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ace3g
10-30-2010, 11:10 AM
spurs San Antonio Spurs
Tony Parker has signed a multi-year contract extension.

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 11:11 AM
Uhhhhhhhhh, what?

rodrick
10-30-2010, 11:12 AM
I just saw this on Twitter. I think this is great news!!!

ace3g
10-30-2010, 11:12 AM
sorry it was from the official Spurs twitter account, link coming soon

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 11:12 AM
http://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN

DrSteffo
10-30-2010, 11:13 AM
???? wow

MaNu4Tres
10-30-2010, 11:13 AM
But but RJ's new deal meant no Parker!

panic giraffe
10-30-2010, 11:14 AM
yea just saw that on twitter.

well there goes rebuilding after timmy leaves.

and also there goes forcing him to preform well in a contract year.

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 11:14 AM
Wow, that was a lot faster than anyone expected. I mean, I fully expected it to happen, but amazing that it is already done.

Great, great news.

Kuestmaster
10-30-2010, 11:16 AM
Great news, but I hope this doesn't mean to lose George Hill in the future.
Hope Tony will be thankful enough to have an outstanding year

ace3g
10-30-2010, 11:16 AM
JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Parker: "Im very happy to be a Spur. I always said I wanted to stay in San Antonio." #spurs

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 11:17 AM
...

Leetonidas
10-30-2010, 11:17 AM
I really hope it's not for the max. But I suppose that's good news, even though I was kinda in favor of trading him for the right piece. :lol Oh well, I like TP, so I hope he doesn't take it easy now that he's got his contract.

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 11:17 AM
JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
Parker: "Im very happy to be a Spur. I always said I wanted to stay in San Antonio." #spurs

Parker lol'ing at Spurs fans.

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 11:18 AM
All I really care about is that I get to see one of the most memorable big 3's finish their careers together. Regardless of what happens, it would not have felt right to me if they were split up.

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 11:19 AM
But without RJ's pay cut it would have meant no Tiago!

eric365
10-30-2010, 11:22 AM
http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/parker_resigns_041102.html

The San Antonio Spurs today announced that the team has signed guard Tony Parker to a multi-year contract extension. Per team policy the terms of the deal were not disclosed.

Parker, the Spurs’ first round draft pick in 2001 (28th overall), has appeared in 234 regular season games averaging 13.1 points, 5.0 assists and 2.8 rebounds in 32.6 minutes per contest. Parker has led the Spurs in assists in each of his first three seasons. He also led the team in steals as a rookie in 2001. Parker, 22, has started 229 of the 234 games that he has appeared in.

The 6-2 guard has also appeared in 44 playoff games for the Spurs averaging 15.7 points, 4.4 assists and 2.6 rebounds in 35.0 minutes per game. Parker is among the Spurs all-time playoff leaders ranking sixth in assists (195), eighth in steals (44) and fifth in 3PT-FG made (42). He started all 82 regular season contests and all 24 playoff games in helping lead the Spurs to the NBA Championship in 2003.

Parker became the youngest player to ever appear in a Spurs uniform on 10/30/01 making his debut at 19 years, 166 days. Later that season he became the first foreign-born guard ever to be named to the NBA All-Rookie First Team.

Before joining the Spurs Parker spent two seasons with Paris Basket Racing in the French A League. He averaged 14.7 points, 5.6 assists, 2.7 rebounds and 2.03 steals in 2000-01 on his way to being named to the 2001 French All-Star team.

It's a 2004 article...

Kent_in_Atlanta
10-30-2010, 11:23 AM
I saw that a few minutes ago on Twitter. GREAT news! I wasn't sure he was coming back. Parker's got a few more years left in his prime, and the Spurs will likely get all of those years. Excellent!

Bruno
10-30-2010, 11:24 AM
It's $50M/4 years.
http://fr.tp9.net/%C2%AB-un-spurs-jusqu%E2%80%99en-2015-%C2%BB-869

eric365
10-30-2010, 11:24 AM
I'm really surprised. I thought he would wait to see if the spurs can contend or not before closing the oppurtunities.

I think it means one of the 2 following things :
- He is really afraid of the new CBA
- He is really confidend in the team

I hope it's the second one

Dex
10-30-2010, 11:24 AM
:tu Not surprised at all by this.

B-B-But SpursTalk said....!

MannyIsGod
10-30-2010, 11:25 AM
Nice! Parker has evolved into my favorite Spur over the past several seasons and I'm very happy to see this. To be honest, I fully expected Tony to try to move to another contender if Tim and Manu were going to retire together. We'll see how long the extension is for and for how much but I'm happy to see Tony wanted to stay here.

Cane
10-30-2010, 11:25 AM
'Til the Wheels fall off....

Dex
10-30-2010, 11:26 AM
At least now we won't have to deal with those stupid contract questions during every Pre- and Post-game interview with Parker.

MannyIsGod
10-30-2010, 11:26 AM
And yeah, I think this definitely signals he's afraid of the new CBA.
4 years 50? How the fuck do the Spurs get such bargains. Jesus.

biziofromdowntown
10-30-2010, 11:26 AM
So...that's a great news! Maybe it means that Timmy doesn't want to play after his actual contract

MannyIsGod
10-30-2010, 11:26 AM
4 years 50m is so favorable for the Spurs its ridiculous.

eric365
10-30-2010, 11:26 AM
It's $50M/4 years.
http://fr.tp9.net/%C2%AB-un-spurs-jusqu%E2%80%99en-2015-%C2%BB-869

wow $12,5M a year
He is underpaid. Less than Manu and almost what RJ is making...
He could have had so much more as a FA

The_Worlds_finest
10-30-2010, 11:27 AM
I know some of you dumbasses think its a bad move. Thats why you post in messages boards and not ink deals in the FO :toast

EricB
10-30-2010, 11:29 AM
4 years 50 million for an all star point guard? :lol suck it Parker haters...

Dex
10-30-2010, 11:30 AM
wow $12,5M a year
He is underpaid. Less than Manu and almost what RJ is making...
He could have had so much more as a FA

Maybe now people will finally believe Parker when he said he really wanted to stay in San Antonio.

Cane
10-30-2010, 11:30 AM
I'm gonna stir the pot for the hell of it:

Don't players have to sign extensions before being traded if they're in the final year...to be worth it anyway? Like the Carmelo Anthony situation - no one wants to gamble on a guy that hasn't signed an extension and is in his last contract year.

If that $50 million number is right, Tony might be an even more attractive trade asset if the Spurs find a deal they can't pass up :stirpot:

Man In Black
10-30-2010, 11:30 AM
San Antonio Discount at $12.5 Mill per season average? Yeah...It's good to know the Spurs are playing for keeps and they save us from the 4-letter and Eastern Seaboard blowhards from making shit up when it comes to TP. No more articles about Hill making Tony expendable, no more articles about how NY loves Tony, and no more articles about making something out of nothing. In short, they'll just get back to their old shtick about this team being old, slow, and unappealing. Hey media...OPEN YOUR GOT DAMN EYES! :wow

EricB
10-30-2010, 11:31 AM
Maybe now people will finally believe Parker when he said he really wanted to stay in San Antonio.


But but but his supposedly evil wife said she wanted to live in new York!!!!!

JR3
10-30-2010, 11:31 AM
What a deal!

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 11:33 AM
Sorry about posting the old article, it popped up with the recent tweets....

As far as the contract goes, that is unbelievable. His contract is exceptional. I am extremely interested to see how they arrived at that number.

This is far lower and far earlier than anyone expected. :wow

This is huge for the Spurs now and in the future.

eric365
10-30-2010, 11:33 AM
Maybe now people will finally believe Parker when he said he really wanted to stay in San Antonio.

The haters will say it's only because he was afraid of the new CBA.
They will always find a reason to hate

MannyIsGod
10-30-2010, 11:34 AM
I'm gonna stir the pot for the hell of it:

Don't players have to sign extensions before being traded if they're in the final year...to be worth it anyway? Like the Carmelo Anthony situation - no one wants to gamble on a guy that hasn't signed an extension and is in his last contract year.

If that $50 million number is right, Tony might be an even more attractive trade asset if the Spurs find a deal they can't pass up :stirpot:

This is the weakest pot stirring ever. If that was the case there would be a trade done and they would have announced the trade.

ohmwrecker
10-30-2010, 11:34 AM
HA!

The sooner everyone realizes that I am always right, the better off we will all be. I'm not gloating, I just care about you.

Seriously, great news. I will have to make a Bienvenue à la maison, Tony! sign for tonight's game.

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 11:34 AM
I need to look at this more in depth though. I mean this is quite the surprise (not that he resigned, but for how much/how fast).

Just seems hard to believe.

ChuckD
10-30-2010, 11:35 AM
James Dolan, Donnie Walsh, Amare Stoudemire, and Knicks nation are now quitely slitting their wrists.

:lol

My thought all along was that he would extend, but I expected it to be late in the process, like Manu. Like him or not, he is the one piece on our club that the Lakers have no defensive answer for.

Kuestmaster
10-30-2010, 11:35 AM
50 million for 4 years it's amazing, with tony, hill, blair, splitter, anderson and whoever we will draft or trade for I think we'll have a good team when timmy's and manu's wheels fall off.

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 11:37 AM
If Tiago comes out of the gates ballin', I am going to have myself one hell of a season.

MannyIsGod
10-30-2010, 11:37 AM
James Dolan, Donnie Walsh, Amare Stoudemire, and Knicks nation are now quitely slitting their wrists.

:lol

My thought all along was that he would extend, but I expected it to be late in the process, like Manu. Like him or not, he is the one piece on our club that the Lakers have no defensive answer for.

What? The Lakers just pack the lane and force our shitty shooters to beat them. One on One they can't contain him but Phillis always makes our shooters beat them - not Parker.

Das Texan
10-30-2010, 11:37 AM
Fuck yes!


Good for Tony. Good for the Spurs.


Now lets try to go find a way to win #5.

Cane
10-30-2010, 11:37 AM
This is the weakest pot stirring ever. If that was the case there would be a trade done and they would have announced the trade.

