spurs and Tony might want to as well;
- good teammates and not a pressure cooker media town where the press follows your every move and you can kick back with your family.

[duncan228]

With extension, Spurs keep Parker away from free agency (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2010/10/30/with-extension-spurs-keep-parker-away-from-free-agency-2/)
Jeff McDonald

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2010/10/30/with-extension-spurs-keep-parker-away-from-free-agency-2/

[intlspurshk]

Do we know any increment for Parker if he is traded?

I guess, down the road, Parker will be traded and hence he will get increment from the extended contract. Maybe SPURS and Parker both acknowledged the occurence of this scenario and Parker could be in the driver seat to determine which team will be his final destination by accepting the existing contract. Anyway, this should be the last year that the big 3 will play together. If the downward trend continues (which looks like so with the slipping defense), then SPURS should consider to have a more significant restructuring

[analyzed]

This might sound cynical, but TP signiing an extention, makes him better trade value for the Spurs. Now if Chris Paul wants out, and TP was available, guaranteed the Hornets would trade Chris for TP in a second

[Bruno]

Harvey's view.

Buck Harvey: Parker secure — for now (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2010/10/30/buck-harvey-parker-secure-for-now/)

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2010/10/30/buck-harvey-parker-secure-for-now/

:rollin

It didn't lake long to haters to find a new talk. It will en now "with Parker locked on a reasonable contract until 2015, he has a nice trade value".

[AussieFanKurt]

I think Tony took less money than he might have gotten someplace else because:
-he appreciates being on a quality team that is the best run and coached in the league;
-he's still gonna make a ton of money $50 million isnt chickenfeed;
-no Texas income taxes;
-wife is from SA;
-big new house in SA and moving is a huge pain in the ass for anybody;
-SA likes to keep good players around long term, David, Tim and Manu will retire as Spurs and Tony might want to as well;
- good teammates and not a pressure cooker media town where the press follows your every move and you can kick back with your family.

Klaus Kinski makes a good point. I have to agree

[Bruno]

Some TP's quote from today french newspaper:
"With a new CBA coming, I didn't want to take some risks. I wanted to reach an agreement with San Antonio. A new contract that was fine for me and that will allowed us to sign new players in the future."
"I could have tried to get a little more but you had to be realistic. With the new CBA, Salaries won't be as high."
"Off course, it's cute to thing at New York, but when you weight the pro and the cons, San Antonio, it's my home. I'm happy to continue my career with them."


It's nice to see Parker taking the same road as Duncan and not trying to milk Spurs until the last dollar to keep the team competitive. With a good season, Parker could have easily get a $60M extension later this year.
It's also noteworthy that Parker talked about FNT when he signed that new contract. Playing for his NT was surely part of the equation and Parker agreed to take less money provided Spurs didn't bothered him during summers.

[superbigtime]

This is awesome news! What a deal. Thankyou tony, I hope the xenophobe haters start believing. The FO hit a home run.

[superbigtime]

Eva is from corpus christi. Eva is from corpus christi. Eva is from corpus christi.

[silverblackfan]

That is an amazing deal for the Spurs. I had a feeling that Tony was here to stay, but getting it done this early and for that price is surprising. Tony has really stepped up and said the team is the most important during this most lucrative part in his career.

[Pauleta14]

Last night game made me realise that thanks to this early extention gives Pop more "flexibility" in his coaching!

I mean, had Tony not sign his extention yet, he would have to prove every game his value and take care of his stats (that are used to value a player by the media and the "bb world").
Given the respect the spurs have for Tony, had they not made their decision yet, they would have had to let Tony "showcase" himself so that he could eventualy get a contract elsewhere or made him "attractive" for a trade.

My point is that, even if benching Tony in the 4th was the thing to do, it would have been hard for Pop (even him) to "humiliate" his allstar that way, it would have caused a lot of talks in the media, the fans...

[DPG21920]

Well, I think they made an offer that was great for them and TP accepted. There really isn't much risk in that.

They were probably betting, much like they did against Manu, that if they sign him early, they would end up paying less. Except with Manu they waited (as they should have), and they lost the gamble because Manu freaked out.

