I don't want to lose to the Lions

[MannyIsGod]

Fuck you DLF

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Don't worry, they're aren't good enough. Yet.

That dropped pick 6 and Stafford underthrowing that ball by a yard or two hurt.

How you like Suh?

[MannyIsGod]

Suh owes McNabb dinner as much as he's been riding him. The pick 6 was a 13 point swing. Pretty nasty drop.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm really disappointed in Brown. Can't believe he can't beat out Hayer for the job.

[MannyIsGod]

Haynesworth on the other hand is starting to become what we've wanted all along. Perhaps Mike Shananahan really did know how to tame him. Pretty amazing if this turn out.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Skins' OL is the worst I've seen from them in at least a decade.

[MannyIsGod]

WHAT THE FUCK. Are we trying to be the fucking Cowboys?

[MannyIsGod]

God damn I love Brandon Banks. Too bad some asshole had to fuck that up.

[ShoogarBear]

Skins @ Lions on Halloween.

Classic setup for a Skins choke job.

[ShoogarBear]

Thank you Burleson.

[MannyIsGod]

Defense is so good at coming up with clutch TOs.

[MannyIsGod]

I fucking hate Heyer and I hate Brown for not being good enough to hold the fucking job.

[ShoogarBear]

Holy shit, Banks!

:worthy:

[MannyIsGod]

Definitely my favorite 'skin right now. How can you not root for this tiny fast mfer?

[ShoogarBear]

Defense needs to uh, cowboy up.

[ShoogarBear]

I hate that phrase. :lol

[MannyIsGod]

They look fairly tired at this point.

[MannyIsGod]

Great job - Can we get a few first downs here on the ground??

[MannyIsGod]

Better idea - can Banks just put this shit away?

[MannyIsGod]

Damn, he's human after all.

[ShoogarBear]

Dammit, why throw that?

[MannyIsGod]

Dumb fucking throw. Pretty shit playcall too, though. Run clock. Trust your fucking defense.

[MannyIsGod]

God damn that play is the antipathy of what you've seen out of this team this year. Thats finding a way to lose when they usually find ways to win.

[ShoogarBear]

Not getting a warm fuzzy here.

Calvin Johnson is being stopped only by penalties or bad throws.

[MannyIsGod]

Well they're getting good pressure.

Penalties are obscene today. They definitely are cowboying up, Shoog.

[ShoogarBear]

Penalties are obscene today. They definitely are cowboying up, Shoog.

Most def.

Touchdown to Johnson. What a surprise.

[MannyIsGod]

Ah fuck.

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao Sellars thought about pitching that.

[MannyIsGod]

What a shit call.

[MannyIsGod]

What another shit call - Armstrong gets nailed 40 yards down field and after the skins have been called for 3 defensive holdings no call.

[MannyIsGod]

Fitting for the Lions to get a sack there.

[ShoogarBear]

Oh, shit. Grossman?

[ShoogarBear]

Oh, shit. Grossman.

[ShoogarBear]

Post game should be verrrrrrrry interesting.

[MannyIsGod]

What. The. Fuck.

[HarlemHeat37]

What the fuck is Shanahan doing?!..

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao



Wow, KC coming up huuuuuge..

[ShoogarBear]

King Rex.

[MannyIsGod]

I mean, the season had been going great and as well as anyone could have hoped. I don't get what you gain by putting Grossman in there in that situation other than really fucking up your team.

I don't understand this and I'm really sad because it feels that the Redskins had a bad day today but Shananhan may have made it way fucking worse.

[MannyIsGod]

He'd better be hurt.

[ShoogarBear]

At some level, McNabb has to be laughing his ass off now.

[MannyIsGod]

It makes absolutely no fucking sense. Yeah - he threw the pick but for the most part when you don't give the guy time its going to fuck him up. He made plays with his feet and the few times he had time he hit targets deep.

NO fucking clue what this is all about.

[MannyIsGod]

At some level, McNabb has to be laughing his ass off now.

He's got a right to be pissed. He's getting no fucking protection.

[MannyIsGod]

Jesus Christ - this is so stupid.

[MannyIsGod]

Rex Grossman will save us with his shitty fucking arm and lack of mobility!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[ShoogarBear]

Real Estate Listings, DC Area:
Sale, A. Haynesworth to D. McNabb, one doghouse

[MannyIsGod]

Look, Haynesworth looks motivated as hell now so maybe Shanahan knows what he's doing but he basically mailed the game in by putting in Grossman and it wasn't McNabb's fucking fault that his line can't block a damn thing.