More pot stirring:

Who knows what kind of deals can come up before the trade deadline and the Spurs probably would rather wait until then before making a move unless the trade was somehow a no-brainer. With a good contract and Parker being healthy, he can be an attractive asset if it ever comes down to it unlike RJ.

MannyIsGod
10-30-2010, 11:37 AM
If Tiago comes out of the gates ballin', I am going to have myself one hell of a season.

:tu

ChuckD
10-30-2010, 11:39 AM
San Antonio Discount at $12.5 Mill per season average? Yeah...It's good to know the Spurs are playing for keeps and they save us from the 4-letter and Eastern Seaboard blowhards from making shit up when it comes to TP. No more articles about Hill making Tony expendable, no more articles about how NY loves Tony, and no more articles about making something out of nothing. In short, they'll just get back to their old shtick about this team being old, slow, and unappealing. Hey media...OPEN YOUR GOT DAMN EYES! :wow

If the Spurs and Tony were wanting to part ways, they can do an extension as part of the trade. That's the player's leverage. If he signs it early, and at a bargain, the team has no incentive to move him. Why would they move a multiple All Star and Finals MVP making a team friendly salary?

DrSteffo
10-30-2010, 11:40 AM
Good news! Half expected and the right thing to do.

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 11:40 AM
Even as great as this is, this likely cements the Spurs as tax payers next season (if there is no fundamental change in the CBA).

I wonder if an ETO is headed Tim's way, followed by an extension...

edgar
10-30-2010, 11:40 AM
Parker always can pull a Stephen Jackson on us and demand his way out.

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 11:42 AM
I honestly don't know how the Spurs do this stuff. Manu's contract, even though at the time was a healthy amount, looks like a bargain compared to what most guys received.

TP's contract looks equally ridiculous.

ChumpDumper
10-30-2010, 11:42 AM
Parker always can pull a Stephen Jackson on us and demand his way out.He could have done that already.

ChuckD
10-30-2010, 11:44 AM
He could have done that already.

Exactly. Melo is having no problems on that front right now.

Cane
10-30-2010, 11:45 AM
Pot stirring aside, love this deal for Parker and the Spurs! Til' the wheels fall off!

BillMc
10-30-2010, 11:45 AM
It always amazes me how the Spurs handle these things so well. We never have the problems other teams have.

Good for Tony! Now, let's go win some games.

ThaBigFundamental21
10-30-2010, 11:47 AM
I'm not buying this. No news anywhere.

ChuckD
10-30-2010, 11:48 AM
What? The Lakers just pack the lane and force our shitty shooters to beat them. One on One they can't contain him but Phillis always makes our shooters beat them - not Parker.


High center P'n'R with Parker. Oh, and our shooters this year are NOT RMJ, Bogans and Finley.

Oh, and as OKC showed last year, you can RUN on those fuckers.

Bruno
10-30-2010, 11:48 AM
Quick translation of TP interview:

Is Tony, what is your feeling after the signing of this new contract?
It's a huge satisfaction. It especially show how Spurs trust me to offer me that contract. I thank Peter Holt, Gregg Popovich and RC Bufford. All went very fast since the negotiations began two weeks ago. I've quickly understood that it was just a matter of time before reaching an agreement. Spurs' talk was clear. They wanted to keep me and build the team around me. I like this club, I like this city. I'm here at home. It was impossible for me to turn down this offer. I'm sure that there are still beautiful things to do in San Antonio in the following years.

There were many rumors for months about a possible departure…
It's always the same thing during contract years. Every day, you are linked with a new team. I repeated that my wish was to stay in San Antonio but nobody wanted to believe me. However, I knew exactly what happened. I knew Spurs' point of view on me. After some time, you don't even notice what people are saying. You let them talk. At the end, I'm on the way to wear Spurs' jersey until 2015. 14 years with the same team, I'm proud of that.

Is it a relief?
it changes a lot of things for this year because I will be able to play without that in mind. I won't have to worry about the future. If I hadn't re-sign with Spurs, I could have ended without a team next summer with the risk of a lock out. I will fully be focused on FNT and the 2011 Euro. I plan to play for FNT for a lot years. However, this new contract won't change my motivation. I want to explode everything.

WildcardManu
10-30-2010, 11:49 AM
It always amazes me how the Spurs handle these things so well. We never have the problems other teams have.

Good for Tony! Now, let's go win some games.

Maybe they do business like the Sopranos or the Godfather, made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 11:49 AM
Quick translation of TP interview:

Is Tony, what is your feeling after the signing of this new contract?
It's a huge satisfaction. It especially show how Spurs trust me to offer me that contract. I thank Peter Holt, Gregg Popovich and RC Bufford. All went very fast since the negotiations began two weeks ago. I've quickly understood that it was just a matter of time before reaching an agreement. Spurs' talk was clear. They wanted to keep me and build the team around me. I like this club, I like this city. I'm here at home. It was impossible for me to turn down this offer. I'm sure that there are still beautiful things to do in San Antonio in the following years.

There were many rumors for months about a possible departure…
It's always the same thing during contract years. Every day, you are linked with a new team. I repeated that my wish was to stay in San Antonio but nobody wanted to believe me. However, I knew exactly what happened. I knew Spurs' point of view on me. After some time, you don't even notice what people are saying. You let them talk. At the end, I'm on the way to wear Spurs' jersey until 2015. 14 years with the same team, I'm proud of that.

Is it a relief?
it changes a lot of things for this year because I will be able to play without that in mind. I won't have to worry about the future. If I hadn't re-sign with Spurs, I could have ended without a team next summer with the risk of a lock out. I will fully be focused on FNT and the 2011 Euro. I plan to play for FNT for a lot years. However, this new contract won't change my motivation. I want to explode everything.

Glad to see we helped. I feel like Cobbler.

edgar
10-30-2010, 11:50 AM
Surely the figures were based off on Tony's unlikeness to miss from national competition. He could have received more if he had it in writing that he would no longer play in the summer.

urunobili
10-30-2010, 11:55 AM
FUCK YEAH!!!
http://thesandefoundation.org/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Champagne-Bottle-714293.166160933_std.jpg

JR3
10-30-2010, 11:57 AM
I love how all of our stars are career spurs! Makes it easier to retire jerseys and collect basketball cards. =)

DAF86
10-30-2010, 11:59 AM
Not surprised with the extension, very surprised with the contract.

team-work
10-30-2010, 11:59 AM
Biggest uncertainty of the season cleared. Whether the signing was driven by fear of the potential lockout or Tony's faith on the team, it will do good to the team's morale.

kace
10-30-2010, 11:59 AM
good deal.

this "low" price could be explained by three things: his real commitment with SA / the new CBA / his will to keep playing with his NT.

anyway, good for the spurs who won't be embarassed with a huge contract to keep building a team with Tony.

Good for Tony who can see a competitive team around him and even be an interessing trade if his future is not in SA. A few millions more wouldn't have changed his life anyway. It's great that Tony has accepted this contract.


:toast to this deal

ace3g
10-30-2010, 12:00 PM
Check out Tony Parker and Coach Pop's reactions to the extension: http://bit.ly/bWAa3T

Bruno
10-30-2010, 12:02 PM
I'm not surprised by the extension. Unlike some people here thought, it was the best choice for both Spurs and Parker.

What surprised me more is "only" $50M. I thought it woudl have been at least $60M. It's a good news Spurs are able to keep Parker on a relatively cheap contract after all the money spend on RJ+Bonner ($50M for both).

timvp
10-30-2010, 12:06 PM
Wow. Great news. That's a hell of a deal for the Spurs.

Quiet Strength
10-30-2010, 12:06 PM
That's great news!

CFH
10-30-2010, 12:07 PM
Awesome news to wake up to! :toast

TMTTRIO
10-30-2010, 12:07 PM
Good deal. Glad to have our Big 3 continue to play here.

gospursgojas
10-30-2010, 12:08 PM
FUCK YES.

So proud of the Spurs FO again. What a bargain. TBH I totally thought TP was for sure out

anakha
10-30-2010, 12:08 PM
Damn, that is a lot lower than people were expecting.

Cane
10-30-2010, 12:10 PM
Damn, that is a lot lower than people were expecting.

True that. This deal is pretty impressive. Gotta love the Spurs FO and Parker :flag:

Kori Ellis
10-30-2010, 12:10 PM
Quick translation of TP interview:

Is Tony, what is your feeling after the signing of this new contract?
It's a huge satisfaction. It especially show how Spurs trust me to offer me that contract. I thank Peter Holt, Gregg Popovich and RC Bufford. All went very fast since the negotiations began two weeks ago. I've quickly understood that it was just a matter of time before reaching an agreement. Spurs' talk was clear. They wanted to keep me and build the team around me. I like this club, I like this city. I'm here at home. It was impossible for me to turn down this offer. I'm sure that there are still beautiful things to do in San Antonio in the following years.

There were many rumors for months about a possible departure…
It's always the same thing during contract years. Every day, you are linked with a new team. I repeated that my wish was to stay in San Antonio but nobody wanted to believe me. However, I knew exactly what happened. I knew Spurs' point of view on me. After some time, you don't even notice what people are saying. You let them talk. At the end, I'm on the way to wear Spurs' jersey until 2015. 14 years with the same team, I'm proud of that.

Is it a relief?
it changes a lot of things for this year because I will be able to play without that in mind. I won't have to worry about the future. If I hadn't re-sign with Spurs, I could have ended without a team next summer with the risk of a lock out. I will fully be focused on FNT and the 2011 Euro. I plan to play for FNT for a lot years. However, this new contract won't change my motivation. I want to explode everything.

Thanks for the translation.

I like this line: "At the end, I'm on the way to wear Spurs' jersey until 2015. 14 years with the same team, I'm proud of that."

MannyIsGod
10-30-2010, 12:14 PM
More pot stirring:

Who knows what kind of deals can come up before the trade deadline and the Spurs probably would rather wait until then before making a move unless the trade was somehow a no-brainer. With a good contract and Parker being healthy, he can be an attractive asset if it ever comes down to it unlike RJ.

Your pot stirring is beyond weak. The Spurs are very unlikely to get a talent as good as parker at this low a rate but yes, Parker is tradeable as is everyone else on the team.