TP was less risky (health wise) than Manu, so there was a greater chance imo that TP would up his value as the season went on. So the Spurs put out an offer and it was accepted.

[Pauleta14]

Well, I think they made an offer that was great for them and TP accepted. There really isn't much risk in that.

They were probably betting, much like they did against Manu, that if they sign him early, they would end up paying less. Except with Manu they waited (as they should have), and they lost the gamble because Manu freaked out.

TP was less risky (health wise) than Manu, so there was a greater chance imo that TP would up his value as the season went on. So the Spurs put out an offer and it was accepted.

I not sur the Spurs waited that long to offer Manu his extention, or if Manu just didn't accept their first offers...
In a way, Manu was in a much more comfortable situation last year, even if he had to prove he was in a good shape, he knew that big money would be available last summer...

Tony's situation is a bit different...

[duncan228]

Spurs pay dearly for roster continuity (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2010/10/31/spurs-pay-dearly-for-roster-continuity/)
by Jeff McDonald

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2010/10/31/spurs-pay-dearly-for-roster-continuity/

[Whisky Dog]

I give Parker credit, his NT and his conviction to stay here were very important to him and he followed that. I had him pegged for Hollywood before but that was wrong. Since he's still under 30 it was a great deal for the team, but I wonder what will happen with cap flexibility once TD's contract is up. He's still a productive NBA big but no longer dominant, and what they work out with him for another couple of years after next season will be interesting.

[Obstructed_View]

:flag:

[duncan228]

Monday Musings: Spurs commit to core (http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2010/11/01/monday-musings-spurs-commit-to-core/)
Zach Lowe
The Point Forward
SI.com

The Spurs answered one of the season’s simmering questions (http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2010/10/26/20-burning-questions-hover-over-season/) by signing Tony Parker to a four-year, $50 million contract over the weekend. The deal removes Parker from the 2011 free-agent market and ensures that San Antonio’s core will have two more seasons to chase a title, assuming Tim Duncan does not choose to terminate the final year of his contract and become a free agent after this season.

In this sense, the Spurs have made the clichéd comparisons with the Celtics even easier: Both are built for title contention over the next two seasons, with the future after that uncertain.

The Spurs, though, have given themselves a much higher degree of post-2012 certainty than the Celtics. And that certainty, for now, is built around Parker, Richard Jefferson and the team’s young contributors: George Hill, DeJuan Blair, Tiago Splitter and James Anderson. The Spurs have made the playoffs every season since drafting Duncan, and this core is probably good enough to continue that streak through at least the 2012-13 season.

But is it good enough to keep the NBA’s model franchise in title contention once Duncan is gone? After all, that’s the goal in San Antonio, right? After four championships, there can’t be much interest in winning 48 games and jostling for the No. 7 seed every season.

Let’s start with Parker, who, as Tim Varner at 48 Minutes of Hell (http://www.48minutesofhell.com/) noted, is actually taking a pay cut from his $13.5 million salary this season in this new deal; Parker will earn, on average, $12.5 million per season over the life of his extension.

Where does that put Parker in the point guard salary hierarchy?

For now, only five point guards will have a higher average annual salary starting in 2011-12:

1. Deron Williams ($17.1 million)
2. Chris Paul ($17.1 million)
3. Baron Davis ($14.3 million)
4. Chauncey Billups ($14.2 million, though only partially guaranteed)
5. Gilbert Arenas ($20.8 million), who is not really a point guard anymore

But of those players, only Arenas will make more than the $50 million Parker will be paid over the total length of his contract. In other words, the Spurs have made a huge commitment to a speed-based point guard who will be 32 when his new deal expires. The deal also means the Spurs will not have any significant cap space until after the 2012-2013 season, but also that they likely won’t have any lottery picks in that span, either. And lottery picks remain the easiest way to land a young star.

Keep Reading... (http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2010/11/01/monday-musings-spurs-commit-to-core/)

[z0sa]

A great deal, for an all-star caliber player in his prime. I am pleased. Now let's hope Manu stays healthy and we'll have a solid back court for years to come.

