Chris Bosh vs Lamar Odom [Archive] - SpursTalk.com Forums

21_Blessings

11-01-2010, 02:57 PM

I know it's early but:

Odom: 16pts, 13.7trb, 3.3ast on 67% shooting

Bosh : 13pts 6.5trb(:lmao), 1.5ast on 45% shooting

Both are quite obviously roleplayers on their respective teams. Yet one comes off the bench when his starting center is playing and the other is supposed the unstoppable third option while being paid the max. :lol

Hell, Bosh actually makes more than Wade and Robin. Which is some funny ass shit.

Ghazi

11-01-2010, 03:01 PM

lol 3 game samples

monosylab1k

11-01-2010, 03:02 PM

B_X4tdPa1iU

Ashy Larry

11-01-2010, 03:02 PM

dude had one rebound against the Nets ...... I will say he did have a smoove 18 points going 8-10 from the field. Wade and James got the majority of their point from the line. A freakin' 18-24 from the charity stripe.

z0sa

11-01-2010, 03:02 PM

LOL comparing a guy who is supremely confident in his role as sidekick, in fact, gets extremely nervous when he's called on to do anything else, and has plenty of experience with his team doing it to: a guy playing on a completely new team, trying to integrate as a legitimate 3rd and even second option, literally a few games into the season.. try failing less hard next time.

j.dizzle

11-01-2010, 03:04 PM

LOL stackkkkkkkkked. After Bynum takes his sweet ass time & returns im interested in what Phil is gonna do. Fiba was the best thing that has happened to LO, he looks like hes playing with no more pressure now since he has some trophies to back it up now haha.

lefty

11-01-2010, 03:05 PM

Let's see if Odom shows up for at least 41 games

history2b

11-01-2010, 03:05 PM

Lamar is a legit role player. Bosh is not.

The Heat would benefit more if they treated Bosh like the #2 option even if he isn't the 2nd best player on their team.

21_Blessings

11-01-2010, 03:06 PM

Medvedenko

11-01-2010, 03:08 PM

CB4 is still the better offensive player with more moves and a better more reliable jumper. As a glue guy, rebounder and floor general Odom is hands down better. Now if you take the defensive category I also give the nod to Odom, for his rebounding and one on one defense as he can play SF's, PF's and C'.s

As the 1st option I do give the nod to Bosh though.

Ashy Larry

11-01-2010, 03:08 PM

And "The Wire" was the shit ........

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit

z0sa

11-01-2010, 03:12 PM

LOL Jefferson the 40 million dollar man

I can make a Barnes/Dick thread if you want :lol

Let's focus on this thread for now, and how hard you've failed. I give Lamar his props, especially when it comes to rebounding.. dude is a beast on the boards. Yet that's his entire role, hitting the boards, defending, hitting the open shot if he needs to, and finishing what Kobe and Pau start.. Bosh is going to have to make his own shot plenty this season in order for the Heat to stand a chance in the half court every night, a role Lamar always shunned.

21_Blessings

11-01-2010, 03:15 PM

Let's focus on this thread for now, and how hard you've failed.

:lol Coming from you? Thanks for compliment.

Must suck when the Lakers 6th man is a better all around basketball player than the highest paid guy on the vaunted Miami Heat dynasty.

j.dizzle

11-01-2010, 03:16 PM

One more thing, Khloe Kardashian might not be the hottest chick but she probably gives some amazing head cuz Ive never seen LO this happy hahaha. Those Kardashian hoes sure know how to do something right.

z0sa

11-01-2010, 03:17 PM

:lol Coming from you? Thanks for compliment.

Your failures are well documented, bro, but I ain't bringing them up, only how this thread is a failure.

Now, if you'd have been smart about it, and waited at least 25 games into the season while following this trend, you'd have no trouble calling scoreboard.. you still may be able to, though I doubt it.

ALVAREZ6

11-01-2010, 03:20 PM

Another terrible quality thread from a Laker supporter?????

No way!!!!

21_Blessings

11-01-2010, 03:22 PM

Another terrible quality thread from a Laker supporter?????

Ahhh, how cute. Spur fan frothing at the mouth with jealously.

Well at least you guys have Scola.

history2b

11-01-2010, 03:23 PM

Let's focus on this thread for now, and how hard you've failed. I give Lamar his props, especially when it comes to rebounding.. dude is a beast on the boards. Yet that's his entire role, hitting the boards, defending, hitting the open shot if he needs to, and finishing what Kobe and Pau start.. Bosh is going to have to make his own shot plenty this season in order for the Heat to stand a chance in the half court every night, a role Lamar always shunned.

What difference does that make?

Every player needs to understand their role and flourish in that role in order for their team to be successful. If Bosh cannot adapt to being a role player, which is what he's been reduced to thus far by the coach and his teammates, then he'll continue to struggle.