MannyIsGod
10-30-2010, 12:16 PM
I honestly don't know how the Spurs do this stuff. Manu's contract, even though at the time was a healthy amount, looks like a bargain compared to what most guys received.

TP's contract looks equally ridiculous.

:lmao 10 years from now it will come out the Spurs were breaking CBA rules. Its really that fucking nuts how they get players to take lower amounts of money here.

MannyIsGod
10-30-2010, 12:17 PM
High center P'n'R with Parker. Oh, and our shooters this year are NOT RMJ, Bogans and Finley.

Oh, and as OKC showed last year, you can RUN on those fuckers.

HPR is fine but you just bring help from the wings and still force the shooters to beat you. Our shooters this year are still pretty much the same as they have been except for an unproven rookie.

Tony needs help from consistent outside shooting to beat Phillis' strat. I hope he gets it this year.

timvp
10-30-2010, 12:20 PM
4-year, $40 million for RJ.

4-year, $50 million for TP. :lol

I know the pending lockout is a bit scary but TP took a fraction of what he could have made on the open market. Parker should fire his agent.

But I'm not complainin' :smokin

MannyIsGod
10-30-2010, 12:21 PM
Thanks for the translation.

I like this line: "At the end, I'm on the way to wear Spurs' jersey until 2015. 14 years with the same team, I'm proud of that."

It looks like the big three will all be career Spurs. Thats an amazing feat in today's NBA.

MannyIsGod
10-30-2010, 12:21 PM
4-year, $40 million for RJ.

4-year, $50 million for TP. :lol

I know the pending lockout is a bit scary but TP took a fraction of what he could have made on the open market. Parker should fire his agent.

But I'm not complainin' :smokin

Lockout fear. Its pretty nuts.

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 12:22 PM
:lmao 10 years from now it will come out the Spurs were breaking CBA rules. Its really that fucking nuts how they get players to take lower amounts of money here.

Yeah, I really don't get it. I used to think I could work in a front office (obviously after years of learning), but the Spurs FO has some ridiculous talent.


4-year, $40 million for RJ.

4-year, $50 million for TP. :lol

I know the pending lockout is a bit scary but TP took a fraction of what he could have made on the open market. Parker should fire his agent.

But I'm not complainin' :smokin

Makes you wonder...

Spursfanfromafar
10-30-2010, 12:23 PM
first of all, kudos to Bruno who consistently maintained that TP will be resigned.

Second, kudos to TP for agreeing to a contract paying him "only" $50 million for 4 years. He is now paid slightly lesser than Rajon Rondo (not per year, but overall - Rondo is paid $55 in 5 years) and just a little more than Steve Nash per year.

That is a good bargain for someone who carried the team two seasons ago along with Tim Duncan.

Third, it shows that unlike immature but excellent PGs like CP3, TP is a team player who respects the hard working/painstaking culture of a small market team and wants to better it instead of seeking ready made glory and limelight elsewhere.

BillMc
10-30-2010, 12:23 PM
I wonder if keeping Tony and Manu increases the chances Tim will extend his career a few years? I think it does. (Health permitting).

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 12:23 PM
Lockout fear. Its pretty nuts.

But that doesn't make sense to me. All these dudes that signed contracts or extensions this summer had the same fear and most got paid well beyond what they should have.

TP gets way less.

I mean, RJ got more than him.

timvp
10-30-2010, 12:24 PM
It's gonna be tough for the Parker haters to twist this into fitting with his supposed reputation of being greedy and too Hollywood for San Antonio. Then again, it looks like some are already attempting to do so.

Kori Ellis
10-30-2010, 12:24 PM
Tony Parker im happy im staying with the spurs!!! san antonio is HOME!!!!! je suis content de rester a san antonio!! SAN ANTONIO CEST LA MAISON!!!
12 minutes ago

http://www.facebook.com/#!/tp9network

Spurminator
10-30-2010, 12:24 PM
Very exciting news. That's a great deal for a franchise point guard.

Cane
10-30-2010, 12:24 PM
The Spurs are very unlikely to get a talent as good as parker at this low a rate but yes, Parker is tradeable as is everyone else on the team.

Agreed before your comma, not so much after considering RJ's deal and Parker's the youngest star on the team.


4-year, $40 million for RJ.

4-year, $50 million for TP. :lol

I know the pending lockout is a bit scary but TP took a fraction of what he could have made on the open market. Parker should fire his agent.

But I'm not complainin' :smokin


It looks like the big three will all be career Spurs. Thats an amazing feat in today's NBA.

True that, the big 3 and the Spurs organization seem like the best example of how to run things in the modern NBA. :flag:

anakha
10-30-2010, 12:26 PM
It's gonna be tough for the Parker haters to twist this into fitting with his supposed reputation of being greedy and too Hollywood for San Antonio. Then again, it looks like some are already attempting to do so.

The logic gymnastics that will be performed will be glorious.

MaNu4Tres
10-30-2010, 12:27 PM
To DPG:

I never ever ever brought up the notion that Tiago would not have came to San Antonio if it wasn't for RJ's pay cut.

I believed from the get go Tiago would have been here regardless.

Get your facts straight before looking like an idiot confusing me with somebody else.

Spurminator
10-30-2010, 12:28 PM
It's gonna be tough for the Parker haters to twist this into fitting with his supposed reputation of being greedy and too Hollywood for San Antonio. Then again, it looks like some are already attempting to do so.

Yeah we haven't seen the end of the Trade Parker threads but at least no one can argue he should be traded "because he's going to leave anyway."

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 12:30 PM
To DPG:

I never ever ever brought up the notion that Tiago would not have came to San Antonio if it wasn't for RJ's pay cut.

I believed from the get go Tiago would have been here regardless.

Get your facts straight before looking like an idiot confusing me with somebody else.

:cry

You made a lump comment about people who hated RJ's contract. I made a lump comment about the stupid things said by the group who loved it. Get over it girl.

ShoogarBear
10-30-2010, 12:30 PM
Yeah, I hope Tony doesn't pack it in like Manu did.

slick'81
10-30-2010, 12:30 PM
love ya tp9 glad your gonna be a spur for life fucking great news :downspin:

clubalien
10-30-2010, 12:32 PM
looks like now we can trade him since teams won't worry that he will leave after his contract is over

MaNu4Tres
10-30-2010, 12:32 PM
I made a lump comment about the stupid things said by the group who loved it. Get over it girl.

No you actually quoted me and was completely wrong. No one loved RJ's contract. Some of us just admired how the front office resigned the best realistic small forward available. And a few of us were aware that his contract (even being slightly overpaid), didn't necessarily hurt the Spurs chances at resigning Parker or hurt their potential rebuilding process in 3 years.

And I'm not crying nor am I a female.

Nice try though :tu

ohmwrecker
10-30-2010, 12:32 PM
I mean, RJ got more than him.

I'm not good with the maths, but . . . ?

Tp9gospursgo
10-30-2010, 12:34 PM
Sweet!

ohmwrecker
10-30-2010, 12:34 PM
:cry

You made a lump comment about people who hated RJ's contract. I made a lump comment about the stupid things said by the group who loved it. Get over it girl.

Nobody loved RJ's contract. Revisionist history.

Russ
10-30-2010, 12:35 PM
Gee, I thought he was going to the Knicks . . . :lol:lol:lol:lol

Folks, in case you hadn't noticed it, TP is a home body. :)

benefactor
10-30-2010, 12:38 PM
This is unbelievable. The FO signs RJ to a ridiculous extension and then gets Parker to agree to millions less than what he's worth? That's just nuts.

Beyond all that, it's good to see the extension done and the potential distraction that might have come with it out of the way.

duhoh
10-30-2010, 12:38 PM
No you actually quoted me.

And I'm not crying nor am I a female.

Nice try though :tu

that's why you're the one with the medal with far, far, less posts. :king

PM5K
10-30-2010, 12:38 PM
Who is his agent?

Russ
10-30-2010, 12:39 PM
The real back story here is what this says about the Spurs' evaluation of . . . the Spurs.

They think they can contend the next few years.

In other words, the FO is looking at Splitter and Anderson and Neal and Hill and Blair -- and they like what they see. :)

TwelveGs210
10-30-2010, 12:40 PM
Thank You Tony, now hopefully your commitment to the Spurs rubs off on George, and he agrees to an extension when it's his turn. Great news.

xapatan2
10-30-2010, 12:41 PM
Tony Parker is a good, clever and simple guy.
He knows about passion and commitment.
San Antonio is his Home, as the french NT is.
He cares more about thé place and the people to stay with than about money...
He likes competition !
Hé is Spurs material and will stay like that...

First good news of this october month on spurstalk...
Was about Time ...

Xap'

quentin_compson
10-30-2010, 12:41 PM
Awesome news!
:flag:

Cane
10-30-2010, 12:46 PM
Here's Fernando TD21's take on the Spurs Marvel cover, great that these guys are such team players on and off the court:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/Fernando_M/spursheroescopy.jpg


GLORY TIL THE WHEELS FALL OFF! :flag: :lobt2:

DrSteffo
10-30-2010, 12:47 PM
Wow thats a goood deal. LOL at the Parker haters.

elemento
10-30-2010, 12:47 PM
Awesome news !!

Glad that Parker stayed in SA

jiggy_55
10-30-2010, 12:48 PM
Wooooooooooooooo! Parker stays, love it :)

MannyIsGod
10-30-2010, 12:50 PM
It's gonna be tough for the Parker haters to twist this into fitting with his supposed reputation of being greedy and too Hollywood for San Antonio. Then again, it looks like some are already attempting to do so.

Honestly, its always been hard for people to hate on Parker but they've always done it anyway. I mean wtf is there to hate about a guy that plays that well and isn't getting thrown in jail for punching Eva?

jsandiego
10-30-2010, 12:51 PM
Props to Pop, RC, and TP for getting a deal done. We are ALL winners in this. So great to see so many players with our team for so long. This just doesn't happen anymore in modern day professional sports. Most teams are lucky to have ONE long-term star. We've had 4 in the last decade.