[duncan228]

NBA PM: The Truth Behind Extensions (http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=17783)
By: Yannis Koutroupis
Hoopsworld

Better Get Paid Upfront: Imagine the kind of spending you would do if you had a credit card without a limit that you didn't have to payback fully. That's the kind of mentality NBA owners had while giving out several hundred million dollars in contracts and extensions these past few months.

Currently it looks like this summer's free agents, three members of the 2007 draft class (Kevin Durant, Joakim Noah and Al Horford), and San Antonio Spurs point guard Tony Parker made out quite nicely with very lucrative deals.

Their agreements have many speculating that the owners, who were complaining of record-setting losses not too long ago, are planning for little change if any at all in the new Collective Bargaining Areement. However, the opposite may be the case.

Owners have been giving out monster deals to lock up the players they covet knowing that they likely won't have to pay them the full value of the contract.

While looking for a reduction in future player's salaries and how they're computed, owners are also seeking anywhere from a 10-15% rollback of current player costs. So guys like Parker, Noah, Horford and Durant could lose out on good portion of the money that they think is headed their way if the owners get the cuts that they are seeking.

San Antonio Spurs majority owner Peter Holt has always preferred to stay under the luxury tax threshold, even while the team was on a streak of winning championships every other year. That's why it was quite surprising to see the team sign Parker to a four-year $50 million extension this weekend when they already has $21 million committed to Tim Duncan next year and $66 million to Richard Jefferson and Manu Ginobili through 2013. Next year Parker, Ginobili, Duncan and Jefferson will consume most of San Antonio's cap room.

Odds are that San Antonio would have lost Parker to a team in a bigger market like the New York Knicks or New Jersey Nets had they let him become an unrestricted free agent. They could have driven up the price to something that the Spurs would have had a lot of difficulty matching.

Rather than risking losing someone who is ready to take Duncan's place as the face of the franchise when he retires, the Spurs gave Parker an offer he couldn't refuse. The Spurs likely aren't in love with the implications the extension has on their current salary projections, but once a new CBA goes into effect they could be much more pleased with where they stand.

If the current CBA had a few more years left on it, the Spurs would likely be going into next season with George Hill as their starting point guard and Parker playing elsewhere.

From afar it may look like the owners aren't expecting much of a change, but the reality is they all seem to be counting on it. Otherwise they wouldn't be spending with such little concern about the future.

[Obstructed_View]

Maybe I'm not understanding this right, but I don't see any way they're going to be able to get away with not paying a guy the amount in his contract. You can't retroactively give a guy a pay cut.

[will_spurs]

Maybe I'm not understanding this right, but I don't see any way they're going to be able to get away with not paying a guy the amount in his contract. You can't retroactively give a guy a pay cut.

One word: Hoopsworld.

[Cane]

During the Miami @ New Jersey game, Mike Fratello and Marv Albert were talking about the Tony Parker extension. The Czar was saying that he was surprised that Parker got it due to the up and coming nature of George Hill while Marv Albert said he knew this was happening all along from talking to Coach Pop throughout the year. Thought that was kind of interesting.

Parker should have a field day tonight against Baron Davis and the Clippers "defense". :flag:

[Mark in Austin]

After Mike Conley's extension, this deal looks even better. Then again, RC isn't trying to take the "worst GM in the NBA" title back from Kahn...

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Big 3 get to play together until Timmy calls it quits. Gotta love that.

Glad Tony is sticking around. :D

[Spurs Brazil]

Ken Rodriguez : Sweet Deal For Parker


Tony Parker did not go through adolescence as a Spur. It just seemed that way. As a rookie, Parker looked young enough to pass for an 11th grader. Now he might stick around San Antonio long enough to get his first (premature) gray hair.

The Spurs recently extended Parker’s contract, and when it expires, he’ll have worn Silver and Black as long as David Robinson -- 14 seasons.