It's along the lines of Bruce Bowen being a better player for the Spurs over Richard Jefferson; How many Spurs fans are stupid enough to say they'd rather have RJ over a younger BB just because he can carry an offense better??

history2b

11-01-2010, 03:24 PM

Your failures are well documented, bro, but I ain't bringing them up, only how this thread is a failure.

Now, if you'd have been smart about it, and waited at least 25 games into the season while following this trend, you'd have no trouble calling scoreboard.. you still may be able to, though I doubt it.

A great documented failure is the belief that the 2009-10 Spurs were contenders.

There are literally scores and scores of those threads to be found here with plenty of homeristic rah rah rahing by you.

That was a miserable failure but hey, you were just being a fan.

monosylab1k

11-01-2010, 03:25 PM

KVWWre8tn_U

z0sa

11-01-2010, 03:26 PM

What difference does that make?

You don't think having to carry a load roughly twice as large as Odom's matters? Well, we can only agree to disagree. Bosh will have to score, will have to rebound, will have to defend for the Heat to have a chance. Bump this bitch in 25 games..

z0sa

11-01-2010, 03:27 PM

A great documented failure is the belief that the 2009-10 Spurs were contenders.

There are literally scores and scores of those threads to be found here with plenty of homeristic rah rah rahing by you.

That was a miserable failure but hey, you were just being a fan.

You consider supporting your team to be a miserable failure, which it never is.. try not being a frontrunning douchebag for a few years, and you will understand the logic of this.

Phillip

11-01-2010, 03:27 PM

Odom is definitely the more talented and gifted player. He is one of the most talented/gifted players the NBA has ever seen. But he truly is a guy that does not have a leaders mentality. Great #3 option and glue guy though. One of my favorite players ever.

j.dizzle

11-01-2010, 03:29 PM

LOL Mono, that Four Loko shit has been in the news a lot lately. They said one can is like drinking a 6 pack with a bunch redbull hahaha ppl been blacking out off that stuff.

Ghazi

11-01-2010, 03:30 PM

history2b

11-01-2010, 03:31 PM

You don't think having to carry a load roughly twice as large as Odom's matters? Well, we can only agree to disagree. Bosh will have to score, will have to rebound, will have to defend for the Heat to have a chance. Bump this bitch in 25 games..

Not on the Heat where he is a role player. If he could fulfill a Lamar Odom like game, boarding with the best of them, aptly defend and score around 15 a game he'd be doing well for them.

Your "roughly twice the load" estimation is garbage.

z0sa

11-01-2010, 03:31 PM

Odom is definitely the more talented and gifted player. He is one of the most talented/gifted players the NBA has ever seen.

lol

history2b

11-01-2010, 03:33 PM

You consider supporting your team to be a miserable failure, which it never is.. try not being a frontrunning douchebag for a few years, and you will understand the logic of this.

There is a difference between following your team and being a delusional homer out of touch with reality.

Moreover, the op could just be rationalized as "supporting his team" and therefore all of your points rendered moot by your own line of thinking.

z0sa

11-01-2010, 03:34 PM

Moreover, the op could just be rationalized as "supporting his team" and therefore all of your points rendered moot by your own line of thinking.

LOL thinking that's not exactly what happened.

21_ is probably the biggest laker homer on this board, and that's saying something with fools like you around.

IronMexican

11-01-2010, 03:38 PM

KVWWre8tn_U

:tu

IronMexican

11-01-2010, 03:40 PM

We were talking about 4 loko before it was on the news.

Jose Canseco

11-01-2010, 03:47 PM

Odom has learned how to really be successful as a role player. Bosh has a ways to go before he's comfortable with his role. Might take some time for Bosh to learn how to excel as a third option role player.

Plus, I think it's easier for a guy like Odom to play off two great players when one of them is also a big man. Pau and to an extent Bynum draw a lot of attention by opposing frontcourts. While Wade and LeBron are great players, Bosh will still command more attention in the frontcourt because he's playing next to Joel Anthony and Udonis Haslem. Bosh will generally be defended by the better defensive big man and it's easier to double him off of either Anthony or Haslem. I think that makes a difference. Replace either Wade or LeBron with an elite big man, like Gasol or Dwight Howard, and Bosh would have a lot more room to work with in the paint area, as opposed to being an afterthought on offense and relegated to a spot-up midrange jump shooter off of Wade or LeBron drives and kickouts.

8FOR!3

11-01-2010, 03:52 PM

This thread is garbage, but I'd rather have Odom on my team. Not saying he's a better player, I'm just saying he's the kind of guy I want on my team. I like his style.

ambchang

11-01-2010, 03:58 PM

Odom is obviously better than Bosh in a sidekick role. Odom passes better, defends better and just does about anything better than Bosh as a sidekick.