Oh, and RJ's contract isn't horrible. We were gonna have to pay him $16mm this year anyway. That basically turns RJ's 4yr/$40mm signing into a 3yr/$24mm extension. That's fair I think.

In Pop we trust... 'Till The Wheels Fall Off!

MannyIsGod
10-30-2010, 12:52 PM
Yeah, I hope Tony doesn't pack it in like Manu did.

:lmao

Dex
10-30-2010, 12:56 PM
Another thing to consider: If Jefferson didn't restructure his contract, would the Spurs still able to do this and keep both?

Between the contracts of Manu, Tiago, and Parker, the Spurs FO has been puttin' in work. If putting up with Jefferson going forward is the necessary burden, then so be it.

Slomo
10-30-2010, 12:56 PM
Yeah, I hope Tony doesn't pack it in like Manu did.

Yep, which would be so typical for these French and Italian guys.

Damn foreigners!

falconqb1234
10-30-2010, 12:59 PM
great news. i thought they were gonna trade him to get something out of him and go with hill. hopefully he'll stop playing with france in the summers now so we can get something out of him

benefactor
10-30-2010, 01:00 PM
But but RJ's new deal meant no Parker!
This is pretty fucking lame. No one could have expected the deal to be this good. Parker is an all-star level player and could have very easily asked for all-star money...and would have been completely justified in doing it.

ohmwrecker
10-30-2010, 01:01 PM
I wonder if they have given up on Sparky Hill being a PG . . .

timtonymanu
10-30-2010, 01:02 PM
4 years 50 million for an all star point guard? :lol suck it Parker haters...

ohmwrecker
10-30-2010, 01:03 PM
There's a lot of backpedaling going on here . . . I'm glad it's not me.

Nathan89
10-30-2010, 01:04 PM
No need to be angry over excessive contracts anymore because everything evened out in the end. The Splitter deal balanced out Bonner's contract and Tony's deal balanced out that terrible contract for rj.

That being said I am still a little pissed about that rj deal.

Budkin
10-30-2010, 01:04 PM
Gotta be because Eva is from San Antonio... awesome news though! Props to Tony! :tu

BacktoBasics
10-30-2010, 01:08 PM
Gotta be because Eva is from San Antonio... awesome news though! Props to Tony! :tuShe's not from San Antonio

eric365
10-30-2010, 01:09 PM
It seems that the FNT was in the talks :
« Je vais pouvoir jouer l'esprit tranquille. [...] Je vais aussi me consacrer entièrement à l'équipe de France et à l'Euro 2011. Je compte bien jouer avec les Bleus pendant de longues années »

=> I will be able to play with free minds. [...] I'm gonna also focus entirely on the FNT and the 2011 Euro. I"m gonna play with the FNT for a lot of years

Feel free to update the translation. I'm not sure I have done a good job :)

http://www.lequipe.fr/Basket/breves2010/20101030_192037_parker-prolonge-aux-spurs.html

manu the best
10-30-2010, 01:12 PM
.. great news!!!!

ogait
10-30-2010, 01:12 PM
Ok great news.

Glad the speculation and story making this season was about to become like Manu last year is now out of the way.

Full focus on winning games now I would hope.

Libri
10-30-2010, 01:12 PM
I think this could convince Tim to resign for another year or two, after his contract expires.

gameFACE
10-30-2010, 01:13 PM
Congrats to Tony!!!! That contract is a steal if it's true. Maybe the lockout and some rebuilding were taken into account.

LMAO at all the TP haters and doubters sounding all small town. Any PG other than Tony at this point would cause such trauma it would waste Duncan's twilight years.

lurker23
10-30-2010, 01:14 PM
Great news! :elephant :tu

Props to the Spurs, and especially to Tony and his agent, for getting this done and not dragging it out.

ohmwrecker
10-30-2010, 01:14 PM
No need to be angry over excessive contracts anymore because everything evened out in the end. The Splitter deal balanced out Bonner's contract and Tony's deal balanced out that terrible contract for rj.

That being said I am still a little pissed about that rj deal.

You are free to do what you want, but it's pointless. All the "RJ haters" have been grasping at straws trying to imagine negative ramifications and panic stricken scenarios where RJ's contract was going to lock the Spurs out of making any other beneficial deals and mire the team in bottom dweller territory for years. Now that this argumentative artifice is crumbling, it's just a good idea to let it go. There is nothing to be gained by arguing this point any further.

spursbird
10-30-2010, 01:15 PM
Parker is the most underestimating guy in the league.

Bukefal
10-30-2010, 01:15 PM
Great news!!!! Made my day :clap :flag::flag::flag::flag:

Lol at those people questioning his loyalty to the Spurs all freakin summer long and thinking he was looking to change San Antonio for NY or LA asap because of his wife or hollywood attractions.

jcrod
10-30-2010, 01:18 PM
Wow awesome news. I can't believe the deal.

fred33
10-30-2010, 01:18 PM
it's not a ridiculous contract for tony
tony will have 29 yezrs in 2011
great youngS pointS guardS in the leagues
possibly a lockout next year
=35% FOR THE NEW PLAYERS CONTRACT
HE PREFERS TO LOSE 5 TO 10 MILLONS$ now befor the news contract bargaining

Hooks
10-30-2010, 01:20 PM
Does this impact our ability to sign someone next season, does it give us more cap space? I don't really know anything about the cap or anything like that....

Barfunk
10-30-2010, 01:22 PM
This is what I'm talking about. :ihit

TDMVPDPOY
10-30-2010, 01:22 PM
Does this impact our ability to sign someone next season, does it give us more cap space? I don't really know anything about the cap or anything like that....

we are basically done...no capspace...

extending tp to play backup pg to ghill...watta waste of money

Chomag
10-30-2010, 01:22 PM
Just more proof that the Spurs FO are the masters at low balling.

8FOR!3
10-30-2010, 01:23 PM
LOL, I was one of those guys hoping we trade Parker, just because I thought we would need a Small Forward and Hill could fill Parker's position just fine, but after hearing 4 years 50 million, I'm almost laughing right now. What a great deal for the Spurs. Awesome day Spurs fans.

Blackjack
10-30-2010, 01:23 PM
Pleasantly surprised Tony believes SA is still the best long-term fit for him.

Impending CBA aside, Tony's a winner. All he's ever done since entering the league is win. For him to forgo free-agency is a testament to his belief in the Spurs ability to sustain success even as Tim and Manu decline or leave the stage.

It's not about the reasonable contract to me, it's the belief Tony's displayed by accepting this contract. Chances are he would have been able to get something in the same ballpark post-CBA. This is bigger than the dollar-value to me; Tony just proved to one-and-all he's the epitome of "Spur". :tu


I wonder if they have given up on Sparky Hill being a PG . . .

Looks to me Indy is the 6th Man successor to Manu, almost Jackson to Parker's Bibby moving forward.

MaNu4Tres
10-30-2010, 01:36 PM
You are free to do what you want, but it's pointless. All the "RJ haters" have been grasping at straws trying to imagine negative ramifications and panic stricken scenarios where RJ's contract was going to lock the Spurs out of making any other beneficial deals and mire the team in bottom dweller territory for years. Now that this argumentative artifice is crumbling, it's just a good idea to let it go. There is nothing to be gained by arguing this point any further.

Throw it down, one time. :hat

Mel_13
10-30-2010, 01:37 PM
Great news for the Spurs, Parker, and the fans.

Kudos to both sides for resolving this so early in the process. It's just fantastic that we can all look forward to Tim, Tony, and Manu all completing their careers in San Antonio.

ChumpDumper
10-30-2010, 01:37 PM
Hill could fill Parker's position just fineWhat makes anyone think that?

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 01:38 PM
No you actually quoted me and was completely wrong. No one loved RJ's contract. Some of us just admired how the front office resigned the best realistic small forward available. And a few of us were aware that his contract (even being slightly overpaid), didn't necessarily hurt the Spurs chances at resigning Parker or hurt their potential rebuilding process in 3 years.

And I'm not crying nor am I a female.

Nice try though :tu

I actually quoted you because you made the dumb ass comment. It makes sense that when the person makes a blanket comment, that he or she is quoted.

I still very well could hurt the rebuilding process and getting TP at a steal had nothing to do with RJ's contact. The Spurs are still LT payers next year.

Libri
10-30-2010, 01:38 PM
Spurs must have a very convincing long term plan that TP couldn't pass up. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/fragend/confused-smiley-013.gif

Now that TP has no distractions, I expect him to play great. Awesome news for my fantasy team. :D

TIMMYD!
10-30-2010, 01:39 PM
Wow, great news. Really unexpected that this would happen so early in the season and at such a great bargain.

MaNu4Tres
10-30-2010, 01:39 PM
Great news for the Spurs, Parker, and the fans.

Kudos to both sides for resolving this so early in the process. It's just fantastic that we can all look forward to Tim, Tony, and Manu all completing their careers in San Antonio.

+1

I feel this year can be something really special.

Just a gut feeling.

Kamnik
10-30-2010, 01:43 PM
Awsome!

MaNu4Tres
10-30-2010, 01:45 PM
I actually quoted you because you made the dumb ass comment. It makes sense that when the person makes a blanket comment, that he or she is quoted.

I still very well could hurt the rebuilding process and getting TP at a steal had nothing to do with RJ's contact. The Spurs are still LT payers next year.

:rolleyes

Keep digging.

GoSpurs99
10-30-2010, 01:53 PM
Way to go...."Pete Holt" (best Arrested Development voice)!!!

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 01:54 PM
You are free to do what you want, but it's pointless. All the "RJ haters" have been grasping at straws trying to imagine negative ramifications and panic stricken scenarios where RJ's contract was going to lock the Spurs out of making any other beneficial deals and mire the team in bottom dweller territory for years. Now that this argumentative artifice is crumbling, it's just a good idea to let it go. There is nothing to be gained by arguing this point any further.

:lmao at Cuckolds calling scoreboard 3 years early...

Also :lmao at Cuckolds speaking out of both sides of their mouth: "See, RJ's contract wouldn't effect TP's contract" while at the same time saying "Tiago would not have been here if not for RJ's opt out"

:lmao at using TP's contract as a sign that says RJ's contract is good.