I just don't see WHY this needed to be done. Hopefully they squash this quick and it doesn't become a distraction. 4-4 in the NFC is well in the playoff race and I hope they don't start blowing this season up.

I thought we had a new Redskins team yet this dysfunction feels all too familiar.

[ShoogarBear]

Talking heads on the Redskins postgame show have no idea what's going on. Waiting for the presser.

[MannyIsGod]

Is that local or is it streamed online shoog?

[ShoogarBear]

Local Comcast Sports Net.

[MannyIsGod]

Bummer.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Suh, how you like me now?

Terrible offensive game plan by the Skins. The Lions have arguably the worst LB core in the league. Where in the hell was Cooley and Davis in the short zones?

Stafford played well after shaking the rust off. That CJ guy is okay, too.

I kept thinking they were setting up Landry when he kept blowing up that smoke screen. Laron has really picked up his game this year.

[ShoogarBear]

Nothing's really been said yet. Just a lot of yadda yadda. Shanahan just got to the podium.

[ShoogarBear]

He's saying he felt that Grossman knew the two-minute offense better.

:lol

[ShoogarBear]

"He gave us the best chance to win."

"Things are sped up . . . I thought it was the best scenario to put him in that situation."

[ShoogarBear]

Holy crap, he's digging himself a hole.

"He [McNabb] understands it."

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

He's saying he felt that Grossman knew the two-minute offense better.

:lol

Pure awesome.

What a stupid, stupid move.

[ShoogarBear]

"Rex was better able to handle the various formations we wanted to put in."

[ShoogarBear]

Fortunately, ole Rex was able to validate the switch, right?

[hitmanyr2k]

Memo to Kyle and Mike Shanahan: Switching quarterbacks at the last minute won't fix that shitty offensive line. That o-line has been crappy all year. It's hard to believe Casey Rabach still has a fuckin job.

[MannyIsGod]

Landry is playing phenomenal football right now.

Shanahan can't say anything that will make any sense. Rex fucking Grossman.

[ShoogarBear]

Somebody asked why the offense hasn't been able to sustain things.

Shanahan said a lot of generic crap; never once said anything about the offensive line.

[MannyIsGod]

Maybe because he's had enough of McNabb blowing ass the past 8 weeks.

Yeah - Rex Grossman did a fine job. McNabb is going to suck if you give him 2 seconds before a defensive tackle is tickling his ear with his tongue yet again.

[hitmanyr2k]

Maybe because he's had enough of McNabb blowing ass the past 8 weeks.

You can throw any QB back there and it won't matter. When the pocket is collapsing 75% of the time your offensive line has major problems that need to be addressed and they haven't really done anything about it. They always put a band-aid on the situation by putting McNabb on the move with bootlegs and shit but teams catch on to that real quick. Rex Grossman's first damn snap he's surrounded by blue shirts within 2 seconds :lol McNabb was probably on the sideline thinking now you see what I've had to deal with.

[ShoogarBear]

Talking heads ripping on Shanahan. One said that it's a problem when your son is the OC.

[MannyIsGod]

I don't see how that is the problem but this call was terrible. Just terrible. I guess we'll find out just over the next two weeks how much the Redskins have changed if much at all.

[MannyIsGod]

Umm, thats complete bullshit.

I've been to 3 Redskins games this season already and McNabb is blowing. He misses wide open receivers down field ALL THE TIME, and takes forever to go through his reads.

The last game I went to (GB) he missed Moss/Armstrong/Cooley on so many plays. Moss got so pissed off he took off his helmet and threw it down on the sidelines and McNabb misses him completely in the middle of the field.

McNabb is sucking this season.

:lmao

Yeah, having to constantly worry about being sacked right off the bat has no bearing on timing or QB effectiveness in general. Also, I'm not sure which McNabb you've watched over the past 10 years but he misses recievers at times. Not unexpected.

He's doing horrible because he's on his back within 5 seconds over half the time.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

You don't change QBs in the final 2 minutes needing a TD to win.

Especially when the #2 is Rexy.

[MannyIsGod]

Exactly.

I think the coaches were really pissed about that interception, but the fact of the matter is the Skins aren't in this game without McNabb's bombs to Armstrong - his 40 yard run in the 2nd and the quick drive he led for the FG before the half.

[MannyIsGod]

Umm thats bullshit again. Maybe this game he had no time. But the 3 games I have been to his hot reads have been WIDE THE FUCK OPEN when he gets blitzed and he never goes to them.

On top of that, he takes way too fucking long to let go off the ball. 90% of the time he had players open within 2-4 seconds and wouldn't let it go.