Odom and Gasol are the only reason Kobe has a chance to win a ring without being the 2nd banana.

Yes, Odom is that good.

Phillip

11-01-2010, 04:12 PM

lol

great post bro :tu

024

11-01-2010, 04:14 PM

odom didn't even live up to his potential until gasol came over with his passing and all around play. gasol has definitely made odom a better player.

LkrFan

11-01-2010, 05:02 PM

LO came into Lakers' training camp in great physical condition. He's started before so he is comfortable playing with our 1st unit. He knows the triangle inside and out and he is extremely versatile for someone his size.

RuPaul is overrated. He gets more FGAs and has a better jumper than LO. Other than that, LO is the better player. Here are things LO does better than RuPaul:

1. Rebounder. LO is an absolute beast on the boards.
2. Facilitator/Passer. LO is a really good passer as a 6'10" dude.
3. Defender. LO >>> RuPaul at defense.
4. Versatile. LO played both guard positions and both forward positions in the triangle.

Just wait until he brings ^these attributes to our 2nd unit. I could see him sky for a rebound, initiate a fast break, and dish to either of the Killer B's for a 3 or for a throwdown (it is going to be really scary for every team in the league when Big Drew returns). RuPaul can do none of the above sans being an opportunistic rebounder.

Remember, LO used to play for the Hype. DWhistle loves him and so does Riles. I guarantee you that if they had the chance to choose between acquiring LO or RuPaul it would NOT be an easy decision for the Hype. They might still choose RuPaul, but I wouldn't doubt that they would have rather acquire LO to put with DWhistle and LeHype - because they know he can still be effective without the ball in his hands while letting them shine. LO is very unselfish in that regard.

LO even one upped LeHype: lead his Olympic team to a gold medal without Kobe. :lol

:toast

Killakobe81

11-01-2010, 06:03 PM

The WIRE!!!!!!

Killakobe81

11-01-2010, 06:08 PM

lol

You LOL ..but he has a point. you do realize that Lamar was the number one player coming out of HS in the nation? Lamar has amazing talents but also some huge weakness as well. he sucks at FT's never fully developed his right hand or a consistent season to season jumper. bosh has done most of that.

But what Lamar is he is a 6 ft 10 player that can pass, dribble and drive better than some guards. he can defend multiple positions. he is extremely talented, that is why it's so frustrating he has never even been an all-star. He has superstar talent but great 6th man or 3rd option production ...

21_Blessings

11-01-2010, 06:14 PM

Haha, look how asshurt zosa is. You can tell he use to be a Mahini dicksucker.

daspurs

11-01-2010, 06:52 PM

Why do you laker fans feel the need to always compare something with the heat or talk about them ? Are you guys bothered or something ?

#41 Shoot Em Up

11-01-2010, 07:22 PM

Couple of quick points about this garbage of a thread...........
Ghazi is cum guzzler, 21 blessings fails again at a pathetic troll attempt

HarlemHeat37

11-01-2010, 07:38 PM

LOL..

In the other thread, Blessings talks about how everybody talks about the Lakers "out of fear"..so far, he's made more Heat-related threads and comments than anybody on this forum:lol..

z0sa

11-01-2010, 09:24 PM

You LOL ..but he has a point. you do realize that Lamar was the number one player coming out of HS in the nation? Lamar has amazing talents but also some huge weakness as well. he sucks at FT's never fully developed his left hand or a consistent season to season jumper. bosh has done most of that.

But what Lamar is he is a 6 ft 10 player that can pass, dribble and drive better than some guards. he can defend multiple positios. he is extremely talented, that is why it's so frustrating he has never even been an all-star. He has superstar talent but great 6th man or 3rd option production ...

I lol because he's Phillip, not to slight Odom.

Odom is the quintessential 4th option, even 3rd option because of his ball handling and passing, though I'd take Bosh over him 10/10 times at this point still. Odom is a 6th man going against opposing benches and rebounding with an incredible frontcourt. Bosh IS the Heat frontcourt, at least concerning true big men, without the option of going to the bench explored yet.

We'll see. Odom has certainly done spectacular to open this season.

Killakobe81

11-01-2010, 11:21 PM

I lol because he's Phillip, not to slight Odom.

Odom is the quintessential 4th option, even 3rd option because of his ball handling and passing, though I'd take Bosh over him 10/10 times at this point still. Odom is a 6th man going against opposing benches and rebounding with an incredible frontcourt. Bosh IS the Heat frontcourt, at least concerning true big men, without the option of going to the bench explored yet.

We'll see. Odom has certainly done spectacular to open this season.

I agree with you Bosh IS better ...
I'm just arguing that Lamar is more natural talent and athlete ...which is both an endorsement and an indictment of Lamar who has done less than bosh with more ...