Most of the RJ contract haters never believed TP would be the casualty (see my post on the matter). What we did say is that they robbed Peter (not a LT payer this that we know of) to pay Paul (extending TP all but guarantees they are LT payers next year).

None of that changes because of this signing. Bunch of scoreboard calling douches...

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 01:55 PM
:rolleyes

Keep digging.

Keep :cry

Trill Clinton
10-30-2010, 01:55 PM
Yes!!!

silverblk mystix
10-30-2010, 01:58 PM
It has always been pretty simple.
The spurs organization from the top down has always been straightforward.

Spurs players are pretty much , honest and straightforward. Tim,Tony & Manu are three of the simplest, most honorable NBA players.

They have integrity and don't play mind games.
Ask any of them a question and they answer it honestly. No coyness, no games & no false bravado like a Kobe or a Lebron would do.

If a team beats them-they admit that the other team was better, Kobe would answer the question by sayin that he could score at any time and he just happened to allow the other team to get away-or some such bullshit.

TP has answered truthfully from the get-go....but people here and everywhere else CHOSE to try and not believe it.

People are so used to bullshit that when they hear a spurs player say something-they look for the bullshit- instead of just believing the truth.

Tony never, ever said anything different except that he wanted to be a spur.

ohmwrecker
10-30-2010, 02:03 PM
:lmao at Cuckolds calling scoreboard 3 years early...

lol word of the day calendar
lol not knowing definition
lol random non-sensical quoting


Also :lmao at Cuckolds speaking out of both sides of their mouth: "See, RJ's contract wouldn't effect TP's contract" while at the same time saying "Tiago would not have been here if not for RJ's opt out"

Never said either one of those things. Again, quote somebody else.


:lmao at using TP's contract as a sign that says RJ's contract is good.

Again, didn't happen.


Most of the RJ contract haters never believed TP would be the casualty (see my post on the matter). What we did say is that they robbed Peter (not a LT payer this that we know of) to pay Paul (extending TP all but guarantees they are LT payers next year).

None of that changes because of this signing. Bunch of scoreboard calling douches...

Some did, some didn't . . . lol assuming I'm talking about you even though I didn't address you or quote you. Paranoid much? Self-obsessed rather? lol "see my post" . . . WOW! The Peter/Paul thing is played out, dude. btw tbh imo . . . douche.

mingus
10-30-2010, 02:05 PM
+1

I feel this year can be something really special.

Just a gut feeling.

if the last ten years has shown anything, it's that you need to have perimiter defense to win a chmapionship. Spurs aren't getting further than the 3rd round if they can't trade for someone that shores up their perimiter defense (or one of George Hill or Anderson step it up big time in that respect, which i think is unlikely), which is not at contender status at this point.

Blackjack
10-30-2010, 02:05 PM
First, we have no idea what a LT payer will look like next year. We don't know how contracts signed before the renegotiation will be handled, whether they're grandfathered or altogether altered.

Secondly, even if the Spurs find themselves a taxpayer next year, it will very likely only be a technicality. The Spurs save $16-17M this year if they remain below the tax, therefore if they don't exceed the savings they're not making any new expenditures, they've just managed to pay at a later date, one that would make the books more palatable.

More often than not, the Spurs know what they're doing financially. It seems they believed they had to give a little to get, and RJ was the beneficiary.

And with the way things are playing out, it's hard to argue with the way they've gone about their business thus far.

romain.star
10-30-2010, 02:06 PM
Good news !

I'd have found it so weird to see one of the Big 3 with a non spurs jersey

Quite surprised by that 50 M deal though...

Anyway, Parker will make +110 M dollars over his career (+ ad contracts) so don't expect me to praise Parker for ''giving up'' +10 millions dollars.

You are not underpaid when you get millions and millions of dollars to put an orange ball in a basket

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 02:06 PM
Played out, true. Same difference.

lol responding to Bump's troll like he is a real person.

lol not knowing how the word Cuckold is used on ST.

Also, lol at the most self conscious butt hurt dude on the site saying something :lol

"Grey 4 life!!!" See it is a joke, I am not serious because I put it in my avatar and I used the number 4 instead of "for"!!!!!!!!!!

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 02:08 PM
First, we have no idea what a LT payer will look like next year. We don't know how contracts signed before the renegotiation will be handled, whether they're grandfathered or altogether altered.

Secondly, even if the Spurs find themselves a taxpayer next year, it will very likely only be a technicality. The Spurs save $16-17M this year if they remain below the tax, therefore if they don't exceed the savings they're not making any new expenditures, they've just managed to pay at a later date, one that would make the books more palatable.

More often than not, the Spurs know what they're doing financially. It seems they believed they had to give a little to get, and RJ was the beneficiary.

And with the way things are playing out, it's hard to argue with the way they've gone about their business thus far.

Sure, but that does not change the fact that a bunch of little score-boarding douches run around here like TP's contracts confirms everything about RJ's.

RJ's contract was a bad one. End of story. Now, could it end up working out? Sure. But when the contract was paid, the player himself was overpaid by a lot and no external reasoning changes that.

ChumpDumper
10-30-2010, 02:11 PM
I don't get why it is so difficult to understand RJ's contract.

The Spurs avoid tax this season, a tax that may cease to exist after the new CBA is negotiated.

Brazil
10-30-2010, 02:11 PM
Wow thats an awsome news for TP and the Spurs !!!

I agree with timvp, Tony has to fire his agent, 50 M / 4 years is a bargain for the Spurs.

I think the FNT influenced this contract, if true, it shows two things: the very strong relation between TP and the Spurs and the real Tony's passion for the FNT.

BTW TP haters can suck his ass !

Silver&Black
10-30-2010, 02:14 PM
Thank you Jesus!!! I'm sooo happy that we're keeping both of our pgs. Parker and Hill make an explosive 1-2 punch.

ohmwrecker
10-30-2010, 02:16 PM
Played out, true. Same difference.

lol responding to Bump's troll like he is a real person.

lol not knowing how the word Cuckold is used on ST.

Also, lol at the most self conscious butt hurt dude on the site saying something :lol

"Grey 4 life!!!" See it is a joke, I am not serious because I put it in my avatar and I used the number 4 instead of "for"!!!!!!!!!!

What's with the personal attack, dude. Are you so "butthurt" that I don't even have to mention your name anymore? lol thinking I give a shit about your little "forum fantasy world". Weak. I expect better from you.


Where did I call scoreboard?

EricB
10-30-2010, 02:19 PM
I don't get why it is so difficult to understand RJ's contract.

The Spurs avoid tax this season, a tax that may cease to exist after the new CBA is negotiated.


Gotta have a whipping boy...

itzsoweezee
10-30-2010, 02:20 PM
Yes!

Brazil
10-30-2010, 02:22 PM
great fucking day for portnoy and parker2112 :cry :cry :cry

Blackjack
10-30-2010, 02:27 PM
Sure, but that does not change the fact that a bunch of little score-boarding douches run around here like TP's contracts confirms everything about RJ's.

RJ's contract was a bad one. End of story. Now, could it end up working out? Sure. But when the contract was paid, the player himself was overpaid by a lot and no external reasoning changes that.

I'm just looking at this from the Spurs view, I couldn't care less about the score-boarding -- after all, I've got a vested interest in DPG with my sponsorship. :smokin

If you want to say RJ's overpaid and it's a bad contract in that respect, not sure how anyone could argue. But it's not looking to be a bad contract when it comes to the Spurs and their front office.

They guaranteed they'd be a taxpayer for 2 years when they traded for RJ, but refinancing RJ allowed them to save $16-17M in a year they were supposed to pay tax. They'll likely be a taxpayer next year, which would be what they expected all along (Jefferson equaling 2 years of taxpayer status), but they may not -- or it could be an easier pill to swallow after the savings and CBA renegotiation.

I'm just glad we're gonna have a competitive team for a long while now and that the Spurs are giving themselves the opportunity to finish strong with the Big 3.

Good day to be Spurfan. :flag:

Russ
10-30-2010, 02:27 PM
Wow thats an awsome news for TP and the Spurs !!!

I agree with timvp, Tony has to fire his agent, 50 M / 4 years is a bargain for the Spurs.

Have you checked out the glut of good point guards in the NBA?

This is a great deal for the Spurs and TP.

But to say this is somehow inexplicable or that TP's agent screwed up is to fail to view the NBA market for PGs (many of them young) as it is.

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 02:28 PM
What's with the personal attack, dude. Are you so "butthurt" that I don't even have to mention your name anymore? lol thinking I give a shit about your little "forum fantasy world". Weak. I expect better from you.

:lol Personal attacks? Like saying someone is paranoid and self obsessed? Keep in mind, you are the guy who said this in the same thread:

"HA!

The sooner everyone realizes that I am always right, the better off we will all be. I'm not gloating, I just care about you"

Just because someone calls you one on your little faults (everyone has them), does not mean they are attacking you. We all call each other out on here...especially those who interact a lot.



Where did I call scoreboard?

See above quote...Using TP's contract as a means to say "Ha!" to RJ's makes little sense to me.

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 02:30 PM
I don't get why it is so difficult to understand RJ's contract.

The Spurs avoid tax this season, a tax that may cease to exist after the new CBA is negotiated.

Sure, most of us understand that. That does not mean RJ the player was not overpaid.

40M no matter what is too much for RJ. If it wasn't, another team would have offered him the same or more to pry him away in an off season that saw guys like Petro and Outlaw get sizable contracts.

PopRocks
10-30-2010, 02:31 PM
Everyone's missing the fact that the FO updated the uni's.
All Tony wanted was that V neck.
Deal done...:lmao

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 02:31 PM
I'm just looking at this from the Spurs view, I couldn't care less about the score-boarding -- after all, I've got a vested interest in DPG with my sponsorship. :smokin

If you want to say RJ's overpaid and it's a bad contract in that respect, not sure how anyone could argue. But it's not looking to be a bad contract when it comes to the Spurs and their front office.

They guaranteed they'd be a taxpayer for 2 years when they traded for RJ, but refinancing RJ allowed them to save $16-17M in a year they were supposed to pay tax. They'll likely be a taxpayer next year, which would be what they expected all along (Jefferson equaling 2 years of taxpayer status), but they may not -- or it could be an easier pill to swallow after the savings and CBA renegotiation.