“I always said I wanted to stay in San Antonio,” Parker told reporters last week. “It’s my home.”

keep reading - http://www.nba.com/spurs/features/101103_rodriguez.html

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I'm glad for Parker, and the Spurs. I think this was a mutually beneficial move. :tu

[ace3g]

JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Tony Parker's extension not fully guaranteed in 2014-15, and other contract details at Courtside: http://bit.ly/9h93YK #spurs

[DPG21920]

Wow, that is nuts.

[DesignatedT]

such a fantastic deal by the spurs, how do they continue to do these things..

Only 3.5 mil is guaranteed also and no trade kicker.


Only $3.5 million is fully guaranteed in the final season, 2014-15



Finally, the deal includes no trade kicker

[Pauleta14]

Those "details" and the fact that Tony signed so quicly are starting to worrying me...

The Spurs FO is great, that's a fact, but why such a non garanteed last year? Tony would be only 32 'how old would be Manu at the end of his deal?) weird...

Either Tony (or his agent) is stupid, either, he knows his body didn't fullly recover or won't "last long"...

Maybe Tony doesn't care about the money, he already has too much ...

[Bruno]

What I heard is that Spurs initial offer was $39M/3 years which was the same extension Manu got.

Edit: Props to McDonald for getting the contract details. :tu

[Brazil]

Wtf? The last year is not fully guaranteed???

[ShoogarBear]

Wtf? The last year is not fully guaranteed???

So, now we finally know when he'll be traded to the Knicks.

[benefactor]

Parker did this on purpose so he can demand a trade if this season does not go well.

[Pauleta14]

What I heard is that Spurs initial offer was $39M/3 years which was the same extension Manu got.

Edit: Props to McDonald for getting the contract details. :tu


Hi Bruno!
Can you explain me how you understand these details, for instance, what is the purpose of a trade kicker...

thks!

[admiralsnackbar]

I don't know how Bruno knows so much about NBA contract law, but trade kickers are a way players protect themselves from being traded -- essentially, they add a substantial dollar amount to a player's contract should they be traded, which reduces their value and threatens the cap-space of the destination team.

[TJastal]

I don't know how Bruno knows so much about NBA contract law, but trade kickers are a way players protect themselves from being traded -- essentially, they add a substantial dollar amount to a player's contract should they be traded, which reduces their value and threatens the cap-space of the destination team.

And yet, he thinks Scola is a bench scrub, go figure.

:lmao

[Pauleta14]

I don't know how Bruno knows so much about NBA contract law, but trade kickers are a way players protect themselves from being traded -- essentially, they add a substantial dollar amount to a player's contract should they be traded, which reduces their value and threatens the cap-space of the destination team.

So Tony can be trade more easily than Manu...!?

These deals are strange and can lead to so many interpretations... it's crazy!

So I guess it the new extention doesn't mean there won't be anymore "Trade Parker" threads for 3 more years... :lol

[Pauleta14]

And yet, he thinks Scola is a bench scrub, go figure.

:lmao

Who? Bruno thinks that???!!

[admiralsnackbar]

So Tony can be trade more easily than Manu...!?


Yes, but he might also be less likely than Manu to be traded since his (Parker's) contract is very reasonable with respect to his production and he is still in his prime.

Manu, on the other hand, is a fair amount older, and there may still be questions about his durability. Were he to break down or decline substantially over the course of his contract, he could begin to appeal to the Spurs FO as "trade bait," in the last year of his contract.

In other words, the Spurs could try to trade Manu for a player who makes roughly the same amount of money but has a longer contract, while the team Manu was traded to would get an expiring contract to help them reduce their overall payroll obligations the following season.

Ergo: to discourage the Spurs from making such a move, Manu's agent added a trade kicker to his contract.

[Pauleta14]

Thanks!

But don't you think that the fact Tony's contract isn't too expensive make him attractive to other team who need an "affordable" elite PG?
(in the case the spurs would try/need to trade him)

[admiralsnackbar]

Thanks!

But don't you think that the fact Tony's contract isn't too expensive make him attractive to other team who need an "affordable" elite PG?
(in the case the spurs would try/need to trade him)

It's certain that Tony would be attractive to a lot of teams at his price, but because his contract is so reasonable, it would be very difficult for the Spurs to get a similarly-paid player who produced as well as he does unless they got a over-paid mediocre player bundled with a talented rookie or sophomore. That said, most teams are suspicious of trading away talented rookies because they have some of the most reasonable contracts of all.