Yes, he misses receivers, but this time its like x100

The line has sucked all year. Your as bad at this as you are as posting pictures from Dolphins/Steelers games.

[ShoogarBear]

The chick interviewing Brandon Banks is towering over him.

[ShoogarBear]

McNabb at the mike now, taking the high road:

"He makes the decisions . . . we had plenty of opportunities . . . a decision was made and we all went with it as a team . . . you want to be out there, but that's what he wanted and I went along with it."

[ShoogarBear]

You have no idea what your talking about, I'm sorry. You are all the way in fucking San Antonio, not knowing a fucking thing about your "favorite team".

Keep slurping McNabb, you will be hard to find many Redskins fans that want McNabb still in.

Has McNabb been spectacular? No. But with the shittiness of the offensive line and, until the last couple of weeks, the absence of a running game nobody else would have done much better.

If you asked any intelligent Skins fan what the problem is and what needs to be fixed first, not one of them would say the QB.

Oh, and I am in DC.

[ShoogarBear]

McNabb said he wasn't uncomfortable with the terminology used in the 2 min drill.

[MannyIsGod]

You have no idea what your talking about, I'm sorry. You are all the way in fucking San Antonio, not knowing a fucking thing about your "favorite team".

Keep slurping McNabb, you will be hard to find many Redskins fans that want McNabb still in.

They invented this thing called "TV" which allows me to watch every game. Its pretty incredible.

I'm actually in New Mexico anyway.

:lol You think you're going to find a lot of Redskin fans that want Rex Grossman in? loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

[MannyIsGod]

I didnt say its the primary reason. The line blows first and foremost. But to take away blame from McNabb is retarded. McNabb has blown this season. With the amount of times he has wide open players, they should be 5-2. Shahanananananan is doing a good job calling plays on offense.

They should be 5-2?

:lol

[ShoogarBear]

A) As Manny already pointed out, McNabb has always missed receivers on occasion. It's part of the package. He's also with a brand new OC and set of receivers. Timing doesn't happen in one year.
B) You don't think worrying about getting crushed on every single play might have something to do with it? So obviously what the Skins need to do is find one of those QBs who excels with a shitty offense line.

[MannyIsGod]

I would understand if we had a good backup. Or if we had a running game we could lean on. Right now the skins offense lives and dies with McNabb making a play happen a good deal of the time. The run in the 2nd quarter was an example of that.

Putting in Rex Grossman and expecting him to make as many or more plays happen than McNabb is some amazingly stupid thinking and if you find me a Skins fan who believes that then you've found me a stupid fucking fan.

[samikeyp]

Maybe he wasn't familar with the terminology but he's still Donovan McNabb, he has run a two minute drill once or twice. McNabb is still your best chance to win a ball game.

[Marklar MM]

Maybe he wasn't familar with the terminology but he's still Donovan McNabb, he has run a two minute drill once or twice. McNabb is still your best chance to win a ball game.

Any quarterback but Grossman is your best chance.

[samikeyp]

Any quarterback but Grossman is your best chance.

Even over Kitna? :lol

[Blake]

W1PzZ3OgzOU

[Cry Havoc]

Manny, you a 'Skins fan?

[Marklar MM]

Even over Kitna? :lol

I'd take a team of Kitnas over Grossmans.

[ShoogarBear]

Shanahan has gone off his rocker.

Today he claims that he didn't play McNabb because he's had a sore hamstring and so he couldn't handle the two-minute drill from a "cardiovascular standpoint".

He also said that the plan all week has been to play Grossman during the two-minute drills.

Either: a) Shanahan is so arrogant he thinks he can just say any shit that comes to mind and people will have to believe it, or b) the curse of Camp Snyder has gotten to him.

[ShoogarBear]

He also said that the plan all week has been to play Grossman during the two-minute drills.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Throwing DMac under the bus already.

I guess it takes away from going for it on 4th and 10 on your own 20. Down by three with over 3 minutes left in the game. With 2 TOs left.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

And if the plan was to play Rexy in the 2 minute drills, then where was he in the first half?

[ShoogarBear]

And if the plan was to play Rexy in the 2 minute drills, then where was he in the first half?
http://footballontap.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/mikeshanahanredskins.jpg

"These are not the droids you are looking for."

[MannyIsGod]

He just fucking dug his hole deeper today. Should have just said he fucked up but instead pretty much can't admit he fucked up and tosses McNabb further under the bus. Can't wait for this shit to just die down so the Skins can get back to winning.