I'm just glad we're gonna have a competitive team for a long while now and that the Spurs are giving themselves the opportunity to finish strong with the Big 3.

Good day to be Spurfan. :flag:

Agreed. Now instead of being just thrilled about TP's contract I am outrageously pissed about the RJ situation. I am furious.




































Obviously not.

ohmwrecker
10-30-2010, 02:31 PM
I really have to explain to you that I was joking?!

The "Ha!" was directed at the people who believed Tony was leaving. That had absolutely nothing to do with RJ . . . at all . . . nothing. lol assumptions.

ohmwrecker
10-30-2010, 02:33 PM
Obviously not.

Obviously.

Brazil
10-30-2010, 02:34 PM
Have you checked out the glut of good point guards in the NBA?

This is a great deal for the Spurs and TP.

But to say this is somehow inexplicable or that TP's agent screwed up is to fail to view the NBA market for PGs (many of them young) as it is.

i was kidding on the fire stuff nevertheless I'm pretty sure TP could have obtained a much better deal somewhere else IMHO: some franchises are plain crazy regarding contracts.

Anyway its a fucking great news for everybody: spurs, fans, tp...

Russ
10-30-2010, 02:36 PM
i was kidding on the fire stuff nevertheless I'm pretty sure TP could have obtained a much better deal somewhere else IMHO: some franchises are plain crazy regarding contracts.

Anyway its a fucking great news for everybody: spurs, fans, tp...

:flag::flag::flag::flag:

Brazil
10-30-2010, 02:37 PM
:flag::flag::flag::flag:


:toast:flag:

Mr.Robinson
10-30-2010, 02:39 PM
And yeah, I think this definitely signals he's afraid of the new CBA.
4 years 50? How the fuck do the Spurs get such bargains. Jesus.

Spurs org is not your normal nba team. Horry always talked about how different it was with the Spurs.

ohmwrecker
10-30-2010, 02:43 PM
Spurs org is not your normal nba team. Horry always talked about how different it was with the Spurs.

It was pretty obvious that if he was going to re-sign, he would have to take less money. Tony has shut down all the haters. What a cool mother . . .

see my post . . . :lmao

Holy shit! That's good stuff.

baseline bum
10-30-2010, 02:51 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!! The Spurs got a great deal and I'm ecstatic to see TP locked-up longterm!

lefty
10-30-2010, 02:52 PM
We are fucked

baseline bum
10-30-2010, 02:53 PM
LOL new-age Spurs fan.

roycrikside
10-30-2010, 02:54 PM
This is great news and I'm happy Tony is staying here and the team will be stable. However, count me among those who think Tony panicked because of CBA unrest.

He is too smart of a businessman to leave money on the table. David Stern is talking about slashing salaries 33% for the next CBA, so it makes sense for Tony to get what he can while the getting's good.

He's partly a victim of timing. If he was a free agent last year or even two years ago, he could've gotten 15M+ or the max. Still I'm glad he's loyal to the Spurs. It shows our players and our culture is different than other teams.

Pauleta14
10-30-2010, 02:55 PM
4-year, $40 million for RJ.

4-year, $50 million for TP. :lol

I know the pending lockout is a bit scary but TP took a fraction of what he could have made on the open market. Parker should fire his agent.

But I'm not complainin' :smokin

I think he really wanted to stay at "all cost", and having such a "low" contract is actually the best way of never be traded, because the spurs won't find the same value in return for him...

I was surprised at first like everybody by the amount, but the more it goes, the more I find it "explainable"!

- He didn't want/wasn't ready to go elsewhere, despite what he said (his life is settled in SA, he can't find a team/city/.. where he is more comfortable)+ All the "true" contenders ALREADY have an elite PG!

- The CBA/lock out (and his availability next summer that he already anounced for the FNT that will lower his value if he is still on the market).

- He is rich enough, it's not 3 or 4 more millions/year that will make him happier

- He wants his team to be a contender and understand the less he takes, the more the FO can recruit better players

- The sooner the extention was announced, the lesser "distraction" there would be among the media AND his teammates and the better the whole team could be focuced.

- There are more and more young ( potentialy great)PG coming every years, it's not like 3 or 4 years ago when every team wanted it's own speedy PG, now there aren't that many spots available (Rondo, Rose, Westrook, Jennings, Paul, Deron, Wall, Evans, Harris, Brooks, ... and Nash, Kidd, Davis or Fisher won't retire next summer).

- About his agent, he probably told Tony he could get more from the Spurs by waiting a bit (a la Manu last year) with the risks of injury, lockout, no contender offers...).

Finaly it's more a win-win that it appears at first...

ps/ I can't wait to hear what answer Tony will give to reporters that will ask him about his quote ("this is our last shot/year as contenders...) now that he is there for 4 more years! :lol

baseline bum
10-30-2010, 02:58 PM
He could have received more if he had it in writing that he would no longer play in the summer.

That's not allowed under the NBA's collective bargaining agreement.

benefactor
10-30-2010, 02:59 PM
The "Ha!" was directed at the people who believed Tony was leaving. That had absolutely nothing to do with RJ . . . at all . . . nothing. lol assumptions.

All the "RJ haters" have been grasping at straws trying to imagine negative ramifications and panic stricken scenarios where RJ's contract was going to lock the Spurs out of making any other beneficial deals and mire the team in bottom dweller territory for years.
lol calling scoreboard than backpedaling.

Again...there is no reason to gloat about the contract in regards to RJ because not a one of you had a fucking clue things were going to turn out this way.

At the end of the day I am glad he re-signed and I am just as glad about the deal. I just don't understand why they couldn't sign the same type of deal with RJ from a value standpoint.

mountainballer
10-30-2010, 03:00 PM
reasonable deal for both Spurs AND Tony.
good to hear he stays with the Spurs for the next 5 seasons.

what I don't get: people run around as if the Spurs just have signed him for half his market value or less.
this contract pretty much IS his contract value. maybe a little hometown discount and a little security discount as well. that's it.
do you really think Tony gets that much more on the 2011 free agent market? at 29 with about 900 NBA games on his wheels.
sorry, but that's a bit naive. Tony is very good, but he isn't a max player at this point.
(and the RJ er signing doesn't change this. the RJ contract was a result of tax implications and the limited options of the Spurs on the free agent market. RJ was just at the right time on the right place. lucky guy, such things happen, even in real live)

This Tons re signing sets some more points IMO. Spurs will very likely be tax payers next season. question is, if they are willing to pay tax in 2011-12 (when either Tim and manu will be a year older), will staying under the threshold in this season really be a major goal? (assuming Splitter plays well, IMO there is a good chance they trade Dice for a wing player during the season, even if this move might push them over the threshold)

and it means a pretty difficult situation in 2012, if Tim in fact retires. Spurs can likely either re sign Hill, or try to get a premium big man via free agency to replace Tim, but likely not both. there might be more need for the big man than for Hill. (especially if Anderson is a gem)

baseline bum
10-30-2010, 03:03 PM
4 years 50 million for an all star point guard? :lol suck it Parker haters...


Wow. Great news. That's a hell of a deal for the Spurs.

Wow, the Spurs got Tony to take a $2.6 million discount on his base salary for next year. The contract could have cost about $65 million had he taken the standard 105% of previous year's salary as the base plus the 10% raises in years 2,3, and 4.

Pauleta14
10-30-2010, 03:06 PM
We are fucked

:lol

I was looking 4 your reaction, you never dispoint me! :toast

boutons_deux
10-30-2010, 03:06 PM
Maybe Tony was following Tim's example of leaving $Ms on the table.

ohmwrecker
10-30-2010, 03:08 PM
lol calling scoreboard than backpedaling.

You do realize those are two separate posts that had absolutely nothing to do with each other, right. lol backpedaling.


Again...there is no reason to gloat about the contract in regards to RJ because not a one of you had a fucking clue things were going to turn out this way.

At the end of the day I am glad he re-signed and I am just as glad about the deal. I just don't understand why they couldn't sign the same type of deal with RJ from a value standpoint.

Who's gloating? However, I did state that I would be surprised if the FO entered into the deal with RJ without forethought on how it would effect a TP extension . . . for what it's worth.

My point (that is being missed) is that complaining about RJ's contract is not currently relative or constructive. The deal is done with no immediate mal-effects. I wasn't the one who brought up RJ on this thread either. btw tbh imo . . . see my post . . . :hat

lefty
10-30-2010, 03:11 PM
I think he really wanted to stay at "all cost", and having such a "low" contract is actually the best way of never be traded, because the spurs won't find the same value in return for him...

I was surprised at first like everybody by the amount, but the more it goes, the more I find it "explainable"!

- He didn't want/wasn't ready to go elsewhere, despite what he said (his life is settled in SA, he can't find a team/city/.. where he is more comfortable)+ All the "true" contenders ALREADY have an elite PG!

- The CBA/lock out (and his availability next summer that he already anounced for the FNT that will lower his value if he is still on the market).

- He is rich enough, it's not 3 or 4 more millions/year that will make him happier

- He wants his team to be a contender and understand the less he takes, the more the FO can recruit better players

- The sooner the extention was announced, the lesser "distraction" there would be among the media AND his teammates and the better the whole team could be focuced.

- There are more and more young ( potentialy great)PG coming every years, it's not like 3 or 4 years ago when every team wanted it's own speedy PG, now there aren't that many spots available (Rondo, Rose, Westrook, Jennings, Paul, Deron, Wall, Evans, Harris, Brooks, ... and Nash, Kidd, Davis or Fisher won't retire next summer).

- About his agent, he probably told Tony he could get more from the Spurs by waiting a bit (a la Manu last year) with the risks of injury, lockout, no contender offers...).

Finaly it's more a win-win that it appears at first...

ps/ I can't wait to hear what answer Tony will give to reporters that will ask him about his quote ("this is our last shot/year as contenders...) now that he is there for 4 more years! :lol

The Lakers and Magic have elite PG'S ????????

lefty
10-30-2010, 03:11 PM
:lol

I was looking 4 your reaction, you never dispoint me! :toast
:lol:toast

elemento
10-30-2010, 03:13 PM
I'm wondering if that means Timmy will stay longer than we thought'. Like 3 or 4 more years.