[Bruno]

To add at what has been said, a trade kicker is an amount of money that a player receive if he is traded.
For example, if a player with a 10% trade kicker is traded and if there is $30M left on his contract when the trade happens, his new team hast to give him $3M within two weeks after the trade.

Some players takes a pay cut to be with a certain team and have a trade kicker that would offset this pay cut if they are traded. For example, Wade, James, Bosh, Miller and Haslem all took pay cuts and they all have a 15% trade kicker.
Some players also want a trade kicker to dissuade their team to trade them. For example, Dice has a 10% trade kicker which makes him hard to trade for Spurs.
Manu's trade kicker is small (only 5%). It wouldn't really hurt a trade. IMO, it's more "If I'm traded, I want some cash to pay for the move."

Parker's contract hasn't a trade kicker like most of the NBA contracts. There are two scenarios possible.
Scenario 1: Parker has asked for a trade kicker and Spurs told him no. Spurs considered that trading him in the future is a possibility.
Scenario 2: Parker hasn't asked for a trade kicker. If Spurs fail to reload on the fly and go through a whole rebuilding process, Parker knows that the best for both side would be a trade. He didn't want a trade kicker in his contract that made a trade harder to do.
I think the right scenario is the second one.

[admiralsnackbar]

Scenario 1: Parker has asked for a trade kicker and Spurs told him no. Spurs considered that trading him in the future is a possibility.
Scenario 2: Parker hasn't asked for a trade kicker. If Spurs fail to reload on the fly and go through a whole rebuilding process, Parker knows that the best for both side would be a trade. He didn't want a trade kicker in his contract that made a trade harder to do.
I think the right scenario is the second one.

Hadn't thought of it that way, but your second scenario does make a lot of sense and would be a win-win. Well played, sir.

[Brazil]

Bottom line, Mike Conley contract is almost as goods as TP one which is totally crazy !

[mountainballer]

Scenario 2: Parker hasn't asked for a trade kicker. If Spurs fail to reload on the fly and go through a whole rebuilding process, Parker knows that the best for both side would be a trade. He didn't want a trade kicker in his contract that made a trade harder to do.
I think the right scenario is the second one.

agree.
another indicator might be, that the contract isn't ascending. (could as well have been 10.8/11.9/13.1/14.2)
if Tim retires 2012 and Tony would like to get one more chance with another team, it should be pretty intriguing for some teams to trade for him at that point. he will be 30 then, with 28 M guaranteed money, or 3 years on 37 M. some contenders will inquire at that point.
(watch out for the Lakers. they will have the only 30% guaranteed contract of Odom to offer. and Fisher will be 38 and likely retire. Tony to LA in 2012 makes a lot of sense and could easily be elaborated.)

[admiralsnackbar]

agree.
another indicator might be, that the contract isn't ascending. (could as well have been 10.8/11.9/13.1/14.2)
if Tim retires 2012 and Tony would like to get one more chance with another team, it should be pretty intriguing for some teams to trade for him at that point. he will be 30 then, with 28 M guaranteed money, or 3 years on 37 M. some contenders will inquire at that point.
(watch out for the Lakers. they will have the only 30% guaranteed contract of Odom to offer. and Fisher will be 38 and likely retire. Tony to LA in 2012 makes a lot of sense and could easily be elaborated.)

Let's please not elaborate on that scenario, logical though it may be :lol

[lefty]

Bottom line, Mike Conley contract is almost as goods as TP one which is totally crazy !
I agree

They really insulted Conley on that one


:stirpot:

[duncan228]

Sweet Deal For Parker (http://www.nba.com/spurs/features/101103_rodriguez.html)
Ken Rodriguez

Tony Parker did not go through adolescence as a Spur. It just seemed that way. As a rookie, Parker looked young enough to pass for an 11th grader. Now he might stick around San Antonio long enough to get his first (premature) gray hair.