[leemajors]

http://deadspin.com/5681667/latest-madden-update-agrees-with-shanny-about-mcnabb

[ShoogarBear]

:lol

[SAtown]

LMFAO the refs trying to protect Stafford. What a bullshit late hit call on Ellis

[tlongII]

The Lions look like they're going to beat the Jets.

[Jose Canseco]

LMFAO the refs trying to protect Stafford. What a bullshit late hit call on Ellis

True. Was a bullshit call.

But the Jets got a couple gift penalties too. Two bullshit chop blocks on the Lions O-line.

[SAtown]

Yea officiating was bad on both sides. Lions dominated the Jets today, the offense still sucks. On a day when the Pats lose to the shit browns and the jets have a chance to retake the division, they fail miserably as usual.

I never know what to think of the Jets anymore. I'll just assume they're an overachieving team at 5-3 with a tough schedule ahead. They'll be lucky if they're in the playoffs again

[BUMP]

Not over yet scroh

[SAtown]

Late hit omfg

[SAtown]

Not over yet scroh

:tu

[BUMP]

wtf? Jets should've gone for a TD

[SAtown]

wtf? Jets should've gone for a TD

No balls. Shotty is just like his daddy

[tlongII]

The Lions look like they're going to beat the Jets.

maybe not

[BUMP]

Yeah, with the late hit they had a ton of momentum, should've gone for the kill

[SAtown]

Yea officiating was bad on both sides. Lions dominated the Jets today, the offense still sucks. On a day when the Pats lose to the shit browns and the jets have a chance to retake the division, they fail miserably as usual.

I never know what to think of the Jets anymore. I'll just assume they're an overachieving team at 5-3 with a tough schedule ahead. They'll be lucky if they're in the playoffs again

:lmao

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't know if any team gets more lucky breaks than the Jets..

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Officiating was brutal in this game.

[monosylab1k]

DoK, Lnngrrr (sp :lol), lefty, bostonguy, and I (the only real Pats fans on this board) will all be eating this shit sandwich I fear.

[monosylab1k]

BJGE = beast

Maroney would have gone down early in that run, or fumbled it going into the end zone :lmao san antonio spurs being a maroney knobslobber :lmao

[Pistons < Spurs]

very surprised to see the Lions not only playing really good football, but actually have a 7 point lead at the half.

[JamStone]

Lions played well but I've seen this movie before. All indications are that the Pats will win the game in the second half. It would be great if the Lions somehow hold on though.

[LnGrrrR]

DoK, Lnngrrr (sp :lol), lefty, bostonguy, and I (the only real Pats fans on this board) will all be eating this shit sandwich I fear.

God no! :lol

Losing to the Browns, then winning against the Steelers and Colts, then losing to the Lions?

What are we, the bizarro team? :lol

Nice pick by McCourtey. He needs to do good so they make a kid sized jersey of him, so I can get it for my son. (there's only two good devins I know of in sports, the other being devin Harris)

[LnGrrrR]

Just thinking about Maroney pisses me off.

[LnGrrrR]

Why is Arrington still playing? Why Belichick? If I were playing the Pats, I'd throw to his side every time.

[lefty]

Brady is injured


Why is he playing ????????/

[lefty]

DoK, Lnngrrr (sp :lol), lefty, bostonguy, and I (the only real Pats fans on this board) will all be eating this shit sandwich I fear.
:depressed

[JamStone]

oops... blown coverage... oops... missed tackle... oops... another missed tackled... oops... twisted and missed tackle

hi Lions!

[ShoogarBear]

I've never seen a defensive back so completely embarrass himself multiple times on one play.

[JamStone]

thats about as embarrassing a cornerback can look

[LnGrrrR]

oops... blown coverage... oops... missed tackle... oops... another missed tackled... oops... twisted and missed tackle

hi Lions!

As pathetic as that was Jam... Just replay it with the sound muted and play that old Benny Hill theme in your head... You'll get a small chuckle.

[ShoogarBear]

If there was a God, the Texans would trade for Alphonso Smith.

[LnGrrrR]

It would be nice to get one or two defensive stops.

[ShoogarBear]

Smith somehow has 5 interceptions in the NFL, good for #3 in the NFL.

I presume that's because people keep throwing at him, and eventually there's a bad pass.

[JamStone]

Corners who get interceptions aren't always good corners. Smith has made some big picks this year though. He's not a particularly good cover or tackler. But he'll make some big plays now and then.

Like I said earlier, I've seen this movie before. So not much of a surprise. The game is 60 minutes long.

[LnGrrrR]

Devin is looking to be a good first round draft pick. I really hope so.

[LnGrrrR]

Brady doing his best to keep his name in the MVP discussion... This game should help.