I think Timmy could still play in a high level until 36

That would be awesome

Parker2112
10-30-2010, 03:14 PM
We are a better team for it. The continuity is going to serve us well.

Pauleta14
10-30-2010, 03:16 PM
this contract pretty much IS his contract value.

Tony is very good, but he isn't a max player at this point.



There are a lot of $ between what he did get and a "max contract"...

A deal at around 60m$/4 years or >70m$/5 years seemed "reasonable" for us (the spurs) and he could probably have gotten more as a free agent to a "desperate for a PG" team... (even with a new CBA)

Pauleta14
10-30-2010, 03:21 PM
The Lakers and Magic have elite PG'S ????????

I wanted to make it "short"...

But to answer you, I didn't mention those two teams, because they are so much "way over the cap", with not enough cap room next summer, that they were not even relevant in term of "prospection"...

I thought about it, but I don't see anyway Tony could have joined any of those teams... The only way was a sign and trade, but do you really imagine Pop accepting to trade Tony to the Lakers?

Feel free to prove me wrong! :toast

Dex
10-30-2010, 03:21 PM
Tony answered all his doubters about his commitment AND did the Spurs a giant favor financially, and STILL haters gonna hate. :rolleyes

024
10-30-2010, 03:22 PM
wow, that is quite the bargain.

benefactor
10-30-2010, 03:23 PM
Who's gloating?



All the "RJ haters" have been grasping at straws trying to imagine negative ramifications and panic stricken scenarios where RJ's contract was going to lock the Spurs out of making any other beneficial deals and mire the team in bottom dweller territory for years.

This isn't gloating...or calling scoreboard? It gives the impression that you knew full and well that the Spurs were going to get a discount on Parker...which couldn't be further from the truth.


I wasn't the one who brought up RJ on this thread either. btw tbh imo . . . see my post . . . :hat
I know...it was his catcher Manu4Tres. All I am saying is that bringing it up at all in regards to calling out those who criticized the contract is flat stupid.

Pauleta14
10-30-2010, 03:27 PM
I'm wondering if that means Timmy will stay longer than we thought'. Like 3 or 4 more years.

I think Timmy could still play in a high level until 36

That would be awesome


+1

Even without Tony's extention, that's a no brainer for me!!!

I see him renagociate his actual contract (a la RJ) and extend it for a couple years... (until Tony's contract end)

I feel like I'm on a US presidential campain : "Four More Years! Four More Years! ........ :lol

:lobt2::flag:

024
10-30-2010, 03:27 PM
i'm not a parker hater but this pretty much seals together this team. i would prefer if the spurs waited for a while to see how well this team can compete before offering the extension. like it or not, parker was really the only large trade chip the spurs had. if things were not working out and a very nice trade opportunity comes up, then the spurs always have that exit plan. but, can't complain on 50million/4 years. if parker returns to all star form, then he might cost a whole lot more.

VBM
10-30-2010, 03:27 PM
Gotta be because Eva loves Whataburger. awesome news though! Props to Tony! :tu

fify

Mark in Austin
10-30-2010, 03:31 PM
holy crap that's a great deal for the Spurs. :tu

Purch
10-30-2010, 03:32 PM
Once again proving half the articles saying a player wants to leave are pure bs

mountainballer
10-30-2010, 03:32 PM
There are a lot of $ between what he did get and a "max contract"...

A deal at around 60m$/4 years or >70m$/5 years seemed "reasonable" for us (the spurs) and he could probably have gotten more as a free agent to a "desperate for a PG" team... (even with a new CBA)

those are the key words. he wouldn't be the first to learn that "could probably have gotten more" more often backfires than it in fact materializes.

and I know what max money is. I was referring to the commenst that mad his signing look as if he was a max player signing for the money he did.

(btw. I wouldn't have called 60/4 reasonable. 15M per is a lot, especially when considering it also generates tax in 2012 and that in his last 2 years Tony might not be able to deliver as he used to.)

ohmwrecker
10-30-2010, 03:35 PM
This isn't gloating...or calling scoreboard? It gives the impression that you knew full and well that the Spurs were going to get a discount on Parker...which couldn't be further from the truth.

No. I did say that I thought TP would resign and that, when he did, he would accept less money than he would have likely fetched on the open market. I'm not a clairvoyant. I'm just using common sense here.


I know...it was his catcher Manu4Tres. All I am saying is that bringing it up at all in regards to calling out those who criticized the contract is flat stupid.

Although, I am catching all the flack, I didn't bring it up. I was specifically referring to those who said that RJ's contract would keep the Spurs from re-signing Parker. I have no fucking clue why you and DPG seem so personally offended by this statement since you both claim to have never said that.

And, just for clarification . . . I have . . . not once . . . ever stated that I liked RJ's contract.

Kool Bob Love
10-30-2010, 03:37 PM
Nyyyceeee!

ChuckD
10-30-2010, 03:40 PM
Could Hill soon be on the market???


Why? So we can sign another old corpse to back up Tony?

Fail.

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 03:45 PM
This is TP's time to shine (again). A healthy, happy TP could make a huge difference. I hope he lights it up this year.

Let us proceed...

ShoogarBear
10-30-2010, 03:49 PM
I'm ecstatic

I knew he had to be somebody's troll.

ChuckD
10-30-2010, 03:50 PM
I actually quoted you because you made the dumb ass comment. It makes sense that when the person makes a blanket comment, that he or she is quoted.

I still very well could hurt the rebuilding process and getting TP at a steal had nothing to do with RJ's contact. The Spurs are still LT payers next year.

How do you figure THAT? Tony's salary for next year will be lower than this year, McDyess is retiring and will only count $2.6M (half salary guaranteed). Besides, there might not even BE a next year.

Pauleta14
10-30-2010, 03:50 PM
those are the key words. he wouldn't be the first to learn that "could probably have gotten more" more often backfires than it in fact materializes.

and I know what max money is. I was referring to the commenst that mad his signing look as if he was a max player signing for the money he did.

(btw. I wouldn't have called 60/4 reasonable. 15M per is a lot, especially when considering it also generates tax in 2012 and that in his last 2 years Tony might not be able to deliver as he used to.)

I guess that by the end of the season (depending on Tony's production), one of us will be right... :toast

FromWayDowntown
10-30-2010, 03:51 PM
This is absolutely wonderful news!

lurker23
10-30-2010, 03:52 PM
Besides, there might not even BE a next year.

C'mon, don't be so pessimistic....even the believers in the 2012 doomsday say we still have 2 more years to live.

Spurs Brazil
10-30-2010, 03:53 PM
GREAT news!!!!

http://www.nba.com/media/finals2007/parker_mvp_300_070614.jpg

Pauleta14
10-30-2010, 03:55 PM
This is TP's time to shine (again). A healthy, happy TP could make a huge difference. I hope he lights it up this year.

Let us proceed...

... And a TP who doesn't care anymore about the impact/apreciation(...) OF HIS STATS !!

Leonard Curse
10-30-2010, 03:57 PM
ill admit i was a big time advocate of parker being traded, and as the years went by i thought " no one wants to do business with the spurs" and it seems like no one was going to give us shit for parker so why not have the best of both worlds!?!?!

parker and hill because if we lost parker we would have hill but no longer that solid backup. so i was gradually rooting to keep em all but hey you cant beat this deal and this is really the best scenario.

i was hoping for an allstar in return (trade) soon realizing no one would bite. but hey some of you were right the whole time and i was definitely wrong about his loyalty here. anyhow my loyalty is to the spurs and this is for the good of the org. and im ecstatic !!!

So RJ deal =wow Splitters deal=holy shit parkers deal= priceless however i do believe it has everything to do with his national team commitment i think thats the reason for this amazing deal

ducks
10-30-2010, 03:57 PM
be intersting to see what cp3 gets now

this is great news

ChuckD
10-30-2010, 03:58 PM
reasonable deal for both Spurs AND Tony.
good to hear he stays with the Spurs for the next 5 seasons.

what I don't get: people run around as if the Spurs just have signed him for half his market value or less.
this contract pretty much IS his contract value. maybe a little hometown discount and a little security discount as well. that's it.
do you really think Tony gets that much more on the 2011 free agent market? at 29 with about 900 NBA games on his wheels.
sorry, but that's a bit naive. Tony is very good, but he isn't a max player at this point.
(and the RJ er signing doesn't change this. the RJ contract was a result of tax implications and the limited options of the Spurs on the free agent market. RJ was just at the right time on the right place. lucky guy, such things happen, even in real live)

This Tons re signing sets some more points IMO. Spurs will very likely be tax payers next season. question is, if they are willing to pay tax in 2011-12 (when either Tim and manu will be a year older), will staying under the threshold in this season really be a major goal? (assuming Splitter plays well, IMO there is a good chance they trade Dice for a wing player during the season, even if this move might push them over the threshold)

and it means a pretty difficult situation in 2012, if Tim in fact retires. Spurs can likely either re sign Hill, or try to get a premium big man via free agency to replace Tim, but likely not both. there might be more need for the big man than for Hill. (especially if Anderson is a gem)

Market value is what you can get from desperate teams. NYKs would have paid him the MAX amount and the MAX years they could, no questions.

Leonard Curse
10-30-2010, 04:03 PM
if the last ten years has shown anything, it's that you need to have perimiter defense to win a chmapionship. Spurs aren't getting further than the 3rd round if they can't trade for someone that shores up their perimiter defense (or one of George Hill or Anderson step it up big time in that respect, which i think is unlikely), which is not at contender status at this point.


i think your absolutely right! the more i see raja bell in utah tearing ppl a new asshole the more i cringe. pop should have aggresively pursued him+ offerd good money and let bonner go. i mean that would have been a difference maker and a much bigger priority than resigning that ymca baller

i mean once splitter comes in hes going to improve our defense quite a bit but if we had that lock down defender we would balance out really well as a team

Cant_Be_Faded
10-30-2010, 04:04 PM
Props to Parker. Just makes me love that guy all the more.