The Spurs recently extended Parker’s contract, and when it expires, he’ll have worn Silver and Black as long as David Robinson -- 14 seasons.

“I always said I wanted to stay in San Antonio,” Parker told reporters last week. “It’s my home.”

Home is a good word. Parker works here, lives here, shoots H-E-B commercials here (http://www.nba.com/spurs/multimedia/101004_heb_shoot.html). It’s hard to imagine him anywhere else. And the extension locks in the team’s core. With Parker, Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili healthy and playing well, the possibility of another title run looms.

“Hopefully, we can have a great season,” Parker said, “and win a lot of games and go far in the playoffs.”

Keep Reading... (http://www.nba.com/spurs/features/101103_rodriguez.html)

[Pauleta14]

Bottom line, Mike Conley contract is almost as goods as TP one which is totally crazy !


If you add the Gay contratct, this FO is really out of its mind... :lol

[Pauleta14]

agree.
another indicator might be, that the contract isn't ascending. (could as well have been 10.8/11.9/13.1/14.2)
if Tim retires 2012 and Tony would like to get one more chance with another team, it should be pretty intriguing for some teams to trade for him at that point. he will be 30 then, with 28 M guaranteed money, or 3 years on 37 M. some contenders will inquire at that point.
(watch out for the Lakers. they will have the only 30% guaranteed contract of Odom to offer. and Fisher will be 38 and likely retire. Tony to LA in 2012 makes a lot of sense and could easily be elaborated.)

:lmao

That's great!

It gives us a future thread opportunity...

[Spurs Brazil]

agree.
another indicator might be, that the contract isn't ascending. (could as well have been 10.8/11.9/13.1/14.2)

For one thing, the deal calls for a non-escalating salary. Parker is to get $12.5 million for the 2011-12 season, and in each of the three succeeding seasons.
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2010/11/04/tony-parker-contract-details-here/

[vander]

'Til the Wheels fall off....

they should have let the wheels fall off, and put on new ones, that work, instead they just keep duct taping the old ones some more.

this team is now officially ALL BAD CONTRACTS except for guys still on their rookie deals

the minuscule shred of hope I had to see this team rebuild and contend some time in the next 5-7 years is now gone.

[Brazil]

they should have let the wheels fall off, and put on new ones, that work, instead they just keep duct taping the old ones some more.

this team is now officially ALL BAD CONTRACTS except for guys still on their rookie deals

the minuscule shred of hope I had to see this team rebuild and contend some time in the next 5-7 years is now gone.

:lol TP is a bad contract ?

[DrSteffo]

they should have let the wheels fall off, and put on new ones, that work, instead they just keep duct taping the old ones some more.

this team is now officially ALL BAD CONTRACTS except for guys still on their rookie deals

the minuscule shred of hope I had to see this team rebuild and contend some time in the next 5-7 years is now gone.

LOL so stupid :lmao

[spursfan09]

They are great contracts considering to who those contracts belong to...

[Blackjack]

Scenario 2: Parker hasn't asked for a trade kicker. If Spurs fail to reload on the fly and go through a whole rebuilding process, Parker knows that the best for both side would be a trade. He didn't want a trade kicker in his contract that made a trade harder to do.
I think the right scenario is the second one.

Exactly what came to mind when seeing no trade kicker. :tu


agree.
another indicator might be, that the contract isn't ascending. (could as well have been 10.8/11.9/13.1/14.2)
if Tim retires 2012 and Tony would like to get one more chance with another team, it should be pretty intriguing for some teams to trade for him at that point. he will be 30 then, with 28 M guaranteed money, or 3 years on 37 M. some contenders will inquire at that point.
(watch out for the Lakers. they will have the only 30% guaranteed contract of Odom to offer. and Fisher will be 38 and likely retire. Tony to LA in 2012 makes a lot of sense and could easily be elaborated.)

Laker speculation aside (mountainballer the :stirpot:), I agree. Very reasonable contract with consideration to both the individual player and team -- Spurs locked up a premier player while leaving enough wiggle room that said player doesn't have to wind up being trapped on a bad team or immovable with regards to improving their team.

:tu