Spurs fans are soooo spoiled it's comical.

mountainballer
10-30-2010, 04:18 PM
Market value is what you can get from desperate teams. NYKs would have paid him the MAX amount and the MAX years they could, no questions.

instead of signing Melo? yeah sure.
Knicks either trade for Melo during the season (and re sign him, so they don't have the cap room for Tony), or they wait for him to become a FA 2011. they might be able to free cap space for a max contract 2011. not for two.

Solid D
10-30-2010, 04:18 PM
I am so happy that the Spurs believed in Tony and in their future enough to re-sign him!!! That was my biggest concern - that the franchise wanted to protect Parker from free agency and truly valued TP as a future kingpin. He's the youngest of the Big 3 and he's the best scoring point guard the Spurs have ever had. Even better than Captain Late.

Hat's off to the Spurs and congratulations to Tony. With all the talk of 33% cuts and contraction, it's good that TP went with what was behind Door # 1.

stéphane
10-30-2010, 04:22 PM
Awesome news wether it be for our franchise or for Parker.
Now he won't feel like he has to prove something through stats and focus on playing good team ball.

Solid D
10-30-2010, 04:26 PM
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157434

This is the article and thread that caused so much heartburn, doubt, discussion and misunderstanding.

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 04:28 PM
I just wonder why other teams did not use this fear to drive down the price for Gay, JJ, .....They all cashed in above their perceived market value.

I guess the fact there were so many teams with cap space forced teams to overpay even though they had leverage.

dunkman
10-30-2010, 04:29 PM
Hopefully, the big 3 will retire as Spurs, same as David Robinson. Too bad Gervin couldn't do the same.

Cant_Be_Faded
10-30-2010, 04:30 PM
I just wonder why other teams did not use this fear to drive down the price for Gay, JJ, .....They all cashed in above their perceived market value.

I guess the fact there were so many teams with cap space forced teams to overpay even though they had leverage.

Also a testament to how damn well run the FO is when it comes to the books.

TD 21
10-30-2010, 04:44 PM
But but RJ's new deal meant no Parker!

Remember, the Spurs don't need Parker when they have Hill. Never mind that Hill is a combo guard (more of a two than a one) and Pop is obsessed with managing minutes, they can't possibly need or find time for three quality guards. Two is more than enough.

I was pleasantly surprised, as I'm sure everyone was, to see this today. It really came out of the blue. If he approximates the form he showed a year and a half ago (statistically he won't, because this team has much more firepower than that team), then this is a steal.

I figured he wanted to stay when he repeatedly said as much (I'm intuitive like that). Players who don't want to stay avoid, dodge or answer indirectly to that question. Parker never did any of that. He answered it head on every time, never wavering and never hesitating. I do, however, think that he would have wanted to go to the Knicks had he not been able to re-sign with the Spurs. That was the part that was left out of all of those rumors...only the most important part.

I'm surprised he took less than Ginobili (not saying he's better; he's not). Parker is younger, plays more minutes, has made more for years and figures to, if not necessarily overtake Ginobili as a player over the life of their respective deals, at least bear more of a burden, both offensively and minutes played-wise.

ducks
10-30-2010, 04:45 PM
Remember, the Spurs don't need Parker when they have Hill. Never mind that Hill is a combo guard (more of a two than a one), Pop is obsessed with managing and limiting minutes, they can't possibly need or find time for three good guards. Two is more than enough.

I was pleasantly surprised, as I'm sure everyone was, to see this today. It really came out of the blue. If he approximates the form he showed a year and a half ago (statistically he won't, because this team has much more firepower than that team), then this is a steal.

I figured he wanted to stay when he repeatedly said as much (I'm intuitive like that). Players who don't want to stay avoid, dodge or answer indirectly to that question. Parker never did any of that. He answered it head on every time, never wavering and never hesitating. I do, however, think that he would have wanted to go to the Knicks had he not been able to re-sign with the Spurs. That was the part that was left out of all of those rumors...only the most important part.

I'm surprised he took less than Ginobili (not saying he's better; he's not). Parker is younger, plays more minutes, has made more for years and figures to, if not necessarily overtake Ginobili as a player over the life of their respective deals, at least bear more of a burden, both offensively and minutes played-wise.


remind me why you think spurs do not need tp when they have hill

HILL is not the solution to be a full time point guard

SenorSpur
10-30-2010, 04:46 PM
Great news.

Boy, doesn't Jalen Rose look more like that damn fool that he already was?

ducks
10-30-2010, 04:46 PM
melo of the nuggets I bet well sign an extension or gets traded
tp signed because of the lockout possiblity so will melo


melo signs the extention he actually would be easier to trade

toki9
10-30-2010, 04:49 PM
I just wonder why other teams did not use this fear to drive down the price for Gay, JJ, .....They all cashed in above their perceived market value.

I guess the fact there were so many teams with cap space forced teams to overpay even though they had leverage.

Maybe money really is not the end-all/be-all for Tony (or Manu, for that matter)...I kind of remember Tony's last contract also being lower than what he probably could have gotten...

Playing with Duncan (in his last years) and Manu probably meant a lot...and it looks like the Spurs will largely build around Tony as they transition out of Duncan/Manu years...

It's also interesting how low-key/non-existent Spurs' free agent "drama" has been given all the other free agent/trade "drama" that's been going around in the league...

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 04:51 PM
Maybe money really is not the end-all/be-all for Tony (or Manu, for that matter)...I kind of remember Tony's last contract also being lower than what he probably could have gotten...

Playing with Duncan (in his last years) and Manu probably meant a lot...and it looks like the Spurs will largely build around Tony as they transition out of Duncan/Manu years...

Even so, Spurs always seem to get the hometown discount in a league where that rarely happens.

I suspect that the pool of teams with cap space shrunk compared to this off season, so it gave the Spurs even more leverage.

Compared to a max offer though, it is extremely low.

will_spurs
10-30-2010, 04:53 PM
There's nothing not to love in this contract, and I can totally understand why TP did it (actually I was saying this all summer in the parker-haters threads). As everybody else I'm a bit surprised by the $50m figure, but I think that what TP really wanted was recognition: one way to get that was through a max contract, another one (and the most important point in the interview imo) is to be a franchise player, even though he won't be making franchise money. But he said the Spurs wanted to build around him in the future, and I'm sure that's all the commitment TP wanted.

As a Spurs fan I'm just really happy that the Big 3 will be Spurs for their whole career, it's just an incredible page of the Spurs history and legacy that is being written today. We keep chatting about these players and criticizing or praising them, but in the grand scheme of things the big 3 are Spurs legends. It's really cool to be part of this, even if only as a fan. But what more can a fan ask?

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 04:54 PM
Damn, I am so pumped for tonight's game. I hope TP just destroys N.O.

toki9
10-30-2010, 04:56 PM
Even so, Spurs always seem to get the hometown discount in a league where that rarely happens.

I suspect that the pool of teams with cap space shrunk compared to this off season, so it gave the Spurs even more leverage.

Compared to a max offer though, it is extremely low.

Yep. Very low. No idea how the FO does it, but I'm glad they do. And glad that the Spurs have players who are reasonable about these things (I mean, how many millions do you really need, anyways?). Takes 2 to tango, after all.

Pauleta14
10-30-2010, 04:58 PM
I just wonder why other teams did not use this fear to drive down the price for Gay, JJ, .....They all cashed in above their perceived market value.

I guess the fact there were so many teams with cap space forced teams to overpay even though they had leverage.


They have more things to "fear" about than those players!

I think that it's because they are not attractive enough for free agents who want to win.
So they panic at the idea at loosing the only "good" players they have...

ChuckD
10-30-2010, 05:14 PM
I just wonder why other teams did not use this fear to drive down the price for Gay, JJ, .....They all cashed in above their perceived market value.

I guess the fact there were so many teams with cap space forced teams to overpay even though they had leverage.

Asked and answered. :) Those players weren't facing the new CBA, they were facing the Summer of LeBron, when every stupid team saved cap room for the Arrogant One. I think there were 12-13 MAX slots saved by various teams. Those spurned suitors would have paid anything to any player, which is why MEM and ATL ponied up.

MaNu4Tres
10-30-2010, 05:18 PM
Keep :cry


So now I'm crying? :lol I'm actually pretty damn happy that this TP issue is behind us now and I'm ecstatic Tim, Tony and Manu will all retire as a Spur.

Keep making false accusations about what you think I say to try to make me look stupid, it really is entertaining.

Scoreboard douches? Me making dumbass comments when I'm not even quoting anyone? Yet you quote me saying something I never said?

Too funny.

I make one comment about RJ's contract not having an effect on Tony's contract and you blow up being beyond butthurt like you always are towards me for whatever reason.

Grow up dude.

DPG21920
10-30-2010, 05:21 PM
So now I'm crying? :lol I'm actually pretty damn happy that this TP issue is behind us now and I'm ecstatic Tim, Tony and Manu will all retire as a Spur.

Keep making false accusations about what you think I say to try to make me look stupid, it really is entertaining.

Scoreboard douches? Me making dumbass comments when I'm not even quoting anyone? Yet you quote me saying something I never said?

Too funny.

I make one comment about RJ's contract not having an effect on Tony's contract and you blow up being beyond butthurt like you always are towards me for whatever reason.

Grow up dude.

:rollin says the guy who can't let it go...

:cry DPG is a meanie to me

TD 21
10-30-2010, 05:21 PM
remind me why you think spurs do not need tp when they have hill

HILL is not the solution to be a full time point guard

Granted, sarcasm can sometimes be difficult to detect in print, but in this case, I think it was obvious.

MaNu4Tres was mocking those who claimed Parker couldn't or wouldn't be re-signed and I added on to that by adding other things that were said throughout the process.

MaNu4Tres
10-30-2010, 05:28 PM
:rollin says the guy who can't let it go...

:cry DPG is a meanie to me

I could really care less.

I'm just not going to sit back and let someone quote something I never said.

SenorSpur
10-30-2010, 05:29 PM
The best thing is that the Spurs didn't have to overpay and Parker has contract in line with being one of the top players at his position. It works for both sides. :tu